Kidlitchat Transcript – September 15 (part 3)
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9:00 pm bonnieadamson: @dlschubert I use way more exclamation points in tweets than I do normally, too. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm ChristineTB: @michellewitte Some get no marketing budget at all. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm srjohannes: @DDHearn where is that – id like to read it! #kidlitchat
9:01 pm EgmontGal: @michellewitte At Egmont, we spend $25,000 for each book we publish on publicity alone. No, wait, I dreamt that. Sorry #kidlitchat
9:01 pm DDHearn: @onbeyondwords Yes, and if you have a book that is orphaned, like I did, you are not in a good place. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm LauraHamor: I would think that an author, especially a newer author would want to self promote. a celebration of the work, not a chore! #kidlitchat
9:01 pm mgbuehrlen: RT @EgmontGal: if we publish a book, we bloody well are going to work on getting the word out! << That’s why I love Egmont USA! #kidlitchat
9:01 pm ChristineTB: @DDHearn I’ve een told the same thing – some books used to fill list. They are on the sink or swim principal. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm EgmontGal: @PattyJMurphy @myramcEntire the problem with being snarky on line is someone may only remember that about you #kidlitchat
9:01 pm AuthorTaraKelly: @KateMessner Fine, but can *I* shout about your book? 
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9:01 pm amberlough: @EgmontGal Ha. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm debbieohi: Another bonus of Twitter/blogs: I enjoy getting a glimpse at the person behind the book jacket. More motivation for buying bks. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm dlschubert: @bonnieadamson Yup, that works, too!!!!!! #kidlitchat 
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9:02 pm michellewitte: @DDHearn I wouldn’t say that, but there are priorities in marketing departments. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm MyraMcEntire: @PattyJMurphy I worry – esp. when it comes to industry peeps – that snark will override professionalism. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm jessicaleeander: @KateMessner well said! #kidlitchat
9:02 pm ChristineTB: RT @EgmontGal:At Egmont, we spend $25,000 for each book we publish on publicity alone. No, wait, I dreamt that. Sorry (sigh) #kidlitchat
9:02 pm rillajaggia: @DDHearn Youch!There’s room for filler books out there? #kidlitchat
9:02 pm PattyJMurphy: @srjohannes: Thank you. I will check it out. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm LaFabuliste: Irks me to read letters in which authors promise to be all-aboard on marketing. Too presumptuous? Maybe. Just write a good book! #kidlitchat
9:02 pm mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire LOL! Nah, he doesn’t even deserve that. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm michellewitte: @EgmontGal That would be nice. I’d love to have that kind of $$ to publicize all our books. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm MyraMcEntire: @EgmontGal @PattyJMurphy Yes, exactly. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm joycelansky: @edithcohn I bet Bill’s itching to get back in the news. Just find a blue dress. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm cybils: RT @RascofromRIF Help spread the word about the Cybils, start thinking about favorite books to nominate! http://cybils.com #kidlitchat
9:02 pm Shelltex: @srjohannes Shelli your blog is amazing. I think people will appreciate being told about it. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm EgmontGal: @ChristineTB @ddhearn “sink or swim” principal pretty much doesn’t work. we need to know why a book will sell before we acquire #kidlitchat
9:02 pm amyknichols: @rillajaggia I know. I found that troubling, too. 
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9:02 pm dlschubert: @LauraHamor Totally agree. What could be better than promoting your own published work? #kidlitchat
9:03 pm SaraLewisHolmes: RT @KateMessner:To me, the best self-promotion isnt shouting about your book; its just being a helpful human being online. BINGO #kidlitchat
9:03 pm mgbuehrlen: RT @EgmontGal: honey, we all think its about us! But finding ourselves fascinating may actually work for childrens writers< Ha! #kidlitchat
9:03 pm DDHearn: @KateMessner That’s a great thought. Part of the reason I don’t blog is that I really don’t know what I would offer that’s new. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm EgmontGal: @michellewitte ME TOO! So everything you guys do really helps, of course. But the book is still the thing. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm ChristineTB: I could do a lot with $2,500 lol! (or $250) #kidlitchat
9:03 pm amberlough: @LauraHamor Yes. I guess I meant that if a book is good enough, it won’t need as much pub. (Or so I dream.) #kidlitchat
9:03 pm KateMessner: @AuthorTaraKelly You, my dear, may shout all you want. <3 #kidlitchat
9:03 pm bwileyjax: #kidlitchat This is great, a chat like this lets me follow and listen to other like minded people. The info shared here is very helpful too
9:03 pm srjohannes: every writer on here is already marketing. twitter facebook & blogging. you guys are all mrkt w/o even knowing it – good job! 
