Kidlitchat Transcript – September 15 (part 2)
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8:31 pm mgbuehrlen: I’ve tried sorting friends on FB but it’s too time consuming. Easier to keep it restricted to only people I know/trust. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm LiaKeyes: @MyraMcEntire FB personal page for friends and sharing gen info, fan page for developing book in collaboration with fans’ input. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm leewind: @susanwrites I love that we’re BOTH right! awesome. Maybe blog comments are like list-serves: time-delayed dialog. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm EgmontUSA: @bonnieadamson Nope. You just need to claim it before someone else does. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm joycelansky: @saundramitchell How do you get that kind of web info? I have no idea who visits unless they post. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm srjohannes: Cant type fast enough.I answr alot of these media ? on my mrkt blog. Also do a roundup evry FRI on social media.Love ths stuff! #kidlitchat
8:31 pm nandinibajpai: @rillajaggia Katia Novet-Saint Lot right? Good friend of mine. And yes, the Amadi’s Snowman blog tour was a hit! #kidlitchat
8:31 pm pattyjansen: I love MG books that hold messages to both kids and parents who read the books aloud for their kids #kidlitchat
8:31 pm ktubb: RT @MyraMcEntire: What about fan pages on FB vs. personal pages? <<I have to admit I rarely visit fan pages. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm debbieohi: @gregpincus Oh! Thanks for the non-capitalization tip.
#kidlitchat
8:31 pm LiaKeyes: @bonnieadamson I think you only need 150 fans for searchable url on FB fan page. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm lynnekelly: @literaticat Enjoy your posh dinner, even though we miss you at #kidlitchat!
8:31 pm MyraMcEntire: @joycelansky Try Stat Counter. Free and user friendly. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm elisanader: Agree w/@thefayz that MySpace is kinda dead for social netwoking. UStream will be huge in a few months & where teens are now. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm mitaliperkins: @bonnieadamson You need a hundred fans to get a user name for a FB page, right? Not sure how many you need to show up in search. #kidlitchat
8:31 pm KindrilyKaren: @christytrujillo a chat amongst writers/agents/editors about the literary world. Come join us! But buckle your seat belt! #kidlitchat
8:31 pm saundramitchell: @cyalin I tell my family- plz don’t friend me if you want to share private info! #kidlitchat
8:31 pm EgmontGal: Has anyone ever gotten in trouble–had backlash–for anything they posted, tweeted, etc? #kidlitchat
8:32 pm mgbuehrlen: @MyraMcEntire I like fan pages for personalities or companies. Authors definitely fall into that. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm tabithaolson: How many of you create book trailers? Do you think they’re effective? #kidlitchat
8:32 pm DDHearn: Coming in late. My daughter is going to New Zealand and we were getting details. What’s up? #kidlitchat
8:32 pm MyraMcEntire: @ktubb Only if something interesting shows up in my feed. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm rillajaggia: @nandinibajpai Wow! is she? That’s so cool. Yes, that’s who I’m referring too. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm susanwrites: @bonnieadamson I don’t know details for searchable fan page. Maybe @gregpincus does? I don’t see people going to them much #kidlitchat
8:32 pm ktubb: RT @srjohannes: on my mrkt blog. Also do a roundup evry FRI on social media <<<Shelley’s blog ROCKS, y’all! “Market My Words” #kidlitchat
8:32 pm cyalin: @susanwrites Think that too. It’ll help keep personal vs public sep but you’d need to be known for a fan page. Blogs are better. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm debbieohi: @mgbuehrlen I used to restrict my FB page but a post by @janefriedman convinced me to open it up. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm swdillard: @EgmontGal Alice Hoffman….. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm susanwrites: @leewind I couldn’t let you be wrong on your birthday.
#kidlitchat
8:32 pm jeanie_w: @amberlough Ah, I hadn’t thought of the Harry Potter reference. I was thinking database management. I am pedantic tonite. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm LiaKeyes: @ktubb My book’s FB fanpage is a very active conversation between me and those waiting for the book. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm EgmontGal: @literaticat I guess eating ice cream out of the tub is not posh? That was my dinner. But I had a root canal today, ouch! #kidlitchat
8:32 pm marybrebner: @elisanader What’s UStream? Why will it be big? (Hey, I want to be cutting edge…lol) #kidlitchat
8:32 pm debbieohi: @DDHearn We’re talking about social networking and how we use it. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm saundramitchell: @joycelansky It’s in the Control Panel for my webspace. I administer my own site, so I have access to my access logs. V. useful! #kidlitchat
8:32 pm cyalin: @EgmontGal Good question. Personally, no. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm bonnieadamson: @EgmontUSA Claimed my name for my personal FB, read they wouldn’t give out vanity urls for pages w/o large following. #kidlitchat
8:32 pm sarahshum: @mgbuehrlen authors guest on author and book-blogger’s blogs to promote their books & share /cross-audiences #kidlitchat
8:32 pm KrisYankee: @LaFabuliste Thanks! #kidlitchat
8:32 pm gregpincus: @krisyankee Follow the conversations. Join in them. Don’t worry about targetting who follows you, imo #kidlitchat
8:33 pm MyraMcEntire: @EgmontGal Yes, RE: getting in trouble. #kidlitchat
8:33 pm amyknichols: @tabithaolson If they’re not done well, I don’t want to read the book, you know? #kidlitchat
8:33 pm srjohannes: @amberlough *sigh* me too – bummer to be pigeonholed huh! makes me want to rebel!
