Kidlitchat Transcript – November 10 (part 2)
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| 8:36 pm | MargoWest: | @nandinibajpai Haha and I’m American. But really, why ARE those books still compelling… #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | _rachelsimon: | @sarahshum Bye, good luck with your new droid…I mean phone!! #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | EgmontGal: | @nandinibajpai Dare I say–Enid Blyton characters are pretty darn cliched when we look at them now, right? all formula, no? #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | sharifwrites: | @mgbuehrlen Yes. And I find the most awesome books being snobby.  #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | mikalroy: | @MargoWest I say Harry is tremendously interesting & Frodo is interesting b/c he is a lynchpin, and there R attendant stresses. #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | kcclyburn: | @EgmontGal Wht exactly makes a character “plucky”? Is that the same as “quirky” or “edgy”? All the words that end in ‘y’ confuse #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | LadyHawkins: | @KayCassidy Aw, thanks, Kay!! As is Jess! In fact, I think Jess and Sophie should hang out some time. LOTS to talk about!  #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | KayCassidy: | @andreacremer LOVE Snape!! #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | happybluejess: | Mine too. RT @AuthorTaraKelly They’re..sorry. My spelling is atrocious tonight. #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | DDHearn: | @Buffyandrews I have been struck by the formula of the gal having two men in love with her. I guess that’s real fantasy! #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | _rachelsimon: | @camoulton Not going to lie. I was upset when Voldemort died. I wanted HP to. #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | debbieohi: | @bonnieadamson Yes! I confess I did like it (I’m a Budge Wilson fan) though my AoGG fanatic friend was horrified at the idea. #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | maggiedana: | @thedreamereader Socks w/sandals is a flaw? #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | cindypon: | @thedreamereader hahaha! #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | MargoWest: | @mikalroy Just curious, why would you say Harry is interesting? To me he seemed nice but v. v. average #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | kellybarnhill: | @thedreamereader Ha! I used to teach in a very rough Middle School. Those kids taught me cuss words I’d never heard before. #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | andreacremer: | Yes! @Travis_Pearson Sometimes “villains” are just in the eye of the MC though. I like those. although I can’t think of any ATM. #kidlitchat |
| 8:36 pm | chavelaque: | I have a soft place in my heart for dumb characters — a char in one of my novels misspells things, and that endears him to me. #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | leewind: | #kidlitchat – thanks everyone for getting my point. Something’s happened & the M.C. is different – Outside the norm. that makes it a story |
| 8:37 pm | CynthiaCWillis: | @thedreamereader Oh! Wearing socks with sandals is a great example! ICK! #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | sarahockler: | @marybrebner @EgmontGal Not 2 perfect boys in love with her. 2 boys she *perceives* as perfect. #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | debbieohi: | @EgmontGal Enid Blyton characters are very cliched. But I adored those books when I was little! I suspect kids today wouldn’t. #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | EgmontGal: | @kaycassidy Books can get bad reviews from adults and parents because characters don’t make choices parents think “correct” #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | adamselzer: | interesting thing in the AoGG books: Anne&Gil are conservatives, but it seems like liberals get to make all the political points #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | mgbuehrlen: | @sharifwrites Me too. Let’s continue to be book snobs. #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | KrisYankee: | Me too! RT @KayCassidy: @andreacremer LOVE Snape!! #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | Travis_Pearson: | I love “morally gray” characters. Joss Whedon is a master of this. #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @mikalroy Do you think that is true of historical fiction/fantasy too? Resonating with modern readership? #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | maggiedana: | Me too. Had him figured for a good guy, all along (and I’m usually cluesless about this). RT @KayCassidy LOVE Snape!! #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | bonnieadamson: | My brain is not attached to my fingers tonight.  “scene” #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | sarahjanestudio: | @AudryT RT Trick 4 fleshing out characrs: Make them someone u r totally unfamiliar with, and force yourself outside ur safe zone #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | EgmontGal: | @maggiedana Socks with sandals is a dealbreaker, ladies. #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | KayCassidy: | @LadyHawkins So funny you should say that because I’m emailing re: that now. #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | KateMessner: | Imperfect characters I love- Blake in FLASH BURNOUT, Samara & her family in ONCE WAS LOST, Jason & mom in ANYTHING BUT TYPICAL #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | jrroper: | For YA I think the character has to be a risk-taker. Maybe not as far as loving a vampire and a werewolf. #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | _rachelsimon: | @LadyHawkins @KayCassidy You should have your girls do an interview together & post it on your blogs!! #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | bonnieadamson: | @debbieohi No, I’m a purist: only through Anne of Ingleside. #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | cindypon: | @sarahockler i LOVE complicated gray characters! #kidlitchat |
| 8:37 pm | AngelaButts: | @_rachelsimon Harry did die. But Rowling couldn’t make up her mind… so then he came back to life. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | JessicaCapelle: | yes! RT @andreacremer: I love chars like Snape. Am I good am I evil? The mystery of a character developing makes for greatness! #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | catesfolly: | @KayCassidy Snape best character in all of HP IMHO. And one of best in all of literature (and I’m not a huge HP fan) #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | JennBailey: | Do you think the MC needs to be somewhat average to hold down the quirkier supporting cast? Seinfeld? Andy Griffith? #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | mgbuehrlen: | @MargoWest True, Harry is *just Harry* but that makes it easier for us to slip into his place, no? #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | thedreamereader: | @maggiedana Well, it’s better than nothing! LOL #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | andreacremer: | LOL that’s pretty hardcore! @_rachelsimon @camoulton Not going to lie. I was upset when Voldemort died. I wanted HP to. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | LJBoldyrev: | He dies!!! Eek! #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | maggiedana: | Cut my teeth on Enid, I did. RT @debbieohi: Enid Blyton characters are very cliched. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | ChristineTB: | RT @Travis_Pearson: I love “morally gray” characters. Joss Whedon is a master of this. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | DDHearn: | What do you think about the idea of a tragic villain. A villain you can sympathize with even though you don’t like what he does? #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | _rachelsimon: | @AngelaButts I know he “died” but I wanted him to DIE. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | kcclyburn: | Let’s be honest; how “realistic” is it that two guys both fall for the same girl and then fight over that girl? Seriously. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | EgmontGal: | @kcclyburn Quirky = eccentric Edgy = cutting edge, boundary pushing YA Plucky = Newbery winner #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | @Travis_Pearson Totally agree! #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | catesfolly: | @jrroper How about willing to break the rules a little too? For YA? #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | AudryT: | I don’t tend to label characters as “villains.” Antagonist is more fitting, and leaves room for complexity. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | mikalroy: | @MargoWest His parents were murdered. He’s struggling against his unearned (?) fame. He’s an egomaniac. He’s a rich character. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | KayCassidy: | @RebeccAgent LOL. Polly is so charming! She like a miniature, fictional Lindsay. