Kidlitchat Transcript – March 30

1:00 am kidlitchat: TOPIC: Sequels and updates and mashups, oh my! Which work; why; and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat
1:00 am bonnieadamson: TOPIC: Sequels and updates and mashups, oh my! Which work; why; and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat
1:00 am EgmontUSA: Hi! I’m here. I’ve also convinced fantabulous @Sascha_Zuger to stop by. #kidlitchat
1:00 am gregpincus: TOPIC: Sequels and updates and mashups, oh my. Which work, why, and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat
1:00 am Buffyandrews: Hi everyone! *waves* #kidlitchat
1:00 am EgmontUSA: @bonnieadamson You are going to get me into so much trouble with this topic! #kidlitchat
1:01 am barb_q_dell: RT @bonnieadamson: TOPIC: Sequels and updates and mashups, oh my! Which work; why; and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat
1:01 am bonnieadamson: @EgmontUSA How so? #kidlitchat
1:01 am JennBailey: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: Sequels and updates and mashups, oh my. Which work, why, and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat
1:02 am adamselzer: Offhand I can’t think of many modern sequels to classic books or mashups that work so well past the novelty factor. #kidlitchat
1:02 am KOrtizzle: I’m lurking… #kidlitchat
1:02 am mumfusa: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: Sequels and updates and mashups, oh my. Which work, why, and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat
1:02 am lauram68: @gregpincus first off the Mashups are becoming annoying. #kidlitchat
1:02 am Sascha_Zuger: Hi all –first timer here, I write grownuppy stuff under my own name, YAs under “Aimee Ferris”-The lovely @EgmontUSA brought me. #kidlitchat
1:03 am jamieharrington: @KOrtizzle lurker…. #kidlitchat
1:03 am EgmontUSA: @bonnieadamson It’s the updates. I’ll have this desire to plug. I’ll try to be good. #kidlitchat
1:03 am comagrrl: I’m here for a while. What’s the topic? #kidlitchat
1:03 am ChrisRivan: #kidlitchat Frankly, the only sequels that really work are preplanned ones like the Harry Potter and Percy Jackson series.
1:03 am jamieharrington: @Sascha_Zuger welcome! We’re always excited to have new faces! #kidlitchat
1:03 am ChrisRivan: #kidlitchat Example of a mashup, please? I can’t think of one off the top of my head.
1:04 am comagrrl: Mashups = meh #kidlitchat
1:04 am bonnieadamson: @EgmontUSA Oh, that’s no fun. You may plug! #kidlitchat
1:04 am dlschubert: Howdy, y’all! What’s shaking? #kidlitchat
1:04 am ChrisRivan: RT @mumfusa: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: Sequels and updates and mashups, oh my. Which work, why, and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat
1:04 am crissachappell: sequels? classics? just say no #kidlitchat
1:04 am PaulWHankins: Perhaps more than mash-ups are conscious connections between contemporaries + the canon. Think Reading Ladders by @professornana #kidlitchat
1:04 am mumfusa: @ChrisRivan i can only think of pride & prejudice & zombies. #kidlitchat
1:05 am jamieharrington: @ChrisRivan ohhh I LOVE a good sequel because I never want to say goodbye to the characters #kidlitchat
1:05 am bonnieadamson: @dlschubert Sequels and mashups–what works? #kidlitchat
1:05 am comagrrl: I’d like to see an Anne of Green Gables mashup. Ok, so maybe not. #kidlitchat
1:05 am ChrisRivan: #kidlitchat We should totally write a sequel to “Death of a Salesman” but Willie Loman isn’t dead, he’s an alien. And he has a robot dog.
1:05 am bonnieadamson: I haven’t read any of the Jane Austen mashups–any good? #kidlitchat
1:05 am adamselzer: I think I’ll write “The Pickwick Papers 2: The Wellering” #kidlitchat
1:05 am barb_q_dell: RT: Yeah like P&P and Zombies? Is that it? @ChrisRivan #kidlitchat Example of a mashup, please? I can’t think of one off the top of my head.
1:05 am jamieharrington: @dlschubert we’re talking updates and sequels, and mashups oh my #kidlitchat
1:05 am mumfusa: @jamieharrington i agree. it’s such a treat to get to revisit characters, worlds…. #kidlitchat
1:05 am chantalkirkland: I love sequels, but mashups, not so much. #kidlitchat
1:06 am onbeyondwords: Finally made it after weeks of truancy from #kidlitchat
1:06 am dlschubert: @bonnieadamson Fresh, new stories? *grin* #kidlitchat
1:06 am ChrisRivan: @mumfusa #kidlitchat Not really a KID or YA though…
1:06 am caitstuff: @ChrisRivan Mashup (and a pretty good one at that): Marley’s Ghost by David Levithan. #kidlitchat
1:06 am bonnieadamson: @comagrrl Oh, no! A of GG is SACRED! #kidlitchat
1:06 am EgmontUSA: Well, maybe one or two little plugs. #kidlitchat
1:06 am chantalkirkland: @ChrisRivan Would that be a mashup or a sequel? Or a squeakedmashpotato? #kidlitchat
1:06 am jamieharrington: @chantalkirkland I’m a fan of updates, though. Recently I read a cute one- Geek Charming #kidlitchat
1:06 am mumfusa: @ChrisRivan true enough. i hit send before i could write, but it’s not YA. oops. #kidlitchat
1:06 am caitstuff: @ChrisRivan I would find a robot dog an improvement to death of a salesman… #kidlitchat
1:06 am adamselzer: Tristram Shandy 2: Even Shandier #kidlitchat
1:06 am bonnieadamson: @dlschubert Storrreeezzzz. #kidlitchat
1:06 am jennwwrites: hi all! *waves* #kidlitchat
1:06 am jamieharrington: @mumfusa what I like too is that you don’t have to spend as much time learning about the world… #kidlitchat
1:06 am EgmontUSA: @lindsayeland‘s SCONES AND SENSIBILITY is a modern day Emma about a girl obsessed w/ P&P and Anne of Green Gables. #kidlitchat
1:07 am DarthFormal: I’d actually like to see more stand alone YA books. There are too many series out #kidlitchat
1:07 am comagrrl: @bonnieadamson I know. But can you imagine if aliens landed in Avonlea. Rachel Lynde would be furious. #kidlitchat
1:07 am caitstuff: So. Much. Lol. RT @adamselzer: Tristram Shandy 2: Even Shandier #kidlitchat
1:07 am chantalkirkland: @jamieharrington Yes, do love the update. #kidlitchat
1:07 am ChrisRivan: #kidlitchat Gotta run. Special lady on the horn.
1:07 am EgmontUSA: @adamselzer Ha! But have you read A Sentimental Journey? It’s like a spin off. #kidlitchat
1:07 am bonnieadamson: @comagrrl hahaha–yes. #kidlitchat
1:08 am mumfusa: @jamieharrington good point. if the author has more books, they can unravel the world slowly, more organically. #kidlitchat
1:08 am chantalkirkland: @DarthFormal You totally need to read Splendor Falls by Rosemary Clement-Moore, then! #kidlitchat
1:08 am bonnieadamson: What’s out there already that works–and why? #kidlitchat
1:08 am hatbooks: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: Sequels , updates, mashups–Which work; why; and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat on NOW!