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9:03 pm jeanie_w: RT @EgmontGal: @PattyJMurphy @myramcEntire the problem with being snarky on line is someone may only remember that about you #kidlitchat
9:03 pm CherylRainfield: RT @debbieohi: bonus of Twitter/blogs: I enjoy getting a glimpse at peep behind the book jacket. More motivation for buying bks. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm elisanader: @Ninaberry ustream is what teens are using for access. like blog.tv. it’s realtime, answering q’s live. & w/mobilecasts soon #kidlitchat
9:03 pm EgmontGal: @SaraLewisHolmes If people shout about their book constantly online, who will keep reading their tweets or blog, right? #kidlitchat
9:03 pm sarahshum: @DDHearn yikes. hope no editor ever thinks any book she slaves over is “filler.” But sad reality is they can’t all be leads. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm DDHearn: @srjohannes I posted it today on a tweet. I’ll try to remember to post it again. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm jlpowers: @LauraHamor some of us are too introverted for our own good #kidlitchat
9:03 pm lisa_schroeder: @KateMessner Wow, you’re right! Great way of looking at it! #kidlitchat
9:04 pm dlschubert: @DDHearn Trust yourself, you’re a writer! You can definitely create posts people would want to read. #kidlitchat
9:04 pm CherylRainfield: @debbieohi Agree! And when I find a favorite author online, it’s enjoyable. Except when they’re homophobic or something #kidlitchat
9:04 pm ChristineTB: @EgmontGal I think Egmont is setting a new standard. I’ve been surprised when editors talk fillers at conferences = no $ #kidlitchat
9:04 pm michellewitte: Authors: if you had the best publicist in the world and unlimited marketing funds, would you still promote your book? #kidlitchat
9:04 pm LauraHamor: @jlpowers being introverted is okay, but I think you need to be a voice for your book, like the lorax. #kidlitchat
9:04 pm EgmontGal: @jlpowers @LauraHamor there have been a lot of introverted great writers! don’t fear. We will still publish you if your good #kidlitchat
9:04 pm srjohannes: @Shelltex thx just didnt want 2 come acrss as cheesy promoter cant answer all ? fast enough with my “claw” typing method. #kidlitchat
9:04 pm jlpowers: Okay, it was fun guys but gotta go cook supper. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm SaraLewisHolmes: @Shelltex Agreed. Shelli’s blog is great. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm gregpincus: There are many different types of “promotion” – sometimes you DO shout about your work. But too often? No. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm ChristineTB: How about this – Lee and Low expressed surprise at ALA that I was marketing. Said a lot of authors don’t. That surprised me. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm supersiblings: RT @CherylRainfield @debbieohi: bonus of Twitter/blogs: enjoy getting a glimpse at peep behind the bk jacket. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm DDHearn: Here’s the depressing article. Some hard truths about the publishing business. http://j.mp/1aMa5g #kidlitchat
9:05 pm amberlough: @michellewitte Who wouldn’t? #kidlitchat
9:05 pm bonnieadamson: @DDHearn I agree, Diane–you shouldn’t think you don’t have anything to add. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm Shelltex: @LaFabuliste Funny. There are resources telling authors to state upfront their willingness to market. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm onbeyondwords: Got some great new info, blog sites and insights tonight on #kidlitchat. Thanks everyone.
9:05 pm EgmontGal: @ChristineTB Editors have publicly spoken about list fillers?What list fillers?They are like Bigfoot,rumored but i’ve never seen #kidlitchat
9:06 pm michellewitte: @amberlough Some people prefer to leave the fate of their book up to others. I’ve seen plenty. #kidlitchat
9:06 pm debbieohi: @CherylRainfield Good point. If the author turns out to have a really negative online persona, that turns me off their books. #kidlitchat
9:06 pm CherylRainfield: RT @SaraLewisHolmes @KateMessner:To me the best self-promotion isnt shouting abt yr book; its being a helpful human being online #kidlitchat
9:06 pm sarahshum: @rillajaggia Every book I buy is for a reason, and it’s not to pad a list. It’s because it’s for a particular reader/audience #kidlitchat
9:06 pm srjohannes: @EgmontGal yeah sometimes i get peeps who follow me & their last 50 posts have been about their biz or book. annoying! #kidlitchat
9:06 pm LauraHamor: @egmontGal, I am counting on it! #kidlitchat
9:06 pm FBTR: RT @KateMessner: To me, the best self-promotion isn’t shouting about your book; it’s just being a helpful human being online. #kidlitchat
9:06 pm KrisYankee: RT @EgmontGal:there have been a lot of introverted great writers! dont fear. We will still publish u if u r good (nice to know!) #kidlitchat
9:06 pm DDHearn: @dlschubert I really have trouble self promoting. It feels like bragging to me. I only tell a few people. Stupid, I know. #kidlitchat