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | maggiedana: | <– removing socks as we speak. RT @EgmontGal: @maggiedana Socks with sandals is a dealbreaker, ladies. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @sarahockler True. Edward is SERIOUSLY flawed. Some might say clinically insane. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | marjorielight: | Sometimes in my class students create fake “bad dialog” for books. We pretend we’re my grandma/dad writing YA #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | JessicaCapelle: | @Travis_Pearson true- often it’s just people keeping MC from doing what he/she wants even if for good #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | debbieohi: | Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the word “plucky” used so often in a chat.  #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | carolgrannick: | @chavelaque Which novel are you referencing with misspelling char? #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | jrroper: | Okay maybe just a vampire or a werewolf, not both #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | chavelaque: | @mikalroy @margowest HP1 is mostly about setting up world & backstory, and he’s something of an empty vessel for that. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | ChristineTB: | RT @EgmontGal: @maggiedana Socks with sandals is a dealbreaker, ladies. (Amen Get ya bullied in my hood) #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | andreacremer: | Ahhhh! Yes Joss rules all! RT @Travis_Pearson I love “morally gray” characters. Joss Whedon is a master of this. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | rillajaggia: | @omgjulia Brilliant! Thanks. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @PattyJMurphy Agreed. We all know what it feels like to be left out. #kidlitchat |
| 8:38 pm | nandinibajpai: | @EgmontGal Oh yeah! Loved them as a 10 year old. Reads completely different as an adult … #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | DDHearn: | @sarahockler I don’t know. I thought that Rowling painted Voldemort choosing evil path even as a kid. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | KayCassidy: | @_rachelsimon Shhhh… #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | elanaroth: | I have a soft spot for just-left-of-likeable main characters. I like complications and idiosyncrasies. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | sarahockler: | @EgmontGal Yes! Some adults 4get what it’s like to be starry-eyed teen & so call certain dynamics/emotions/choices unrealistic. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | camoulton: | @mgbuehrlen Yes! An idle character is NOT compelling and doesn’t make you want to root for them. Many ppl root for the underdog. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | MargoWest: | @DDHearn What’s not to like?! Depth is always better, and it adds to the conflict #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | EgmontGal: | @JennBailey I think they always surround Tom Cruise with excellent character actors. Take a look and you’ll see. It works #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | KrisYankee: | Need to let my brain chill. Will catch up with the transcript 2morrow. Thanks for the lovely and insightful chat! #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | chavelaque: | @margowest but he gets much more interesting and spiky as he goes along, as he realizes how much wrong has been done him #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | bookmom2000: | @rillajaggia Sorry, Blue Oyster Cult, not Moody Blues. http://bit.ly/fohAO Now you won’t miss out on more cowbell. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | I prefer it when characters, includ the MC, are slowly revealed..don’t tell me everything the first chapter. Surprise me. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | marybrebner: | What about the MC who’s actually a villain–like Artemis Fowl? Love him. Or Pinky and the Brain? (LOL @jamieharrington!) #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | catesfolly: | @mgbuehrlen Harry’s dullness makes me want more of Ron and Hermione, not to slip into his character. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | dawnmetcalf: | Well said! – RT @AudryT I don’t tend to label characters as “villains.” Antagonist is more fitting & leaves room for complexity. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | AngelaButts: | @_rachelsimon I wanted everyone but Snape to die by the end. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | sharifwrites: | RT @jrroper: For YA I think the character has to be a risk-taker. Maybe not as far as loving a vampire and a werewolf. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | andreacremer: | My favorite kind (to read and write) RT @DDHearn What do you think about the idea of a tragic villain. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | mikalroy: | @MargoWest It’s hard 2 see him clearly, b/c he is the center of the books and allowed less quirk than secondary chars. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | DDHearn: | @camoulton I suppose if the book has a male mc he will probably have two girls fawning over him. Just part of reliable formula. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | kcclyburn: | RT @AudryT: I dont tend to label characters as “villains.” Antagonist is more fitting, and leaves room for complexity. #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | leewind: | @LadyHawkins I agree. dud character can make even the most exciting plot moment a “who cares?” #kidlitchat |
| 8:39 pm | _rachelsimon: | @KrisYankee Bye, have a good evening! #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | bonnieadamson: | @JennBailey Mary Tyler Moore . . .. #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | thedreamereader: | @kellybarnhill Same here (w/ the cuss words). You wouldnt believe how PERVERTED MG boys are today (not that the girls r better) #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | EgmontGal: | @kcclyburn may not be realistic that two guys fight over same girl, but it has worked time and time again. Since shakespeare #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | Willow as a bad arse witch was the hottest thing ever. Yep. #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | MargoWest: | *tear tear* My poor Enid. I found Alicia and her friend rather interesting/different, actually, especially for the time #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | maggiedana: | One has to wonder (shudder at, in fact) if plucky teens grow into feisty seniors. #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | chavelaque: | @margowest and his own power to right wrongs & save places/people he loves. I love his “saving-people-thing” in Book 5. #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | ChristineTB: | @EgmontGal Not since Tom “jumped” on Oprah’s couch. Now he’s getting to be passe #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | JennBailey: | LOL RT @EgmontGal:I think they always surround Tom Cruise with excellent character actors. Take a look and youll see. It works #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | mikalroy: | @chavelaque Agreed, but even as an empty vessel, he’s aswirl w/ frustrated emotion. And we ID with that. #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | PattyJMurphy: | Me, too! @chavelaque I have a soft place in my heart for dumb characters <<We can all relate bc we all have imperfections:) #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | camoulton: | @_rachelsimon Me too! I’d rather have Voldie die than see the error of his ways though. HATE when that happens! #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | debbieohi: | @maggiedana Had a weakness for magical stories abt 4 British kids (2 girls, 2 boys). And wanted scones b4 I knew what they were. #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | jrroper: | @catesfolly Breaking the rules is always good for YA and Middle Grade. Deep down they all want to a little. #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | andreacremer: | Tempted to write “pluckily” now RT @debbieohi Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the word “plucky” used so often in a chat. #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | littlefluffycat: | @DDHearn I think that means you’ve made a real person – which is what we’re supposed to do. #kidlitchat |
