Kidlitchat Transcript – May 18

1:01 am kidlitchat: TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Voice? Hook? Character? #kidlitchat
1:01 am sharifwrites: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Voice? Hook? Character? #kidlitchat
1:01 am lyonmartin: @gregpincus you like to walk on the wild side huh? #kidlitchat
1:02 am EgmontGal: @gregpincu Neil Patrick Harris is on Glee! For a showqueen trapped in a woman’s body, it’s a tough choice. #kidlitchat
1:02 am AudryT: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Voice? Hook? Character? #kidlitchat
1:02 am kellyhashway: Hi, everyone! #kidlitchat
1:02 am EbonyMcKenna: Yay, I’ve timed it right to join in #kidlitchat
1:02 am DianaPaz_: K, I’m going into lurk-mode for the #kidlitchat. Bye, and @ me if you need me!
1:02 am bonnieadamson: TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Voice? Hook? Character? #kidlitchat
1:02 am EgmontGal: What tells me that I’ve found a winner? I love it, that’s all. I just want to keep reading. #kidlitchat
1:02 am gregpincus: @EgmontGal And he sings Dream On, I saw in commercial. Intriguing. But there is this thing called TiVo…. #kidlitchat
1:02 am TaraLazar: Oh no, it’s time for #kidlitchat & I’m just about to read to the kids! Man, I gotta get these girls tucked in earlier. Try to join ya later.
1:03 am ErinDealey: Whoa–loaded question. No spoilers @EgmontGal, please! CA tweeps have to wait a few hours for #Glee! #kidlitchat
1:03 am elanaroth: I know I’ve found a winner when I want to talk to people about it IMMEDIATELY. #kidlitchat
1:03 am debbieohi: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Voice? Hook? Character? #kidlitchat
1:03 am MaricarMac: looking forward to another great #kidlitchat. hi everyone!
1:03 am srjohannes: @EgmontGal come on you know how to multi task – Patrick neil harris had me at mullet ;) #kidlitchat
1:03 am EgmontGal: Am I convinced by the book, or am I trying to talk myself into it? Am I pulling for the protagonist?Do my hormones want the guy? #kidlitchat
1:04 am PaulWHankins: Mr. Hankins is in lurk mode too. Have a great session. #kidlitchat
1:04 am gregpincus: @kellyhashway hi, Kelly #kidlitchat
1:04 am pippinmathur: Can’t move or baby b will wake up. Good time to check into #kidlitchat
1:04 am LaFabuliste: Glee!! But I’m here, too. So what’s the topic? Can it be Neil Patrick Harris? #kidlitchat
1:04 am EbonyMcKenna: Topic – I keep laughing and crying as I type – tells me I’m on to something #kidlitchat
1:04 am ErinDealey: Voice, hook, or character? You know I believe you gotta have a hook. But Voice and Character=hooks. #kidlitchat
1:04 am Tiare75: Hi, everyone! Ready to chat. #kidlitchat
1:04 am mitaliperkins: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Voice? Hook? Character? #kidlitchat
1:04 am patricemichelle: Hi everyone! I’ve missed this chat. #kidlitchat
1:04 am amyknichols: Hi everyone. :) #kidlitchat
1:04 am TheAsianAngel: I know something’s a winner when I’m in a situation and think “This is SO character X” #kidlitchat
1:04 am adamselzer: If I’m having fun with a project, I’m doing it right. If I’m not, I’m (probably) not. #kidlitchat
1:05 am Shelltex: Hi all. #kidlitchat
1:05 am j_ro333: @gregpincus #kidlitchat I’m here! Not gonna lie – I have hockey and basketball on. But I’ll be tweeting anyway.
1:05 am michellesussman: I start writing with a hook in mind, but if my main character doesn’t develop well, the novel falls apart…. #kidlitchat
1:05 am ErinDealey: And come to think of it, character=voice. Is this a chicken-or-the-egg thing? #kidlitchat
1:05 am gregpincus: Interesting, @ElanaRoth – on the writing side, it’s similar for me: it just stays with me, excites me #kidlitchat
1:05 am adamselzer: If every idea generates more of them on its own, instead of running me into walls. #kidlitchat
1:05 am EgmontUSA: Do I get chills? Can I not put down my Kindle, even though I know there are many, MANY other things I’m supposed to be doing? #kidlitchat
1:05 am TheAsianAngel: Real-life situation, I should say. #kidlitchat
1:05 am ErinDealey: So true. RT @adamselzer If I’m having fun with a project, I’m doing it right. If I’m not, I’m (probably) not. #kidlitchat
1:05 am EgmontGal: Do I just want to find out what’s going to happen to him or her? Will I keep reading? And will an 8 or 14 yr old feel like that? #kidlitchat
1:05 am inkyelbows: #kidlitchat is on -now-. TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Hook/voice/char?
1:05 am lyonmartin: Isn’t ALL of it all merging together important? #kidlitchat
1:06 am j_ro333: @gregpincus #kidlitchat Character + Story. It cannot be one OR the other. Great character in boring, poorly constructed situation = useless.
1:06 am TrishDoller: For me, it’s when I forget that the character is a character and start thinking of him as a real person. #kidlitchat
1:06 am gregpincus: @LaFabuliste Neil is not the topic, but can be if we can get him to come to chat :-) #kidlitchat
1:06 am jafhedlund: RT @EbonyMcKenna: Topic – I keep laughing and crying as I type – tells me Im on to something #kidlitchat
1:06 am LaFabuliste: Hmm… how do you know you have a winner? As intern, I knew I loved a book we acquired when I ran into my boss’s office for… #kidlitchat
1:06 am Tiare75: I know I’ve written a winner if my story manages to make me LOL. #kidlitchat
1:06 am WendySparrow: I know I have a winner going when beta-readers stop showering and sleeping to read it. #kidlitchat #ILikeStinkyInsomniacs
1:06 am srjohannes: for me voice is the glue – you can work on plot or hook or premise- but voice is tough to build if you dont have it. #kidlitchat
1:06 am elanaroth: If I don’t want to tell people about it, the book has not caught me. #kidlitchat
1:06 am TheAsianAngel: Also, if I laugh out loud in anticipation of writing a scene because I know how funny it can be. #kidlitchat
1:06 am Shelltex: When I want to keep writing to see what the characters will do or say next. #kidlitchat
1:06 am LaFabuliste: …last six pages of MS. I needed them. I craved them. I could not live without them. #kidlitchat
1:06 am sharifwrites: I have unfinished projects. But when I finish something and still love it, I feel like I have something. #kidlitchat
1:07 am EbonyMcKenna: If all my other projects fall by the wayside because I’m so engrossed. #kidlitchat
1:07 am kellyhashway: @TrishDoller I completely agree! #kidlitchat
1:07 am jafhedlund: Yes! RT @TheAsianAngel: Also, if I laugh out loud in anticipation of writing a scene because I know how funny it can be. #kidlitchat
1:07 am michellesussman: RT @Shelltex: When I want to keep writing to see what the characters will do or say next. #kidlitchat
1:07 am Georgia_McBride: RT @inkyelbows: #kidlitchat is on -now-. TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Hook/voice/char?
1:07 am kellyhashway: For me, it’s when the character’s voice is in my head even when I’m not writing. #kidlitchat
1:07 am VBTremper: Lurking on #kidlitchat.
1:07 am ErinDealey: Agree! RT @LaFabuliste …last six pages of MS. I needed them. I craved them. I could not live without them. #kidlitchat
1:07 am amyknichols: For me, it’s voice. When I have a solid and interesting voice in my head, I can’t stop writing or thinking about the story. #kidlitchat
1:07 am EgmontGal: Most books I like I want to read again. Or again and again. That’s a really good sign, if I find myself rereading. #kidlitchat
1:07 am JessicaLeader: 1 of 2 things: a plot I want to see resolved and a character whose pain I want to see eased. Pref w/good voice. #kidlitchat
1:07 am alittlesandy: Yes! RT @Tiare75 I know I’ve written a winner if my story manages to make me LOL #kidlitchat
1:08 am sharifwrites: Also when crit group is more engaged than usual and eagerly awaits the next installment. #kidlitchat
1:08 am TheAsianAngel: Like laughing before telling a joke because you know the punchline. If I get giggles before writing a scene, it’s a winner. #kidlitchat
1:08 am gregpincus: So, basically, for writers, we know we’ve got a winner when we have created life :-) #kidlitchat
1:08 am srjohannes: @JessicaLeader i love that jessica! #kidlitchat
1:08 am Shelltex: Agree on feeling project is a winner if it makes me laugh or cry. #kidlitchat
1:08 am ShrryAdams: RT @inkyelbows: #kidlitchat is on -now-. TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Hook/voice/char?
1:08 am jafhedlund: When I get teary during the writing process – or I am laughing out loud #kidlitchat
1:08 am pippinmathur: RT @EgmontGal: Most books I like I want to read again. Or again and again. That’s a really good sign, if I find myself rereading. #kidlitchat
1:08 am ErinDealey: OK but sometimes I think I’ve written a winner and get great rejections… #kidlitchat
1:08 am skodobah: When my beta readers dream about my characters and obsess about them on a daily basis. #kidlitchat
1:08 am michellesussman: RT @gregpincus: So, basically, for writers, we know weve got a winner when we have created life :-) #kidlitchat
1:08 am patricemichelle: I know I have a good one when I can’t stop thinking about the characters & I write out the entire story outline, um, in detail. #kidlitchat
1:08 am j_ro333: #kidlitchat It’s also great when I put it away for a few weeks, then reread, and fall in love with it all over again.
1:08 am Becky_Levine: Hey–Got Joni Mitchell playing & ready 2 chat re voice. I think I did ok on my MG mystery, but SOME challenge on historical YA. #kidlitchat
1:08 am WendySparrow: I also like when I’ve let a project stew after complete and come back six months later and it feels like rediscovering treasure. #kidlitchat
1:08 am JanGangsei: For me, when my characters become “real” with their own quirks/motivations — not me imagining how I’d react in their situation. #kidlitchat
1:08 am amyknichols: @gregpincus That’s a good way of putting it. :) #kidlitchat
1:08 am the_familiars: For me it starts with a great premise. A one-liner that excites me and others. Then it’s about execution. #kidlitchat
1:08 am srjohannes: RT @gregpincus: So, basically, for writers, we know weve got a winner when we have created life :-) #kidlitchat
1:09 am LaFabuliste: Gah, I cannot focus on two things at once. See you all at commercials. #kidlitchat
1:09 am CityCastles: RT @inkyelbows #kidlitchat is on -now-. TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Hook/voice/char?
1:09 am LiteraryAsylum: I want the promise at the beginning to be resolved and every move made is taking me there. Character in the story. #kidlitchat
1:09 am j_ro333: #kidlitchat Lastly – when I work my tail off to hack and slash and get it in the best possible shape – that’s love, baby.