9:06 pm joycelansky: @CherylRainfield There’s way but don’t know how. Quit following because of kidlitchat probably should have never followed me. #kidlitchat
9:06 pm rillajaggia: Great chatting, everyone. Got to pay a visit to my mom. She kindly agreed to wait till after this chat! #kidlitchat
9:06 pm mgbuehrlen: @edithcohn Someone should do that with Twilight. They’d make a fortune! #kidlitchat
9:06 pm debbieohi: RT @KateMessner: To me, the best self-promotion isnt shouting about your book; its just being a helpful human being online. #kidlitchat
9:06 pm Shelltex: @srjohannes Don’t think you have any worries. Glad we share the same name. #kidlitchat
9:07 pm michellewitte: @debbieohi There was one recent high-profile author tirade that turned me off to that author’s books, even though I <3 them. #kidlitchat
9:07 pm elisanader: @Ninaberry UStream is just another tool to use to connect. it will evolve like twitter & facebook. there are others! #kidlitchat
9:07 pm ChristineTB: @EgmontGal Yep. It is pretty shocking. Heard it more than once. I don’t see the sense in doing it. Seems like wasted investment #kidlitchat
9:07 pm rillajaggia: @sarahshum Great to know that. Thanks. The talk of ‘fillers’ was disconerting. #kidlitchat
9:07 pm srjohannes: man i should not have cheated in my high school typing class! shame on me! serves me right. #kidlitchat
9:07 pm DDHearn: @dlschubert The truth is I’m mainly an illustrator who doesn’t even know how to post a picture on the internet without hubby. #kidlitchat
9:07 pm ktubb: RT @michellewitte:if u had the best…would u still promote ur book? U would have to show up at signings,visits,events, so yes! #kidlitchat
9:07 pm coolkidsread: @KateMessner I don’t use swear words on my blog, cuz i hope kids read the reviews 2. Plus, it’s unprofessional IMHO #kidlitchat
9:07 pm CherylRainfield: @joycelansky That’s a good way to think about it #kidlitchat
9:07 pm MyraMcEntire: What if we’re extroverted as opposed to introverted? Are we in trouble? (and that’s not meant to be a snarky question!!) #kidlitchat
9:08 pm amberlough: Power just went out for a minute. That was weird. Is it a sign of the apocalypse? #kidlitchat
9:08 pm EgmontGal: I tried to retweet @sarahshum! I agree with her 100%. scroll down to see her astute comment, all books pubbed for reason #kidlitchat
9:08 pm MyraMcEntire: If you love your characters and love your readers how could you NOT promote? It’s like a pep rally, for writer and readers. #kidlitchat
9:08 pm debbieohi: @michellewitte That’s a good reason for socially inept authors to stay OFF social networks, isn’t it? :- #kidlitchat
9:08 pm EgmontGal: What the heck is a listfiller? I don’t even see the point of them, you won’t make money, would break a writer’s heart #kidlitchat
9:08 pm DDHearn: @bonnieadamson Thanks. If I had more computer smarts I maybe could. It’s all very confusing to me. #kidlitchat
9:08 pm dlschubert: @DDHearn As Dr. Phil would say, “How’s that working for you?” Feel free to give that up. You might discover a new world.;-) #kidlitchat
9:09 pm amyknichols: @amberlough Not the apocalypse. Just #kidlitchat overloading the grid. #kidlitchat
9:09 pm lauramanivong: I’m pretty extroverted. I HOPE it’s not a problem. #kidlitchat
9:09 pm SaraLewisHolmes: Heading out. Night, all! #kidlitchat
9:09 pm CherylRainfield: @debbieohi Yes! And then when author is genuine or helpful, it makes me want to go find their books #kidlitchat
9:09 pm bonnieadamson: @EgmontGal We all dread the label “midlist” even when not pubbed yet! #kidlitchat
9:09 pm ChristineTB: Or a poltergeist. #kidlitchat
9:09 pm michellewitte: Agree with @EgmontGal @sarahshum Someone had to believe in the book in the first place for it to be acquired. #kidlitchat
9:09 pm mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire Nah, but for you, we’ll make an exception. j/k! I think being extroverted is a plus. I wish I was. #kidlitchat
9:09 pm EgmontGal: @debbieohi maybe writers who incessantly toot their own horns are like kids in jr high who only talked about themselves #kidlitchat
9:09 pm EgmontUSA: Every Egmont author gets to talk to our head of marketing, and part of the convo is how to self-promote comfortably for you. #kidlitchat
9:09 pm debbieohi: @SaraLewisHolmes Gnite, Sara! #kidlitchat
9:09 pm DDHearn: @srjohannes That’s what I can’t stand. Constant self promoting with no interaction at all. It turns me off. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm amberlough: Please don’t think I’m anti-promotion. I’m just feeling lazy this evening. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm kimberlyjsmith: Seems like there are many authors on MySpace, and readers there to follow. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm EgmontGal: @CherylRainfield that’s so true. We always root for a nice person, don’t we? #kidlitchat
9:10 pm MyraMcEntire: @lauramanivong Me too. Actually, I’m a very extroverted introvert. Not a problem at all. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm sarahshum: @EgmontGal I am so puzzled by this list-filler idea! Who the heck thinks and says that? #kidlitchat