#kidlitchat
8:33 pm nandinibajpai: @rillajaggia small world …
#kidlitchat
8:33 pm dosankodebbie: Does anyone use Bebo for social networking? I’m a bit at loss how to use it. #kidlitchat
8:33 pm ktubb: @LiaKeyes I’d love to see how you’ve set it up! #kidlitchat
8:33 pm debbieohi: @susanwrites Hey, is it @leewind’s birthday today? #kidlitchat
8:33 pm jsmithready: @SaundraMitchell Yep, I’ve had to remind our moms to pleeease remember lots of strangers can see their comments, LOL. #kidlitchat
8:33 pm SarahDarerLitt: @EgmontGal No, but I did create separate blog and Twitter acct for my political writing just in case. #kidlitchat
8:33 pm EgmontGal: @swdillard Alice Hoffman, oh God yes! Was she nuts? So disappointing that she is like that #kidlitchat
8:33 pm cyalin: @SaundraMitchell Good solution. #kidlitchat
8:33 pm bonnieadamson: @mitaliperkins Hmmm–thought it was more. That’s doable. #kidlitchat
8:33 pm mitaliperkins: Tilbury books did a great job setting up the blog tour for AMADI’S SNOWMAN. I was impressed. #kidlitchat
8:33 pm mgbuehrlen: A friend of mine, published author with Scholastic, has a FB fan page for his book: http://twurl.cc/1ln7 Works really well. #kidlitchat
8:33 pm RobbWriter: @michellewitte RT All right. I’m going to try and wade into #kidlitchat. Wish me luck.<In half an hour, we’re coming in to save you.>
8:33 pm rillajaggia: @debbieohi No, it’s the birthday of his blog–it turns two! #kidlitchat
8:33 pm swdillard: @EgmontGal I know, I cringed for her. #kidlitchat
8:33 pm EgmontGal: @MyraMcEntire what did you get in trouble for? Can you couch it in generalizations? #kidlitchat
8:34 pm srjohannes: @ktubb aw that was sweet kristin! thx. I love this stuff (only as day job of course
and wish I could answer all these great ? #kidlitchat
8:34 pm CherylRainfield: @sarahsmum Yes! & sometimes I just can’t keep up w new followers, & email, & writing, & blog. But eventually check out followers #kidlitchat
8:34 pm susanwrites: @debbieohi Yep! Happy birthday to @leewind! #kidlitchat
8:34 pm auntieflamingo: I’ve seen very few good book trailers. One of my favs is for the book Pond Scum #kidlitchat
8:34 pm amberlough: @srjohannes Yeah, but it’s nice to be grouped with the teens. Makes me feel closer to audience, even tho I’m nearly 30. #kidlitchat
8:34 pm LiaKeyes: @ktubb I have a different photo album for each book that includes inspirations, costumes, cars, world-building & post excerpts. #kidlitchat
8:34 pm gregpincus: @EgmontGal People get in trouble all the time. Alice Hoffman. http://www.ciscofatty.com is another classic #kidlitchat
8:34 pm rillajaggia: @mitaliperkins Yes, that’s who I was referring to. Katia did a superb job.. #kidlitchat
8:34 pm saundramitchell: @EgmontGal Yeahhhhh, I learned the hard way about mistaking association for friendship on Twitter/blogland. #kidlitchat
8:34 pm debbieohi: @rillajaggia
Thanks for the clarification re: @leewind’s blog birthday. #kidlitchat
8:34 pm mitaliperkins: I post my blog on my FB author page so I don’t overwhelm my regular FB friends. And I use lists like crazy. #kidlitchat
8:34 pm KateMessner: @tabithaolson I think bk trailers can be effective if unique. My GIANNA Z. trailer was re-posted a bunch. http://alturl.com/w34a #kidlitchat
8:35 pm edithcohn: Facebook is my crack. It’s my fav of the social networking sites. #kidlitchat
8:35 pm mgbuehrlen: @debbieohi Oh yeah? What was her take? #kidlitchat
8:35 pm gregpincus: I believe it’s only @leewind’s blogoversary today. 2nd one AND he won a Book Blogger Appreiciation Award! #kidlitchat
8:35 pm cyalin: Signing off, where are transcripts posted? #kidlitchat
8:35 pm AuthorTaraKelly: I plan on making my own book trailer, but my BA was in film so, lol. It finally came in handy
#kidlitchat
8:35 pm srjohannes: @amberlough yeah but Im not in your group
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8:35 pm tabithaolson: @saundramitchell Hi Saundra! Great solution re: Facebook. I need to do that. #kidlitchat
8:35 pm sarahshum: @CherylRainfield novels are a similar kind of ent to movies, right? I find them appealing — can create mood and excitement #kidlitchat
8:35 pm ktubb: @LiaKeyes Sounds great! Is it under Lia Keyes? #kidlitchat
8:35 pm PictureBookArt: Not sure I have enough 2 say that isn’t spam-ish for a blog,. I try to bring value, not just blab. Is that wrong? #kidlitchat
8:35 pm susanwrites: @rillajaggia Whoops. You’re right. Blog birthday. That will teach me to Tweet and eat dinner at the same time. @leewind #kidlitchat
8:35 pm bonnieadamson: @leewind–yes–Happy Birthday!! Thank you for spending part of it with us! #kidlitchat
8:35 pm pvlundqvist: RT @hatbooks: @KrisYankee one way to find MG parent followers is first to find MG librarians #kidlitchat That’s a great idea.
8:35 pm amberlough: LOL RT @edithcohn: Facebook is my crack. Its my fav of the social networking sites. #kidlitchat
8:35 pm bwileyjax: #kidlitchat I am pretty new to the whole social networking thing. Can one be to pushy talking about their projects and self promoting?
8:35 pm mgbuehrlen: @sarahshum Ah, like interviews or guest blogs? (I’m not too blog-savvy, but trying to learn!) #kidlitchat
8:35 pm MyraMcEntire: @EgmontGal Made what I thought was generalized comment – “friends” fought with each other without knowing one another! #kidlitchat
8:35 pm EllenHopkinsYA: @EgmontGal #kidlitchat Sorry, darlin’… typing fast is not my best thing… although I guess it’s all relative
8:35 pm EgmontGal: @edithcohn Crack is my crack. Facebook is the 3 hrs a night on the phone of my high school years. #kidlitchat
8:35 pm susanwrites: @edithcohn What do you like best about Facebook? #kidlitchat
8:35 pm debbieohi: re: private/public in blogs etc. I always assume that anything I post is going to be read by the person I least want to read it. #kidlitchat
8:36 pm marybrebner: @KateMessner Your book, GIANNA Z, looks great btw. Can’t wait to read it (see, found that on Twitter, too!). #kidlitchat
8:36 pm tabithaolson: @amyknichols Yeah, know what you mean. But how do you create an effective book trailer? #kidlitchat
8:36 pm leewind: @gregpincus Thanks for sharing that – it sounds better (less BSP) coming from you! #kidlitchat
8:36 pm onbeyondwords: just joining in to #kidlitchat – my understanding is myspace has evolved into the social networking platform primarily used by musicians
8:36 pm amberlough: @srjohannes Then you don’t have the Gen Y vices.
#kidlitchat
8:36 pm debbieohi: @leewind Wow, congrats on winning the BBAW award for Best GLBT Review Blog!! #kidlitchat
8:36 pm MyraMcEntire: @EgmontGal Had a friend who is a well known singer comment on a billboard – turned into a free for all. #kidlitchat
8:36 pm mgbuehrlen: @dosankodebbie I had one friend try to get me to use it, but didn’t see a need. re: Bebo #kidlitchat
8:36 pm bonnieadamson: @leewinf Happy BLOG birthday! And congrats!! #kidlitchat
8:36 pm CherylRainfield: @leewind Congratulations!! #kidlitchat
8:36 pm rillajaggia: RT @debbieohi: …. I always assume that anything I post is going to be read by the person I least want to read it. #kidlitchat
8:36 pm auntieflamingo: When I get published I will make a book trailer but I’ve been trying to find good ones as examples #kidlitchat
8:37 pm mitaliperkins: We should think about having a workshop at @scbwi10 on the secrets to low-cost, effective book trailers. #kidlitchat
8:37 pm LiaKeyes: @ktubb You can find a link on www.facebook.com/liakeyes or go to www.facebook.com/TempusChronicles #kidlitchat
8:37 pm jeanie_w: @leewind Happy Blogday! #kidlitchat
8:37 pm amyknichols: @tabithaolson Hire someone who knows what they’re doing.
Or find a student at a design college who’ll help out for cheap? #kidlitchat
8:37 pm EgmontGal: @EllenHopkinsYA Now that you’re a #1 bestselling author, get someone to sit by your side and type as you dictate! #kidlitchat
8:37 pm KerrieHollihan: how do I get to this blog later? #kidlitchat
8:37 pm srjohannes: @EgmontGal my hair dresser cussed me out on my Fb page b/c I compared my hair cut to jeanine garafolo in reality bites.
#kidlitchat
8:37 pm joycelansky: @KrisYankee Kids lie about age to access FB. Some middle school kids on it. #kidlitchat
8:37 pm PictureBookArt: @debbieohi #kidlitchat I like that approach! A good way to think about your posts…
8:37 pm rillajaggia: @leewind Congratulations on the award and the blog birthday! #kidlitchat
8:37 pm KateMessner: @marybrebner Thanks, Mary! (See? There’s one more reason for me to love Twitter!) #kidlitchat
8:37 pm johnlechner: @tabithaolson Book trailers don’t bring lots of sales (unless you’re famous already), but every little bit of marketing helps. #kidlitchat
8:37 pm amyknichols: @leewind Yes, Happy Blogbday and congratulations!