1:08 am KrisYankee: I’m outta the loop on this topic. : ( #kidlitchat
1:08 am comagrrl: Wow. Totally lovin’ this tweetchat. Sweet. #kidlitchat
1:08 am barb_q_dell: Never thought of it this way, but I guess I wrote a mashup of Hamlet and HCA’s Little Mermaid. #KidLitChat
1:09 am chantalkirkland: @mumfusa That’s part of what I love about a sequel. Or just a spin-off #kidlitchat
1:09 am onbeyondwords: I read PP & Zombies – funny and Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter – clever. have an upcoming Q&A with Seth Grahame-Smith on my blog. #kidlitchat
1:09 am jamieharrington: @mumfusa yeah, but sometimes I hate waiting nine books to find out if something’s going to happen #kidlitchat
1:09 am skodobah: Hi everyone! #kidlitchat
1:09 am AmyBaskin: RT @hatbooks: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: Sequels , updates, mashups–Which work; why; and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat on NOW!
1:09 am ashleymc1477: Hi, I’m new and excited to be here. Thanks for the invite Bonnie. #kidlitchat
1:09 am EgmontUSA: Walter Dean Myers is doing a sizzling update of of Bizet’s CARMEN set in Spanish Harlem. Spring 2011, and it will be hot! #kidlitchat
1:09 am RebeccAgent: i’m here and totally overfed from seder #2 #kidlitchat
1:09 am chantalkirkland: @skodobah Oh, I need to read that! #kidlitchat
1:09 am dlschubert: I love sequels. They’re fun to write and fun to read. #kidlitchat
1:09 am bonnieadamson: @ashleymc1477 Hi, Ashley! :-) #kidlitchat
1:09 am chrstinef: Hi everyone! #kidlitchat
1:09 am caitstuff: To call The Graveyard Book an “update” might be a misnomer… a re-worlding? #kidlitchat
1:10 am jennwwrites: Ditto. I read very few series, though have read some with sequels ——-> RT @KrisYankee: Im outta the loop on this topic. : ( #kidlitchat
1:10 am chantalkirkland: @EgmontUSA Ooh, that sounds NICE. #kidlitchat
1:10 am comagrrl: I’ll admit, I really wanted to love P&P and Zombies but I couldn’t get into it. #kidlitchat
1:10 am skodobah: Does this pertain to my own mashups? #kidlitchat
1:10 am jamieharrington: @EgmontUSA I’d like to see some more updates. It always makes me happy to read a familiar story in a familiar (to me) setting #kidlitchat
1:10 am mumfusa: @jamieharrington yeah 9 books is a bit long. i like trilogies. #kidlitchat
1:10 am dawnbonnevie: Do you think it matters if the reader has never read/heard of the original version? (update/ mashup) #KidLitChat
1:10 am bonnieadamson: @EgmontUSA That does sound like fun. #kidlitchat
1:10 am skodobah: I contemplated mashing two of my WIPs earlier this week. #kidlitchat
1:10 am dlschubert: @RebeccAgent Happy Passover to you and to all who celebrate! #kidlitchat
1:11 am onbeyondwords: There’s a great tradition of mash-ups or updates in literature – e.g. West Side Story = Romeo & Juliet in Spanish Harlem #kidlitchat
1:11 am jamieharrington: @mumfusa I like when there are four books in a series… #kidlitchat
1:11 am chantalkirkland: Trilogies are where it’s at for me…beyond that and I get bored. #kidlitchat
1:11 am bonnieadamson: @skodobah Sure! We’re giving permission to plug tonight. #kidlitchat
1:11 am jamieharrington: @skodobah HAHA I have been there! #kidlitchat
1:11 am EternalStarling: I love reading books in a series because I’ve already fallen in love with the story/characters & want to read more about them. #kidlitchat
1:11 am mumfusa: what about the trend of “companion novels” where the author explores the same world but from a diff character? like? dislike? #kidlitchat
1:11 am skodobah: @bonnieadamson Plug City! LOL! #kidlitchat
1:11 am jamieharrington: @onbeyondwords yes, and that totally works, of course I like Romeo and Juliet set just about anywhere… #kidlitchat
1:11 am onbeyondwords: @skodobah Ha ha – That’s another genre of mash-up #kidlitchat
1:11 am adamselzer: West Side Story and Clueless are examples of good updates: they work largely because they don’t call attention the updatiness. #kidlitchat
1:12 am EgmontUSA: @dawnbonnevie I’ve read “updates” and liked enough to want to go back and read the base book. Creates a new way to access. #kidlitchat
1:12 am jamieharrington: @mumfusa I DISLIKE companion novels. Just tell me the dang story! #kidlitchat
1:12 am skodobah: I have a male POV about a guy involved with 2 sisters, and another that’s kind of apocalyptic. #kidlitchat
1:12 am ashleymc1477: I don’t like long series now, but as a teenager, I LOVED them. #kidlitchat
1:12 am bonnieadamson: That’s a point–is Shakespeare a special case? EVERYONE steals from Shakespeare, right? #kidlitchat
1:12 am jamesburksart: Does it seem that mash ups are just a fad? Clever at first bet then every starts doing it and it loses it novelty.#kidlitchat
1:12 am caitstuff: I’m okay with 4+ series books if it’s a fantastical world. But if the setting is predictable, the plot often becomes so too. #kidlitchat
1:12 am Sascha_Zuger: Updates to classics seem somehow more respectful than someone else trying to write a sequel long after the first. #kidlitchat
1:12 am jennwwrites: Yes! RT @mumfusa: what about the trend of “companion novels” where the author explores the same world but from a diff character? #kidlitchat
1:13 am jamieharrington: @EternalStarling that’s how I feel. I don’t have to fall in love with them all over again, so I get into the story sooner #kidlitchat
1:13 am chantalkirkland: @mumfusa I don’t care for ‘companion novels’ like the novella that came out today – not my thing, really. #kidlitchat
1:13 am dlschubert: Love ‘em both.RT @onbeyondwords Great trad of mash-ups/updates in literature: West Side Story=Romeo & Juliet in Spanish Harlem #kidlitchat
1:13 am onbeyondwords: @jamieharrington – Right – it’s key to make the mash with great material #kidlitchat
1:13 am skodobah: Maybe the end-of-the-world meets a more typical end-of-the-world at the hands of two gals! #kidlitchat
1:13 am caitstuff: @bonnieadamson Can I plug my birthday? ;-) #kidlitchat
1:13 am amyknichols: I’m late! I’m late! It’s Tuesday! What are we talking about?! #kidlitchat
1:13 am AmyBaskin: Emily Whitman’s RADIANT DARKNESS is an engaging reinvention of The R@pe of Persephone. Highly recommend it. #kidlitchat
1:13 am comagrrl: @jamesburksart That’s how I feel about ‘em. #kidlitchat
1:14 am bonnieadamson: @caitstuff Only if it’s a sequel. #kidlitchat
1:14 am skodobah: @caitstuff B-day? Happy day! #kidlitchat
1:14 am barb_q_dell: Loved Gathering Blue and Messenger, companions to Lois Lowry’s The Giver. #KidLitChat
1:14 am jamieharrington: @caitstuff happy birthday! #kidlitchat
1:14 am bonnieadamson: @amyknichols Sequels, mashups, etc.–Do they work? #kidlitchat
1:14 am dawnbonnevie: RT @Sascha_Zuger: Updates to classics seem somehow more respectful than someone else trying to write a sequel long after the first. #kidlitchat