9:10 pm amyknichols: @bonnieadamson I can’t wait to just be *on* the list! #kidlitchat
9:10 pm dlschubert: AGREE! RT @MyraMcEntire If u love ur characters & ur readers how could u NOT promote? It’s like a pep rally 4 writer & readers. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm Idaho_Laurie: @EgmontGal @sarashum good to know because lately it seems bookstore shelves are losing their “diversity.” #kidlitchat
9:10 pm michellewitte: @debbieohi Socially inept, not necessarily. More rude with anger management issues. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm KrisYankee: Need to skeedaddle. Will there be a transcript posted? #kidlitchat
9:10 pm ChristineTB: @EgmontGal You are speaking to the choir. And the Pubs that said it are not minor players in the biz. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm debbieohi: @CherylRainfield Yes! Reading certain writers’ tweets have prompted me to go out and buy their books. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm srjohannes: @EgmontUSA Oh I would love to interview that person on how they come up with that for each author! #kidlitchat
9:10 pm bonnieadamson: @DDHearn I’m working on a Wordpress website that will include blog space, so hope I’m up to it! #kidlitchat
9:10 pm EgmontGal: @sarahshum I am puzzled by writers saying at conferences that some books are fillers? Doug Whiteman might have fired ‘em! #kidlitchat
9:10 pm MyraMcEntire: @mgbuehrlen You’re very well spoken, all the time! #kidlitchat
9:11 pm EgmontUSA: @bonnieadamson But the midlist books that sell and sell and sell are loved by publishers. They make money. #kidlitchat
9:11 pm lauramanivong: I get weary of the overpromoters. You’d think as authors, some could be a little more sublte with the written word. #kidlitchat
9:11 pm amberlough: @ChristineTB OMG my house is haunted! My 3 yo told me there was a girl named Louisa running amok; thought was invisible friend. #kidlitchat
9:11 pm DDHearn: @michellewitte But a lot of great artists in all fields have been nasty, egocentric human beings. Does that diminish their art? #kidlitchat
9:11 pm andybrokaw: @bonnieadamson Dread mid-list? It’s what I’m aspiring to! And feel naive for dreaming that big! #kidlitchat
9:11 pm EgmontGal: @ChristineTB hey, i’m not a minor player in the biz either! List fillers are imports bought to put revenue on list, not die #kidlitchat
9:11 pm CherylRainfield: @debbieohi Me, too! Authors’ tweets, blog posts, newsletters, emails–if I connect, I want to find their books #kidlitchat
9:11 pm debbieohi: @michellewitte Another reason never EVER to post in anger. I’ve made that mistake in the past and regretted it, smarter now. #kidlitchat
9:11 pm EgmontGal: @andybrokaw Andy, that is charming. Work on your book and your writing, that’s the trick #kidlitchat
9:12 pm bonnieadamson: @amyknichols @andybrokaw You’re both right–who am I kidding? It just seems such a sad fate. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm srjohannes: greg pincus usually posts a great transcript. I am happy 2 summarzie all the links articles and references mentioned 2day #kidlitchat
9:12 pm Shelltex: @EgmontUSA Awesome way to handle marketing issues with the authors. I’m sure they are grateful for that phone call. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm ChristineTB: @EgmontGal Not writers – the editors are the source of the info. Like I said, it was pretty shocking. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm michellewitte: @DDHearn For some reason, I hold artists/writers to a higher level of conduct. Maybe it’s a character fault of mine. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire Maybe that’s a plus about being an introvert. Lots of time to myself to think of what to say. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm DDHearn: @MyraMcEntire I think our country is made for extroverts. As the Olympic announcers used to say. “They like ‘em perky”. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm amberlough: @andybrokaw Me too! I’d love a long mid-list career. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm srjohannes: @lauramanivong i agree! #kidlitchat
9:12 pm PattyJMurphy: @MyraMcEntire: Love that: “It’s like a pep rally, for writer and readers!” You are so right about being your book’s promoter!” #kidlitchat
9:12 pm bonnieadamson: @EgmontUSA Thank you for a more positive spin! #kidlitchat
9:12 pm ChristineTB: @amberlough My house is haunted too. He died in 1933. And now my car automatically goes to country music. What’s up with that? #kidlitchat
9:13 pm EgmontGal: @sarahshum in fact, now that I think about it, the last thing ANYONE in biz wants now is a list filler! whatever your def of it #kidlitchat
9:13 pm CherylRainfield: LOL RT @mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire Maybe thats a plus about being an introvert. Lots of time to myself to think of what to say. #kidlitchat