#kidlitchat
8:37 pm EgmontGal: @mitaliperkins maybe book trailers will be passe by then. What we need in scbwi10 is “what online stuff is working NOW?” #kidlitchat
8:37 pm nandinibajpai: Signing off … school night. Thanks all! #kidlitchat
8:37 pm CherylRainfield: @debbieohi Very smart & very important to remember. The net is public. #kidlitchat
8:37 pm hatbooks: RT @mitaliperkins: We should think about having a workshop at @scbwi10 on the secrets to low-cost, effective book trailers. #kidlitchat
8:37 pm jsmithready: @MyraMcEntire One of my readers made me a FB fan page, but I purposely stay away. Hard not to control-freak it, though.
#kidlitchat
8:37 pm amberlough: @srjohannes That is classic. #kidlitchat
8:37 pm LaFabuliste: @auntieflamingo I liked the one for GRACELING #kidlitchat
8:37 pm Idaho_Laurie: @saundramitchell So how do you refer to acquaintances & blogmates you’ve exchanged comments/tweets with? #kidlitchat
8:37 pm bwileyjax: #kidlitchat Facebook to me is more of keeping up with friends and family. My wife’s facebook page on the other hand….
8:37 pm MyraMcEntire: @srjohannes YEEOUCH. Hope you found a new stylist. #kidlitchat
8:37 pm elisanader: @marybrebner UStream is live, streaming video shows from your webcam. John Green just did a show using it. BlogTV is out! #kidlitchat
8:37 pm KrisYankee: Missed this Thanks!RT @hatbooks: @KrisYankee one way to find MG parent followers is first to find MG librarians #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
8:38 pm leewind: @debbieohi good strategy. (post imagining person you’d least like to read it reading it) #kidlitchat
8:38 pm debbieohi: @PictureBookArt It always keeps me accountable. It’s one reason I don’t lock my posts or my feed. Nothing’s private online. #kidlitchat
8:38 pm SaraLewisHolmes: @KateMessner And your class twitters too, right? How’s that going? #kidlitchat
8:38 pm ChristineTB: I’m going to do that. Art students are finding employment elusive – good place to shop for someone to produce a video trailer. #kidlitchat
8:38 pm PattyJMurphy: @MyraMcEntire: Hi, Myra@ Would that “friend” be Reba? LOL #kidlitchat
8:38 pm marybrebner: @mitaliperkins Sounds like a great idea! Best bet, I’d think is to create funny trailers that could go viral, reach kids #kidlitchat
8:38 pm mitaliperkins: @johnlechner Your trailer for THE CLEVER STICK was great. I try to post trailers for books we celebrate with #bookbday parties. #kidlitchat
8:38 pm catesfolly: You have a link for it? RT @LaFabuliste: @auntieflamingo I liked the one for GRACELING #kidlitchat
8:38 pm rillajaggia: @johnlechner They do add some spice to your page though, and keep a viewer there longer and remember. #kidlitchat
8:38 pm EgmontGal: There are several famous cases in kid’s pubishing where someone wrote an email that went viral. Be careful anytime you hit send #kidlitchat
8:38 pm amberlough: @SaraLewisHolmes Hi Sara! #kidlitchat
8:38 pm bwileyjax: #kidlitchat is a combination of work and friends and family and she does have to be cautious of what she says.
8:39 pm AuthorTaraKelly: I’m making a soundtrack for my book (but it’s about a band, so it probably makes more sense than most). People LOVE playlists. #kidlitchat
8:39 pm ChristineTB: Cindy Pon’s trailer is well done, I think. It’s a good model to follow. #kidlitchat
8:39 pm dosankodebbie: @mgbuehrlen I was attracted to Bebo because it seemed a lot of artists/illustrators used it. But I can’t seem to connect w/them #kidlitchat
8:39 pm katie_bowden: @tabithaolson You need something like Keynote (for MAC). It’s a souped up Powerpoint, and it lets you to create Quicktime files #kidlitchat
8:39 pm CREvers: I made a book trailer & I’m not published yet. :0) I did it for fun. It was easy on my i-movie software. #kidlitchat
8:39 pm MyraMcEntire: @PattyJMurphy LOL! No. Although my grandmother-in-law likes to tell people that all the time! #kidlitchat
8:39 pm ktubb: RT @srjohannes: my hair dresser cussed me out on my Fb page b/c I compared my hair cut to jeanine garafolo <<HA!
#kidlitchat
8:39 pm CherylRainfield: Yes! RT @mitaliperkins: We should think about having a workshop at @scbwi10 on the secrets to low-cost, effective book trailers. #kidlitchat
8:39 pm Shelltex: @srjohannes I remember that blog post. Didn’t know your hairdresser saw it. YOu should write an article about that. Funny stuff. #kidlitchat
8:39 pm debbieohi: @leewind I’m floored by some of the stuff people post. It comes back to haunt them later (like Alice Hoffman)! #kidlitchat
8:39 pm leewind: Thank you, all, for the blogoversary and BBAW best GLBT review blog Award kind words. Quite a day! #kidlitchat
8:39 pm srjohannes: @MyraMcEntire had to I was afraid she’d shave my head. I wasnt putting the hair down – I actually liked it #kidlitchat
8:39 pm saundramitchell: @EgmontGal Was a shock when we found out sometimes agents just forward our complainy e-mails to our eds! #kidlitchat
8:39 pm SaraLewisHolmes: @amberlough Hey there! #kidlitchat
8:39 pm amberlough: RT @ChristineTB: Cindy Pons trailer is well done, I think. Its a good model to follow. #kidlitchat
8:39 pm mitaliperkins: @EgmontGal Trailers help me when I am almost to the point of selecting a book. #kidlitchat
8:39 pm ninaberry: @elisanader. So you think UStream will soon have teens streaming to each other? How will they use it except to show us puppies? #kidlitchat
8:39 pm mgbuehrlen: When trying to blog, I can’t help feeling vain and self-centered. However, I love reading others’ blogs. How do I get past this? #kidlitchat
8:39 pm toofondofbooks: @EgmontGal that’s great advice for *anyone* (Be careful anytime you hit send #kidlitchat)
8:39 pm HeleneBoudreau: Fav Book trailer: SHIVER in playdough: http://bit.ly/iZ945 #kidlitchat
8:39 pm bonnieadamson: RT @mitaliperkins: @johnlechner Your trailer for THE CLEVER STICK was great. <–Agree! #kidlitchat
8:39 pm edithcohn: @susanwrites FB does everything. Automatic blog feed, people can blog comment on FB, status updates like twitter but w. comments #kidlitchat
8:39 pm jessicaleeander: @joycelansky I’ve had middle school students add me after a school visit and their FB pages say they’re 25 or 30, lol #kidlitchat
8:40 pm auntieflamingo: I agree THE CLEVER STICK was the other book trailer I liked. I posted in on my blog. #kidlitchat
8:40 pm JesseMarieKlaus: Hello! Sorry I’m tardy. Thank you for replying to my reply to your blog @gregpincus I always enjoy it. #kidlitchat
8:40 pm Shelltex: Are all book trailers being done by authors or are some pubs doing them? #kidlitchat
8:40 pm joycelansky: @Shelltex I’d like to buy C. Lui’s book after friendly advice but have never run across one in a store. I know-I could order. #kidlitchat
8:40 pm srjohannes: @Shelltex i know and it wasnt even a bad post right? #kidlitchat
8:40 pm ChristineTB: @katie_bowden If you use Keynote – try iMovie. It’s a more elegant solution for creating quicktime videos. #kidlitchat
8:40 pm gregpincus: Everyone should have a built in “count to 10 and think” before posting/clicking submit/sending #kidlitchat
8:40 pm EgmontGal: @saundramitchell I’ve had the opposite. Written a report for another editor and had it forwarded straight on. Waaaaah #kidlitchat
8:40 pm debbieohi: @CherylRainfield Agreed! It’s hard to remember that sometimes, though, when you’re posting in what seems to be a private venue. #kidlitchat