| 8:40 pm | rillajaggia: | @bookmom2000 Thanks! Will watch when chat is done. I can see I need more cowbell already. #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | maggiedana: | Ron’s a great char. RT @catesfolly: Harrys dullness makes me want more of Ron and Hermione, not to slip into his character. #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | chavelaque: | @carolgrannick It’s a book that’s not out yet, called THE LAST SUMMER OF THE DEATH WARRIORS. Only book where I’m proud of typos! #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | DDHearn: | @kellybarnhill I agree. Wee Free Men and the next two in the series are wonderful! #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | JessicaCapelle: | yes- Joss is great RT @ChristineTB: RT @Travis_Pearson: I love “morally gray” characters. Joss Whedon is a master of this. #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | catesfolly: | Hah! Me too! RT @AngelaButts: @_rachelsimon I wanted everyone but Snape to die by the end. #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | cindypon: | @AudryT if u do it right, antagonist much more appropriate yes! #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | andreacremer: | Amen, sister! are you reading Season 8? RT @AuthorTaraKelly Willow as a bad arse witch was the hottest thing ever. Yep. #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | MargoWest: | @chavelaque I can see what you’re saying, he does develop quite a bit. It just seems very based on events/expectations #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | debbieohi: | @andreacremer HA. Me too. (she typed pluckily) #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | mikalroy: | @dawnmetcalf For me, resonance has to do with tone & diction & style & if you can give that a modern-enough spin, rest is fine. #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | ChristineTB: | My hubby refers to the books as “Hermione Granger” and that “other” guy ..lol! (don’t kill me Cheryl!) #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | Buffyandrews: | Do you find that there are certain ages you can immediately become and go there in your mind. What does this say about us? #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | EgmontGal: | @LeeWind If I may be so bold, much MG and YA writing is about feeling different. But gay fiction in particular strong in this? #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | mgbuehrlen: | @catesfolly By slip, I mean slip into the world. Harry is a portal. #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | kristinlgray: | RT @AuthorTaraKelly I prefer it when characters, includ the MC, are slowly revealed. Surprise me. // Agree #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | debbieohi: | @rillajaggia I drew a cowbell cartoon during that one chat. Will have to send it to you. #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | RebeccAgent: | If it isn’t already clear, I love a great ensemble cast- glee, buffy, breakfast club, Harry P., Hunger Games… #kidlitchat |
| 8:41 pm | JessicaCapelle: | oooh- the formula!! lol RT @EgmontGal: Quirky = eccentric Edgy = cutting edge, boundary pushing YA Plucky = Newbery winner #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | EKokie: | But the risk can be small as long as it is big for the character @sharifwrites @jrroper For YA character has to be a risk-taker #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | rillajaggia: | @mikalroy “Aswirl with frustrated emotion”….What every great character must be! #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | JennBailey: | I must admit to having a great deal of fun with the supporting cast. The MC has such a burden, carrying that whole story and all #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | kcclyburn: | I like FMCs in YA act like the hormonal teenagers they are, rather than virginal angels. You don’t see that a lot though. #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @marybrebner Love Pinky & The Brain! Lex Luthor? Snape? Cadel Piggott? Artemis Fowl? Renegade X? Lots to choose from! #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | catesfolly: | Holly Black’s immortal-loving girl MCs livelier than Bella, much, I thought. #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @Joyce_Lansky Sirius STAYED a villain to the wizarding world. Did they ever find out he was innocent? Of course, WE know better. #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | maggiedana: | One cream tea coming up. Hold out plate, pls. RT @debbieohi: And wanted scones b4 I knew what they were. #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | gregpincus: | @chavelaque That musta been quite a chore to get through copyediting! #intentionaltypos #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | adamselzer: | Harry was just Harry, but Oliver Twist was barely even Oliver. The world around them makes them work. #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | lyonmartin: | totally. RT @AuthorTaraKelly: Willow as a bad arse witch was the hottest thing ever. Yep. #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | RebeccAgent: | even if some of the characters could be whittled down to stereotypes, they rise above #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | f_rancesca: | @debbieohi I still long for elevenses and spent childhood thinking Grand Central was probably really Paddington Station. #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | MargoWest: | @mikalroy I think that’s true about not seeing him clearly, but that still leaves Harry unquirked and normal #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | Buffyandrews: | @catesfolly I pitied Snape b/c he loved someone he could never have. Sad, no? #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | catesfolly: | LOVE! RT @ChristineTB: My hubby refers to the books as “Hermione Granger” and that “other” guy ..lol! (dont kill me Cheryl!) #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | leewind: | @catesfolly I agree. A blank slate is had to identify with. People often write unspecific to be universal. Doesn’t work. #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | debbieohi: | @rillajaggia Found it. Here’s my #kidlitchat cowbell comic: http://twitpic.com/jo53m #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | andreacremer: | So true, it’s an old tale, not new RT @EgmontGal …two guys fight over same girl, but it has worked… Since shakespeare #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | rillajaggia: | @debbieohi Love to see the cartoon! Send it alon. #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | kcclyburn: | My girlfriend actually called my MC in the #NaNoWriMo I wrote last year a whore. I was pretty broken up about that :- … #kidlitchat |
| 8:42 pm | KatherineBoG: | @chavelaque OMG That book’s amaaazing. Can’t wait to sell next year. #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | kellybarnhill: | @Travis_Pearson Except not according to the author. She thought he was the perfect man. Again with the insane. #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | JessicaCapelle: | @debbieohi somehow I now fear plucky will end up in my writing tonight! #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | debbieohi: | @f_rancesca LOL! #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | JenniferSkyBand: | RT @JenniferSkyBand: Hi gang, my first time chatting in real time, question; where do u think memoirs for teens are headed? #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | mikalroy: | and on that note, I am going to retire. Got some Wodehouse to read and sleep to seek. Good night, all! #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | camoulton: | @kcclyburn I see lots of drunk frat guys who want to bang the same girl and end up fighting over her. Many many times! #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | EgmontGal: | Changing my SCBWI talk to More Cowbell, less pluck: What Children’s and YA fiction needs. #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | kellybarnhill: | @debbieohi The word “plucky” always makes me think of chickens. #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @JessicaCapelle @ChristineTB @Travis_Pearson: Joss Whedon is a master of morally complex yet identifiable characters, IMO. #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | dlschubert: | @RebeccAgent Approx. how many characters do you like to see? #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | JennBailey: | RT @debbieohi: @rillajaggia Found it. Heres my #kidlitchat cowbell comic: http://twitpic.com/jo53m #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | DDHearn: | @andreacremer Yes, Snape was much more interesting to me than Voldemort. More human and less predictable. #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | MargoWest: | @mgbuehrlen Definitely agree about it making it easier for us. My point was that he’s not interesting himself yet his story is #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | Travis_Pearson: | Another show with great character Development is Supernatural. Watching season one is like seeing completely different chars. #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | gregpincus: | @RebeccAgent Yet an ensemble must be full of strong characters, yes? #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | AudryT: | You know, if I see one more MCWGSPAHGATOEC in YA, I think I will scream. #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | cindypon: | @DDHearn @kellybarnhill thats this months book selection at enchanted inkpot Group! ive not read it tho? #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | catesfolly: | @Buffyandrews Snape for sure tragic but I was more fascinated than pitying. And I confess I love Alan Rickman so this colors it. #kidlitchat |