1:09 am ErinDealey: RT @srjohannes: RT @gregpincus: So, basically, for writers, we know weve got a winner when we have created life :-) #kidlitchat
1:09 am Becky_Levine: Oh–thought the topic was voice, see that’s just possible way to recognize a winner. Starting over! #kidlitchat
1:09 am patricemichelle: Haha, I stop asking my agent, which one of these do you like best? #amobsessed! #kidlitchat
1:09 am EbonyMcKenna: #kidlitchat – @sharitwrites – yes the crit group is v important
1:09 am Tiare75: @TheAsianAngel Yes! I get the giggles, too, and I know it is working. #kidlitchat
1:09 am kellyhashway: RT @gregpincus: So, basically, for writers, we know weve got a winner when we have created life :-) #kidlitchat
1:09 am JessicaLeader: @WendySparrow So rare for me to come back and discover treasure! Mostly discovering garbage, w/a few gems thrown in… #kidlitchat
1:10 am ImaginingLily: Great topic @gregpincus #kidlitchat
1:10 am JessicaLeader: @srjohannes Thank you! Subj was similar on a recent MFA chat, so I had time to think about it! :) #kidlitchat
1:10 am j_ro333: Like! RT @the_familiars: For me it starts with a great premise.A one-liner that excites me and others.Then it’s about execution. #kidlitchat
1:10 am TheAsianAngel: @Tiare75 Thankfully, I write in solace or people would think I was a maniac, laughing to myself. Hehe! #kidlitchat
1:10 am sharifwrites: @JanGangsei That’s a good one, when characters have a life of their own. #kidlitchat
1:10 am onbeyondwords: Hi everyone. As both a reader and a writer, for me – you have to care about the character. #kidlitchat
1:10 am j_ro333: RT @WendySparrow: I also like when I’ve let a project stew after complete and come back six months later and it feels like rediscovering treasure. #kidlitchat
1:11 am bonnieadamson: I know it’s worth the effort when I look forward to going back there (to the ms.) every morning. #kidlitchat
1:11 am ErinDealey: Yes–my agent’s opinion=important. Caring abt character–yes. But isn’t that voice? #kidlitchat
1:11 am WendySparrow: @JessicaLeader Still… you have enough perspective to recognize gems and toss out garbage at that point. #kidlitchat
1:11 am TrishDoller: @TheAsianAngel @Tiare75 I was giggling at the B&N cafe today. Felt like a goof! #kidlitchat
1:11 am TheAsianAngel: You also know it’s good when you think, “Holy crap, this came from ME?” #kidlitchat
1:11 am kellyhashway: When you don’t get tired of reading the story–even after multiple revisions! #kidlitchat
1:11 am Becky_Levine: Sometimes I feel like I’m writing a winner, cuz the hero keeps demanding my attention. Even if I’m not giving her all she wants. #kidlitchat
1:11 am j_ro333: #kidlitchat From exterior forces: when my beta readers start talking about the toy line and merchandizing.
1:11 am onbeyondwords: @TheAsianAngel It’s a great feeling to go back and read something you’ve written and be surprised at how funny it is. #kidlitchat
1:11 am the_familiars: Personally, I know I’ve written a winner when a scene or line elicits emotion (laughter, sadness, excitement) every time I read. #kidlitchat
1:12 am adamselzer: @onbeyondwords Or you can just laugh along with them. Like, you don’t necessarily CARE about Richard III… #kidlitchat
1:12 am gregpincus: Wow @WendySparrow – putting something aside for 6 months is mighty impressive. 6 minutes isn’t enough, tho :-) #kidlitchat
1:12 am the_familiars: Professionally, I know I’ve written a winner when my agent calls and says a publisher has made an offer. #kidlitchat
1:12 am ImaginingLily: When I’m typing through my tears I know I’ve got something. #kidlitchat
1:12 am Tiare75: @TheAsianAngel Sometimes I write in the library or Starbucks and burst into laughter. #kidlitchat
1:12 am LaFabuliste: Commercial! #kidlitchat
1:12 am pippinmathur: @bonnieadamson that’s it for me, illo or story. If I wake up in the morning and an excited about current project, a good sign. #kidlitchat
1:12 am ErinDealey: yes! Especially the later drafts. RT @bonnieadamson I know it’s worth the effort when I look forward to going back to the ms. #kidlitchat
1:13 am LaFabuliste: I knew I had a relationship when I felt that flutter in my own stomach; I knew I had tension when I left starbucks in shakes. #kidlitchat
1:13 am EgmontGal: @adamselzer yeah, but that’s why I prefer Richard II It’s more moving! I never like the 2nd half of biopics when it falls apart #kidlitchat
1:13 am j_ro333: RT @the_familiars: Personally, I know I’ve written a winner when a scene or line elicits emotion (laughter, sadness, excitement) every time I read. #kidlitchat
1:13 am TheAsianAngel: Gigglers of the world, unite! RT @TrishDoller: @Tiare75 @jafhedlund I was giggling at the B&N cafe today. Felt like a goof! #kidlitchat
1:13 am hpinski: Pacing, rhythm is key. I can just feel by the flow if it’s good or garbage. #kidlitchat
1:13 am KatGirl_Studio: RT @kellyhashway: When you don’t get tired of reading the story–even after multiple revisions! <–Yes exactly! #kidlitchat
1:13 am WendySparrow: @gregpincus It’s really hard to set stuff aside to gain perspective, but it’s so worth it when you can… even for three months. #kidlitchat
1:13 am LiaKeyes: @gregpincus Hi everyone! So happy to be here. I’ve been working so hard lately I haven’t been able to play. Topic? #kidlitchat
1:13 am srjohannes: when my agent says “you nailed it!” thats when i know I have something. whether editors think so remains to be seen. #kidlitchat
1:13 am ErinDealey: haha! Agree. RT @the_familiars: Professionally, I know Ive written a winner when my agent calls & says publisher has made offer. #kidlitchat
1:13 am authorViviAnna: I feel like I’ve written a winner when I can think of 10 more adventures for my characters to go on #kidlitchat
1:13 am EgmontGal: @kellyhashway I like it when I go to sleep and keep dreaming about a book. Happened this weekend with Guernsey Literary Society. #kidlitchat
1:13 am EbonyMcKenna: Agree – RT @j_ro333: #kidlitchat It’s also great when I put it away for a few weeks, then reread, and fall in love with it all over again.
1:14 am DrlemonWCGGG: #kidlitchat Well, my hook for the Peep story is pretty good.
1:14 am LaFabuliste: Glee’s back! #kidlitchat
1:14 am PattyJMurphy: @gregpincus: @WendySparrow: E.B. White referred to stepping back from a ms as “Letting the body heat out of it!” Love that:) #kidlitchat
1:14 am adamselzer: @EgmontGal I have this theory that no great play has a 2nd half better than the 1st. I’m sure it could be shot apart, though. #kidlitchat
1:14 am Becky_Levine: Oh, yeah, I’m pretty sure I’m on to SOMETHING when my mom likes it. Unlike the stereotype, she’s pretty…honest! #kidlitchat
1:14 am jafhedlund: I’m actually struggling with this issue now. As an unpublished author, I’m still not sure when I’ve got a winner… #kidlitchat
1:14 am MaricarMac: This for me too! @kellyhashway When you don’t get tired of reading the story–even after multiple revisions! #kidlitchat
1:14 am lorna: RT @ImaginingLily When I’m typing through my tears I know I’ve got something. #kidlitchat >> wow.
1:14 am JessicaLeader: I don’t think it’s ever clear to me that what I’m working on is publishable.Drafts go thru so many stages & I need external opin #kidlitchat
1:14 am DrlemonWCGGG: #kidlitchat Don’t know if that was too relevant, though.
1:14 am kellyhashway: @EgmontGal I have to keep a writing journal by my bed for exactly that reason! #kidlitchat
1:14 am michellesussman: RT @jafhedlund: Im actually struggling with this issue now. As an unpublished author, Im still not sure when Ive got a winner… #kidlitchat
1:14 am gregpincus: @the_familiars But what if they don’t make an offer on the first go round. Do you then doubt that you’d written a winner? #kidlitchat
1:15 am VBTremper: RT @the_familiars: Professionally, I know I’ve written a winner when my agent calls and says a publisher has made an offer. #kidlitchat
1:15 am gregpincus: @LiaKeyes TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Voice? Hook? Character? #kidlitchat
1:15 am ImaginingLily: And… when my characters won’t leave me alone, even when I’m sleeping. #kidlitchat
1:15 am patricemichelle: When the characters become so real, I think about them non stop #kidlitchat
1:15 am tristanbancks: Hey kidlitchatters. Great topic & discussion. Would like to stay but I should write. Look fwd to reading the transcript. #kidlitchat
1:15 am TheAsianAngel: @onbeyondwords Isn’t that the best? Then you just want to show the world. #kidlitchat
1:15 am jafhedlund: …b/c sometimes I love something (and so does my critique group), but it editors/agents tell me it won’t work. #kidlitchat
1:15 am ErinDealey: @EgmontGal @kellyhashway Loved that book! Maybe because it’s about books. Gave it to everyone one Christmas. #kidlitchat
1:15 am Becky_Levine: @jafhedlund Re unpublished & knowing–this is the hardest, I think. Pushing forward when you think/hope it’s a winner, but… #kidlitchat
1:15 am onbeyondwords: @adamselzer True – you can even laugh at them. Really, any reason to laugh is good. #kidlitchat
1:15 am WendySparrow: @gregpincus @PattyJMurphy You know… I thought I could be objective, but revising was so much easier six months later. #kidlitchat
1:15 am LiaKeyes: RT @gregpincus: @LiaKeyes TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Voice? Hook? Character? #kidlitchat
1:16 am WendySparrow: RT @PattyJMurphy: @gregpincus: @WendySparrow: E.B. White referred to stepping back from a ms as “Letting the body heat out of it!” Love that:) #kidlitchat
1:16 am JessicaLeader: @srjohannes Altho don’t you doubt if you’ve really nailed it? For my 1st and only pubbed, “a winner” was when I let go #kidlitchat
1:16 am jafhedlund: Part of “voice” is confidence, authenticity and authority. It’s hard to trust those if you haven’t had prof. validation #kidlitchat
1:16 am the_familiars: @gregpincus For me-professionally speaking-it’s a zero sum game. You either win or lose based on the sale. No moral victories. #kidlitchat
1:16 am PattyJMurphy: RT @Becky_Levine: Im pretty sure Im on to SOMETHING when my mom likes it. Unlike stereotype, shes pretty honest! <–Mine, too:) #kidlitchat
1:16 am cjomololu: I read it over and even though I don’t remember writing it,surprisingly it doesn’t suck. #kidlitchat
1:16 am JessicaLeader: Maybe I’m captain peevish here, but I’ve heard my opin echoed elsewhere so I don’t think I’m totally crazy… #kidlitchat
1:16 am gregpincus: @WendySparrow @PattyJMurphy six months is impressive. weeks seems to work for me. But I do agree perspective/distance helps #kidlitchat
1:17 am srjohannes: @JessicaLeader i agree with her….for like a day. :) #kidlitchat
1:17 am patricemichelle: re:Not sure when? Sometimes you just HAVE to finish it for yourself. I think that often shines through in the writing. #kidlitchat
1:17 am VBTremper: RT @cjomololu: I read it over and even though I don’t remember writing it,surprisingly it doesn’t suck. #kidlitchat
1:17 am onbeyondwords: @TheAsianAngel Absolutely – or at least show it off to my critique group and other writers in my family – to begin with. #kidlitchat
1:17 am JessicaLeader: @WendySparrow Agreed. The skill to separate garbage from gems is a pleasing one to have acquired! #kidlitchat
1:17 am cjomololu: Winner is subjective. I’ve never read the actual hardback of my book because I know I’ll find things that I want to change. #kidlitchat
1:17 am TheAsianAngel: Sad, but I’ve never been one of those people whose characters “talk” to them. That concept creeps me out a wee bit. #kidlitchat
1:17 am adamselzer: @EgmontGal Hmm…yes…also Arsenic and Old Lace…maybe I should exempt comedies or just abandon this theory altogether. #kidlitchat
1:17 am ImaginingLily: @WendySparrow – I agree. It’s been six months for me, and now I’m itching to revise. #kidlitchat
1:18 am gregpincus: @the_familiars Zero sum? So you don’t think that a relationship forged by an unsold MS can lead to future biz? #kidlitchat
1:18 am lyonmartin: I wrote a horrible first draft last year but the story won’t let me go. #kidlitchat
1:18 am JessicaLeader: @srjohannes Ha! Glad to know I am not totally captain peevish! You seem very cheery, so it’s nice to find you in the boat. #kidlitchat
1:18 am EbonyMcKenna: RT #kidlitchat is on -now-. TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Hook/voice/char?