9:13 pm joycelansky: @Shelltex Wearing costume would be less stressful. You could hide behind a mask. #kidlitchat
9:13 pm TaraLazar: @DDHearn Wow. I have a hard time believing this. Why wouldn’t you want every book on your list to be the best it could be? #kidlitchat
9:13 pm LauraHamor: @andybrokaw I agree, my mondo beyondo dream is to be on any book list, mid is great. #kidlitchat
9:13 pm michellewitte: @EgmontGal Good point. We wouldn’t publish a book if we didn’t think it was important/wouldn’t make money. #kidlitchat
9:13 pm EgmontGal: @ChristineTB Hand on heart, everyone is told to publisher fewer books that do better. No one wants “list fillers” #kidlitchat
9:13 pm KrisYankee: Hoping to just sell! RT@andybrokaw:@bonnieadamson Dread mid-list? Its what Im aspiring to!And feel naive for dreaming that big! #kidlitchat
9:13 pm ChristineTB: RT @bonnieadamson: @EgmontUSA Thank you for a more positive spin! — Agreed. It is hopeful! #kidlitchat
9:13 pm realmlovejoy: RT @KateMessner To me, the best self-promotion isn’t shouting about your book; it’s just being a helpful human being online. #kidlitchat
9:13 pm DDHearn: @MyraMcEntire I never went to pep rallies in high school. Man, I gotta screw my head on differently. #kidlitchat
9:14 pm MyraMcEntire: @DDHearn One of my friends claims some of us should come with a warning label and a tranq gun. I have no idea what she means. #kidlitchat
9:14 pm amberlough: @ChristineTB Isn’t country music diff now than in 1933? My house has hidden attic access. SO COOL. But freaky. #kidlitchat
9:14 pm debbieohi: @CherylRainfield Sometimes just the way they tweet. @byseanferrell, for instance (funny tweets). SO buying his book next year. #kidlitchat
9:14 pm EgmontGal: @ChristineTB @bonnieadamson I am telling the truth. No one buys a book just to fill a list. That makes no fiscal sense #kidlitchat
9:14 pm MyraMcEntire: @mgbuehrlen You’re doing a good job! #kidlitchat
9:14 pm HeleneBoudreau: author visits to schools and libraries have been a fun way to promote for me, even though I’m shy #kidlitchat
9:14 pm KateMessner: Not all books will sell 500,000 copies, but that doesn’t make them “filler.” They’re important – to a smaller # of readers. #kidlitchat
9:14 pm dlschubert: @DDHearn And I was a cheerleader!! There you have it.;-) #kidlitchat
9:14 pm TaraLazar: @DDHearn Or every book on your list to be a potential best seller? I know they all can’t be, but isn’t that the goal? #kidlitchat
9:14 pm CherylRainfield: @DDHearn Nasty personality doesn’t diminish art…but for me can give me bad taste/feeling about it #kidlitchat
9:14 pm amberlough: @EgmontGal So those of us aspiring for mid-list are aiming too low? #kidlitchat
9:14 pm LaFabuliste: Wrong to want people to just concern themselves with writing a good book? Isn’t that enough? Isn’t that HARD enough? #kidlitchat
9:15 pm mgbuehrlen: RT @KateMessner To me, the best self-promotion isnt shouting about your book; its just being a helpful human being online.<True! #kidlitchat
9:15 pm sarahshum: @EgmontGal Exactly. Publisher’s can’t spend money on things they don’t think will sell/make $, or raise profile in good ways #kidlitchat
9:15 pm HeleneBoudreau: I find it easier to connect with kids rather than adults…maybe I’m not shy, just childish #kidlitchat
9:15 pm MyraMcEntire: @DDHearn I think so many of us need cheerleading/encouragement. I know I do. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm DDHearn: @EgmontUSA That’s a great policy. None of my publishers ever talked about marketing with me, and I was too stupid to ask. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm CherylRainfield: @debbieohi Yes! Tweets/blogs etc can turn you on–or off–a book/author. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm TaraLazar: I don’t want to be filler! Main course, baby! LOL! #kidlitchat
9:15 pm EgmontGal: @amberlough No, I never said that! What are you talking about? What’s wrong with the mid list? Everyone is scaring me tonight #kidlitchat
9:15 pm michellewitte: @LaFabuliste Each thing has its own place and time. Write well, but then think of how to sell your work to others. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm dlschubert: I’m all about the funny. If you can make me laugh and pull me into a funny twitersation, I’m all over it. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm MyraMcEntire: @DDHearn But instead of pompons we should just throw chocolate. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm AudryT: It’s not realistic to want or assume every book will be a bestseller. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm gregpincus: I will have the transcripts up tonight or tomorrow morning at http://bit.ly/10ndtk #kidlitchat
9:16 pm mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire Well, I happen to enjoy everything you post. No wonder your agent nabbed you! #kidlitchat
9:16 pm LaFabuliste: A focus on “selling” takes away from the art for me. And I like the art. I like the process. #kidlitchat
9:16 pm srjohannes: shoot – Ill say it! Ill be a filler! pick me pick me! #kidlitchat