| 8:43 pm | EgmontGal: | @Buffyandrews I know! I love Snape, too. I was shocked about Scabbers, though. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | kcclyburn: | @camoulton That’s frat guys though. Who are drunk. Totally different. Mostly. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | happybluejess: | @debbieohi Funny, me too about the Brit thing. As a kid, loved fish and chips wrapped in newspaper. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | I prefer it when girls fight…instead of guys. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | debbieohi: | @maggiedana Yes! My mouth always watered, reading about the British tea tradition. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | mgbuehrlen: | RT @EgmontGal: Changing my SCBWI talk to More Cowbell, less pluck: What Childrens and YA fiction needs. << Ha! #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | _rachelsimon: | @EgmontGal LOL I am dying over here! re: SCBWI talk name change (more cowbell, less pluck) #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | _rachelsimon: | @mikalroy Bye! Have a good night! #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | MargoWest: | @mikalroy What would be boring then? Just curious #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @kellybarnhill It always makes me think of Daffy Duck’s revamped childhood in Animaniacs… #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | rillajaggia: | @debbieohi Sweet! #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | CynthiaCWillis: | @EgmontGal This talk I absolutely must hear. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | debbieohi: | @maggiedana And I’d feel ripped off if a tea was mentioned, but no details (I wanted to KNOW what they ate!). #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | dlschubert: | @EgmontGal Perfect!! #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | sharifwrites: | @EKokie Yes, in a teenager’s world,something small to us is very big to them, and well-plotted is a great read. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | maggiedana: | @EgmontGal Pls. post a transcript of cowbell talk. I’d love to read it. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | ChristineTB: | @dawnmetcalf Exactly (although I don’t like Whedon’s doll house and wish he’d give up his “love” of all things “Faith.”) #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | f_rancesca: | RT @kellybarnhill: @debbieohi The word “plucky” always makes me think of chickens. > Yes! Thus image in my head of farm girl. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | @Travis_Pearson I LOVE supernatural. Dean *swoon* Dean’s car *triple swoon* #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | kellybarnhill: | @cindypon Ooooh! You’ll love it! #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | chavelaque: | @KatherineBOG So glad to hear you like it! Finn in #Glee is another darling fool. #kidlitchat |
| 8:44 pm | LadyHawkins: | @EgmontGal Mayhaps “plucky” is to YA what “feisty” is to romance novels? #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | camoulton: | I think it’s important for female protags in YA to want to explore their sexuality but also value their virginity & not obsess. #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | maggiedana: | The English really CAN cook, despite rumors. RT @debbieohi: My mouth always watered, reading about the British tea tradition. #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | andreacremer: | So sad! RT @Buffyandrews @catesfolly I pitied Snape b/c he loved someone he could never have. Sad, no? #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @kellybarnhill Yup. Maybe Meyer gets off on being stalked? lol #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | debbieohi: | @happybluejess Food scenes were always very important to me as a young reader. And, um, as a grown-up reader as well. #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | MargoWest: | @AuthorTaraKelly Haha may I introduce you to Gossip Girls #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | mgbuehrlen: | @MargoWest Oh no, I agree, totally. Every other character is way more intriguing. #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | bonnieadamson: | @debbieohi Slurping along to chat now. #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | SarahBWinters: | I am so going to write a cowbell into one of my stories, every time I make it to #kidlitchat ?More Cowbell? comes up. LOL |
| 8:45 pm | rillajaggia: | Ditto RT @maggiedana: @EgmontGal Pls. post a transcript of cowbell talk. Id love to read it. #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | LJBoldyrev: | @Travis_Pearson I was just thinking about how much Sam and Dean had changed since season 1. I started re-watching with episode 1 #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | andreacremer: | just started watching SN love it RT @AuthorTaraKelly @Travis_Pearson I LOVE supernatural. Dean *swoon* Dean’s car *triple swoon* #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @AuthorTaraKelly I completely agree. =D #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | ChristineTB: | RT @Travis_Pearson: @kellybarnhill Yup. Maybe Meyer gets off on being stalked? lol #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | LiaKeyes: | Happy to hear all the Brit love tonight! Time for me to return to NaNoWriMo… till next week! #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | f_rancesca: | RT @LadyHawkins: @EgmontGal Mayhaps “plucky” is to YA what “feisty” is to romance novels? > ooh, so true. #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | EgmontGal: | @adamselzer Thx Esther in Bleak House one of my fave characters, I’d a lit prof who hated her. She is complex, some say dumb. #kidlitchat |
| 8:45 pm | LadyHawkins: | @AuthorTaraKelly Hee! I went for both in the Hex Hall series. Book 1=2 girls, 1 guy. Book 2=2 guys, 1 girl. Love it all! #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | JessicaCapelle: | @Buffyandrews I have an easier time with 17/18 because I tutor them. I can just channel them if I need to #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | fullofstars: | RT @ChristineTB: My hubby refers to the books as “Hermione Granger” and that “other” guy ..lol! (don’t kill me Cheryl!) #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | camoulton: | @kcclyburn Mostly… It was the only example I could think of #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | kellybarnhill: | #kidlitchat I am totally gonna use the word plucky in my writing session tonight, and it is all y’all’s fault! |
| 8:46 pm | EgmontGal: | @rillajaggia @maggiedana I only speak from rough notes! We need someone to blog. Thanks, though. Or invite me to where u r #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | chavelaque: | @Camoulton Why do you think it’s important for girl MCs to value their virginity? Not disagreeing (or agreeing), just curious. #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | _rachelsimon: | RT @camoulton I think its important for YA female protags 2 want2 explore their sexuality but value their virginity & not obsess #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | f_rancesca: | RT @rillajaggia Ditto RT @maggiedana: @EgmontGal Pls. post a transcript of cowbell talk. Id love to read it. > Tritto (ditto +1) #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | debbieohi: | At the risk of sounding like I’m sucking up to @chavelaque, Millicent Minn is one of my favourite kids’ book characters. #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | rillajaggia: | @debbieohi Food was VERY important to me as a kid. Enid Blyton always had loads of chocolate. I love to put food into my books #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | andreacremer: | Snarf! RT @f_rancesca @LadyHawkins: @EgmontGal Mayhaps “plucky” is to YA what “feisty” is to romance novels? > ooh, so true. #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | storyexperiment: | Me too! Originals only! RT @mgbuehrlen: I like characters I’ve never met before. No cookie cutters. #kidlitchat |