1:18 am LiaKeyes: @gregpincus I’m only finishing first book now, five years after the first of three agents offered rep based on a workshop sample #kidlitchat
1:18 am ErinDealey: @WendySparrow revising so much easier 6mos later haha Working on mg revisions now &finally decided agent & 3 editors=right! duh. #kidlitchat
1:18 am jafhedlund: @lyonmartin aren’t all first drafts horrible? lol! #kidlitchat
1:18 am TheAsianAngel: Mine is more a gut feeling. I know as I’m writing something if it’ll work or not. Unfortunately, sometimes I still plow ahead. #kidlitchat
1:19 am notawriter: RT @bonnieadamson: I know it’s worth the effort when I look forward to going back there (to the ms.) every morning. #kidlitchat
1:19 am tia_bowman: I’ve written a winner when I enjoy reading it. I’m a perfectionist [aren't we all?], so to really love my work is a huge feat. #kidlitchat
1:19 am EbonyMcKenna: #kidlitchat – didn’t know whatI had with Ondine, but wanted to finish it to please myself – only then I thought ‘I might have something’
1:19 am gregpincus: @the_familiars As a screenwriter,I got rewrite work because of scripts that didn’t sell. Those were professionally successful. #kidlitchat
1:19 am j_ro333: You Betcha!!! RT @jafhedlund: @lyonmartin aren’t all first drafts horrible? lol! #kidlitchat
1:19 am sharifwrites: @lyonmartin First drafts are horrible. Persist if your instincts tell you to. #kidlitchat
1:19 am ErinDealey: Do it! @ImaginingLily itching to revise. #kidlitchat
1:19 am kellyhashway: @TheAsianAngel Having your characters talk to you is a good thing. It means they have a strong voice, which is always good. #kidlitchat
1:19 am Becky_Levine: @lyonmartin I’m in the middle of that horrible 1st draft right now–and, yeah, it won’t let me go. That’s a good thing, mostly! #kidlitchat
1:19 am WendySparrow: @ImaginingLily Yes. I’ve hated revising in the past when I was revising a month after completion. This time it was easy and fun. #kidlitchat
1:19 am hpinski: when I don’t feel like I’m thinking up a story as much as I’m writing one that wants to be told. #kidlitchat
1:19 am jennymckmoss: I can’t believe I forgot about chat. Good evening, everyone. #kidlitchat
1:19 am Tiare75: My characters don’t talk to me, exactly, but I can watch them like a movie in my head. Is that normal? #kidlitchat
1:19 am cjomololu: @gregpincus I don’t trust people who don’t have ‘practice’ books in a drawer somewhere. Or won’t admit to it. #kidlitchat
1:20 am lyonmartin: @jafhedlund: R they? #kidlitchat
1:20 am elanaroth: How does an agent contribute to this conversation? #kidlitchat
1:20 am srjohannes: @JessicaLeader cheery? its an act my dear all an act. Im actually really grumpy :) #kidlitchat
1:20 am gregpincus: @adamselzer Comedies probably do shoot your theory apart. Farces that build and build, for instance. #kidlitchat
1:20 am jennymckmoss: I forgot how to find the topic. *blushes* #kidlitchat
1:20 am hpinski: RT @sharifwrites: @lyonmartin First drafts are horrible. Persist if your instincts tell you to. #kidlitchat
1:20 am sandyfussell: I don’t think I could write it if my characters didn’t talk to me. Sometimes I think I am a listener-transcriber not a writer #kidlitchat
1:20 am cjomololu: @Tiare75 I hope it is! #kidlitchat
1:20 am MaricarMac: @jafhedlund the challenge is to trust our own voice enough to let it shine, even without validation #kidlitchat
1:20 am TheAsianAngel: @Tiare75 Gasp! I so totally do that. #kidlitchat
1:20 am adamselzer: LOVE 1 voice I experimented w this week, but I don’t think it’d be nearly as good by p100. Line b/w hook and gimmick. #kidlitchat
1:20 am the_familiars: @gregpincus Yes, you make a good point. But as both an author/screenwriter an unsold script or MS does not feel like a “win”. #kidlitchat
1:20 am JessicaLeader: My sweetie just lured me in for glee. Neil Patrick Harris singing “piano man” =brilliant. #kidlitchat multi-tasking
1:21 am KatGirl_Studio: @Tiare75 yep I do the same thing actually #kidlitchat
1:21 am ErinDealey: @jennymckmoss Good luck keeping up! even with Tweetchat I’m missing stuff! #kidlitchat
1:21 am bonnieadamson: @elanaroth By elaborating on what moves you to make an offer. :-) #kidlitchat
1:21 am patricemichelle: The more books you write, the tighter your first drafts usually are. Er, or maybe I should say…less # of rewrites. LOL! #kidlitchat
1:21 am j_ro333: @lyonmartin #kidlitchat I already shot 2 sequences from a film and I’m now not happy with the script. Story there. Needs TONS of editing.
1:21 am onbeyondwords: @WendySparrow It’s heartening you went back to revise 6 months later. Maybe there’s hope for the ms I shelved last summer. #kidlitchat
1:21 am sandyfussell: @cjomololu I agree. Practise books are a sign of evolving writing. And writer has to evolve. #kidlitchat
1:21 am jennymckmoss: @cjomololu I have a MG fantasy I worked years on in a drawer. Still miss it sometimes. ;) #kidlitchat
1:21 am MaricarMac: @TheAsianAngel me too. my characters don’t talk to me. I eavesdrop on them #kidlitchat
1:21 am cjomololu: @elanaroth How do you know when you spot a ‘winner’? #kidlitchat
1:21 am Becky_Levine: @MaricarMac I think my challenge is to PUSH my own voice far enough, then pull back IF it goes too wonky. :) #kidlitchat
1:21 am srjohannes: thats a good question to pub authors – if you dont sell – do you lose faith that you have a winner? or do you stay confident? #kidlitchat
1:21 am LaFabuliste: @Tiare75 Mine don’t speak to me, but thru me. Rare is day I dont have a convo between Hortense and Napoleon on way home. #kidlitchat
1:21 am gregpincus: @ElanaRoth – well, do you “know it when you see it” in terms of why you ask someone to rep them? is it hook? Voice? All? #kidlitchat
1:21 am kellyhashway: @elanaroth Which do you look for right off the bat? Very first sentence. #kidlitchat
1:21 am ErinDealey: @JessicaLeader no #Glee spoilers! That’s the rule–right Greg? #kidlitchat
1:21 am TheAsianAngel: I also imagine Jude Law’s voice in my head reading the story. If Jude Law can’t make it sound good, it gotsta go! #kidlitchat
1:21 am jennymckmoss: @ErinDealey This is fast. Do you know the topic? #kidlitchat
1:22 am Becky_Levine: @adamselzer What do ou do when you’re experimenting with a voice? Write scenes just for that? Play with difft versions? #kidlitchat
1:22 am tia_bowman: @Tiare75 I do that too! It’s the only way to make sense of the scene, to imagine it. It would be so cool if my chars talked 2me. #kidlitchat
1:22 am elanaroth: @kellyhashway I need a sense of character immediately. I tend to like some self-awareness from the get-go. #kidlitchat
1:22 am KarlaKT: When someone I highly respect was laughing so hard his wife called from the kitchen to ask what he was doing…reading my book! #kidlitchat
1:22 am LiteraryAsylum: finishing a first draft is a win! That is the first step. #kidlitchat
1:22 am TheAsianAngel: I love that!!!! RT @MaricarMac: @TheAsianAngel me too. my characters dont talk to me. I eavesdrop on them #kidlitchat
1:22 am cjomololu: @srjohannes I’m still revising the first book that hasn’t sold. Yet. #kidlitchat
1:22 am gregpincus: @the_familiars I agree with that on the feeling front, indeed. When my specs don’t sell, it’s no fun. Period. #kidlitchat
1:22 am WendySparrow: @elanaroth I have a question, Elana. How often do you recognize talent even if THIS might not be their story? Do you tell them? #kidlitchat
1:22 am elanaroth: @gregpincus Hook gets me to request it. Voice gets me to sign it. #kidlitchat
1:22 am elanaroth: @cjomololu I can’t stop telling people about it. #kidlitchat
1:22 am adamselzer: @Becky_Levine throw a bunch at the wall, see what sticks, try to guess if it’ll stay stuck for 200 pages. #kidlitchat
1:22 am sandyfussell: @jennymckmoss TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Hook/voice/char? #kidlitchat
1:23 am Natalie_Fischer: If I WANT to reread, HAVE to have it, keep thinking about it weeks later, or want to write OMG to author I know it’s a winner #kidlitchat
1:23 am ErinDealey: @jennymckmoss TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Hook/voice/char? #kidlitchat
1:23 am gregpincus: @cjomololu I like “practice book” as a concept though I don’t know anyone who thinks that’s what they’re writing! #kidlitchat
1:23 am LiaKeyes: RT @elanaroth: @gregpincus Hook gets me to request it. Voice gets me to sign it. #kidlitchat
1:23 am jennymckmoss: @srjohannes My first ms didn’t sell. The best thing I did was set it aside and write two others, which did sell. Tough decision #kidlitchat
1:23 am j_ro333: RT @elanaroth: @gregpincus Hook gets me to request it. Voice gets me to sign it. #kidlitchat
1:23 am elanaroth: @WendySparrow Yes. I’ve signed brilliant writers whose first book I didn’t sell. Knew they had it. Sold Book 2. #kidlitchat
1:23 am LaFabuliste: Ah, voice. That mythical unicorn of the fiction universe. #kidlitchat
1:23 am JessicaLeader: @srjohannes Great q! Hard to figure out when you shd trust gut vs murder darling. Sometimes darling just isn’t dressed well #kidlitchat
1:23 am yachicka: when characters take over the story and wreak havock with what I ‘thought’ book was about – love/hate that #kidlitchat
1:23 am Becky_Levine: Les Edgerton talks re 1st scene hooking reader onto character. Since/if you’re minimizing bkgrd info, I think voice helps lots. #kidlitchat
1:23 am jennymckmoss: @sandyfussell @ErinDealey Ah. Thank you. #kidlitchat
1:23 am Shelltex: @elanaroth As an agent do you ever read something and immediately have particular editor in mind for it? #kidlitchat
1:23 am srjohannes: love this! RT @elanaroth: @gregpincus Hook gets me to request it. Voice gets me to sign it. #kidlitchat
1:23 am Natalie_Fischer: This –> RT @gregpincus Hook gets me to request it. Voice gets me to sign it. #kidlitchat
1:23 am adamselzer: Like, with one book I had 5-6 narrators, but drafted chapters from about 8 more as experiments. #kidlitchat
1:23 am gregpincus: RT @elanaroth: Hook gets me to request it. Voice gets me to sign it. #kidlitchat
1:24 am bonnieadamson: @gregpincus But do you ever REALLY give up on a book? I always think I can save it, even if put aside for later . . . #kidlitchat
1:24 am ErinDealey: omg you guys. How much caffeine did you inject today? #tryingtokeepup #kidlitchat
1:24 am hpinski: RT @yachicka: when characters take over the story and wreak havock with what I thought book was about – love/hate that #kidlitchat
1:24 am authorViviAnna: it is definitely the voice that keeps me reading a book #kidlitchat
1:24 am BrighterScribe: RT @inkyelbows: #kidlitchat is on -now-. TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Hook/voice/char?