9:16 pm CherylRainfield: @HeleneBoudreau Really? How do you prepare for author/school visits? Got any good links on it? #kidlitchat
9:16 pm LauraHamor: @LaFabuliste I agree, the writing is hard enough to have to worry about lists of promotion before it is finished being written! #kidlitchat
9:16 pm DDHearn: @EgmontUSA By the way, does Regina Griffin work there? If so, give her my regards. We worked together at Holiday House. #kidlitchat
9:16 pm bonnieadamson: @EgmontGal But we all know you guys are the exception to the rulel #kidlitchat
9:16 pm MyraMcEntire: @gregpincus Thank you so much for all the work you do! #kidlitchat
9:16 pm sarahshum: @MyraMcEntire Editors and agents should be cheerleaders, too! #kidlitchat
9:16 pm amberlough: @EgmontGal Me too! I guess I’m confused about “fillers” and “mid-lists.” #kidlitchat
9:16 pm srjohannes: @gregpincus thanks greg! #kidlitchat
9:16 pm kimberlyjsmith: @KateMessner So agree with that. #kidlitchat
9:16 pm EgmontGal: My novacaine is wearing off. To sum up: we only publish books we like and think we can sell well. Shy writers are nice, too #kidlitchat
9:16 pm ChristineTB: @EgmontGal Let’s chalk it up to conference hyperbole and go with the current theory that all authors get attention. More hopeful #kidlitchat
9:16 pm MyraMcEntire: @mgbuehrlen Not everyone can put Edward on a Stick. And thank you! #kidlitchat
9:16 pm auntieflamingo: Night all. #kidlitchat
9:16 pm Shelltex: @ChristineTB That is so funny. You should make your ghost a character in a book. #kidlitchat
9:16 pm KateMessner: @HeleneBoudreau Me too. Talking with kids about books is the absolute best, isn’t it? #kidlitchat
9:16 pm debbieohi: @MyraMcEntire @DDHearn re:cheerleading. That’s one reason I love Twitter! Writing conferences are too expensive for some of us. #kidlitchat
9:17 pm TaraLazar: @srjohannes You could never be filler. #kidlitchat
9:17 pm AudryT: Plenty of editors and publishers publish a book for love, doubting that it will even break even. #kidlitchat
9:17 pm lauramanivong: I just want to sell out my first print run inside of a year. I’d be super fine with that! #kidlitchat
9:17 pm EgmontGal: @amberlough Filler = no such thing Mid list = nice respectable sale for author and house, not a bestseller, I guess. #kidlitchat
9:17 pm KrisYankee: Thanks, Greg!RT @gregpincus: I will have the transcripts up tonight or tomorrow morning at http://bit.ly/10ndtk #kidlitchat
9:17 pm michellewitte: @sarahshum Oh, I think editors and agents cheer their books on. I know I do. All that hard work in creating a book. #kidlitchat
9:17 pm DDHearn: @bonnieadamson Tell me how it goes. I need to update my website and hope to add a blog if I can think of anything to say. #kidlitchat
9:17 pm CherylRainfield: Agreed RT @MyraMcEntire: @DDHearn I think so many of us need cheerleading/encouragement. I know I do. #kidlitchat
9:17 pm srjohannes: i think any book published – someone loved and stood behind. Except for the “whale” book (right Elizabeth! #kidlitchat
9:17 pm debbieohi: @gregpincus Thank you so much, Greg! (re: transcripts http://bit.ly/10ndtk) #kidlitchat
9:17 pm amberlough: Is is lame that I look forward to this all week? You are my social life at the moment. #kidlitchat
9:17 pm EgmontGal: @sarahshum But again, some great editors are shy, no? And yet they do excellent books that get found and succeed, as they should #kidlitchat
9:17 pm MyraMcEntire: @sarahshum I appreciate the industry professionals who spend time at kid lit chat. I hate to miss it, so much encouragement! #kidlitchat
9:18 pm amberlough: @EgmontGal Phew. Ok. Thanks for clarification. #kidlitchat
9:18 pm EgmontUSA: Writers, please – the best thing you can do is write the best book you can and keep working on your writing. #kidlitchat
9:18 pm mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire Speaking of blog tours, you should go on one for New Moon. T’would be hilarious. #kidlitchat
9:18 pm amberlough: RT @EgmontUSA: Writers, please – the best thing you can do is write the best book you can and keep working on your writing. #kidlitchat
9:18 pm dlschubert: @DDHearn I’d be happy to help you w/pics. E-mail me anytime. #kidlitchat
9:18 pm debbieohi: RT @EgmontUSA: Writers, please – the best thing you can do is write the best book you can and keep working on your writing. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm EgmontUSA: @DDHearn I will definitely tell Regina that you said hi. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm dlschubert: RT @EgmontUSA Writers, please – the best thing you can do is write the best book you can and keep working on your writing. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm mgbuehrlen: RT @MyraMcEntire: @sarahshum I appreciate the industry professionals who spend time at kid lit chat. << Me too! #kidlitchat
9:19 pm AudryT: Write a better book than you think you can. Set the bar a little higher than you can reach — and reach it. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm TaraLazar: I don’t like the word “filler.” Makes me think of burping. I’m full on filler. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm CherylRainfield: @debbieohi I’m with you! The net has opened up things so much for me. Sometimes better than conferences #kidlitchat