1:14 am mumfusa: @chantalkirkland @jaimeharrington @jennwwrites i am liking companion novels, but maybe not the novella that was announced today. #kidlitchat
1:14 am AmyBaskin: Hi @amyknichols! #kidlitchat
1:14 am caitstuff: @bonnieadamson I don’t know. It might be a mashup. #kidlitchat
1:15 am barb_q_dell: And Palace of Mirrors, companion to Margaret Peterson Haddix’ Just Ella. Ella not main character, but found out what happened. #KidLitChat
1:15 am TracyClark_TLC: @mumfusa I think companion novels are a bonus. If you already love the story/setting. You get to see it through different eyes #kidlitchat
1:15 am amyknichols: @bonnieadamson Oh cool. Interesting topic. #kidlitchat
1:15 am jamieharrington: @mumfusa hmm, I missed an announcement… what’s coming out? #kidlitchat
1:15 am hatbooks: Wide Sargasso Sea, a sort of prequel to Jane Eyre, one of the best. #kidlitchat
1:15 am jamesburksart: Has anyone read Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer? I’m curious but haven’t been willing to go as far as buying it. #kidlitchat
1:15 am DarthFormal: I think companion novels are more fun for the author to write than for the reader to read; this is not always true, of course #kidlitchat
1:15 am onbeyondwords: There is something to be said for making old material accessible to readers who might not have read the classic otherwise #kidlitchat
1:15 am bonnieadamson: @caitstuff Happy Birthday! #kidlitchat
1:15 am chrstinef: RT @hatbooks: Wide Sargasso Sea, a sort of prequel to Jane Eyre, one of the best. #kidlitchat
1:15 am amyknichols: @caitstuff Happy Birthday. :) #kidlitchat
1:15 am KrisYankee: RT @TracyClark_TLC: @mumfusa I think companion novels are a bonus. You get to see it through different eyes #kidlitchat
1:16 am sandyalonzo: Regarding sequels, it seems like they’re very hard to write, as if there’d be a ton of pressure. #kidlitchat
1:16 am skodobah: Hmmm, other mashups…. #kidlitchat
1:16 am mumfusa: @jamieharrington http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-stephenie-meyers-new-twilight-book.html #kidlitchat
1:16 am chantalkirkland: @jamieharrington Uh, seriously? From Stephanie Meyers…don’t tell me you (of all people) missed the twitter discussion today. #kidlitchat
1:16 am AmyBaskin: @lainitaylor ‘s Lips Touch Three Times contains a lush update on Christina Rosetti’s Goblin Fruit poem. #kidlitchat @chavaleque
1:16 am marybrebner: @bonnieadamson sick of the mash-ups. Do we really need another Jane Austen’s-characters-go-buck-wild-on-zombies book? #kidlitchat
1:16 am amyknichols: @jamesburksart Same here. I’ve been waiting to hear what others say first. #kidlitchat
1:16 am jafhedlund: Would the “Henry Huggins” series be considered companions to the Ramona books? Or does it have to be fantasy worlds? #kidlitchat
1:16 am PaulWHankins: The issue I have w/Shakespeare is how much he is popping up in YA. And kind of ham-handedly. I’ve seen him in 5 titles lately. #kidlitchat
1:16 am skodobah: What is this new novella from Stephenie Meyer? #kidlitchat
1:16 am mumfusa: @TracyClark_TLC totally agree! #kidlitchat
1:16 am dlschubert: @caitstuff Happy Birthday! You’re in great company. It’s also @WolfsonLiterary‘s birthday. #kidlitchat
1:16 am chantalkirkland: @jamesburksart I want to read Abe the VS, but haven’t yet. #kidlitchat
1:16 am caitstuff: @jamesburksart My friend did. She’s got a review on Pop Damage: http://pop-damage.com/?p=4841 #kidlitchat
1:17 am barb_q_dell: Just read The Night Tourist by Katherine Marsh, which reflects Orpheus in the Underworld. #KidLitChat
1:17 am KrisYankee: @mumfusa Thanks. And seriously? Ugh. Not sure I’ll be into that. #kidlitchat
1:17 am bonnieadamson: @marybrebner That’s kind of my take, too–but must admit, have not read any of them . . . #kidlitchat
1:17 am Sascha_Zuger: Isn’t that the big question that always comes in the reader mail though – ‘When will you write a sequel to ___?’ #kidlitchat
1:17 am skodobah: RT @adamselzer: Sequels are hard to write. You have to rebuild the world without “babysitters clubbing” (or re-using jokes) #kidlitchat
1:17 am jamesburksart: @caitstuff Thanks I’ll check that out. #kidlitchat
1:17 am jamieharrington: @PaulWHankins yeah, but to be fair– a lot of Shakespeare plays are VERY YA #kidlitchat
1:17 am EgmontUSA: Can anyone think of an example of a mash up that’s not incorporating the paranormal? #kidlitchat
1:17 am amyknichols: @PaulWHankins Which five? #kidlitchat
1:17 am jafhedlund: Happy Birthday @caitstuff! #kidlitchat
1:17 am EgmontGal: @PaulWHankins oh eeek there is shakespeare in the new @allenzadoff. they are performing it, hero is a lighting designer #kidlitchat
1:17 am chantalkirkland: @adamselzer LOL! I think I just busted a gut laughing…for realizies #kidlitchat
1:18 am DarthFormal: @onbeyondwords I agree; I think that’s why I enjoyed the Percy Jackson series so much #kidlitchat
1:18 am jamieharrington: @adamselzer haha why is that called babysitters clubbing? #kidlitchat
1:18 am skodobah: Not sure about sequels for my own stories. They kind of end on their own. #kidlitchat
1:18 am AmyBaskin: @barb_q_dell Sounds intriguing. How was it? #kidlitchat
1:18 am skodobah: RT @EgmontUSA: Can anyone think of an example of a mash up thats not incorporating the paranormal? #kidlitchat
1:18 am EgmontGal: @jafhedlund henry huggins books ARE companions to the Ramona books, though in fact they came in the other order #kidlitchat
1:18 am jamieharrington: @EgmontGal there SHOULD be Shakespeare in our stories occasionally, he’s the YA king #kidlitchat
1:18 am sandyalonzo: I hate reading book two in a series only to be disappointed, because it’s not as good as book one. #kidlitchat
1:18 am onbeyondwords: @jamesburksart Yes – I read Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter – because I’m doing a Q & A with Seth Grahame Smith on my blog. #kidlitchat
1:18 am skodobah: How about a normal mashup? #kidlitchat
1:18 am adamselzer: @jamieharrington “babysitters clubbing” = opening with a chapter or two of info dump, like BSC books tended to after a while. #kidlitchat
1:18 am EgmontUSA: @EgmontGal But that’s different. We’re talking about updating it or doing a sequel or a mash up. #kidlitchat
1:18 am marybrebner: @bonnieadamson Me neither *shame* and there I go trashing them! But I just really love the classics–without new words added! #kidlitchat
1:19 am chantalkirkland: FYI: http://news-briefs.ew.com/2010/03/30/stephenie-meyer-eclipse-novella-bree/ #kidlitchat
1:19 am bonnyglen: @Sascha_Zuger “When will you write a sequel…” –that is indeed the question I’m most often asked. Daily! #kidlitchat
1:19 am ChrisRivan: @EgmontUSA #kidlitchat zombies are undead, not paranormal. Most paranormal researcher would flip out if they heard that.