1:24 am TheAsianAngel: @kellyhashway Oh, I’m not questioning the utility! I just don’t need any confusion w/ the other voices already in my head. :o ) #kidlitchat
1:24 am elanaroth: @Shelltex Yes. If I can’t think of 3 editors who will want to see it, it’s probably too specific of a taste. #kidlitchat
1:24 am BrighterScribe: RT @JessicaLeader: 1 of 2 things: a plot I want to see resolved and a character whose pain I want to see eased. Pref w/good voice. #kidlitchat
1:24 am TaraLazar: I knew I had winner when crit partner said “this is going to sell.” Then I subbed to agent who rejected, but said it would sell. #kidlitchat
1:24 am ErinDealey: NIcely put. @gregpincus RT @elanaroth: Hook gets me to request it. Voice gets me to sign it. #kidlitchat
1:24 am BrighterScribe: RT @JessicaLeader: I don’t think it’s ever clear to me that what I’m working on is publishable.Drafts go thru so many stages & I need external opin #kidlitchat
1:24 am WendySparrow: @onbeyondwords WIP was a frame story with more stories contained within, but I needed to cut. I couldn’t do it… then. #kidlitchat
1:24 am Becky_Levine: @adamselzer Cool. So not just playing with voice, but pov characters. #kidlitchat
1:25 am jennymckmoss: The biggest difference between my first ms (didn’t sell) and the next two was Voice. I just couldn’t get it on the first one. #kidlitchat
1:25 am srjohannes: @bonnieadamson i have a couple old books that begged me to put them out of their misery :) so yes some never get revived. #kidlitchat
1:25 am lyonmartin: @j_ro333 that sucks #kidlitchat
1:25 am Tiare75: @gregpincus I was convinced my “practice book” was awesome. Oh, how I’ve grown since then! TG. #kidlitchat
1:25 am TheAsianAngel: @adamselzer Oy. I can’t invest that much effort into something if I’ve got any doubt. #kidlitchat
1:25 am CarolTanzman: Hi, all. just signed in. @bonnieadamson@gregpincus. Yes, I have given up on a book. After really trying to make it work. #kidlitchat
1:25 am kellyhashway: @elanaroth For those who sold book 2, did you have an idea that book 1 wouldn’t sell? If so, what made you offer representation? #kidlitchat
1:25 am WendySparrow: @elanaroth Awww… I sort of want to hug you for saying that… #kidlitchat
1:25 am gregpincus: @Natalie_Fischer just for the record, that was @ElanaRoth who said it. But it’s great and I would happily take credit for it #kidlitchat
1:25 am j_ro333: @TaraLazar #kidlitchat I had same thing – a few agents rejected but said it would sell. Never understood that.
1:25 am authorViviAnna: I knew I had a winner when even after rewriting it for the 5th time, I still LOVED the characters and the story #kidlitchat
1:25 am EgmontGal: @ErinDealey Plot and character –do I root for protagonist?–are what get me to love it, though #kidlitchat
1:25 am bonnieadamson: @TaraLazar And was that the one that DID sell? #kidlitchat
1:25 am TaraLazar: A book you give up on isn’t a waste. It helped you learn how to write the next book better. #kidlitchat
1:26 am elanaroth: @kellyhashway Talk to @andy_marino. His first book was WEIRD. But he’s just so goddamn talented. I knew he was someone to grow. #kidlitchat
1:26 am sandyfussell: @adamselzer How many narrators did you ultimately keep? #kidlitchat
1:26 am LiaKeyes: Has anyone given up on a book that others thought was a winner but they just couldn’t make it work? #kidlitchat
1:26 am gregpincus: @BonnieAdamson I have given up on projects for many reasons. But I think I’m always secretly hoping for a way to “save” them. #kidlitchat
1:26 am WendySparrow: RT @elanaroth: @Shelltex Yes. If I can’t think of 3 editors who will want to see it, it’s probably too specific of a taste. #kidlitchat
1:26 am jennymckmoss: RT @TaraLazar: A book you give up on isnt a waste. It helped you learn how to write the next book better. #kidlitchat
1:26 am cjomololu: I spent a year writing a book that my agent looked at and said she couldn’t sell. Spent 3 months on the next one that did. #kidlitchat
1:26 am bonnieadamson: @srjohannes See, those are the ones I never finish. The ones I finish, I always have hopes for. #kidlitchat
1:26 am gregpincus: @Tiare75 Yes. I’m always convinced of awesomosity. I am not always right :-) #kidlitchat
1:26 am elanaroth: @WendySparrow When a writer has it, I don’t give up after Book 1. The market is too shifty sometimes. #kidlitchat
1:26 am tia_bowman: RT @TaraLazar: A book you give up on isnt a waste. It helped you learn how to write the next book better. #kidlitchat
1:26 am TheAsianAngel: That’s a great voice to have too! RT @tia_bowman: @TheAsianAngel My inner narrator’s voice is Jim Dale. ^_^ #kidlitchat
1:26 am Natalie_Fischer: @gregpincus Ah, sorry! It was wonderfully said. #kidlitchat
1:27 am HeidiRKling: Reactions from crit members are a sign if something will sell. Also, eyes of people when you deliver your pitch. #kidlitchat
1:27 am TaraLazar: @j_ro333 This agent said he liked it, but it didn’t feel unique enough. I revised. Next agent I sent it to offered! #kidlitchat
1:27 am ErinDealey: Yes! We have to want prot to win. @EgmontGal Plot and character –do I root for protagonist?–are what get me to love it, though #kidlitchat
1:27 am adamselzer: @sandyfussell four main ones. A couple others got a short chapter each. There were so many ways to tell that one… #kidlitchat
1:27 am sandyfussell: You never know when you will go back to a book once given up on and find a new life or perspective for it. #kidlitchat
1:27 am the_familiars: No piece of finished material ever dies. But you have to know when to cut your losses and move on to the next one. #kidlitchat
1:27 am onbeyondwords: @WendySparrow Right – you get too close. I abandoned one novel to start a new YA idea. Want to finish the 1st one at some point. #kidlitchat
1:27 am EgmontGal: @adamselzer yeah, that’s what I was saying. Kaufman and Hart et al. set up their plays with the first act. #kidlitchat
1:27 am LiaKeyes: RT @elanaroth: @WendySparrow When a writer has it, I dont give up after Book 1. The market is too shifty sometimes. #kidlitchat
1:27 am LauraRenegar: RT @taralazar: A book you give up on isn’t a waste. It helped you learn how to write the next book better. #kidlitchat
1:27 am Becky_Levine: RT @sandyfussell: You never know when you will go back to a book once given up on and find a new life or perspective for it. #kidlitchat
1:27 am marcie8: Me too @BonnieAdamson But do you ever REALLY give up on a book? I always think I can save it, even if put aside for later #kidlitchat
1:28 am jafhedlund: No writing is ever wasted. Even when we “kill our babies,” they served a purpose. #kidlitchat
1:28 am 4KidLit: RT @the_familiars: No piece of finished material ever dies. But you have to know when to cut your losses and move on to the next one. #kidlitchat
1:28 am authorViviAnna: @LiaKeyes yup, I had this concept that I knew was killer and would sell, and my agent loved it, but I just couldn’t make it work #kidlitchat
1:28 am tia_bowman: @LiaKeyes Many times… But usually I give up on it before I write too much. It’s pretty obvious @ th start it’s not gonna work. #kidlitchat
1:28 am ErinDealey: Hey everyone (speaking of if it’s a winner) @HeidiRKling ‘s SEA is due to launch June 12th. Just sayin… #kidlitchat
1:29 am TaraLazar: Yes, @BonnieAdamson, I’ve truly given up on some early picture books. I know I’m a better writer now, with better topics/themes. #kidlitchat
1:29 am patricemichelle: Yes, time away from a story that wasn’t working before brings on a whole new perspective when you go back to it. #kidlitchat
1:29 am onbeyondwords: @sandyfussell I’m counting on going back to some earlier novels I shelved for other things. I hope a new perspective will help. #kidlitchat
1:29 am RebeccAgent: Hi all. Joining late #kidlitchat
1:29 am elanaroth: I’ve passed on AMAZING concepts. But the characters/voice didn’t have it. That freakin’ sucks. #kidlitchat
1:29 am WendySparrow: @onbeyondwords Yes. I have a hard time revising deeply a manuscript I just finished or taking criticism. Still my pretty baby. #kidlitchat
1:29 am jennymckmoss: My 1st ms: I had many critiques. Complimentary but everyone had diff & contradictory opinions re its issues. Finally I set aside #kidlitchat
1:29 am EgmontGal: I know that my new follower @Auto_auctions will be pleased to learn that Arcadia is my fave contemp play #kidlitchat
1:29 am jennymckmoss: @RebeccAgent Good evening! #kidlitchat
1:29 am RebeccAgent: I know I have a winner when I think. That’s why I’ve rejected everything else, because I was waiting to find this! #kidlitchat
1:29 am AudryT: @tia_bowman Did you consider co-authoring the concept when you found you couldn’t do it yourself? #kidlitchat
1:29 am lyonmartin: @RebeccAgent Hi. :D #kidlitchat
1:29 am KarlaKT: @HeidiRKling Keeps me from giving up—the “lighted smile” factor. #kidlitchat
1:30 am HeidiRKling: @ErinDealey LOL–thanks, Erin! #kidlitchat
1:30 am j_ro333: #kidlitchat I keep everything. There’ve been many times when I’ve used a scene/dialogue/even a character elsewhere.