| 8:46 pm | catesfolly: | Or is that edgy? RT @f_rancesca: RT @LadyHawkins: @EgmontGal Mayhaps “plucky” is to YA what “feisty” is to romance novels? #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | leewind: | @EgmontGal Be Bold! I think most “identity” stories are @ M.C.’s difference. Gay Coming Out stories especially. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | PattyJMurphy: | @mikalroy: Thanks for stopping by. Your insights are invaluable:) #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @ChristineTB Okay, me too. But Dr. Horrible made up for it. Looking forward to 4! #drhorrible #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | MargoWest: | RT@LadyHawkins: @EgmontGal Mayhaps “plucky” is to YA what “feisty is to romance novels? > QFT #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | EgmontGal: | I love Utah SCBWI but they gave me speech title: Pitfalls on road to publication. Not as fun as mine I think. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | kellybarnhill: | @catesfolly Oh, lord, Holly Black wipes the floor with Ms. Meyers. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | kcclyburn: | @camoulton I agree. I’d like to see more MMC’s take their virginity seriously too. Just seems like it’s either one or the other. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | omgjulia: | @EdgmontGal @leewind, I think gay YA is not necessarily more about outsiders than other YA, just often more focused on LGBTness. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | DDHearn: | @maggiedana I was hoping Snape was ultimately going to come out on the side of good. His death saddened me a lot. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @LJBoldyrev Sam and Dean are COMPLETELY different people now. For better and worse. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | dawnmetcalf: | RT @rillajaggia Ditto RT @maggiedana: @EgmontGal Pls. post a transcript of cowbell talk. Id love to read it. > Tritto (ditto +1) #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | adamselzer: | @EgmontGal I’ll discuss Esther all night if you want – fascinating character. I know most people think she’s icky, though. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | EgmontGal: | @rillajaggia True! Tons of food in Blyton though I didn’t know what much of it was. Pemican? #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | rillajaggia: | @EgmontGal We would love to have you come out to SCBWI LA. Let’s talk. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | debbieohi: | @rillajaggia I look forward to reading your food scenes, then. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | mgbuehrlen: | @f_rancesca Tritto?! That, my friend, is my new favorite twitter word. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | sharifwrites: | @debbieohi Mine, too. I read that book twice. I’m sure I’ll read it again. #kidlitchat |
| 8:47 pm | catesfolly: | @kellybarnhill oh jeez well said. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | JessicaCapelle: | awesome!! RT @debbieohi: Here’s my #kidlitchat cowbell comic: http://twitpic.com/jo53m #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | LadyHawkins: | RT @camoulton: I think it’s important for females in YA 2 want 2 explore their sexuality but value their virginity ¬ obsess. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | scott_tracey: | @AuthorTaraKelly Dean and Dean’s car fall short next to Castiel. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | EgmontGal: | @MargoWest Plucky is to Mid Grade what Disillusioned is to detective fiction #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | marjorielight: | My students LOVE MC’s that are bad…the ones that DO what the students wish they had the nerve to do #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @chavelaque @Camoulton Perhaps because the impression is that in modern day, kids don’t? #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | MargoWest: | @camoulton What about, say, Forever by Judy Blume? Fascinating book but I wouldn’t say the MG valued her virginity #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | JennBailey: | @EgmontGal Yours is a better title. Go with it. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | maggiedana: | @rillajaggia Blyton’s chars had midnight feasts. Was wildly jealous of those. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | kellybarnhill: | @leewind Yup, it’s the Everyman trap. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | chavelaque: | @debbieohi Thanks, Debbie! Millie shows that balance Michael was talking about earlier — the saying vs. not saying, I think. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | CynthiaCWillis: | RT @DDHearn: @maggiedana I was hoping Snape was ultimately going to come out on the side of good. His death saddened me a lot. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | rillajaggia: | @EgmontGal I basically remember bars and bars of chocolate on every excursion. and now I’m a chocolate fiend. Dark. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | camoulton: | @chavelaque It’s healthier for a girl to feel her virginity is important rather than throwing it away and regretting losing it. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | MargoWest: | @EgmontGal Plucky is to MG what French is to Noir #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | LJBoldyrev: | @kcclyburn The character of Rose in the Vampire Academy does a good job balancing her sexual desires and her purity. #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | debbieohi: | @sharifwrites Did you read the sequels, too? (Stanford Wong, Emily Ebers?) #kidlitchat |
| 8:48 pm | f_rancesca: | @EgmontGal I had a prof who thought genius of CS Lewis and his ilk was in thorough descriptions of food. #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | thedreamereader: | RT @camoulton I think its important for YA female protags 2 want2 explore their sexuality but value their virginity & not obsess #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | JessicaCapelle: | was just going to say that- really complex RT @Travis_Pearson: Another show with great character Development is Supernatural. #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | maggiedana: | @EgmontGal I’m a Brit and don’t know what Pemican is. Native American, maybe? #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | DDHearn: | @mgbuehrlen Good point about Harry being more relatable because he is rather ordinary. #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | EgmontGal: | @marjorielight That is so true! Thank you for pointing it out. We love kids who dare to do what we wouldn’t #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | ChristineTB: | RT @marjorielight: My students LOVE MCs that are bad…the ones that DO what the students wish they had the nerve to do #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | @scott_tracey Castiel is a fine piece of man face. But..I’d still take the car above all of them muahah. #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | kellybarnhill: | @catesfolly Hey! Someone else on twitter who says jeez. Are you a minnesotan? #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @scott_tracey I used to hate Castiel, but he’s growing on me… #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | LJBoldyrev: | @scott_tracey Castiel has quickly become one of my favorite characters, but I’m a big Sam Winchester fan. #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | ChristineTB: | RT @JennBailey: @EgmontGal Yours is a better title. Go with it. (I second) #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | RebeccAgent: | @marjorielight I am a genius of unspeakable evil should be a HUGE success in your class then #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | sharifwrites: | @debbieohi No, but I always keep my eye out in the bookstore. I hope to pick them up some day. #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | rillajaggia: | @debbieohi Yum, Loads of Indian food and gooey gummy cookies too. #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | JessicaCapelle: | @Travis_Pearson Supernatural has some great writing and chars; it’s totally underrated #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | mgbuehrlen: | I do too! RT @marjorielight: My students LOVE MCs that are bad, the ones that DO what the students wish they had the nerve to do #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | nandinibajpai: | What a character likes to eat tells a lot about them … I don’t just mean Dudleykins #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | dlschubert: | @debbieohi Awesome cartoon!!!! #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | leewind: | @mikalroy Yes, and Frodo being a lynchpin makes him different! #kidlitchat |