9:19 pm srjohannes: i cant imagine editors doing “fillers”. They have to spend so much time and energy and love editing thm – they have 2 love them. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm DDHearn: @michellewitte I feel very much as you do. But historically a lot of talented people have not always been nice people. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm stephanieruble: in at 9:30 just caught up. Am reading on Twitter main page. Got to be a better way to participate. Am enjoying reading though. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm joycelansky: @amberlough I look forward to kidlitchat too. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm MyraMcEntire: @mgbuehrlen We’re considering taking Eddie on a Stick to theater! Did I tell you one of my friends runs the Twilight Lexicon? #kidlitchat
9:19 pm KatGirl_Studio: what’s a blog tour? I keep hearing about them but I don’t know what they are. #kidlitchat
9:20 pm EgmontGal: Had to write a tough letter to an author about probs in ms. recently.Put in tons of nice stuff because we ALL need encouragement #kidlitchat
9:20 pm CherylRainfield: RT @EgmontUSA: Writers, please – the best thing you can do is write the best book you can and keep working on your writing. #kidlitchat
9:20 pm srjohannes: @TaraLazar i think of botox or collogen am i the only one? #kidlitchat
9:20 pm amberlough: Speaking of writing; wrote my best 3 pages ever today. Sometimes, all it takes is 3 pages to make you feel on top of the world. #kidlitchat
9:20 pm debbieohi: Social networking can be great for writers, but there’s also a danger of it being a time suck for writers. #kidlitchat
9:20 pm bonnieadamson: @Egmontal I appreciate the distinction–have heard the perjorative: booksellers won’t promote if “only midlist.” #kidlitchat
9:20 pm DDHearn: @TaraLazar Oh, I’m sure the authors have done their best. That article I posted awhile back was what I was referring to. #kidlitchat
9:20 pm EgmontGal: @MyraMcEntire you know the person who runs Twilight Lexicon? Now that is fun @egmontusa is so sick of me talking about twilight #kidlitchat
9:20 pm TaraLazar: @srjohannes And that’s what I hear at conferences. Editors/agents have to fall in love with a story, to have passion for it. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire No! Really? No wonder you have the inside scoop. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm MyraMcEntire: @mgbuehrlen If you don’t hate Twilight, it has some good interviews/out takes. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm bonnieadamson: @DDHearn This is how I’m hoping to ease into it. Actually trying to think of term other than “blog.” #kidlitchat
9:21 pm stephanieruble: Thanks for the transcritps @gregpincus #kidlitchat
9:21 pm CherylRainfield: @EgmontUSA: Yes. As a reader, I want the books that reach me, that are well written. Same as writer. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm KateMessner: @KatGirl_Studio A blog tour is when an author guest blogs or does interviews on a series of different people’s blogs. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm joycelansky: @EgmontUSA We all write the best book we know how to write-then learn how to make it better. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm amberlough: @debbieohi Hence the need to turn off wifi and put Pages/Word in “full screen view.” #kidlitchat
9:21 pm srjohannes: @KatGirl_Studio whn author does series of interviews on diffrnt blogs. INgrid Law did huge 1 recently. Like 30 blogs in 1 week. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm CherylRainfield: @EgmontUSA Promo won’t make me read a book if the writing doesn’t pull me in. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm MyraMcEntire: @EgmontGal I do! She’s my neighbor and friend. I’m so glad to hear someone likes the series. Lotsa bashing. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm TaraLazar: @srjohannes Yes, botox. A book that’s been artificially pumped up…and lacking emotion. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm EgmontGal: @TaraLazar oh god yes. If we can’t convince our colleagues we love a book and have a plan for it, how can we convince sales? #kidlitchat
9:21 pm HeleneBoudreau: @KateMessner author visits are one of my favourite parts of being an author. That and the pyjamas til noon thing #kidlitchat
9:22 pm srjohannes: @debbieohi that’s so true – you have to plan it wisely into your week. #kidlitchat
9:22 pm LaFabuliste: @bonnieadamson As bookseller, will handsell anything that I love, love, love. Or anything that fits what a kid wants/needs #kidlitchat
9:22 pm MyraMcEntire: @mgbuehrlen As much as she will give me! Apparently Kellan Lutz gives good hugs. *drops dead* #kidlitchat
9:22 pm kparra: RT: Writers, please – the best thing you can do is write the best book you can and keep working on your writing. #kidlitchat @EgmontUSA