1:30 am AudryT: @elanaroth As they say, ideas are nothing; execution is everything. #kidlitchat
1:30 am TheAsianAngel: Some stories are Do Not Resuscitate. If you bring them back, it’s like raising the dead, complete with foul stench. #kidlitchat
1:30 am WendySparrow: @onbeyondwords 6 months later it feels more like a sweet-looking cousin who you can tell is dressed funny and hair is too short #kidlitchat
1:30 am j_ro333: #kidlitchat I’ve even crossed over using stuff that didn’t work in a book and put it in a movie and vice versatile.
1:31 am ErinDealey: @RebeccAgent Like I told @jennymckmoss , they’re tweeting at warp-speed tonight thanks to @gregpincus ! #kidlitchat
1:31 am Becky_Levine: RT @RebeccAgent: I know I have a winner when I think. Thats why Ive rejected everything else, ’cause I was waiting to find this! #kidlitchat
1:31 am thunderchikin: RT @TheAsianAngel: Some stories are Do Not Resuscitate. If you bring them back, it’s like raising the dead, complete with foul stench. #kidlitchat
1:31 am cjomololu: @RebeccAgent And that’s what every writer wants to be! #kidlitchat
1:31 am jennymckmoss: I lifted a phrase out of my unsold ms and put it in a diff book – even tho I wrote it, still felt wrong. ;) #kidlitchat
1:31 am srjohannes: @j_ro333 i was just about to sat that – books have died but Ive used parts. #kidlitchat
1:31 am adamselzer: In any given year, I end up with 2-3 proposals and maybe one full book that get used for parts. #kidlitchat
1:31 am cjomololu: @RebeccAgent And that’s what ever writer wants to be! #kidlitchat
1:31 am TaraLazar: I keep everything–computers are wonderful for that! Who knows if old stories will be useful someday. If only for a laugh! #kidlitchat
1:31 am ErinDealey: @HeidiRKling You go, girl. Loaf 4ever #kidlitchat
1:31 am elanaroth: When I think I’ve found something, I get this “Oooh! Ooh!” reaction. Then I start gushing to friends. That’s my poker tell. #kidlitchat
1:31 am the_familiars: RT @elanaroth As they say, ideas are nothing; execution is everything. –> I totally disagree. I think idea is 50% at least. #kidlitchat
1:31 am LiaKeyes: @authorViviAnna Wow, that must have been so hard. How long did you work on it? #kidlitchat
1:32 am LaFabuliste: I have passages I keep in a drawer, saving them for the right spot in an ms. #kidlitchat
1:32 am sandyfussell: I love my first ever ms in my bottom drawer. I feel in time I can revisit and make it work. I’ll never give up on it. #kidlitchat
1:32 am elanaroth: I should add: these are often friends who usually don’t give a crap. #kidlitchat
1:32 am RebeccAgent: know have winner when feels like it only could have come from the brain of that writer(or illus) yet feels timeless & universal #kidlitchat
1:32 am EgmontGal: @elanaroth yes. People who’ve good ideas but their writing is not up to par, and you can’t give idea to someone else. Big bummer #kidlitchat
1:32 am Tiare75: @TheAsianAngel LOL! Yes, I’ve put a DNR order on my practice novel #kidlitchat
1:32 am tia_bowman: @AudryT Yes! I’ve recently started collaborating more. It has led to 2 of my stories getting finished. I highly recommend it! #kidlitchat
1:32 am BookEditorLM: RT @RebeccAgent: know have winner when feels like it only could have come from the brain of that writer(or illus) yet feels timeless & universal #kidlitchat
1:33 am adamselzer: @the_familiars The Idea is very important, but one isn’t nearly enough. You need at least one good one per page. #kidlitchat
1:33 am srjohannes: @TaraLazar can you imagine before computers trying to keep all the papers? ugh! #kidlitchat
1:33 am elanaroth: @EgmontGal OMG that’s the worst. I wish I could have passed along a few of these ideas to better writers! #kidlitchat
1:33 am WendySparrow: RT @RebeccAgent: know have winner when feels like it only could have come from the brain of that writer(or illus) yet feels timeless & universal #kidlitchat
1:33 am onbeyondwords: @WendySparrow Ha ha! Or maybe the goofy cousin’s hair is too long and you now have the vision to cut and restyle it. #kidlitchat
1:33 am EgmontUSA: @elanaroth I feel that way, too. I always say I’m going to keep my mouth shut and not jinx it, but it’s so hard when I’m excited #kidlitchat
1:33 am TaraLazar: Didn’t Jerry Spinelli revive EGGS after years of it sitting in a closet? He became a better writer and went back. #kidlitchat
1:33 am Shelltex: I took characters from a my first attempt at a novel and gave them a whole new story. They were good together. That plot wasn’t. #kidlitchat
1:33 am j_ro333: #kidlitchat My film producer and I have a quote we use before every meeting: Execution Dependent.
1:33 am HeidiRKling: Wanting more-edge-of-seat reactions are positive. Boredom, checking texts while you read? Not as good. #kidlitchat
1:33 am Becky_Levine: Idea has to be turned into serious, active goals with concrete obstacles to create conflict. #kidlitchat
1:33 am BookEditorLM: RT @sandyfussell: I love my first ever ms in my bottom drawer. I feel in time I can revisit and make it work. I’ll never give up on it. #kidlitchat
1:33 am TaraLazar: And Neil Gaiman started on the idea of THE GRAVEYARD BOOK 20 years before he wrote it. He put it away for when he became better. #kidlitchat
1:33 am TheAsianAngel: @Tiare75 Those are the “cadavers” you dissect and examine to see what went wrong. #kidlitchat
1:34 am EgmontGal: @elanaroth is so right. when we rush in to tell our colleagues about it, very very good sign #kidlitchat
1:34 am ErinDealey: @EgmontGal @elanaroth so good idea+ voice + care abt char + chills + don’t want to watch #Glee? #kidlitchat
1:34 am WendySparrow: @onbeyondwords Exactly… you know where to trim the excess without ruining the personality or the concept. Perspective. #kidlitchat
1:34 am jennymckmoss: Interesting RT @EgmontGal @elanaroth People who’ve good ideas but writing isnt up to par & u can’t give idea 2 someone else #kidlitchat
1:34 am kdueykduey: @Shelltex I wonder if you had to write the first novel to get to know the characters…#kidlitchat
1:34 am AudryT: There you go. RT@j_ro333: #kidlitchat My film producer and I have a quote we use before every meeting: Execution Dependent. #kidlitchat
1:34 am the_familiars: @adamselzer True you should have wonderful ideas on every page… but it starts with one big concept/hook to sell the book. #kidlitchat
1:34 am ErinDealey: @TaraLazar 20 years? That makes me feel better. : ) #kidlitchat
1:34 am lyonmartin: @srjohannes I did keep all those papers. And all the sketches, too. #kidlitchat
1:34 am janiceharayda: Hi, all. I’ve heard many editors say they know they have a winner by the end of the first page, if not the first line … #kidlitchat #books
1:34 am HeidiRKling: @ErinDealey *fistbump* #kidlitchat ;-)
1:34 am Becky_Levine: And every author’s dream! RT @EgmontGal: @elanaroth is right. when we rush in to tell colleagues about it, very very good sign #kidlitchat
1:34 am Natalie_Fischer: I love a winner; I sell a marketable book. It sucks when they aren’t the same. #kidlitchat
1:34 am srjohannes: @EgmontGal what do you do with the ones you are on the fence about? you love them but they are not 100% there. #kidlitchat
1:35 am EgmontGal: @EgmontUSA is very cute when excited by a ms. I can tell she’s trying to contain herself so she won’t be disappointed if we pass #kidlitchat
1:35 am AudryT: @TaraLazar I have an idea I put away until I’m better. Probably 30-40 years better. #kidlitchat
1:35 am j_ro333: I felt this way about The Matrix. RT @elanaroth People who’ve good ideas but writing is not up to par, and you can’t give idea.. #kidlitchat
1:35 am HeidiRKling: @KarlaKT Seriously. And the parts where they look bored? Cut them. I slaughter words left and right now. #kidlitchat
1:35 am kellyhashway: @TaraLazar Didn’t it also come from a short story he wrote earlier? #kidlitchat
1:35 am WendySparrow: RT @Natalie_Fischer: I love a winner; I sell a marketable book. It sucks when they aren’t the same. #kidlitchat
1:35 am bonnieadamson: @TaraLazar Ta da! See? never give up on a ms. It can morph into something better when YOU’RE better. RT Neil Gaiman & Graveyard #kidlitchat
1:35 am deegarretson: sometimes you can’t see what’s wrong with one manuscript until you write the next one #kidlitchat
1:35 am jafhedlund: I write PBs, but I have an idea for a novel but I’m afraid to write it b/c so many people say your first novel is for “practice” #kidlitchat
1:35 am TaraLazar: An agent who was excited about my ms sent an email hours later and called the next day, an hour earlier than he said he would. #kidlitchat
1:35 am AudryT: Hooks are overrated, IMO. There are fantastic books out there that don’t start with a hook. #kidlitchat
1:36 am cjomololu: @the_familiars Hooks help. I got as far as: “It’s about a girl whose mother is a hoarder..” b4 agent was all in. #kidlitchat
1:36 am jafhedlund: but I love the idea and I don’t want it to be my practice one. Maybe I should write another one first – lol #kidlitchat
1:36 am Shelltex: @kdueykduey Probably so. Only got about halfway through first time before that story died. But I was in love with those kids. #kidlitchat
1:36 am EgmontGal: @WendySparrow As Liza Minelli sang, “everybody loves a winner…” #kidlitchat
1:36 am tia_bowman: Sometimes waiting is the best thing you can do. Let the story flesh itself out, and it will always end up better. #kidlitchat
1:36 am bonnieadamson: @TaraLazar Wow–THAT’s validation! #kidlitchat
1:36 am TaraLazar: @jafhedlund But if you don’t write the first one, you’ll never have ONE, period! (Write away! Right away!) #kidlitchat