| 8:49 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @adamselzer Like Queen Esther? She’s a hoot! #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | andreacremer: | @LJBoldyrev @kcclyburn The character of Rose in the Vampire Academy does a good job balancing her sexual desires and her purity. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | AudryT: | Writers are not here to “teach” girls what’s “healthy” for them. Hell, the definition of “healthy” changes every ten years. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | maggiedana: | I’d think Ron far more ordinary than Harry P. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | gregpincus: | How many of you make soundtracks for your characters? And do you play ‘em when you write/draw? #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | kcclyburn: | @camoulton Guys R quick 2 wnt 2 lose their virginity in YA, but sometimes 2 many girls think sex=icky. Need balance. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | f_rancesca: | @mgbuehrlen Hey thanks! I actually wondered if I was in fact overtired and should slope off to bed. But I like it too. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | rillajaggia: | @maggiedana Mallory Towers and Midnight Feasts. I convinced my parents I had to go to boarding school and have my own. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | CDominiqueG: | @JessicaCapelle Supernatural the topic tonight in #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | tehawesomersace: | @camoulton WHAT?! Why would you say that? #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | catesfolly: | Great MCs in Green’s LOOKING FOR ALASKA. The de facto “narrator” MC sometimes gets lost I think. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | debbieohi: | @maggiedana Love midnight feast scenes. Sara Crewe was cliched/overly sweet in A Little Princess, but I loved her feast, too! #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | RebeccAgent: | @margowest Forever is about the least sexy book ever #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | dawnmetcalf: | HAHA! RT @RebeccAgent @marjorielight I am a genius of unspeakable evil should be a HUGE success in your class then #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | sarahockler: | @camoulton What about a boy & his virginity? #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | storyexperiment: | RT @AudryT: I don’t tend to label characters as “villains.” Antagonist is more fitting, and leaves room for complexity. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | EgmontGal: | @adamselzer I know. I remember prof saying “Have you read Bleak? Esther’s an idiot.” But I LOVE her. And she is tough in her way #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | CDominiqueG: | RT @maggiedana: I’d think Ron far more ordinary than Harry P. #kidlitchat // and yet he’s my favorite character |
| 8:50 pm | adamselzer: | @dawnmetcalf No, the one from Bleak House. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | camoulton: | @dawnmetcalf A lot of the girls in my HS didn’t & many regret their first times. You might as well let the memory be a good one. #kidlitchat |
| 8:50 pm | ChristineTB: | RT @maggiedana: Id think Ron far more ordinary than Harry P. (but more loveable in this family and more identifiable.) #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | Supernatural is my modern day Buffy..it must stay! #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | nkrell: | #kidlitchat Okay, I’m jumping in here. Is there really an up and coming market for ‘Upper’ middle grade? (10-14) |
| 8:51 pm | catesfolly: | @kellybarnhill only midwestern in spirit #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | andreacremer: | @AudryT Great point #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | MargoWest: | @maggiedana But Ron has the huge family and huge chip on his shoulder. Harry is isolated, which makes it easier to “be” him #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | _rachelsimon: | Alright, guys, I’m off to work on my #WIP. I want to get 32k tonight! I had a great chat &I missed u all the 2 weeks I was away. #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | Buffyandrews: | Great characters are like great movies. You never forget them. Ever. A piece of them stays with you forever. #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | LJBoldyrev: | @JessicaCapelle I just wish Supernatural were a book series. I did find THE DIARY OF JOHN WINCHESTER. Interesting so far. #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | debbieohi: | @dlschubert Heh, thanks. I was inspired by the cowbell talk so drew the comic during the chat. #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | _rachelsimon: | Bye everyone! #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | bookmom2000: | @marjorielight I would say adults have a little of that too = liking bad MC’s that do what they wish they had nerve to do. #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | chavelaque: | @camoulton 1 -I can agree with that, if it’s an individual choice. I just flinch reflexively at having girls’ (and girls’ only) #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | camoulton: | @MargoWest I have never read this book! Must be remedied… #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | jrroper: | @majorielight So true. We all love a daredevil #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | DDHearn: | @Travis_Pearson Maybe if we were vampires that didn’t allow themselves living human blood we’d go a bit nuts too. #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | maggiedana: | @rillajaggia I gorged on Mallory Towers. I lusted after boarding school as a place where you could also take your own horse. #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | kcclyburn: | @sarahockler Too many male MC’s are too quick to want to lose it. I think a lot of the time it’s deeper than that. Was for me… #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @adamselzer Well that makes MUCH more sense! #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | thereadingzone: | Had a substitute teacher come in once, complete rage,bc she found FOREVER in classrm lbry. She threw it out…craziest thing #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | thedreamereader: | I know A LOT of girls that r giving up a lot 2 boys because they wanna be “popular” & want 2 feel pretty (and I’m pretty young!) #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | kellybarnhill: | @RebeccAgent HA! I was about to say the same thing! #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | f_rancesca: | RT @tehawesomersace: @camoulton WHAT?! Why would you say that? > Seconded. Healthy is odd choice of word here. #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | kellybarnhill: | @sarahockler That’s a good question! Does that book exist? #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | JessicaCapelle: | why I put tea scene with details in my bk! RT @debbieohi @maggiedana I’d feel ripped off if a tea was mentioned, but no details #kidlitchat |
| 8:51 pm | mgbuehrlen: | RT @sarahockler: @camoulton What about a boy & his virginity? << Should be just as valuable. #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | Travis_Pearson: | I take full responsibility. XD RT @CDominiqueG Supernatural the topic tonight in #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | andreacremer: | Always RT @gregpincus How many of you make soundtracks for your characters? And do you play ‘em when you write/draw? #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | MargoWest: | @RebeccAgent Haha definitely, but it is great! #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | @Buffyandrews Amen! #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @sarahockler @camoulton I think BOY TOY did a great job with that very topic. #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | dlschubert: | @debbieohi Amazing talent. Seriously. Wow. #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | camoulton: | @sarahockler Good question, same thing. Boys seem to be in a race to lose it. I’d love to see this angle in YA. #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | MargoWest: | @camoulton Oh wow yeah you definitely should. Oldie but goodie #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | andreacremer: | @thereadingzone That makes me very sad #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | kellybarnhill: | @catesfolly I’ll take it! #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | @thedreamereader Yep..that’s how it was when I was in hs too. #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | EgmontGal: | @jrroper Do we love daredevils? I liked teens who were bad when I was a teen, but kids who were writers/comics when I was MG #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | JessicaCapelle: | Nope- strong characters RT @CDominiqueG: Supernatural the topic tonight in #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | peg366: | night! #kidlitchat |