8:40 pm rillajaggia: @mgbuehrlen Writer about someone else or something that’s not too personal for a start. #kidlitchat
8:40 pm mitaliperkins: @mgbuehrlen The Golden Rule works online as well as offline to help keep the ego in check. Try to serve others with your blog. #kidlitchat
8:40 pm KrisYankee: Agree RT@EgmontGal What we need in scbwi10 is “what online stuff is working NOW?” #kidlitchat
8:40 pm marybrebner: @mgbuehrlen Think about a blog as your journal, pick a topic you’re interested in or learning about & talk about it. No pressure #kidlitchat
8:40 pm debbieohi: RT @gregpincus: Everyone should have a built in “count to 10 and think” before posting/clicking submit/sending. #kidlitchat
8:40 pm kaerfel: My favorite book trailers are all author-made, usually for very cheap or with no budget at all, just a camera. #kidlitchat
8:41 pm ChristineTB: @gregpincus Where is the fun in thinking before we click? Notoriety may drive book sales (smile). #kidlitchat
8:41 pm saundramitchell: @EgmontGal LOL maybe it’s time for AutoSubjectLine: DO NOT FORWARD. #kidlitchat
8:41 pm KateMessner: @SaraLewisHolmes Yep – and my 7th graders were thrilled to see you following them, Sara – I had just booktalked Operation Yes! #kidlitchat
8:41 pm srjohannes: so many inexpensive ways to do a good quality trailer these days! #kidlitchat
8:41 pm swdillard: @gregpincus whoa, it moves much too fast– 10 seconds and there are 20 more posts! #kidlitchat
8:41 pm EgmontGal: @mitaliperkins I know a trailer can make me want to read a book, but say more about how they help you select? what if book good #kidlitchat
8:41 pm LauraHamor: that is a good policy @gregpincus #kidlitchat
8:41 pm johnlechner: I do love book trailers, but they need just as much thought as designing the book cover, can’t be thrown together #kidlitchat
8:41 pm mgbuehrlen: @dosankodebbie Stick with what works for you, what gets you feeling in the groove. For me it’s Twitter. #kidlitchat
8:41 pm CherylRainfield: I post some book trailers I really like on my blog. I like helping get the word out & seeing what others do #kidlitchat
8:41 pm amberlough: @HeleneBoudreau SHIVER is wonderful. So’s the trailer. Maggie is a master-of-all. #kidlitchat
8:41 pm EgmontGal: @mitaliperkins and the trailer is bad? #kidlitchat
8:41 pm onbeyondwords: @bwileyjax how much to self promote is an issue – I try to mix it up – a link to my blog one post, a general comment the next #kidlitchat
8:41 pm jeanie_w: @gregpincus I agree. Think that what you put out there can reach anyone and everyone forever. #kidlitchat
8:41 pm KellyDHouse: @gregpincus do you post the transcripts to #kidlitchat on your blog? #kidlitchat
8:41 pm EgmontGal: @swdillard I know, this is all very schizophrenogenic! #kidlitchat
8:41 pm CREvers: @Shelltex the authors I know hired someone to do it. #kidlitchat
8:41 pm sarahshum: @gregpincus Ha! I do that. I type into twitter about 10 x more often than I post. Still doesn’t prevent stupid tweets, but… #kidlitchat
8:42 pm debbieohi: @peg366 Absolutely. Just because tweets are short doesn’t mean they can’t do a lot of damage to your reputation. #kidlitchat
8:42 pm katie_bowden: @ChristineTB Yes! That’s the other tool I was trying to think of. #kidlitchat
8:42 pm mitaliperkins: @EgmontGal Good point. Strive for excellence in everything you do to promote your precious, including trailers. #kidlitchat
8:42 pm EllenHopkinsYA: @EgmontGal #kidlitchat the person available is my husband, and that ain’t gonna work!!!!!!
8:42 pm bonnieadamson: @johnlechner Did you think about the trailer when designing the book? #kidlitchat
8:42 pm CherylRainfield: @debbiohi Oh yes. I’m glad for the reminders
#kidlitchat
8:42 pm mgbuehrlen: RT @mitaliperkins: The Golden Rule works to help keep the ego in check. Try to serve others with your blog. << great advice! #kidlitchat
8:42 pm srjohannes: @mitaliperkins me too – its the visual I need to put me over the top. #kidlitchat
8:42 pm catesfolly: Yes! RT @mitaliperkins: @mgbuehrlen Golden Rule works online to help keep the ego in check.Try to serve others with your blog. #kidlitchat
8:42 pm auntieflamingo: I agree –> RT @johnlechner: they need just as much thought as designing the book cover, cant be thrown together #kidlitchat
8:42 pm KateMessner: As a teacher, I kind of wish more MG/YA authors were mindful of kids reading blogs. I’d love to be able to share more in class. #kidlitchat
8:42 pm LiaKeyes: @EllenHopkinsYA Hey, Ellen, nice to see you here! #kidlitchat
8:43 pm EllenHopkinsYA: #kidlitchat The main problem i’m seeing recently with all social networking is their servers can’t handle the volume. Across the board.
8:43 pm SaraLewisHolmes: @KateMessner Thank you for that! #kidlitchat
8:43 pm debbieohi: @CherylRainfield I’ve been online a while, so I’ve made most of the mistakes anyone could possibly make.
#kidlitchat
8:43 pm EgmontGal: Guys, what if you are a good writer but not a huge self promoter, don’t like blogging etc and have no idea how to make a trailer #kidlitchat
8:43 pm ChristineTB: @katie_bowden Was doing Keynote at Chautauqua. Kent’s nephew looked at me like I was nuts & showed me iMovie. I’m addicted now. #kidlitchat
8:43 pm katie_bowden: Re: book trailers. Dabble with the software tools to get a feel for what’s possible, but consider getting a professional’s help. #kidlitchat
8:43 pm leewind: Time to read a bedtime book! (Star Wars Visual Dictionary tonight!) Thanks everyone for the #kidlitchat Namaste and good night, Lee
8:43 pm bonnieadamson: @KateMessner Yes! Not to be a prude, but I’m appalled at some of the language. #kidlitchat
8:43 pm rillajaggia: @debbieohi Did you read about the author who went ballistic at a bad review and tweeted her hatred for the reviewer? didn’t help #kidlitchat
8:43 pm edithcohn: @EllenHopkinsYA I’ve mainly had problems with twitter being overloaded & shutting down #kidlitchat
8:43 pm MyraMcEntire: Great Beautiful Creatures trailer – by @reverieBR – http://bit.ly/snpAK #kidlitchat
8:43 pm bwileyjax: @onbeyondwords Thats seems like a good rule of thumb. There are a few that I follow that are just endless self promotions. #kidlitchat
8:43 pm amberlough: RT @KateMessner: As a teacher, I wish more MG/YA authors were mindful of kids reading blogs. Id love to share more in class. #kidlitchat
8:44 pm gregpincus: @swdillard It is very speedy. That’s why I’ve been posting transcripts (so, yes @KellyDHouse, I do!) #kidlitchat
8:44 pm EgmontGal: Oy, I got 5 spam marketing experts following me in the last hour, must be this chat #kidlitchat
8:44 pm debbieohi: @leewind Wow, that’s a very cool bedtime book. #kidlitchat
8:44 pm catesfolly: Re: blog posting of book trailers; can you download video directly or do you have to have file emailed to you? #kidlitchat
8:44 pm MyraMcEntire: @rillajaggia Alice Hoffman… #kidlitchat
8:44 pm EgmontGal: @rillajaggia that was Alice Hoffman #kidlitchat
8:44 pm ChristineTB: @EgmontGal A lot of writers are not good at promoting. Having a surrogate take care of that end helps – hire a student. #kidlitchat
8:44 pm mgbuehrlen: @EgmontGal As a short film maker, a poor quality book trailer can turn me off. But I think for most ppl they’re very enticing. #kidlitchat
8:44 pm EllenHopkinsYA: @gregpincus #kidlitchat Hell no! If I thought too much, not only would I not tweet, I probably wouldn’t write.