1:36 am Becky_Levine: @jafhedlund But if you don’t do the practice, you’ll miss the chance to move on to Book 2! ;) #kidlitchat
1:36 am j_ro333: Marketable always wins. RT @Natalie_Fischer: I love a winner; I sell a marketable book. It sucks when they aren’t the same. #kidlitchat
1:36 am VBTremper: @EgmontUSA Good to know writers aren’t the only ones who worry about jinxing. #kidlitchat
1:36 am MaricarMac: keeping this in mind RT @adamselzer The Idea is very important, but 1 isn’t nearly enough. You need at least 1 good 1 per page #kidlitchat
1:36 am gregpincus: @jafhedlund Then just pretend it’s your second one! #kidlitchat
1:36 am onbeyondwords: RT @RebeccAgent a winner seems it only could have come from the brain of that writer(or illus) yet feels timeless & universal #kidlitchat
1:36 am elanaroth: @AudryT A hook is just as simple as knowing where your story is. So many writers don’t even know that. #kidlitchat
1:37 am EgmontGal: @cjomololu A hoarding book! We’ve been looking for one. But just because we like the hook, we still have to like the ms too #kidlitchat
1:37 am the_familiars: @AudryT If I were to give advice to first time writer, I think they have a better chance getting foot in door with big hook. #kidlitchat
1:37 am WriterRoss: RT @gregpincus: @jafhedlund Then just pretend its your second one! #kidlitchat
1:37 am deegarretson: @cjomololu agree-it was the hook that got me in the door #kidlitchat
1:37 am jafhedlund: @TaraLazar @gregpincus Good advice. Never have one if you don’t write one. Pretend it’s second one. #kidlitchat
1:37 am WendySparrow: @Natalie_Fischer @elanaroth What % of agents help with editing before pitching? I thought all did, but that’s not true, right? #kidlitchat
1:37 am bonnieadamson: @jafhedlund Write it; then rewrite it & call it Number 2! #kidlitchat
1:37 am KarlaKT: @HeidiRKling Amen…can’t get too attached to the “pretties.” Can’t wait until summer when I can write full-time… #kidlitchat
1:37 am patricemichelle: RE: Agents excited about a project. It only takes one YES to get you one step further, hopefully to an editor who says yes too. #kidlitchat
1:37 am bonnieadamson: RT @elanaroth: @AudryT A hook is just as simple as knowing where your story is. So many writers dont even know that. #kidlitchat
1:38 am tia_bowman: @adamselzer So true! You need more than one good idea for a novel, otherwise it ends up flat. #kidlitchat
1:38 am Becky_Levine: @jafhedlund Or go in “knowing” that you are going to be the exception that proves the rule! #kidlitchat
1:38 am MaricarMac: RT @Becky_Levine Idea has to be turned into serious, active goals with concrete obstacles to create conflict. #kidlitchat
1:38 am BookEditorLM: RT @WendySparrow: @Natalie_Fischer @elanaroth What % of agents help with editing before pitching? I thought all did, but that’s not true, right? #kidlitchat
1:38 am hpinski: Or three…or four? RT @bonnieadamson: @jafhedlund Write it; then rewrite it & call it Number 2! #kidlitchat
1:38 am cjomololu: @EgmontGal True. My book is out- Dirty Little Secrets. But I’d love to see more on the subject… #kidlitchat
1:38 am sandyfussell: @jafhedlund Maybe it will be practice. Maybe not. Just write it and find out. A good idea will demand to be written anyway #kidlitchat
1:38 am AudryT: @the_familiars My advice to a first-time writer would be to focus on improving their writing. Hooks can suck, too. #kidlitchat
1:38 am HeidiRKling: @KarlaKT Oh, I leave all my pretties in. I just got the crappy stuff. LOL #kidlitchat
1:38 am TheAsianAngel: The hook is what differentiates your story from everything else along a similar vein. #kidlitchat
1:38 am EgmontGal: @the_familiars Not sure I agree. Advice to 1st time writer, big hook? Prefer great characters + writing + hope other can follow #kidlitchat
1:38 am Becky_Levine: @MaricarMac Thanks for the RT. :) #kidlitchat
1:38 am cjomololu: @deegarretson A good hook is awesome, as long as you can back it up. #kidlitchat
1:39 am jennymckmoss: Agents&Editors: If u get ms w/ character/plot issues but u see something in the writing that intrigues you, how do you respond? #kidlitchat
1:39 am Natalie_Fischer: @WendySparrow Varies; hard to give %. A lot do, but it varies to what extent too! #kidlitchat
1:39 am WendySparrow: @EgmontGal My daughter is a hoarder (clinical) as was my grandfather. I’ve had several writers asking me advice.They’re coming #kidlitchat
1:39 am elanaroth: I think I missed a tweet or two…if I missed a question, ask me again. #kidlitchat
1:39 am LaFabuliste: Yes! The 30-second blurb that makes me buy IT instead of the other. #kidlitchat
1:39 am LiaKeyes: I feel like I’ve written four books instead of one, because it has morphed so dramatically each time I edited it #kidlitchat
1:39 am EgmontGal: @cjomololu Thanks for reminding me, I have been wanting to read your book. sounds right up my alley! #kidlitchat
1:39 am ErinDealey: Last Feb. at SCBWI Golden Gate Sarah Davies (Greenhouse lit) said hook=kernel of the story. Ken Wright said,”You cry, you buy.” #kidlitchat
1:39 am CarolTanzman: @Asian Angel but sometimes a “hook” is just a good log line. #kidlitchat
1:39 am kdueykduey: @EgmontGal I have a hoarding themed thing…but just in the notes and wishes stage.The topic/premise could be amazing, I think. #kidlitchat
1:39 am RebeccAgent: I know I have a winner when I read the MS and think “this is a real writer” #kidlitchat
1:40 am deegarretson: @elanaroth yes, it’s frustrating trying to help new writers when they can’t pull out the essence of the story #kidlitchat
1:40 am j_ro333: @lyonmartin #kidlitchat No biggie I’m hard on myself and keep chopping until it’s right. Good thing, really.
1:40 am sandyfussell: To me the hook comes from the story. It’s a natural derivative not something I agonise over constructing #kidlitchat
1:40 am cjomololu: @EgmontGal Sorry! Wasn’t trying to pitch. Don’t read while eating is my best advice ;) #kidlitchat
1:40 am EgmontGal: @srjohannes If we can “see” the book and know we can help writer get there, we buy. We are editors, after all #kidlitchat
1:40 am Becky_Levine: Me–I laugh, I buy. RT @ErinDealey: At SCBWI GG Sarah Davies said hook=kernel of the story. Ken Wright said,”You cry, you buy.” #kidlitchat
1:40 am tia_bowman: What is considered a ‘hook’? Are the blurbs on the back of a book/inside cover considered good examples of hooks? #kidlitchat
1:40 am lyonmartin: I think I need more kidlit TV shows. Blood guts and gore are freek’n me out. #kidlitchat
1:40 am the_familiars: @AudryT @EdgmontGal If you have 50 MS in a pile on your desk with cover letters, wouldn’t you read the one with best idea first? #kidlitchat
1:41 am BookEditorLM: RT @EgmontGal: @srjohannes If we can “see” the book and know we can help writer get there, we buy. We are editors, after all #kidlitchat
1:41 am gregpincus: @kdueykduey @EgmontGal I have thousands of hoarding ideas, but still gathering more. Is that a problem? #kidlitchat
1:41 am jennymckmoss: I have this response as a reader RT @RebeccAgent: I know I have a winner when I read the MS and think “this is a real writer” #kidlitchat
1:41 am LaFabuliste: Should the hook be related to what first “hooked” me about the idea? That flash image that made me want to write. #kidlitchat
1:41 am ErinDealey: Also at SCBWI Golden Gate, besides @gregpincus, ed Tracy Gates (Viking) Hook=”If you miss your subway stop.” #kidlitchat
1:41 am BookEditorLM: RT @RebeccAgent: I know I have a winner when I read the MS and think “this is a real writer” #kidlitchat
1:41 am kdueykduey: @Shelltex The characters are always the hub for me, even though I often write fantasy. #kidlitchat
1:41 am the_familiars: RT @gregpincus: @kdueykduey @EgmontGal I have thousands of hoarding ideas, but still gathering more. Is that a problem? #kidlitchat
1:41 am srjohannes: that was laugh out loud hilarious.RT @EgmontGal I have thousands of hoarding ideas, but still gathering more. Is that a problem? #kidlitchat
1:41 am emilytastic: Hello! I am late! And all overexcited from allergy pills. WHAT IS UP? #kidlitchat
1:42 am CarolTanzman: Yay!RT @EgmontGal: @srjohannes If we can “see” the book and know we can help writer get there, we buy. We are editors, after all #kidlitchat
1:42 am cjomololu: @gregpincus He’ll be here all week folks! #kidlitchat
1:42 am j_ro333: @taralazar #kidlitchat 1 Guy said he expected it to sell within the next year or so, but it wasn’t for him.I was repped about 4 weeks later
1:42 am goldenwordsmith: RT @LiaKeyes: I feel like I’ve written four books instead of one, because it has morphed so dramatically each time I edited it #kidlitchat
1:42 am TheAsianAngel: Right, but there’s a twist in it that makes it different! RT @CarolTanzman: but sometimes a “hook” is just a good log line. #kidlitchat
1:42 am WendySparrow: RT @gregpincus: @kdueykduey @EgmontGal I have thousands of hoarding ideas, but still gathering more. Is that a problem? #kidlitchat
1:42 am kdueykduey: @gregpincus Oh, Greg, how I love you….#kidlitchat
1:42 am ErinDealey: @emilytastic overexcited from allergy pills *You’ll fit right in! ; ) #kidlitchat
1:42 am sandyfussell: Wonder too RT @tia_bowman: What is considered a hook? Are blurbs on back of a book/inside cover considered good egs of hooks? #kidlitchat
1:42 am RebeccAgent: my asst famously sat at end of train line 15 min after car cleared reading @triciarayburn‘s SIREN ms #kidlitchat
1:42 am elanaroth: Just to add, whether I edit has nothing to do with thinking I’ve found “it”. I edit anyway. “It” is never perfect. #kidlitchat