| 8:52 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @LJBoldyrev There are Supernatural novels out. 3 currently, and 3 more out this year. #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | RebeccAgent: | @thereadingzone OF COURSE, i don’t think the book should be censored I just think it’s funnier than it is alluring #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | PattyJMurphy: | RT @Buffyandrews Great characters = great movies. You never forget them. Ever. A piece of them stays with you forever. <SO TRUE! #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | EgmontGal: | @thedreamereader Darling, I am 49 and I still bind my feet to please my men. It’s not just a YA problem. #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | JessicaCapelle: | @LJBoldyrev yep- would be great in book form #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | chavelaque: | @camoulton 2- virginities talked about in any sort of sentimental, prescriptive, right-for-all way. #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | mgbuehrlen: | @f_rancesca Even if you are overtired, your comments are always excellent. #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | edwebb: | RT @f_rancesca: Terry Pratchett routinely creates strong yet flawed MCs & supporting cast of 1000s of individuals: love that man #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | scott_tracey: | RT @Buffyandrews: Great characters are like great movies. You never forget them. Ever. A piece of them stays with you forever. #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | dawnmetcalf: | @camoulton @thedreamereader As a sex educator, I’d have A LOT to say about this…(& as a writer, too!) #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | tehawesomersace: | @f_rancesca Regrets about decisions are part of growing up. No one says it’s unhealthy to pick the fish instead of the chicken. #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | camoulton: | @tehawesomersace @f_rancesca Healthy meaning mentally and emotionally, not just physically. Get tested, use contraceptives. Safe #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | marjorielight: | @EgmontGal That is why I run with scissors whenever I can #kidlitchat |
| 8:53 pm | EKokie: | Night all. Thanks for the great chat. I must run. #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | mgbuehrlen: | @PattyJMurphy Hey you! #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | andreacremer: | Is it virginity that’s the issue or self-respect, virginity doesn’t equal healthy sexuality@sarahockler: @camoulton #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | thereadingzone: | @RebeccAgent Oh, agreed! My teacher friends and I had fun doing a dramatic reading…still quote it to get laughs! #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | sarahockler: | @thedreamereader Exactly. Losing the V is NOT always abt. sexual desire w teens. Abt. popularity, seeking acceptance, curious… #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | thedreamereader: | @AuthorTaraKelly but the scary thing is that I’m not even in hs yet! #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | JessicaCapelle: | RT @AuthorTaraKelly: Supernatural is my modern day Buffy..it must stay! #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | PattyJMurphy: | RT mgbuehrlen RT @sarahockler: @camoulton What about a boy & his virginity? << Should be just as valuable! <absolutely! #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | CynthiaCWillis: | RT @EgmontGal: @thedreamereader Darling, I am 49 and I still bind my feet to please my men. Its not just a YA problem.— LOL! #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | camoulton: | @MargoWest I’m of the Goosebumps generation and still in the process of reading on all the great books before my time #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | RebeccAgent: | btw THE SUMMER I TURNED PRETTY is a great real world love triangle book to put in the category w/ twilight and Hunger Games #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | adamselzer: | @EgmontGal I don’t think Esther is that reliable a narrator, to start with. Also, possibly both in love w&/deeply resenting Ada. #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | TJSullivanLA: | Slush pile. Memoirs R about life lessons & teens haven’t lived yet. RT @JenniferSkyBand … where R memoirs for teens headed? #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | nandinibajpai: | @rillajaggia Me too!! The real thing never lived up to the promiseMy fav Enid Blytons were Faraway Tree & the Adventure series #kidlitchat |
| 8:54 pm | Idaho_Laurie: | @RebeccAgent Just back from picking son up at hockey…. Tim Tharp’s Knights of the Hill Country was great, too. #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | debbieohi: | @JessicaCapelle Yay! (re: putting a tea scene in your book ) #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | EgmontGal: | You guys have really made me want to reread Bleak House and think about Esther, a fave character of mine who many loathe. Hmmm #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | nkrell: | #kidlitchat @EgmontGal What’s your take on Upper Middle Grade novels? Do you think there’s a need? |
| 8:55 pm | tehawesomersace: | @camoulton But why would you qualify it with *girls* approaching losing virginity in that way? Should be same message 4 boys. #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | kcclyburn: | Boys not wanting to lose their virginity is played down a lot in books, movies, etc. Pressure to lose it might be higher. #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | rillajaggia: | So great to be back with ya’ll after several weeks under the weather. Thanks for another great chat. Gotta go visit my Mom. #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | RebeccAgent: | @thereadingzone I saw a play that spoofed it, Deenie, and …it’s Me Margaret at the Annoyance Theater in Chicago yrs ago… #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | RebeccAgent: | …and Judy Blume was in the audience! #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | thedreamereader: | @EgmontGal but isn’t extra scary when your experiencing it the first time though and you have all these people pressuring you? #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | adamselzer: | @EgmontGal and possibly so willing to bury her own identity with “duty” out of fear of said feelings #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | skodobah: | Forgot to say good night to everyone! #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | debbieohi: | Wow. So many interesting threads going on. Want to follow ALL of them. And now I want to reread SO MANY BOOKS. #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | CDominiqueG: | @JessicaCapelle @Travis_Pearson strong character for me is the tall girl from Blumes “dear got it me Margaret ” #kidlitchat |
| 8:55 pm | EgmontGal: | @sarahockler So true. We have a really neat book next fall, Rich and Mad by William Nicholson. First love, first sex. I love it. #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | MargoWest: | @camoulton Hmm I think Judy Blume was right before you, because I’m of the exact same era. #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | RebeccAgent: | @Idaho_Laurie haven’t read Hill Country YET #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | DDHearn: | @Buffyandrews Yes. I really felt for Snape. He allowed bitterness to consume him, but that just made him more human to me. #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | debbieohi: | @rillajaggia Great seeing you back on Twitter, Rilla! #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | JessicaCapelle: | @debbieohi it was a must! I’m a huge food scene person. I wanna be craving what the chars ate when they’re done! lol #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | marjorielight: | @bookmom2000 I agree totally…I want my MC’s to show me the possibilities of things I’m too chicken to do! haha #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | EgmontGal: | @kcclyburn yes, admitting you are a virgin huge issue for guys, no? #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | sarahockler: | @PattyJMurphy @camoulton Valuing virginity doesn’t nec. mean NOT losing it. #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | LJBoldyrev: | Ha! RT @EgmontGal I am 49 and I still bind my feet to please my men. Its not just a YA problem #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | catesfolly: | @EgmontGal I liked the kids who were obsessed w/something — how to build stereos, etc. Independent passion is compelling. #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | mgbuehrlen: | I thought the BBC series of Bleak House was amazing. Captured the characters excellently. Dickens is a master character builder. #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | anticlimatic: | I really want to join #kidlitchat, but I’m far too busy tonight. D: |
| 8:56 pm | chavelaque: | @EgmontGal Possible to do a modern-day YA retelling of “Bleak House,” do you think? Families trapped in foreclosure court? #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @JessicaCapelle @LJBoldyrev Behold: Supernatural novels! They read just like an episode. http://tinyurl.com/yavcfb4 #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | I never tire of first love. #kidlitchat |