9:22 pm mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire I’ve definitely been there… *once or twice* #kidlitchat
9:22 pm TaraLazar: @HeleneBoudreau I’m with you on the jammies. (And my kids still in jammies, too.) #kidlitchat
9:22 pm Idaho_Laurie: Stomach growling for supper. Thank you writers, editors, illustrators! #kidlitchat
9:22 pm LaFabuliste: As a seller, for me, it’s about the kid, not the book. #kidlitchat
9:22 pm EgmontGal: @MyraMcEntire We have 3 posters of Edward Cullen at Egmont USA. It’s beginning to bug some people… #kidlitchat
9:22 pm CherylRainfield: @EgmontGal Yes, I’m so careful w that in critique groups bc I know I need the positive to hear the negative, myself. #kidlitchat
9:22 pm coolkidsread: I’d love to feature u on mine! RT @KateMessner A blog tour = an author guest blogs/does interviews on a series of blogs. #kidlitchat
9:23 pm amberlough: @HeleneBoudreau I can’t wait to do author visits one day. I’ve already started doing free teen writing class at lib. So fun! #kidlitchat
9:23 pm jeanie_w: Too true! RT @debbieohi: Social networking can be great for writers, but there’s also a danger of it being a time suck #kidlitchat
9:23 pm realmlovejoy: @srjohannes 30 blogs? Wow! Takes so much energy just to do one. #kidlitchat
9:23 pm bonnieadamson: @LaFabuliste That’s encouraging! #kidlitchat
9:23 pm KatGirl_Studio: oh that makes sense #kidlitchat
9:23 pm sarahshum: @BonnieAdamson the big chains don’t take every bk. need other ways to get books not there to readers = author help (and indies!) #kidlitchat
9:23 pm KayCassidy: Wow, a long one tonight! Glad it’s still going strong so I can catch the tail end. #kidlitchat
9:23 pm dlschubert: @TaraLazar BTW: Lazar is my maiden name! #kidlitchat
9:23 pm debbieohi: @srjohannes And minimizing researching online WHILE writing. That’s my downfall. (“Just gotta check a fact…”) #kidlitchat
9:23 pm mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire Gah! A few of my close friends would flip. I’m not a book basher, though I do have quibbles about the film… #kidlitchat
9:23 pm MyraMcEntire: @mgbuehrlen LOL! Yay! My friend is Alphie. She brought me a Forks sweatshirt! And sent me text pics from her set visit! #kidlitchat
9:24 pm DDHearn: @EgmontUSA Thanks. I so enjoyed illustrating for her. She was always gracious and helpful. #kidlitchat
9:24 pm AudryT: Honestly, I disagree. Not every book needs to be a labor of love, but every book needs to have a purpose. @AnjelusX #kidlitchat
9:24 pm EgmontUSA: @KayCassidy Hi Kay! #kidlitchat
9:24 pm DDHearn: RT @mgbuehrlen: RT @MyraMcEntire: @sarahshum I appreciate the industry professionals who spend time at kid lit chat. << Me too! #kidlitchat
9:24 pm JodiRMoore: re: convincing sales, Clive Davis said he sends songs out for consumer testing to make sure they are hits-do publishers do this? #kidlitchat
9:24 pm HeleneBoudreau: @CherylRainfield My presentations vary depending on the teachers/schools/students needs. Mostly, try 2 keep it fun/intractv #kidlitchat
9:24 pm TaraLazar: @dlschubert Nice to meet another Lazar! (For the record, no relation to agent Daniel Lazar.) #kidlitchat
9:24 pm ktubb: RT @debbieoh: And minimizing researching online WHILE writing. Thats my downfall.<<Mine, too! #kidlitchat
9:24 pm amyknichols: @debbieohi Research is my bane, too. Checking “just one fact” and suddenly hours are gone. *poof* #kidlitchat
9:24 pm amberlough: @DDHearn BTW, I’m going to Blacksburg for Thanksgiving. MIL lives there. She’s a librarian, which is cool. #kidlitchat
9:24 pm sarahshum: Okay, #kidlitchat tweeps. Other things to accomplish tonight. Thanks for the great chat. Goodnight!
9:24 pm LiaKeyes: @gregpincus Thanks for another great chat! #kidlitchat
9:24 pm jeanie_w: @EgmontGal I will always think of RPattz as Cedric Diggory. It’s like he died and turned into a vampire. #kidlitchat
9:25 pm bonnieadamson: @sarahshum Discussions like these are helping me get a much better grasp of the business realities. #kidlitchat
9:25 pm srjohannes: @debbieohi i do same thing! #kidlitchat
9:25 pm EgmontGal: @JodiRMoore No! I have some evidence that consumer testing with kids fails. I mean on a large scale. In schools etc #kidlitchat
9:25 pm MyraMcEntire: @EgmontGal Almost afraid admit, but Edward on a Stick lives in my writing closet. All the details in a blog post which I’ll DM. #kidlitchat
9:25 pm debbieohi: @jeanie_w It’s sometimes too easy to justify the social networking as work-related. I set a timer to keep me accountable! #kidlitchat
9:25 pm kparra: I agree 2 @jeanie_w RT @debbieohi: Social networking can be great for writers, but there’s also a danger of it being a time suck #kidlitchat
9:25 pm EgmontGal: @jeanie_w @egmontusa always says the same thing #kidlitchat
9:25 pm gregpincus: Thank you all – this transcript is gonna be chock full of good stuff! #kidlitchat
9:25 pm amberlough: Thank you, everyone, for hanging out on kidlitchat. It’s fun to be with colleagues. No matter if you’re clothed or not. #kidlitchat