1:19 am TracyClark_TLC: @EgmontUSA The trend of new Peter Pan books come to mind… #kidlitchat
1:19 am Gwenda: Purely as a reader, sometimes I prefer sequels–less throat clearing. But I also tend to love second books in trilogies. #kidlitchat
1:19 am jamieharrington: @sandyalonzo I hate starting in book 2 and not having a clue what’s going on #kidlitchat
1:19 am bonnieadamson: @jamieharrington Shakespeare’s so basic to Western plots, though, that hardly counts. #kidlitchat
1:19 am jamieharrington: @adamselzer oh yeah, I remember now that I used to just skip those chapters! #kidlitchat
1:19 am adamselzer: Not that I read Babysitters Club, but my SISTER did, and she said…. #kidlitchat
1:19 am amyknichols: @sandyalonzo I feel the same way. There are a couple of Book Two’s I’ve held off reading for that reason. #kidlitchat
1:19 am EgmontGal: @jamieharrington yeah, I have always asserted that Henry IV pt 1 is a YA novel, only as a play #kidlitchat
1:19 am jafhedlund: Wow @EgmontGal, did not know Henry Huggins came first! #kidlitchat
1:20 am AmyBaskin: Has anyone read any of the HECK series by Dale E. Bayse pub by @RandomHouse? #kidlitchat Circles of ‘heck’ for tweens (led by Virgil!)
1:20 am RebeccAgent: a client of mine is updating The Phantom of the Opera, set in the caribbean. The Jumbee by Pamela Keyes pub’ing this fall. #kidlitchat
1:20 am KrisYankee: RT @jamieharrington: @sandyalonzo I hate starting in book 2 and not having a clue what’s going on (Me TOO) #kidlitchat
1:20 am jamieharrington: @bonnieadamson exactly. His plots are what we all build on. #kidlitchat
1:20 am comagrrl: @AmyBaskin I read the first one. #kidlitchat
1:20 am EgmontUSA: @ChrisRivan You’re right, but they’re still lumped into the paranormal trend from a market perspective. #kidlitchat
1:20 am EgmontGal: @jafhedlund I’m so old, Ramona the Pest was the only Ramona book I read in elementary school #kidlitchat
1:21 am onbeyondwords: @jamesburksart re Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter – very clever premise and well-written #kidlitchat
1:21 am amyknichols: @comagrrl What did you think of it? #kidlitchat
1:21 am barb_q_dell: Madeleine L’Engles Vicky Austin and Polly O’Keefe books shared chars (Adam, Zach, Canon Tallis), although the MCs never met. #KidLitChat
1:21 am EgmontUSA: @TracyClark_TLC But are those really mashups? I don’t think of them that way, I guess. Maybe it’s just me. #kidlitchat
1:21 am AmyBaskin: @comagrrl What was your take on it? #kidlitchat
1:21 am Sascha_Zuger: @bonnyglen I think the kids just don’t want to let go of the characters. They ‘have to know what comes next.’ #kidlitchat
1:21 am jamieharrington: @EgmontGal there are so many of his stories that are the basis for great YA’s Hamlet, R&J #kidlitchat
1:21 am jamesburksart: good thing about writing sequels is the characters are already established. Problem is the story still has to stand on its own. #kidlitchat
1:22 am amyknichols: @onbeyondwords And the premise worked? Throughout? #kidlitchat
1:22 am ncyankee719: RT @EgmontUSA: Walter Dean Myers is doing a sizzling update of of Bizet’s CARMEN set in Spanish Harlem. Spring 2011, and it will be hot! #kidlitchat
1:22 am onbeyondwords: I’m all for the original story but mb we’re overlooking the fact that people have been re-telling the same stories for aeons #kidlitchat
1:22 am comagrrl: @amyknichols Clever for a while but got tiring pretty quickly. Writing was good. #kidlitchat
1:22 am caitstuff: @jamieharrington @bonnieadamson Except there’s still a difference btwn “building on Shakespeare” and “having the same plot” #kidlitchat
1:22 am sandyalonzo: @barb_q_dell How interesting, to share characters. Never heard of that before. #kidlitchat
1:22 am MichelleDEvans: hello! just saw this chat… what’s the topic? #kidlitchat
1:22 am bonnieadamson: @barb_q_dell Oh, I LOVE companion books where the reader has to make the connection. #kidlitchat
1:22 am KrisYankee: Why do a sequel? Why not sell as a series? #kidlitchat
1:22 am Gwenda: I wholeheartedly agree with the trilogy strategy @sarahreesbrenna talks abt here (yay second books): http://tinyurl.com/y8ksrkd #kidlitchat
1:22 am mumfusa: RT @jamesburksart: good: writing sequels, the characters are already established. bad: the story still has to stand on its own. #kidlitchat
1:23 am skodobah: @ChrisRivan I just don’t like zombies. Period. Unless they are drinks! #kidlitchat
1:23 am adamselzer: @jamesburksart characters may be established, but you have to re-establish them all over again “for readers just joining in.” #kidlitchat
1:23 am chrstinef: RT @bonnieadamson: @barb_q_dell Oh, I LOVE companion books where the reader has to make the connection. #kidlitchat
1:23 am crissachappell: RT @Sascha_Zuger: Isn’t that the big question that always comes in the reader mail though – ‘When will you write a sequel to ___?’ #kidlitchat
1:23 am TracyClark_TLC: @jamieharrington I agree. And if it weren’t for rehashing Shakespeare like 1996 Romeo & Juliet movie, some kids wouldn’t be fans #kidlitchat
1:23 am chantalkirkland: @caitstuff True. #kidlitchat
1:23 am houndrat: I actually preferred books 2 and 3 in the Vampire Academy series to book 1. #kidlitchat
1:23 am bonnieadamson: @MichelleDEvans Sequels, mashups and companion books–what works and why? #kidlitchat
1:23 am amyknichols: @comagrrl That’s what I wondered. I heard the same about Pride & Prejudice and Zombies. #kidlitchat
1:23 am jafhedlund: RT @skodobah: @ChrisRivan I just don’t like zombies. Period. Unless they are drinks! #kidlitchat
1:23 am RebeccAgent: @krisyankee sometimes publisher won’t buy series. Will only buy one book at a time #kidlitchat
1:23 am Gwenda: I love reworkings best when the author is clearly both invested in the source material & in bringing something fresh to it. #kidlitchat
1:23 am skodobah: @KrisYankee Seems to be a lot of series selling w/our agency. #kidlitchat
1:23 am marybrebner: My students adore series–they’re comfortable with them. Know characters, author, etc. Prefer over stand-alones, mostly. #kidlitchat
1:24 am dawnbonnevie: I liked City of Ember way better than sequel or prequel. #KidLitChat
1:24 am PaulWHankins: @amyknichols I knew someone would ask: Dead Tossed Waves, You, The Juliet Club, Saving Juliet, and Loving Will Shakespeare. #kidlitchat.