8:44 pm marybrebner: @EgmontGal In this day & age, seems if you don’t know, you really need to learn. HAVE to self-promote, if you want to sell books #kidlitchat
8:44 pm EgmontGal: @bonnieadamson @katemessner Some of the bad language where? I can’t follow you #kidlitchat
8:44 pm debbieohi: @rillajaggia Yes, that’s exactly the sort of nightmare situation that can happen. It’s always a VERY bad idea to post in anger. #kidlitchat
8:44 pm SaraLewisHolmes: @KateMessner My SIL uses my blog on Poetry Friday with her English class sometimes. I try to be mindful. #kidlitchat
8:44 pm lkblackburne: @KateMessner What kind of blogs are teenagers reading? #kidlitchat
8:44 pm PattyJMurphy: I think it’s when in doubt, don’t tweet it. If u need 2 address a gripe/concern, talk w/that person directly. Feel samew/email. #kidlitchat
8:44 pm mgbuehrlen: @EgmontGal Get a PR rep?
#kidlitchat
8:45 pm rillajaggia: @EgmontGal Thank you! That’s the one. #kidlitchat
8:45 pm sarahshum: @EgmontGal I have an author who says she’s very private and doesn’t want to be online. A little discouraging that she doesn’t? #kidlitchat
8:45 pm KrisYankee: @EgmontGal No offense, but a pub author needs to spend time publicizing their book. Publishers don’t have capital for newbies. #kidlitchat
8:45 pm EgmontGal: @mgbuehrlen but c’mon, making a book trailer not at all the same skill as writing a book! I worry that writers shouldn’t have to #kidlitchat
8:45 pm edithcohn: @EgmontGal Some successful writers don’t self promote. Write a fan-freakin-tastic book. That’s # 1 goal #kidlitchat
8:45 pm rillajaggia: @MyraMcEntire Yes! I’m terrible with names..but that one I should’ve remembered! Thanks! #kidlitchat
8:45 pm bonnieadamson: @EgmontGal On writers’ blogs–can’t share with class. #kidlitchat
8:45 pm DDHearn: @EgmontGal I”m with you there. I’ve never been a good horn tooter, and I find a lot of self promotion others do very annoying. #kidlitchat
8:45 pm MyraMcEntire: Would LOVE to develop college class for writers @ social media. You can find things in agent blogs you won’t from profs. #kidlitchat
8:45 pm KateMessner: @bonnieadamson Folks are obviously free to write what they want – but worth thinking about if you want to be classroom friendly. #kidlitchat
8:45 pm EgmontGal: @sarahshum No, I don’t think so. Couldn’t we make that the story? Help her some other way? We can’t all be chatty cathys #kidlitchat
8:46 pm aecbks: @sarahshum How does your marketing dept feel about a writer who doesn’t want to be online? #kidlitchat
8:46 pm catesfolly: @EgmontGal hire some help if you can; tons of young people with techie experience looking to build portfolio #kidlitchat
8:46 pm sarahshum: @EllenHopkinsYA okay, then, no 10-second rule for you!!! obey your instincts plz #kidlitchat
8:46 pm saundramitchell: @EgmontGal Even if you don’t know how to make a trailer,others do. @reveriebr for example, reviews + makes trailers on hire! #kidlitchat
8:46 pm HilaryWagner1: #kidlitchat My book comes out fall of 2010 and I’m desperately searching for every way possible to market it & myself! MUST…TRY…ALL!
8:46 pm amberlough: @EgmontGal I’ll worry about a trailer when I sell my first book. #kidlitchat
8:46 pm mitaliperkins: @sarahshum Tell her to check in with @ShrinkingViolets: Book Promotion for Introverts. Extremely helpful. #kidlitchat
8:46 pm swdillard: @EgmontGal That is so nice to hear you say– I’m always worrying about my marketing skills.. #kidlitchat
8:46 pm ChristineTB: @edithcohn Or sleep with someone famous (or yell at a line judge) and get in the news. (just kidding). #kidlitchat
8:46 pm saundramitchell: I’ve made trailers for other authors as well! #kidlitchat
8:46 pm KateMessner: @SaraLewisHolmes Yours is always a blog I know I can share with kids without worrying. Thanks for that! #kidlitchat
8:46 pm sarahshum: @aecbks I think it hurts her, and their willingness to work to promote her, if she’s not helping in any way she can #kidlitchat
8:46 pm onbeyondwords: @bwileyjax yes – it can be off-putting when people self promote aggressively – I strive to be informative, share valuable info #kidlitchat
8:46 pm EgmontGal: @edithcohn Yes! if your book is brilliant, we can hand sell it and say “he/she isn’t on line but man oh man can they write #kidlitchat
8:47 pm johnlechner: @bonnieadamson I never thought of the trailer until after the book was printed. It’s hard enough just focusing on the book!
#kidlitchat
8:47 pm saundramitchell: I’m v. v. v. shy and I don’t love in-person promotion. But I can work the heck out of the Internet! #kidlitchat
8:47 pm joycelansky: @sarahshum I don’t auto follow because I actually try to read what ppl post. I can’t keep up w/ 200 ppl. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm littlefluffycat: @EgmontGal I would say find a way to trade services – if you’ve networked at all, you should be able to find somebody. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm AuthorTaraKelly: @saundramitchell Hehe, being a techie geek does have its perks
#kidlitchat
8:47 pm rillajaggia: @debbieohi There’s a downside too though. I contstantly worry about every word I’ve ever written and how might be misconstrued #kidlitchat
8:47 pm KateMessner: @catesfolly To post bk trailers on blog, you can usually just copy & paste the embed code from YouTube. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm CherylRainfield: @KateMessner If self-promoters are too in-my-face or too all-about-them, I find it…hard. But if they contribute–I like it. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm jlpowers: @PattyJMurphy #kidlitchat I wrote an article about writerly public spats:http://www.newpages.com/features/online_literary_magazines.htm
8:47 pm ktubb: @KateMessner I found out how important this was when I went on a school visit and my website was projected behind me. Wow! #kidlitchat
8:47 pm EgmontGal: @amberlough my darling, congratulations on having your priorities straight “I’ll worry about trailer when i sell my 1st book” #kidlitchat
8:47 pm mgbuehrlen: @EgmontGal For me, a good recommendation is worth more than a trailer. I think they are fun, but shouldn’t be a necessity. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm DDHearn: I”ve suddenly been shut out of tweet chat. Hope it’ll start working again soon. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm LizaWiemer: #kidlitchat I deeply appreciate input/feedback from other authors/teachers & I do read their blogs. Love learning from others & sharing.
8:48 pm saundramitchell: @AuthorTaraKelly Amen, amen!! #kidlitchat
8:48 pm sarahshum: @mitaliperkins that’s a good resource, thanks! #kidlitchat
8:48 pm EgmontGal: @sarahshum when you put it that way “not willing to help” that sounds different. can you not help her, though ? #kidlitchat
8:48 pm AuthorTaraKelly: Me too. RT @saundramitchell: Im v. v. v. shy and I dont love in-person promotion. But I can work the heck out of the Internet! #kidlitchat
8:48 pm amberlough: @EgmontGal I’ll tell my agent you called me “darling”
#kidlitchat
8:48 pm debbieohi: @rillajaggia But as a writer, at least you have a better chance at being properly understood. Some are terrible online. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm LaFabuliste: Booktrailers seem so counter-book to me, though. Same reason I can’t do audiobks: the voice, the imagination needs to be from me #kidlitchat
8:48 pm jlpowers: @rillajaggia Me, too. I’ll wake up in the middle of the night, sweating, then get up to revise it if I’m too worried. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm amyknichols: @DDHearn I see you.