1:43 am BookEditorLM: RT @LiaKeyes: I feel like I’ve written four books instead of one, because it has morphed so dramatically each time I edited it #kidlitchat
1:43 am j_ro333: @taralazar #kidlitchat Never understand someone thinking a product can sell and not wantingto be a part of that.Guess I’m a businessman 1st
1:43 am WendySparrow: @gregpincus LOL. RE: hoarding ideas… just don’t let them get stinky. ; ) #kidlitchat
1:43 am goldenwordsmith: RT @EgmontGal: @the_familiars Not sure I agree. Advice to 1st time writer, big hook? Prefer great characters + writing + hope other can follow #kidlitchat
1:43 am jennymckmoss: RT @elanaroth: Just to add, whether I edit has nothing to do with thinking Ive found “it”. I edit anyway. “It” is never perfect. #kidlitchat
1:43 am sandyfussell: Me too. Characters key. RT @kdueykduey: @Shelltex The characters are always the hub for me, even though I often write fantasy. #kidlitchat
1:43 am PaulWHankins: @EgmontGal Out of lurk mode for just a second. The INcK has loved Ditry Little Secrets by @cjomololu. Great read. #kidlitchat
1:43 am ImaginingLily: @ErinDealey Oooooh I like that “You cry, you buy” stuff. (Ken Wright) #kidlitchat
1:44 am Sascha_Zuger: @EgmontGal I have 482 copies or so of @cjomololu ‘s book stacked in my back room if you want to borrow one. #kidlitchat
1:44 am cjomololu: @PaulWHankins Aw Paul. You’re the winner! #kidlitchat
1:44 am the_familiars: @sandyfussell @tia_bowman Absolutely, yes. If you can pitch your idea in similar fashion, you are farther along than most (IMO) #kidlitchat
1:44 am TheScribesDesk: RT @EgmontGal: @the_familiars Not sure I agree. Advice to 1st time writer, big hook? Prefer great characters + writing + hope other can follow #kidlitchat
1:44 am CarolTanzman: Yes, excellent point. RT @TheAsianAngel: Right, but theres a twist in it that makes it different! #kidlitchat
1:44 am EgmontGal: @Sascha_Zuger yes, i’d love to borrow it! #kidlitchat
1:44 am gregpincus: Agreed! RT @PaulWHankins: The INcK has loved Ditry Little Secrets by @cjomololu. Great read. #kidlitchat
1:44 am HeidiRKling: RT @PaulWHankins: @EgmontGal Out of lurk mode for just a second. The INcK has loved Ditry Little Secrets by @cjomololu. Great read. #kidlitchat
1:44 am RebeccAgent: the proposal for Matt Phelan’s 3rd gn made me cry. Not b/c it was sad… b/c it’s just so freakin good #kidlitchat
1:44 am lyonmartin: I know I have a winner if my book isn’t like any of the ones I read. WIP Not quite there yet. Still looking for the “new” 4 it. #kidlitchat
1:44 am cjomololu: @Sascha_Zuger Good to see you’re purging. #kidlitchat
1:45 am onbeyondwords: @ErinDealey Crying is a good sign. Laughing isn’t bad either. #kidlitchat
1:45 am mrswritebrain: #kidlitchat Jumping in late. Is the topic hoarding, hooks or both? :)
1:45 am EgmontGal: RT @gregpincus: @kdueykduey @EgmontGal I have thousands of hoarding ideas, but still gathering more. Is that a problem? #kidlitchat
1:45 am TaraLazar: @j_ro333 I think it boils down to passion. You can like something, recognize its merits, but not feel passionate enough to SELL. #kidlitchat
1:45 am bonnieadamson: @mrswritebrain TOPIC: What tells you that you?ve written a winner (or found one to acquire)? Voice? Hook? Character? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1:45 am emilytastic: @ErinDealey Haha, yes. I’m normally a very talkative/jumpy/exciteable type, but I’m extra-ly so this evening! #kidlitchat
1:45 am cjomololu: @onbeyondwords Laughing isn’t great if you don’t intend it to be funny. #kidlitchat
1:46 am gregpincus: It’s interesting that from all sides knowing a “winner” is more of an emotional reaction than anything else #kidlitchat
1:46 am AudryT: Topic is knowing when you have a winner. #kidlitchat
1:46 am EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent yes, the “I missed my subway stop” sign is a very, very good one. And it means I end up in Queens. #kidlitchat
1:46 am hpinski: Great characters, plot et al, then you have a great hook, no? #kidlitchat
1:46 am TheAsianAngel: Haha! Good point. RT @cjomololu: @onbeyondwords Laughing isnt great if you don’t intend it to be funny. #kidlitchat
1:46 am ErinDealey: @onbeyondwords In theater you learn to suck them in with laughter and keep them there with tears. #kidlitchat
1:46 am Becky_Levine: @gregpincus And the magic is managing to evoke that emotional reaction. #kidlitchat
1:46 am debbieohi: RT @gregpincus: It’s interesting that from all sides knowing a “winner” is more of an emotional reaction than anything else. #kidlitchat
1:46 am Natalie_Fischer: Also to add, sometimes I edit b/c I’m on the fence and want to see if it gets better/writer takes direction well #kidlitchat
1:46 am WriterRoss: @cjomololu She said she can borrow the bk. She wants it back. ;> (An obsessed hoarder never gives away anything.) #kidlitchat
1:47 am emilytastic: @EgmontGal @kdueykduey @gregpincus My mom called a few wks & said she thinks I’m a secret hoarder. I’m going to write THAT book. #kidlitchat
1:47 am cjomololu: “Winner” doesn’t always translate into ‘bestseller’. Some of the best books are under the radar. #kidlitchat
1:47 am LiaKeyes: RT @gregpincus: Its interesting that from all sides knowing a “winner” is more of an emotional reaction than anything else #kidlitchat
1:47 am kdueykduey: RE hoarding: Holly Black’s The White Cat has that element, and a fabulous premise overlayered–a wonderful book. #kidlitchat
1:47 am elanaroth: Anything I’ve signed, I’ve read almost straight through without stopping. #kidlitchat
1:47 am PattyJMurphy: RT @EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent yes, the “I missed my subway stop” sign is a very, very good one. And it means I end up in Queens. #kidlitchat
1:47 am patricemichelle: Seems a “winner” aspect all comes down to connection – whatever that entails for the reader and the writer. #kidlitchat
1:47 am sandyfussell: RT @cjomololu: “Winner” doesn’t always translate into ‘bestseller’. Some of the best books are under the radar. #kidlitchat
1:47 am deegarretson: @hpinski in my case, I start with the hook and then the characters develop from that. #kidlitchat
1:47 am debbieohi: Sorry, have to multitask during this chat (workstuff). Looking forward to reading the transcript! #kidlitchat
1:47 am lyonmartin: @EgmontGal If I missed my stop I ended up in the Bronx. Did it once, was careful not to repeat THAT. #kidlitchat
1:47 am MissCackle: Always the case? @gregpincus … knowing a “winner” is more of an emotional reaction than anything else #kidlitchat
1:47 am onbeyondwords: @cjomololu Probably not – but if humor was intended – it’s a great way to make characters endearing. #kidlitchat
1:47 am j_ro333: Then it’s almost ready :) RT @LiaKeyes: I feel like I’ve written 4 books not 1, cause it morphed dramatically each time I edited #kidlitchat
1:47 am CarolTanzman: not always sure about a winner when I write. RT @gregpincus: knowing a “winner” is more of an emotional reaction #kidlitchat
1:47 am EgmontGal: When I was preteen, I liked heavy subjects in YA cause I found them glamorous.I like hoarders because I feel better ’bout myself #kidlitchat
1:47 am JessicaLeader: @ErinDealey Ooh! I knew theatre was good for something! #kidlitchat
1:47 am tia_bowman: Awesome example! RT @ErinDealey In theater you learn to suck them in with laughter and keep them there with tears. #kidlitchat
1:47 am HeidiRKling: RT @cjomololu: “Winner” doesn’t always translate into ‘bestseller’. Some of the best books are under the radar. #kidlitchat
1:47 am Irisheyz77: RT @cjomololu: “Winner” doesn’t always translate into ‘bestseller’. Some of the best books are under the radar. #kidlitchat
1:48 am hpinski: RT @cjomololu: “Winner” doesnt always translate into bestseller. Some of the best books are under the radar. #kidlitchat
1:48 am LiaKeyes: @kdueykduey I’ve heard a lot of great things about Holly Black’s WHITE CAT. Must get a copy… #kidlitchat
1:48 am AudryT: When I was picking manga, I felt I had a winner when the art style, pacing, premise, character design & humor hit the sweet spot #kidlitchat
1:48 am cjomololu: @EgmontGal That’s why I watch Toddlers and Tiaras. Instant “good mother” feeling. #kidlitchat
1:48 am jafhedlund: Andrea Brown said at Big Sur in the Rockies this weekend: “If you make me laugh or cry, I’ll sell it, if you make me do both… #kidlitchat
1:48 am gregpincus: @misscackle Probably not always the case. But that reaction is in our control whereas knowing we’ll “sell gobs” is not. #kidlitchat
1:48 am jafhedlund: I’ll put it up for auction.” (Andrea Brown) #kidlitchat
1:49 am kdueykduey: @gregpincus for me, there is a little click, like something sliding into place, and I know it’s done–or very close. #kidlitchat
1:49 am leira_carola: RT @RebeccAgent: know have winner when feels like it only could have come from the brain of that writer(or illus) yet feels timeless & universal #kidlitchat
1:49 am LiaKeyes: @j_ro333 Ha! Let’s hope so! I’ve promised it to my agent by June 24th… #kidlitchat
1:49 am WendySparrow: RT @elanaroth: Anything I’ve signed, I’ve read almost straight through without stopping. #kidlitchat
1:49 am ErinDealey: @JessicaLeader Theater’s good for lots of things–including school visits after the winner is pubbed! #kidlitchat
1:49 am deegarretson: @cjomololu LOL! I never thought about it, but that’s so true! #kidlitchat
1:49 am EgmontGal: @cjomololu I am drawn to “Sober House” for the same reason. Makes problems of too many YA paranormals seem sooooo small #kidlitchat
1:49 am jennymckmoss: @kdueykduey Can I borrow that little click? ;) #kidlitchat
1:50 am cjomololu: @EgmontGal God bless ‘reality’ TV. #kidlitchat