1:24 am onbeyondwords: @amyknichols Yes – it was pretty convincing – so much so there’s even a controversy among worried historians #kidlitchat
1:24 am KrisYankee: @RebeccAgent That makes sense. #kidlitchat
1:24 am KrisYankee: @skodobah Yes, there are a lot with our agency. Why can’t it be me and you?!?!? #kidlitchat
1:24 am emilytastic: I almost forgot about #kidlit chat! *shock, horror* — What’s tonight’s topic? #kidlitchat
1:24 am comagrrl: @amyknichols I had the same reaction to P&P and Zombies. #kidlitchat
1:24 am TracyClark_TLC: @EgmontUSA I suppose they are taking an old story and making it new again. #kidlitchat
1:24 am skodobah: @jafhedlund It’s true! Zombies are about as romantic as a dead fish. #kidlitchat
1:24 am prufrocke: @barb_q_dell L’Engle’s connections are GORGEOUS. At one point Vicky & Zachary attend a concert by the protag of her 1st novel. #kidlitchat
1:24 am sharifwrites: @houndrat I’ve found that in series, too, some books stronger than the others. #kidlitchat
1:24 am jafhedlund: I actually think series/sequels work better in #kidlit than they do in adult novels. Maybe just me. #kidlitchat
1:24 am mumfusa: Susan Beth Pfeffer has a great series of companion novels. Life as We Knew It, The Dead and Gone, The World We Live In #kidlitchat
1:24 am RebeccAgent: I know we don’t talk about them much, but it is particularly hard to get a sequel pb until the first has sold well #kidlitchat
1:24 am adamselzer: Nothing wrong with trying all kindsa crap with Shakespeare updates, etc. He’ll survive. You can’t wreck it. #kidlitchat
1:24 am amyknichols: @PaulWHankins DTW is Shakespeare? Interesting. Hadn’t heard that. Thanks for the list. :) #kidlitchat
1:24 am skodobah: @KrisYankee Soon, my fellow friend. #kidlitchat
1:25 am caitstuff: Sorry to bow out early, guys, must go birthday-cake-ify myself. #kidlitchat
1:25 am bonnieadamson: @emilytastic Sequels and updates and mashups, oh my. Which work, why, and what classic author/title should be next? #kidlitchat
1:25 am WeronikaJanczuk: RT @RebeccAgent: I know we don’t talk about them much, but it is particularly hard to get a sequel pb until the first has sold well #kidlitchat
1:25 am chrstinef: @sharifwrites true for anything #kidlitchat
1:25 am TracyClark_TLC: @onbeyondwords I was thinking that. Archetypes. Every story boils down to the same handful of archetypes. #kidlitchat
1:25 am chrstinef: @mumfusa agreed #kidlitchat
1:25 am chrstinef: RT @adamselzer: Nothing wrong with trying all kindsa crap with Shakespeare updates, etc. Hell survive. You cant wreck it. #kidlitchat
1:25 am PaulWHankins: You know what would kill for this American Literature teacher? Pull from Hurston, Faulkner, or Whitman. Yes, I would read this. #kidlitchat
1:25 am amyknichols: This> RT @adamselzer Nothing wrong with trying all kindsa crap with Shakespeare updates, etc. He’ll survive. You can’t wreck it. #kidlitchat
1:25 am KrisYankee: @skodobah Yes, for both of us. #kidlitchat
1:25 am marybrebner: @mumfusa That whole series is great, interconnected–and totally creeps me out because it could happen! #kidlitchat
1:25 am chantalkirkland: @RebeccAgent That’s what I understood. #kidlitchat
1:25 am houndrat: I like updates in movies, too–Clueless, 10 Things I Hate About You….. #kidlitchat
1:25 am MichelleDEvans: @jafhedlund is it because ud put it all in a large novel but in kids lit you break it up in smaller books? #kidlitchat
1:25 am jamesburksart: It seems like you also have to plan for sequels otherwise the character arc is complete after book one and then what. #kidlitchat
1:25 am chrstinef: @RebeccAgent makes sense to me…from a bz perspective #kidlitchat
1:25 am sharifwrites: @mumfusa Sometimes I pick books out of order and go “huh?” Yes, they should stand on their own #kidlitchat
1:26 am sandyalonzo: This is OT but related–I love short story collections with an arc, where some of the characters reappear. #kidlitchat
1:26 am skodobah: @KrisYankee I’m happy to sell all of my stories. They aren’t sequels/mashups, though. #kidlitchat
1:26 am barb_q_dell: @AmyBaskin Which book are you asking about? Night Tourist? Started slow, picked up, loved the story! Takes place in Manhattan. #KidLitChat
1:26 am mumfusa: @marybrebner OMG. i know. that series freaked me out for DAYS. but i couldn’t stop reading them. sign of a good novel. #kidlitchat
1:26 am VBTremper: RT @adamselzer: Nothing wrong with trying all kindsa crap with Shakespeare updates, etc. He’ll survive. You can’t wreck it. #kidlitchat
1:26 am sharifwrites: @chrstinef And if I pick the wrong one in the series, I won’t read the rest. I’ve done that and wondered if I’ve missed out. #kidlitchat
1:27 am house_of_books: RT @EgmontUSA: Walter Dean Myers is doing a sizzling update of of Bizet’s CARMEN set in Spanish Harlem. Spring 2011, and it will be hot! #kidlitchat
1:27 am AmyBaskin: What to mashup next? How ’bout Hemingway or Faulkner? Ha! #kidlitchat Or, what about some Plath?
1:27 am bonnieadamson: Me too RT @sandyalonzo: I love short story collections with an arc, where some of the characters reappear. #kidlitchat
1:27 am mumfusa: @sharifwrites true true. pfeffer’s series is the only one that i think can be read out of order and still make sense. #kidlitchat
1:27 am sandyalonzo: RT @sharifwrites: @mumfusa Sometimes I pick books out of order and go “huh?” Yes, they should stand on their own #kidlitchat
1:27 am amyknichols: @PaulWHankins Excellent idea! #kidlitchat
1:27 am marybrebner: @mumfusa I had to break between the novels, then convince myself to read the next–then devoured it in a day. *sigh* good stuff #kidlitchat
1:27 am houndrat: @sharifwrites It’s hard, tho, bc if you rehash stuff too much, you bore readers of earlier novels in series. #kidlitchat
1:27 am PaulWHankins: @amyknichols References to sonnets in DTWs. Neat allusion, but we’re seeing lots of titles/either re-tellings or re-inventions. #kidlitchat
1:27 am chrstinef: @sharifwrites I understand that! #kidlitchat
1:27 am adamselzer: Matter of fact, people finding out you base stuff on Shakespeare makes you look all sophisticated ‘n’ shit. #kidlitchat
1:28 am barb_q_dell: M L’Engle’s Many Waters about the twin brothers of Meg and Charles Wallace from Wrinkle in Time. Meg and CW barely mentioned. #KidLitChat
1:28 am EgmontUSA: @rowijo Thanks! #kidlitchat was trying to come up with one that wasn’t classic meets monster, and we’re having trouble. This one’s perfect!