#kidlitchat
8:48 pm catesfolly: @KateMessner Thx. But not if it’s on an author’s blogsite apparently (instead of youtube) b/c of security restrictions. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm MyraMcEntire: Seems as if a trailer would be more a draw to “youngsters” who hang out on YouTube. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm bonnieadamson: @DDHearn I see you, Diane–switch to TweetDeck. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm mitaliperkins: @KateMessner It’s helpful to know your own kids are reading your blog. Keeps your toes inside the lines. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm edithcohn: @ChristineTB All I have to do is sleep with someone famous? Sign me up. J/K #kidlitchat
8:48 pm CherylRainfield: RT @saundramitchell: Im v. v. v. shy and I dont love in-person promotion. But I can work the heck out of the Internet! #kidlitchat
8:48 pm DDHearn: @amberlough Do you already have a blog? I’m amazed at how many unpublished people have blogs. Are they followed? #kidlitchat
8:48 pm KateMessner: @EgmontGal We were talking @ content in some author blogs that make it difficult to share them in the classroom. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm debbieohi: @DDHearn I’ve been shut out of Tweetchat sometimes, too! Hope you find your way back in. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm jsmithready: @KateMessner I keep in mind that my mom will be reading my blog, so I always keep it PG-rated.
#kidlitchat
8:49 pm rillajaggia: @debbieohi I would hope…but many grey hairs have resulted, nevertheless. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm aecbks: @mitaliperkins Twitter is saying@ShrinkingViolets doesn’t exist. Do you have another link? #kidlitchat
8:49 pm EgmontGal: @sarahshum I have a good author who didn’t know kidlit world AT ALL. I reached out here and people helped him. Allen Zadoff #kidlitchat
8:49 pm amberlough: @LaFabuliste What about Full Cast Audio books? They use a full cast, hence the name…. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm Shelltex: I look forward to having something to promote but have deep fear of being asked to wear costume to promote. LOL #kidlitchat
8:49 pm mitaliperkins: @CherylRainfield You have a warm and genuine online presence. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm KateMessner: @mitaliperkins And I know that my students read my blog…which really keeps me in line! #kidlitchat
8:49 pm ktubb: @KateMessner I should add – didn’t know it would be. All students had been asked to visit it (my website) before my visit. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm CherylRainfield: RT @saundramitchell: (laughing) Me, too! At least, I’m trying. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm EgmontGal: @KateMessner That’s a real toughy. because kids might respect that they use that language? as they do in their books? #kidlitchat
8:49 pm malindalo: @thegreatmissjj That’s great to know Twitter can work that way! I’m late in joining #kidlitchat but nice to see a mention of ASH.
8:49 pm sarahshum: @EgmontGal I’m an introvert, but to do my job… worry that in a crowded book market, authors need to have an outward reach #kidlitchat
8:49 pm peg366: #kidlitchat @LizaWiemer i love others blogs because they make me work harder at making mine as good as theirs.
8:50 pm bonnieadamson: RT @Shelltex: I look forward to having something to promote but have deep fear of being asked to wear costume to promote. LOL #kidlitchat
8:50 pm rillajaggia: @jlpowers We must be twins. Only problem is i wake up when it’s too late to reword! #kidlitchat
8:50 pm amberlough: @DDHearn I’ve had a blog since 2001, but didn’t make it a “writer” blog until 2007. I have few followers. Not pubbed = not cool. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm michellewitte: @KateMessner My boss reads my blog, so I definitely don’t say anything I shouldn’t. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm jlpowers: @EgmontGal I think that’s the great thing about the kid lit world. It’s pretty friendly. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm catesfolly: Librarians & teachers too? RT @MyraMcEntire: Seems as if a trailer would be more a draw to “youngsters” who hang out on YouTube. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm EgmontGal: I swear constantly at work (ask @egmontusa) but don’t swear on line since readership very broad, don’t want to offend #kidlitchat
8:50 pm EgmontUSA: @sarahshum If pubs were only took mss by big self-promoters, we’d lose some great books. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm srjohannes: I think there are many easy (online!) ways an author can promote their book. these days, authors have to be willing to do that! #kidlitchat
8:50 pm LaFabuliste: @amberlough But I still find that someone reading to me messes with the voice I hear in my imagination while reading. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm ChristineTB: Teachers send students to the authors sites or blogs before a visit. So having safe but fun content may be helpful. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm gregpincus: @EllenHopkinsYA But you understand about taking a step back, Ellen. Before doing anything too heinous online #kidlitchat
8:50 pm mitaliperkins: Oops, sorry. That introverted book promoting tweep for shy people to follow is @ShrinkngViolets #kidlitchat
8:50 pm Shelltex: @EgmontGal Agents post on the blueboard frequently. It really is a great resource. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm edithcohn: @MargieGelb Hey Margie, what up girl? Still think if your book is brilliant enough u get to be a hermit. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm debbieohi: @jlpowers @rillajaggia I’ve also learned that the more people read your blog, the greater chance of someone misunderstanding. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm EgmontGal: @jlpowers I love that about the kidlit world. we want to support each other and especially support other good books #kidlitchat
8:50 pm dlschubert: RT @PattyJMurphy When in doubt, don’t tweet it. If u need 2 address a gripe/concern, talk w/the person directly. Same w/email. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm joycelansky: @bwileyjax I quit following ppl who over tweet. I gain then lose followers after #kidlitchat. Pick up writers/lose others. #kidlitchat
8:51 pm DDHearn: @bonnieadamson I”m back. Thanks, everyone. I shut down and came back on, and all is well. #kidlitchat
8:51 pm jlpowers: @amberlough I’ve seen some blogs with nonpublished writers that have a lot of followers. Usually, they have a gimmick, tho. #kidlitchat
8:51 pm amberlough: @LaFabuliste ok, I agree with you on that one. #kidlitchat
8:51 pm DDHearn: RT @jsmithready: @KateMessner I keep in mind that my mom will be reading my blog, so I always keep it PG-rated.
#kidlitchat
8:51 pm debbieohi: @rillajaggia @jlpowers I accidentally posted a link today that took people to a white supremacy site instead of the SWFA site! #kidlitchat
8:51 pm EgmontGal: Our US boss stopped going on facebook when his wife and mother joined and @egmontusa and I struck up a relationship with them! #kidlitchat
8:51 pm aecbks: @mitaliperkins Thank you! #kidlitchat
8:51 pm mgbuehrlen: I try not to talk about anyone I know on FB, Twitter, blog, etc. It’s bad enough some ppl think they star in my novels. *sigh* #kidlitchat
8:51 pm AuthorTaraKelly: I keep getting followed by spammers *grumble* #kidlitchat
8:51 pm KatGirl_Studio: because i knew kids would be looking at my site i made it kid friendly, cute and animated #kidlitchat
8:51 pm mitaliperkins: I’m leery of sloppy retweeting because it can make me sound like I said something I didn’t. #kidlitchat
8:51 pm michellewitte: @EgmontGal You never know who will be reading your tweets/blog. I’ve had some near misses with offending people. #kidlitchat
8:52 pm debbieohi: @joycelansky That’s why I started a separate chat tweet account.
#kidlitchat
8:52 pm SaraLewisHolmes: @KateMessner My MIL reads mine—and chastises me if I don’t update it often enough.