| 8:56 pm | EgmontGal: | @maggiedana is it 3 in the morning where you are, by the way? #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | thereadingzone: | @nkrell I’m a 6th grade tchr & there’s a def need for upper MG in my clsrm. Lots of “inbetween” kids.YA=too much, MG=too babyish #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | PattyJMurphy: | @RebeccAgent …and Judy Blume was in the audience!<<what was her reaction? #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | @EgmontGal It depends on the guy..but usually, I’d say yes. #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | EgmontGal: | @catesfolly I agree. I really like the obsessed kid more than daredevil. But that’s personal taste. Glad we have diversity #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | JessicaCapelle: | @CDominiqueG love Blume’s chars. #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @JessicaCapelle I agree. Totally underrated. #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | kcclyburn: | @EgmontGal Not a huge issue, but it’s still kind of embarrassing. You feel like you’re getting snickered at because of it. #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | JessicaCapelle: | @Travis_Pearson yay!! thank you #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | f_rancesca: | @mgbuehrlen I need to see that. Have you read Fairest? #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | debbieohi: | @DDHearn @Buffyandrews I love Snape as a character as well. #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | tehawesomersace: | @EgmontGal Girls too, in right social context. It was my high school. #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | marjorielight: | Umm…Can someone suggest a group that types more slowly? These writers post too quickly haha #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | MargoWest: | I think a lot of people in YA think that guys talk about sex (in a non-joking manner) a lot more than they do #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | sarahockler: | Yep! RT @tehawesomersace: @camoulton But why qualify it w *girls* losing virginity in that way? Should be same message 4 boys. #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | EgmontGal: | @AuthorTaraKelly Remind me to send you our book next fall! It has your name on it. #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | camoulton: | @tehawesomersace It should be the same for boys. They all seem to view virginity as something to get rid of ASAP #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | andreacremer: | Me neither RT @AuthorTaraKelly I never tire of first love. #kidlitchat |
| 8:57 pm | dlschubert: | Most girls who lose v in hs due to popularity not sexual desire. IMHO. #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | mgbuehrlen: | RT @chavelaque: @EgmontGal Possible to do a YA retelling of “Bleak House,”–Families trapped in foreclosure court? << YUP! #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | Travis_Pearson: | @anticlimatic I’m supposed to be busy, but this is excellent procrastination. #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | EgmontGal: | @thereadingzone 6th grade is such a challenge. B+N doesn’t have tween section.kids don’t want to be babied, not ready for all YA #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | maggiedana: | I’m a Brit, living in Connecticut, so it’s 10pm RT @EgmontGal: @maggiedana is it 3 in the morning where you are, by the way? #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | nandinibajpai: | @f_rancesca Loved Fairest #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | Buffyandrews: | @DDHearn Yes. Like Snape, we all experience wanting something and not getting it. Universal emotion here. We relate. #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | LJBoldyrev: | RT @AuthorTaraKelly: I never tire of first love. #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | RebeccAgent: | @PattyJMUrphy she loved it and when everyone asked for her autograph she was gracious & said cast and director were the stars #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | dawnmetcalf: | Interesting Q from work: What’s 1 thing that “adults” can do that “kids” can’t? Have babies. So u prove ur grown-up how…? <:-( #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | JessicaCapelle: | Judy Blume was totally my childhood. And S.E. Hinton. #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | debbieohi: | @catesfolly I love obsession as a character trait as well, esp if it isolates them in some way. #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | mgbuehrlen: | @f_rancesca So good. Think you would enjoy. I haven’t read it. Should I look it up? #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | maggiedana: | @EgmontGal Re comment about binding feet. Western women do this. In high heels, and backwards. #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | MargoWest: | @thereadingzone See, this is why Animorphs were great. They were a perfect upper MG read. A little scary, but not OTT #kidlitchat |
| 8:58 pm | leewind: | @JessicaCapelle #kidlitchat I wonder if how you handle a “food” scene defines a book as “literary” or not? |
| 8:58 pm | Travis_Pearson: | TRUE RT@MargoWest I think a lot of people in YA think that guys talk about sex (in a non-joking manner) a lot more than they do #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | EgmontGal: | @chavelaque When I had Jury Duty I was on the jarndyce v jarndyce of slip and falls. took 3 weeks. #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | TrishDoller: | Speaking of teen sexuality & characters: Do “slutty” girls still exist? #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | SarahBWinters: | @marjorielight That’s why I just read a good amount of what’s said… when I can keep up. #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | dawnmetcalf: | Girls 2 IMO @camoulton @tehawesomersace [Boys] all seem to view virginity as something to get rid of ASAP #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | kcclyburn: | @dlschubert I don’t know about that. Having sex with people =/= popularity in high school. That’s a huge misnomber. #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | EgmontGal: | completely OT: I worried today about 2 women I insulted in elevator of SCBWI LA. I talked about them in my speech –BAD!!!! #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | thedreamereader: | HA! RT: @maggiedana @EgmontGal Re comment about binding feet. Western women do this. In high heels, and backwards. #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | AuthorTaraKelly: | Haha girls are just as bad as guys when it comes to sex talk. #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | jeanie_w: | Oh, me too! RT @debbieohi: @DDHearn @Buffyandrews I love Snape as a character as well. #kidlitchat |
| 8:59 pm | andreacremer: | Me too RT @JessicaCapelle Judy Blume was totally my childhood. And S.E. Hinton. #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | LJBoldyrev: | @MargoWest Loved those when I was in grade school. #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | anticlimatic: | @Travis_Pearson Which is why I must run and hide in my Microsoft Word document. #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | EgmontGal: | @maggiedana If I may say, Britain has the worst women’s footwear I have ever seen. I’m sorry, and I’m an anglophile. #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | nandinibajpai: | Agree. First love is awesome as well as individual passion #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | dawnmetcalf: | RT @JessicaCapelle Judy Blume was totally my childhood. And S.E. Hinton. #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | thedreamereader: | @TrishDoller OH MY GOSH, YES!! They’ve just gotten younger #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | JessicaCapelle: | @leewind hmmm- makes you think #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | MargoWest: | @TrishDoller In real life or YA lit? Because yes to both! But I think in YA it’s always a negative #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | chavelaque: | @dawnmetcalf John Updike in a review: what separates kids’ & adult novels is kids can’t have sex or buy property. #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | kcclyburn: | @Travis_Pearson Having sat at table with 4 sexually active girls for 2 years in HS, I don’t think I’ve ever heard more about sex #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | tehawesomersace: | @dawnmetcalf Yes! Girls do it for the same reasons as boys these days, in my day, too! #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | dawnmetcalf: | Oh, agreed! RT @AuthorTaraKelly Haha girls are just as bad as guys when it comes to sex talk. #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | EgmontGal: | @TrishDoller Slutty girls still exist but are RARELY the heroines. Almost always the bad girl. #kidlitchat |
| 9:00 pm | nkrell: | For anyone who cares, Aaron Carter was kicked off of DWTS. #kidlitchat |
| 9:01 pm | f_rancesca: | @nandinibajpai @mgbuehrlen I was pleasantly and happily surprised by how much I liked it -and I admired Levine’s evident craft. #kidlitchat |
| 9:01 pm | dlschubert: | @EgmontGal Like John Lennon said re: women “we make her paint her face & dance” We’ve come far, but nowhere near far enough. #kidlitchat |
| 9:01 pm | chavelaque: | @dawnmetcalf And he defined those two things — sex and property — as the main interest of all good literature. Feh. #kidlitchat |