1:28 am AmyBaskin: @barb_q_dell Yeah- Night Tourist, eh? I’ll def. check it out. Thanks! #kidlitchat
1:28 am cjomololu: It’s the kids who always want to know if there is a sequel to Dirty Little Secrets – they really want a wrap up. #kidlitchat
1:28 am sharifwrites: @sandyalonzo I like that connectivity. #kidlitchat
1:28 am chantalkirkland: @adamselzer True dat. #kidlitchat
1:28 am PaulWHankins: RT @EgmontUSA: Walter Dean Myers is doing a sizzling update of of Bizet’s CARMEN set in Spanish Harlem. Spring 2011, and it will be hot! #kidlitchat
1:28 am chrstinef: RT @adamselzer: Matter of fact, people finding out you base stuff on Shakespeare makes you look all sophisticated n shit. LOL! #kidlitchat
1:28 am bonnieadamson: How about Rashomon-type companions. Exact same story from diff POV? I love those: Girl Genius et al. #kidlitchat
1:28 am dawnbonnevie: @sandyalonzo yes, me, too! Do you have some examples? I’m drawing a blank #KidLitChat
1:29 am emilytastic: @adamselzer Agreed! It’s like how back in the day, you were smart if you wrote about Greek myths! #kidlitchat
1:29 am DDHearn: Hi everyone. Coming in late. It sounds like topic is about sequels and series? #kidlitchat
1:29 am EgmontGal: @barb_q_dell Oh, you can link the characters throughout L’Engle novels. The Austins are related to the Murray’s somehow, #kidlitchat
1:29 am jafhedlund: Who is going to do a remake of the Narnia Chronicles? #kidlitchat
1:29 am prufrocke: @barb_q_dell …Noooooo, now I’m even sadder she’s gone. Also, A House Like a Lotus has chars from 4 or 5 previous novels. LOVE. #kidlitchat
1:29 am marybrebner: @cjomololu Yeah, they hate when there’s something still hanging. Want it all wrapped up in a pretty package. #kidlitchat
1:29 am onbeyondwords: @TracyClark_TLC right – there’s a book – there are only around 30 dramatic premises that keep getting recycled #kidlitchat
1:29 am amyknichols: @PaulWHankins Oh okay. I recently read Forest of Hands and Teeth and didn’t see any Shakespeare (except love triangle concept). #kidlitchat
1:29 am KrisYankee: Time for yoga. Mash-on kidlitters! #kidlitchat
1:29 am mumfusa: @marybrebner for me, that’s the sign of a GREAT writer. she made me read books i was terrified of. #kidlitchat
1:29 am sharifwrites: @houndrat I know. I’ve picked up series books with too much back story and put them down. #kidlitchat
1:29 am adamselzer: Ebert said 10 Things isn’t BASED on Shrew; Shrew is like a talisman around its neck. Good desc (and a good way to do an update). #kidlitchat
1:29 am mumfusa: gah. time to get back to work. behave yourselves, kids. #kidlitchat
1:29 am bonnieadamson: @DDHearn Yes! And mashups a la P&P and Zombies. #kidlitchat
1:30 am EgmontGal: @bonnieadamson That’s whyI pray that all of Midnight Sun will be released. LOVED reading the ways Edward was going to kill Bella #kidlitchat
1:30 am MichelleDEvans: @jafhedlund reading narnias to my kids each day – some language is really hard for them to understand #kidlitchat
1:30 am DDHearn: @jafhedlund I wouldn’t be surprised these days if a Narnia sequel would make the White Witch the MC. #kidlitchat
1:30 am marybrebner: @mumfusa Agree! Love/hate when I find writers & books like that. But it’s what keeps me coming back. #kidlitchat
1:30 am dlschubert: Writers – do you write w/sequels in mind? If so, do you hold some of the “completion” back? #kidlitchat
1:30 am adamselzer: Many of my books have some classic book like a talisman around its neck – many refs as I could work in. No one EVER notices. #kidlitchat
1:30 am cjomololu: @marybrebner My editor tried to tell me to wrap it up more. Sigh. #kidlitchat
1:30 am onbeyondwords: @DarthFormal Haven’t read the Percy Jackson series but it’s just a new sin on mythology – right? #kidlitchat
1:30 am emilytastic: I’m mostly against sequels to classics. But I’ll read a well-done mash-up or update. #kidlitchat
1:30 am Sascha_Zuger: @marybrebner @cjomololu I think it can also be that they so relate or think of the characters as friends & don’t want to let go. #kidlitchat
1:30 am bonnieadamson: @EgmontGal What’s the plan–think she will release it? #kidlitchat
1:31 am KatGirl_Studio: @EgmontGal yes I liked the different point of view. I hope it comes out too. #kidlitchat
1:31 am prufrocke: @dlschubert Sequel grew out of the novel I’m writing: first serious novel attempt, so I’m enjoying learning about sowing seeds. #kidlitchat
1:31 am EgmontGal: @bonnieadamson personally, from life experience and not pub experience I think yes, eventually. I have NO inside knowledge. #kidlitchat
1:31 am bonnieadamson: @onbeyondwords Percy–yes, from POV of gods’ half-mortal offspring. #kidlitchat
1:31 am DDHearn: @dlschubert I wish I COULD write with a sequel in mind. I always think in terms of one complete story. #kidlitchat
1:31 am comagrrl: @dlschubert When I first started I did but now I just try to write stand-alones. #kidlitchat
1:31 am KatGirl_Studio: @onbeyondwords the Percy Jackson books are fantastic really. #kidlitchat
1:32 am pussreboots: @emilytastic Sometimes there’s a good sequel… like Mistress Mashrum’s Repose is seq to Gulliver’s Travels #kidlitchat
1:32 am VBTremper: @dlschubert I love to read series, so I write with series in mind. #kidlitchat
1:32 am emilytastic: @dlschubert I hope to NEVER write a sequel, because as a reader I dislike cliffhangers. & I feel like I construct whole stories. #kidlitchat
1:32 am cjomololu: @Sascha_Zuger @marybrebner I think they worry. #kidlitchat
1:32 am EgmontGal: @cjomololu maybe your editor wanted a sense of completion, not that she didn’t want depth? No idea, just maybe a possibility #kidlitchat
1:32 am jafhedlund: @DDHearn – Right – like the Narnia version of “Wicked” Could also have it told from Aslan’s perspective #kidlitchat
1:32 am prufrocke: @emilytastic Classic-sequels irk me, too. They never TASTE right, so there’s the whole uncanny valley thing going on there. #kidlitchat
1:32 am tinahoggatt: @KatGirl_Studio still on the to read list- tho I gave them to my nephew #kidlitchat
1:32 am bonnieadamson: Agree. RT @KatGirl_Studio: @onbeyondwords the Percy Jackson books are fantastic really. #kidlitchat
1:32 am PaulWHankins: @EgmontGal You know I am going to love a Zadoff title, Lawsy. No worries here. No worries for Shakespearian references. #kidlitchat
1:32 am DDHearn: I think all books, series or sequels, need to have some kind of sense of completion in them, though some things can be hanging. #kidlitchat
1:33 am sandyalonzo: @dawnbonnevie Later at the Bar by Rebecca Barry, related short stories. Alice Hoffman’s ‘Local Girls’ (sorta!) #kidlitchat
1:33 am tinahoggatt: @emilytastic Sequels don’t have to be cliff hangers. I like following characters I have come to know. #kidlitchat
1:33 am PaulWHankins: I’m of the mind that we treat our own canon (American) as sacred/untouchable, but that we have much to tweak across the pond. #kidlitchat
1:33 am cjomololu: I just wrote the first book of a hopeful series. It was great to have ideas to put away for ‘later’. #kidlitchat
1:33 am DDHearn: @onbeyondwords Did you mean sin on mythology :) or spin on mythology for Percy. Some might say sin, though I enjoyed them. #kidlitchat
1:33 am EgmontGal: Speaking of 10 things, remember My Own Private Idaho? All that great dialog/scenes from Henry IV fit great into it #kidlitchat
1:33 am EgmontUSA: @emilytastic @dlschubert I think if a book with planned sequels can’t stand on its own (and the sequels, too) it’s a problem. #kidlitchat
1:34 am chrstinef: @EgmontUSA me too #kidlitchat
1:34 am onbeyondwords: @TracyClark_TLC – re the limited number of plots – The book is called: 36 Dramatic Situations by Georges Polti #kidlitchat
1:34 am cjomololu: @EgmontGal She had me put in some “hints” but knew that kids would want more closure. She’s smart that way. #kidlitchat
1:34 am tinahoggatt: Salinger’s Glass family showed up in a horizontal manner, not necessarily adventure following adventure. I liked that. #kidlitchat
1:35 am adamselzer: @EgmontGal You’re making me think of using Falstaff as a gym teacher…or school janitor… or booster club president…. #kidlitchat
1:35 am EgmontGal: @Sascha_Zuger yes, I have read series that were brilliantly, movingly, perfectly wrapped up. And I still wanted more. #kidlitchat
1:35 am dlschubert: Agree! RT @DDHearn I think all bks, series or sequels need 2 have some sense of completion, though some things can be hanging. #kidlitchat
1:35 am prufrocke: @DDHearn Yes. I like a series book that leaves you wondering what’ll happen next, but not one that feels like half a story. #kidlitchat
1:35 am DDHearn: @emilytastic I think a good series gives enough completion in each book to satisfy, but leaves enough hanging to want next one. #kidlitchat
1:35 am onbeyondwords: @DDHearn Ha ha – did I say sin? I meant spin. Boy – I really have to read that series. I’m intrigued. #kidlitchat
1:35 am AnneGBrown: I see were talking sequels–is this in relation to Stephenie Meyers’ new book (sorry I’m late) #kidlitchat
1:35 am jafhedlund: What about pb series? I’m not usually a fan. Love Fancy Nancy, but how many of those do we need? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1:35 am crcook: Great #kidlitchat tonight on sequels and mashups. Must miss because of #deadline. Happy chatting!