#kidlitchat
8:52 pm Idaho_Laurie: Seems like with a quieter book, though — like say, Kate’s BRILLIANT FALL — self promotion is almost a must, yes? #kidlitchat
8:52 pm sarahshum: @EgmontUSA I don’t disagree, but publishing is a collaborative venture, surely. I’m not convinced authors can JUST write anymore #kidlitchat
8:52 pm srjohannes: @EgmontGal take a branding or marketing class to get basics. YOu can always pay someone to do it but there R EZ online ways #kidlitchat
8:52 pm CherylRainfield: RT @EgmontGal @jlpowers I love that about the kidlit world We want to support each other and especially support other good books #kidlitchat
8:52 pm amberlough: @jlpowers Yes, true. The more humorous the writer, the better. I’m too spent for bloggy humor!
#kidlitchat
8:52 pm aecbks: RT @EgmontGal: @jlpowers I love that about the kidlit world. want to support each other and especially support other good books #kidlitchat
8:52 pm edithcohn: @debbieohi White supremacy link? Rot Roh! #kidlitchat
8:52 pm LaFabuliste: Could not stand audio of WHAT I SAW AND HOW I LIED. Evie wasn’t that bubblesome. #kidlitchat
8:52 pm EgmontGal: @joycelansky can we stop our kidlitchat tweets from dumping into our regular tweets? Must be irritating #kidlitchat
8:52 pm srjohannes: @mitaliperkins I love shrinking violets too! #kidlitchat
8:52 pm amberlough: @debbieohi LMAO. #kidlitchat
8:52 pm EgmontGal: @michellewitte EXACTLY. I don’t touch politics, language, or anything I don’t like except mayonnaise. I stick to Paula Abdul #kidlitchat
8:52 pm auntieflamingo: @KatGirl_Studio I’ve told you this before but I love your site #kidlitchat
8:52 pm debbieohi: @mitaliperkins I agree re: being careful about how one retweets. Lots of editing needed sometimes! #kidlitchat
8:53 pm DDHearn: @amberlough Yeah. And I haven’t been published in awhile. Just about the same as not being published yet. Maybe worse. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm rillajaggia: @debbieohi that’s hilarous…or not! I think most people who follow you, know you well enough to realise the mistake. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm EgmontUSA: @saeahshum No, I absolutely agree. I just wonder if there’s a middle ground. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm KrisYankee: RT @sarahshum: @EgmontUSA publishing is a collaborative venture, surely. Im not convinced authors can JUST write anymore (agree) #kidlitchat
8:53 pm CherylRainfield: @debbieohi Wow! THat must’ve been freaky! #kidlitchat
8:53 pm EgmontGal: @srjohannes Shrinking violets has been GREAT for helping our new authors #kidlitchat
8:53 pm KindrilyKaren: RT @sarahshum @EgmontUSA publishing is a collaborative venture, surely. I’m not convinced authors can JUST write anymore #kidlitchat (woot!)
8:53 pm peg366: #kidlitchat I feed twitter to my blog, Working on feeding Facebook. My twittertweet also go to my facebook and I go by Peg366 on most.
8:53 pm edithcohn: @mgbuehrlen haha, let them think they’re the star! Why not? Maybe they’ll buy more. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm michellewitte: @EgmontGal I’m very careful about tweeting about work now, because co-workers/authors/bosses read it. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm jlpowers: @debbieohi whoo-hoo! I once typed in a web address for Arthur TV with a kid on my lap, turned out to be porn…with sound. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm debbieohi: @edithcohn @amberlough @rillajaggia I was horrified! Glad people let me know right away. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm EgmontUSA: @sarahshum No, I absolutely agree. I just wonder if there’s a middle ground. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm CherylRainfield: Can we? RT @EgmontGal: @joycelansky can we stop our kidlitchat tweets from dumping into our regular tweets? Must be irritating #kidlitchat
8:54 pm debbieohi: @jlpowers LOL!!! #kidlitchat
8:54 pm dlschubert: Was tempted to have a tantrum all over someone via Twitter. Kept my cool & next morning, didn’t remember what I was upset about. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm EgmontGal: @sarahshum I respectfully disagree. I think we can help writers who are good enough be found, even if they don’t have email! #kidlitchat
8:54 pm bonnieadamson: @EgmontGal People can snooze you–I don’t know how to snooze myself–anyone? #kidlitchat
8:54 pm mitaliperkins: @debbieohi Think I’d do the math and tweet fewer characters (including my @mitaliperkins) so I’m easy to RT as is. Duh. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm rillajaggia: @EgmontGal I think you can suggest to those who are irritated to pause you by goin to Twittersnooze.com. learned today! #kidlitchat
8:54 pm debbieohi: @dlschubert I’ve done that so many times, too. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm gregpincus: @EgmontGal You cannot stop tweets from showing but folks can use Twittersnooze to block your tweets for a set period of time #kidlitchat
8:54 pm amyknichols: @EgmontGal What is Shrinking Violets? Is there a link? #kidlitchat
8:54 pm mgbuehrlen: @edithcohn LOL maybe that can be my gimmick. They’ll tell their friends about it, right?
#kidlitchat
8:54 pm DDHearn: @debbieohi Oh NO! That must have been a nightmare for you. THough also kind of funny. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm KatGirl_Studio: @auntieflamingo thank you! I made it all myself. Proof that switching majors 4 times wasn’t a waste. #kidlitchat
8:55 pm KateMessner: @Idaho_Laurie And I’ve been really thankful for the other folks online talking up GIANNA Z. That helps a ton w/ quieter books. #kidlitchat
8:55 pm edithcohn: @MargieGelb Amen!! RT: Here’s hoping for brilliant then… #kidlitchat
8:55 pm debbieohi: @mitaliperkins I sooooo wish I had chosen a shorter username than @inkyelbows. Easier to retweet.
#kidlitchat
8:55 pm bonnieadamson: I’ve had people take me seriously when I was joking–humor has to be pretty broad to translate well in a tweet, I think. #kidlitchat
8:55 pm EgmontGal: @amyknichols it’s a blog . can someone give us the shrinking violets url or link? #kidlitchat
8:55 pm CherylRainfield: Yes, LOVE ShrinkingViolets! So reassuring to find other introvert authors who have to promote #kidlitchat
8:55 pm AuthorTaraKelly: @KateMessner GIANNA Z. rocks. You’ve got such an amazing voice. #kidlitchat
8:55 pm ChristineTB: @KateMessner I agree – sometimes shy authors should enlist their more boisterous pals to get the word out. #kidlitchat
8:56 pm amberlough: We’re slowing down here… #kidlitchat
8:56 pm WriterRoss: @rillajaggia Snooze someone? What does that mean? #kidlitchat
8:56 pm amyknichols: @EgmontGal Oh a blog. OK. I’ll google it and see if it comes up. Thanks. #kidlitchat
8:56 pm mgbuehrlen: I don’t think you HAVE to know how to promote yourself as an author. Pubs can help, yes? But if you know how, why not join in? #kidlitchat
8:56 pm ChristineTB: http://shrinkingvioletpromotions.blogspot.com/ #kidlitchat
8:56 pm edithcohn: @mgbuehrlen Totally. I think there’s some romance pub company where you can literally pay to star urself. People like to be star #kidlitchat
8:56 pm CREvers: I’m signing off folks, I hope to finish Sacred Scars by Kathleen Duey tonight. Thnx for the great chat! #kidlitchat
8:56 pm EgmontUSA: http://shrinkingvioletpromotions.blogspot.com/ #kidlitchat
8:56 pm debbieohi: I’ve found Twitter easier to keep up with than blogs. Because of the forced brevity, it’s easier to get to the meat of info. #kidlitchat
8:56 pm rillajaggia: @EgmontGal http://shrinkingvioletpromotions.blogspot.com/ #kidlitchat
8:56 pm Idaho_Laurie: @KateMessner I know, Kate. And as a reader, writer, booklover, I feel a responsibility to help promote those books. #kidlitchat
8:56 pm sarahshum: @EgmontGal writing is the priority, certainly. I’m not buying based on the ability to self-promote (but it’s a big bonus) #kidlitchat
8:56 pm srjohannes: EVRY Mon I intrview ed, authors, agents, illustrs, publicist & salesreps @ mrkt best practices.thy offer grt advic 4 all authors #kidlitchat
8:56 pm aecbks: RT @EgmontUSA: http://shrinkingvioletpromotions.blogspot.com/ #kidlitchat
8:57 pm swdillard: @AuthorTaraKelly absolutely agree about Gianna Z.– everything about it is so real! #kidlitchat
8:57 pm joycelansky: @CREvers My classes are reading Indian in Cupboard & Savvy. I will assign book trailer projects at end of units. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm michellewitte: @mgbuehrlen Now more than ever, pubs are putting publicity in author’s laps. It’s a growing trend. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm rillajaggia: @WriterRoss You can pause their tweets without unfollowing and choose for how long. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm amberlough: I really, truly believe (hope?) that if a book is smart enuf, it won’t matter if you self-promote or not. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm srjohannes: mashable.com offers great social networking advice on their blog every day #kidlitchat
8:57 pm amyknichols: @EgmontUSA You’re faster than my googling abilities.