1:50 am onbeyondwords: Great strategy RT @ErinDealey – suck them in with laughter keep them there with tears #kidlitchat
1:50 am Natalie_Fischer: winner=subjective imo #kidlitchat
1:50 am kdueykduey: @LiaKeyes I got to read it in ms (she read mine, incredibly helpful) and I LOVED it. Holly is a really precise writer. #kidlitchat
1:50 am gregpincus: RT @kdueykduey: for me, there is a little click, like something sliding into place, and I know it’s done–or very close. #kidlitchat
1:50 am srjohannes: RT @jafhedlund: Andrea Brown said at Big Sur “If u make me laugh or cry, Ill sell it, if u do both…i’ll sell it at auction!” #kidlitchat
1:50 am LiaKeyes: RT @EgmontGal: @cjomololu I’m drawn to “Sober House” for same reason. Makes problems of too many YA paranormals seem soooo small #kidlitchat
1:51 am adamselzer: @EgmontGal eh, NO ONE has problems like YA paranormals. No “real” person has a problem that won’t be over for em in 90 years. #kidlitchat
1:51 am kdueykduey: @jennymckmoss Yes, the click is freeware…..#kidlitchat
1:51 am Sascha_Zuger: @EgmontGal I tivo it to watch while I pack. #kidlitchat
1:51 am j_ro333: @taralazar #kidlitchat Like I said- I’m all business.I’m passionate about anything if I think it’s gonna sell.Hell-I’d have repped Dan Brown
1:51 am jennymckmoss: @kdueykduey :) #kidlitchat
1:51 am sandyfussell: I feel like it’s a winner when I get really good feedback from kids who borrowed it from the library #kidlitchat
1:51 am LiaKeyes: @kdueykduey Do you think Holly Black’s precision as a writer is born of experience? Or was she always that way? #kidlitchat
1:52 am onbeyondwords: @sandyfussell I have a similar first manuscript-in-waiting. I imagine many of us do. #kidlitchat
1:52 am Becky_Levine: Off to download now. RT @kdueykduey: @jennymckmoss Yes, the click is freeware…..#kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1:52 am j_ro333: RT @srjohannes: RT @jafhedlund: Andrea Brown said at Big Sur “If u make me laugh or cry, Ill sell it, if u do both…i’ll sell it at auction!” #kidlitchat
1:52 am ErinDealey: Sign me up! @kdueykduey @jennymckmoss Yes, the click is freeware….. #kidlitchat
1:52 am cjomololu: Dang it. Chatting + cooking = smoke detectors screaming. #kidlitchat
1:52 am PaulWHankins: @JessicaLeader I’ll ask here as I know you won’t say no. Can we get you back @ SCHS in fall to pitch/give away Nice and Mean? #kidlitchat
1:53 am TaraLazar: @j_ro333 I think you have a potential career replacing Billy Mays! #kidlitchat
1:53 am jennymckmoss: @cjomololu Oh, no! #kidlitchat
1:53 am Sarahbear9789: RT @cjomololu: “Winner” doesn’t always translate into ‘bestseller’. Some of the best books are under the radar. #kidlitchat
1:53 am sandyfussell: @onbeyondwords first-love, first-kiss, first-manuscript. *grin* Some things you never forget #kidlitchat
1:53 am ErinDealey: @cjomololu Hope you don’t have a house crammed with flammable stuff. ; ) jk #kidlitchat
1:53 am Tiare75: @cjomololu LOL! Maybe kidlitchat night = sandwiches for dinner? #kidlitchat #Kidlitchat
1:54 am kdueykduey: @adamselzer Adam—brilliantly said. I have a few extended life characters–one is isolated and so SO! alone. #kidlitchat
1:54 am CarolTanzman: off topic. will anyone here be at NYC’ls Jeff. Mkt. Library YA author meet on Mon. 5/24? I will be visiting from L.A. #kidlitchat
1:54 am amberjkeyser: When reading a book I love, I don’t want it to end. When it does, I keep rolling it over and over in my head. #kidlitchat
1:54 am elanaroth: @cjomololu I have intentionally not replaced the batteries in my smoke detector for this reason. #kidlitchat
1:54 am onbeyondwords: @j_ro333 Great Andrea Brown quote. Envy you attending Big Sur. #kidlitchat
1:54 am cjomololu: @ErinDealey Ha! No visible flames. But I didn’t notice the smoke until now. #kidlitchat
1:55 am cjomololu: @elanaroth I’ll have to try that next week. #kidlitchat
1:55 am CarolTanzman: Me, too!RT @amberjkeyser: When reading a book I love, I dont want it to end. When it does, I keep rolling it over in my head. #kidlitchat
1:55 am adamselzer: @kdueykduey And it’ll only get worse when the sun swallows the earth and they’re just floating in space! #kidlitchat
1:55 am LiaKeyes: RT @kdueykduey: @gregpincus 4 me, there is a little click, like something sliding into place, & I know its done–or very close. #kidlitchat
1:55 am WriterRoss: @elanaroth Sheds new light on calling a mss “a book to die for.” #kidlitchat
1:55 am ErinDealey: @cjomololu Do NOT use the Merlot to douse flames… #kidlitchat
1:55 am amberjkeyser: Or like @EgmontGal I re-read. #kidlitchat
1:56 am onbeyondwords: @sandyfussell Haha – absolutely. #kidlitchat
1:56 am kdueykduey: @misscackle I share that. They pry it out of my hands. I could polish forevereverever #kidlitchat
1:56 am jafhedlund: Yes, Big Sur was amazing – highly recommend it, in either Big Sur or the Rockies! #kidlitchat
1:56 am MissCackle: @gregpincus @kdueykduey Gah! I never feel like it’s done! I would edit forever were it not for deadlines! #kidlitchat
1:56 am EbonyMcKenna: have loved reading the chats on #kidlitchat
1:57 am CarolTanzman: RT @MissCackle: @gregpincus @kdueykduey Gah! I never feel like its done! I would edit forever were it not for deadlines! #kidlitchat
1:57 am AudryT: I had an idea once that started with a great hook, but in order to write a great book, I has to toss the hook. Fine with me. #kidlitchat
1:57 am yachicka: enjoyed following tonight! must get back to revisions if i ever hope to finish #amrevising #amwriting #kidlitchat
1:57 am amberjkeyser: This was my first #kidlitchat. Thanks everyone for a great conversation.
1:57 am kdueykduey: @adamselzer I don’t envy you the freefloat. Mine are in an old city, lots of motion, politics, immigrants, etc. #kidlitchat
1:57 am Shelltex: @jafhedlund I second that envy and also love the AB quote. #kidlitchat
1:58 am bonnieadamson: @amberjkeyser Glad you could stop by–come back again! :-) #kidlitchat
1:58 am WendySparrow: @elanaroth Do you expect writers to resubmit different mss (6 months or year later) or do you only want that when requested? #kidlitchat
1:58 am hpinski: @yachicka You can do it, chicka! #kidlitchat
1:58 am EbonyMcKenna: #kidlitchat – if it feels ‘real’ to me, no matter how bizarre the premise.
1:58 am ErinDealey: Shameless plug.You gotta have a hook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYqMA2mPG7I #kidlitchat
1:58 am gregpincus: @amberjkeyser Thanks for joining in! #kidlitchat
1:58 am sandyfussell: @MissCackle Thank goodness for editors. Or I would never stop fiddling with the words and move on. I could revise forever. #kidlitchat
1:59 am kellyhashway: Tonight’s topic makes me want to go spend some time with my new manuscript. My MC is in my head again. Great chat everyone! #kidlitchat
1:59 am elanaroth: @WendySparrow I’m not sure I understand the question… #kidlitchat
1:59 am kdueykduey: People are leaving to go work…being a good example for me…I will try to come earlier next time. #kidlitchat
1:59 am onbeyondwords: @kdueykduey I was a newspaper editor – basically an editing junkie. For me, the struggle is getting the first draft completed. #kidlitchat
1:59 am hpinski: Night all. My ARC of PARANORMALCY is calling. #kidlitchat
1:59 am LiaKeyes: I know I’m reading a winner when the ideas, character and world feel more real than the real world, even when I’m not reading #kidlitchat
1:59 am WriterRoss: Sparks Fly. Lights go off in my head. Asking myself “Did I write this?” Love the feeling of discovering myself all over again. #kidlitchat
1:59 am RebeccAgent: Time for me to watch GLEE. Night all. #kidlitchat
1:59 am Becky_Levine: I’d better head back to some research. Nice chat, everyone. #kidlitchat
2:00 am Tiare75: Terrific chat! Goodnight everyone. #Kidlitchat
2:00 am ImaginingLily: @amberjkeyser Ah yes, me too. And I start reading so s-l-o-w-l-y. #kidlitchat
2:00 am WriterRoss: (humming song “Hooked on a Feeling” while I type) #kidlitchat
2:00 am patricemichelle: Night everyone. Great chat! #kidlitchat
2:00 am ErinDealey: @RebeccAgent Lucky! I have to wait another hour! #Glee #kidlitchat
2:00 am amberjkeyser: Oooh yes, @WriterRoss. Sometimes I surprise myself! #kidlitchat
2:00 am onbeyondwords: Goodnight, good chat. Thank you everyone. #kidlitchat
2:00 am WendySparrow: @elanaroth I’m about a year into this- I’m wondering if I’m “okay” to query agents I queried with a previous mss a year ago. #kidlitchat
2:00 am emilytastic: Sorry I missed so much of the chat tonight! I’m super distracted at the mo. But, just FYI, I love you all! <3 #kidlitchat
2:01 am the_familiars: @AudryT You are a hook hater. #kidlitchat
2:01 am elanaroth: @WendySparrow Yes. You totally can. It’s a new book. #kidlitchat
2:01 am ErinDealey: Thanks @gregpincus and @bonnieadamson! Ciao to all! #kidlitchat
2:01 am gregpincus: Thanks to all for joining in #kidlitchat tonight. Felt like a winner, but maybe we won’t know til the transcript is up….
2:01 am LaFabuliste: Glee is over, so I can focus now. Where are we? #kidlitchat
2:01 am WendySparrow: @elanaroth … or do you only want that if you’ve said “I’d like if you thought of me in the future” etc. #kidlitchat
2:01 am jafhedlund: Another priceless Andrea Brown quote: http://wp.me/pIkHt-zw She has some real zingers. I loved her! #kidlitchat
2:01 am KarlaKT: Love the aha when a new twist turns a scene I like into one that resonates #kidlitchat
2:01 am bonnieadamson: Thanks for all the winner wisdom. This was fun. See you next week! #kidlitchat

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