1:36 am prufrocke: @DDHearn Though sometimes a cliffhanger can still work in the context of a complete story. It depends on the context. #kidlitchat
1:36 am skodobah: Going to make dinner… nothing mashed, though! #kidlitchat
1:36 am KatGirl_Studio: @prufrocke yes i agree! #kidlitchat
1:36 am amyknichols: @PaulWHankins I like your idea of reworking Faulkner, et al. But my gut says they’re not old enough to retell yet. Silly? #kidlitchat
1:37 am dawnbonnevie: @sandyalonzo The only shorts that can to mind was Ernie’s Ark. loved it, and that connectivity was definately why #KidLitChat
1:38 am boylebob: @jafhedlund Mo Willems has done well with sequels. Knuffle Bunny, the Elephant and piggie series etc.. #kidlitchat
1:39 am Gwenda: There is also the challenge of doing new take on something for kids/YA w/out necessarily expecting them to know the source. #kidlitchat
1:40 am dlschubert: @EgmontUSA I totally agree. Each book needs to be complete on its own while leaving gems for follow-up books. #kidlitchat
1:40 am EgmontUSA: #kidlitchat
1:42 am Gwenda: Looks like #kidlitchat broke twitter. :)
1:43 am EgmontUSA: @dlschubert Exactly! #kidlitchat
1:43 am AmyBaskin: @dlschubert Yep. Twitter is seriously constipated tonight. #kidlitchat
1:43 am debbieduncan: @BonnieAdamson Catching up late on #kidlitchat, but yes, twitter seems to be broken. Aaannnddd, when will this tweet?
1:43 am barb_q_dell: We broke Twitter! #KidLitChat
1:44 am writesmartpam: @BonnieAdamson Yes, Twitter keeps sending me pink messages saying, “Don’t panic!” Every time I get one, I panic. #kidlitchat
1:44 am jamesburksart: @boylebob The skippy Jon jones series has also done really well. #kidlitchat
1:44 am EgmontUSA: If I tweet the same thing a bunch of times, it’s broken tweetgrid in reaction to broken twitter and broken tweetchat. #kidlitchat
1:44 am chantalkirkland: @AmyBaskin Nice use of visual description. Twitter is constipated–I will have to use that somewhere. #kidlitchat
1:45 am emilytastic: @dlschubert @EgmontUSA @DDHearn I agree – each book should stand on its own. When they don’t, series books really bug me. #kidlitchat
1:45 am jafhedlund: Cannot get a tweet in edgewise #kidlitchat
1:45 am DDHearn: I like how each Percy or HP book had one story that completed at the end of the book, but with larger story to tell. #kidlitchat
1:46 am AmyBaskin: @chantalkirkland Sometimes I can get a little too graphic. Hope you’re not eating whilst you read this! #kidlitchat “Twitterpated” is nicer.
1:46 am jamesburksart: Series I really enjoyed was The Mysterious Benedict Society and it sequels. #kidlitchat
1:46 am DDHearn: I can’t get on to tweetchat anymore, and twitter is giving me fits, too. #kidlitchat
1:46 am onbeyondwords: @jafhedlund There are some great pb series – what about Olivia? Babar? I think young children love these returning characters #kidlitchat
1:47 am barb_q_dell: Left hanging by Hunger Games and Catching Fire. And have to wait until AUGUST to find out what happens! #KidLitChat (OK, so HG is YA.)
1:47 am nkrell: RT @DDHearn: I like how each Percy or HP book had one story that completed at the end of the book, but with larger story to tell. #kidlitchat
1:47 am sandyalonzo: @BonnieAdamson I’ve been dumped! Bye for now #kidlitchat
1:47 am onbeyondwords: Wow – tried to Tweet that last thing for ages. Tweetchat is mashed up #kidlitchat
1:47 am DDHearn: @amyknichols Could it be possible some of the older books are in the public domain, and thus fair game? #kidlitchat
1:47 am barb_q_dell: RT @DDHearn: I like how each Percy or HP book had one story that completed at the end of the book, but with larger story to tell. #kidlitchat
1:47 am bonnieadamson: @jamesburksart Haven’t read sequels–you recommend? #kidlitchat
1:49 am amyknichols: @DDHearn Hadn’t thought of public domain. Good point. #kidlitchat
1:49 am sharifwrites: @DDHearn Many older books are in the public domain. #kidlitchat
1:49 am amyknichols: Did #kidlitchat break Twitter?! ;)
1:50 am hatbooks: @PaulWHankins actually I aim to try something based on Faulkner but set in rural Japan w/ fractured chronology…wd that do? #kidlitchat
1:50 am kdueykduey: Tried to join in but Twitter is making it impossible…and I should be writing. May words fly out!! CU Next time, I hope…#kidlitchat
1:50 am nkrell: Whoa, this is super slow tonight. What’s wrong with my computer? #kidlitchat
1:50 am DDHearn: @barb_q_dell But both Hunger Games and Catching Fire had a sense of completion, with the games ending, even though more coming #kidlitchat
1:51 am DDHearn: New title for #kidlitchat. Twitter meets Gremlins.