Thanks! #kidlitchat
8:57 pm DDHearn: @bonnieadamson That’s a good point about humor. Some people don’t get it, and can take it the wrong way. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm EgmontGal: @sarahshum yes, it’s a bonus if you know how to self promote, for sure! But it won’t save a mediocre book, as we both know #kidlitchat
8:57 pm mgbuehrlen: I made a website for my friend’s book b/c he didn’t know how. I liked helping him, his book is wonderful! everyminuteonearth.com #kidlitchat
8:57 pm catesfolly: RT @ChristineTB: @KateMessner I agree – sometimes shy authors should enlist their more boisterous pals to get the word out. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm michellewitte: @amberlough But someone has to get the word out or it’ll never be read. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm CherylRainfield: Good! RT @sarahshum @EgmontGal writing is the priority. Im not buying based on the ability to self-promote (but its a big bonus) #kidlitchat
8:58 pm lynnekelly: Here’s the blog address for @shrinkingviolets: http://shrinkingvioletpromotions.blogspot.com/ #kidlitchat
8:58 pm MyraMcEntire: @srjohannes Mashable is amazing. And I don’t hate looking at the dude’s profile pic either. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm debbieohi: @DDHearn Yes, it was funny and horrifying at the same time. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm sarahshum: @EgmontGal TRUTH #kidlitchat
8:58 pm HeleneBoudreau: @amberlough Not sure that’s true anymore. Surely someone needs to be steering the publicity ship? #kidlitchat
8:58 pm mitaliperkins: @gregpincus @bonnieadamson Thanks for hosting. Chat tomorrow same time @readergirlz with Kristin Cashore (GRACELING). #kidlitchat
8:58 pm EgmontGal: @michellewitte well if we publish a book, we bloody well are going to work on getting the word out! We want it to sell #kidlitchat
8:58 pm rillajaggia: @WriterRoss Did that make sense. When the time is up, their tweets will appear in your stream again. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm SaraLewisHolmes: @ChristineTB Jama Rattigan at Alphabet Soup is amazing in how she celebrates books–quiet or not–for other authors.@KateMessner #kidlitchat
8:58 pm srjohannes: BTW i’m not tryng 2 push my blog just tryng 2 give back to this community since its my backgrnd hope that is coming across rite. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm PattyJMurphy: @srjohannes: Where can see there interviews? On your blog? Sounds like they would be great resources for writers:) #kidlitchat
8:58 pm MyraMcEntire: @DDHearn Agreed on humor. It’s so subjective; I worry people will think I’m being snarky when I’m not. #kidlitchat
8:59 pm jlpowers: @EgmontGal Thank goodness! #kidlitchat
8:59 pm dlschubert: @bonnieadamson Thank goodness for smiley faces.;-) Otherwise, sometimes people don’t get your joking. #kidlitchat
8:59 pm mgbuehrlen: @edithcohn I had an old flame think he was a character, puhleeze! You’re so vain, you prob. think this book is about you! LOL #kidlitchat
8:59 pm KrisYankee: First write the best book possible and then do everything you can to promote it without being a pain in the you know what. #kidlitchat
8:59 pm amberlough: @michellewitte Yes, but I meant the writer shouldn’t *have* to self-promote. #kidlitchat
8:59 pm HeleneBoudreau: esp if you’re not frontlist, it bodes well for the author to take the wheel to a degree? #kidlitchat
8:59 pm onbeyondwords: @bwileyjax would that were true – especially today. Some not great books sell wildly – many great books languish in obscurity #kidlitchat
8:59 pm bonnieadamson: @srjohannes We love your blog, Shelli–and RT often! #kidlitchat
8:59 pm ChristineTB: @SaraLewisHolmes Thanks – will have to check that out. I have a friend on several awards list but is shy and hates to market. #kidlitchat
8:59 pm mgbuehrlen: @michellewitte Yes, I’ve seen that recently. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm DDHearn: RT @ChristineTB: http://shrinkingvioletpromotions.blogspot.com/ #kidlitchat
9:00 pm twicker_net: Aktuelle #Themen bei #Twitter: 1. #bb11 2. #wetter 3. #racefinger 4. #piraten 5. #kidlitchat http://twicker.net 04:00h
9:00 pm debbieohi: @srjohannes Your blog is a great resource for writers! Market My Words http://bit.ly/8ybkD #kidlitchat
9:00 pm MyraMcEntire: @mgbuehrlen You should’ve said – no, you’re the ugly one. That breathes fire. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm srjohannes: @PattyJMurphy www.faeriality.blogspot.com (market my words). I interviewed my agent(Alyssa Henkin) 2day & she had great advice! #kidlitchat
9:00 pm michellewitte: @EgmontGal That’s very true, but publicity budgets are shrinking. Some books don’t get nearly the $$ as others. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm dlschubert: @dlschubert Or “You’re” joking, depending on if you want to be grammatically correct.;-)))) #kidlitchat
9:00 pm CherylRainfield: This was fun! Thank you, everyone.
#kidlitchat
9:00 pm Shelltex: THanks for Shrinking Violets blog. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm EgmontGal: @mgbuehrlen honey, we all think it’s about us! But finding ourselves fascinating may actually work for children’s writers #kidlitchat
9:00 pm peg366: #kidlitchat Don’t have a book out yet, but I’m reading the articles and talking to others about marketing. It seems like a wise choice.
9:00 pm aecbks: RT @debbieohi: @srjohannes Your blog is a great resource for writers! Market My Words http://bit.ly/8ybkD #kidlitchat
9:00 pm hatbooks: Thanks for the chat everyone! Looking forward to the transcript. Time to write now…Tokyo time. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm DDHearn: I read an article today by an editor who said not all books are intended to be promoted. They are kind of “filler books”. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm michellewitte: @amberlough They don’t have to, but self-promotion is in their own best interest. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm PattyJMurphy: @MyraMcEntire: What’s wrong with being snarky? I have my own def, but what’s yours? #kidlitchat
9:00 pm KateMessner: To me, the best self-promotion isn’t shouting about your book; it’s just being a helpful human being online. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm amberlough: @HeleneBoudreau Believe me, i’ll do my best to steer my publicity ship. Just wish it weren’t that way. #kidlitchat
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