1:51 am bonnieadamson: I like sequels better if written by original author–not fair somehow to sequel a classic. #kidlitchat
1:51 am boylebob: @jamesburksart I think that in general, PB seem to have better luck with sequels. How about a PB mashup? ;) #kidlitchat
1:51 am nkrell: Yep, I’m gone as well. Night. #kidlitchat
1:51 am prufrocke: I love when I’m reading a book and realise plot seeds were being sown several books ago when I wasn’t paying attention. #kidlitchat
1:51 am bonnieadamson: @jamesburksart Thanks–I liked the first. #kidlitchat
1:51 am EgmontGal: @cjomololu oh, good! Editors work sometimes to help bring your work to its audience. Not all kids can stretch so far with you #kidlitchat
1:52 am bonnieadamson: @nkrell It’s not you . . . #kidlitchat
1:52 am amyknichols: OK, giving up on Twitter and #kidlitchat. Will go work on this chapter instead. :)
1:52 am DDHearn: @nkrell Don’t blame the computer. Tweetchat and Twitter are having a feud tonight. #kidlitchat
1:52 am jamesburksart: I’m still looking for a new series to replace Harry Potter. Something that you can look forward to when it comes out. #kidlitchat
1:53 am onbeyondwords: @DDHearn very funny! It could be a book. #kidlitchat
1:53 am KatGirl_Studio: @jamesburksart me too #kidlitchat
1:53 am DDHearn: @boylebob Wild Things meet Eloise. She’d give them a run for their money. #kidlitchat
1:53 am EgmontGal: @barb_q_dell dif between hunger games and catching fire. Hunger games had an ending. Catching Fire, deliberately, did not. #kidlitchat
1:53 am tinahoggatt: RT @amyknichols: Did #kidlitchat break Twitter?! ;)
1:53 am emilytastic: FYI, Tweetgrid is working better for me that tweethat tonite. #kidlitchat
1:53 am EgmontGal: @amyknichols Oh, Faulkner is ripe for updating, no? I would love to see someone try Sanctuary or the Benjy one as a YA #kidlitchat
1:53 am EgmontUSA: Back on tweetchat. Phew! #kidlitchat
1:53 am growupwithbooks: @jafhedlund @onbeyondwords What about Mercy Watson by Kate DiCamillo? #kidlitchat
1:53 am jemifraser: I think Twitter’s finally letting me on – it’s been almost an hour!! And Blogger’s hiding comments! *sigh* I missed most of #kidlitchat :(
1:54 am gstickle: RT @EgmontGal: @cjomololu oh, good! Editors work sometimes to help bring your work to its audience. Not all kids can stretch so far with you #kidlitchat
1:54 am growupwithbooks: Also Chasing Vermeer.RT @jamesburksart: Series I really enjoyed was The Mysterious Benedict Society and it sequels. #kidlitchat
1:54 am PaulWHankins: @hatbooks Send me an ARC and I will let you know (grin). I am shameless like this. Just thought I would tell you up-front. #kidlitchat
1:54 am ashleymc1477: I hate to be left hanging at the end of a book, but I still read series and run to the store to buy the next book. #kidlitchat
1:54 am jamesburksart: @boylebob I wonder if it would be harder to mash up a picture book because of the art. #kidlitchat
1:54 am bonnieadamson: Yay! Tweetchat is back. That was scary. #kidlitchat
1:55 am heidiayarbe: RT @adamselzer: Nothing wrong with trying all kindsa crap with Shakespeare updates, etc. He’ll survive. You can’t wreck it. #kidlitchat
1:55 am Gwenda: Also love when authors are able to create a big universe where people show up in other stories & books as non-principles. #kidlitchat
1:55 am EgmontUSA: How do people feel about completions of fragments that were never finished because author passed away? #kidlitchat
1:55 am EgmontGal: Tweetchat was subliminally programming us to watch Crystal Bowersox on Idol. #kidlitchat
1:55 am AnneGBrown: @jamesburksart Good luck with that. I’ve resorted to just reading HP over and over and over and over #kidlitchat
1:55 am DDHearn: I’m back on Tweetchat, too. Even though it’s almost time to go, it’s nice to have everything in working order again. #kidlitchat
1:55 am gstickle: RT @amyknichols: Did #kidlitchat break Twitter?! ;)
1:56 am Gwenda: And I think kids/teens like being able to develop expert knowledge of an author’s world in that way. #kidlitchat
1:56 am pussreboots: @ashleymc1477 I only read series when the book stand alone. #kidlitchat
1:56 am growupwithbooks: Has anyone talked about 39 CLues? My kids are HOT about it! #kidlitchat
1:56 am boylebob: @DDHearn That sounds perfectly sacrilegious!#kidlitchat
1:56 am EgmontGal: @hatbooks If you are seriously trying Faulkner set in Japan with fractured narration I want to see it. And I am serious. #kidlitchat
1:56 am DDHearn: @jamesburksart Oh…you could have two styles of art in the same book. Might be interesting. #kidlitchat
1:56 am jamesburksart: @DDHearn Do you think publishers would allow something like that? #kidlitchat
1:56 am bonnieadamson: @EgmontUSA Agatha Christie’s play were turned into novels–not successfully. #kidlitchat
1:56 am onbeyondwords: @growupwithbooks Haven’t read Mercy Watson #kidlitchat
1:57 am PaulWHankins: @EgmontUSA I feel like I would like to be able to finish my own book (grin), but. . .okay. You may finish it. #kidlitchat
1:57 am AmyBaskin: @jamesburksart Have you seen the “Goodnight Forest Moon” Star Wars MW Brown mashup? #kidlitchat
1:57 am bonnieadamson: @growupwithbooks What’s the element that grabs them? Story? Internet component? #kidlitchat
1:57 am tinahoggatt: @Gwenda I think there is a comfort in re-entering world you already know and picking up a thread. #kidlitchat
1:57 am DDHearn: @jamesburksart I think that if a book is still under copyright it might be hard to get permission to mash up titles. #kidlitchat
1:58 am EgmontGal: @tinahoggatt Also, I like the way skillful writers weave what you need to know about the series into first chapter or so #kidlitchat
1:58 am EgmontUSA: @growupwithbooks 39 Clues great example of a series of stories that are satisfying, with a greater overarching series plot. #kidlitchat
1:58 am AuthorTaraKelly: Hey all, what’s the topic tonight? #kidlitchat
1:58 am gstickle: RT @EgmontGal: @tinahoggatt Also, I like the way skillful writers weave what you need to know about the series into first chapter or so #kidlitchat
1:58 am emilytastic: I’m a pretty confident gal, but I don’t think I’d ever want to modernize a classic bk. I’d be petrified of not doing it justice! #kidlitchat
1:58 am tinahoggatt: Re: 39 Clue it is hugeness. Registering on the screens of tech trackers #kidlitchat
1:58 am jafhedlund: Not saying pb series don’t do well, just that I don’t usually love any besides the first. @boylebob-Mo Willems being exception #kidlitchat
1:58 am EgmontUSA: @PaulWHankins I’m honored, Paul, but I would never dream of it. #kidlitchat
1:59 am DDHearn: @EgmontGal But don’t you think a lot of series started out as stand alone books, with little clue to continuing story? #kidlitchat
1:59 am growupwithbooks: RT @prufrocke: I love when I’m reading a book and realise plot seeds were being sown several books ago when I wasn’t paying attention. #kidlitchat
1:59 am EgmontGal: RT @DDHearn Like how each Percy or HP book had 1 story that completed at the end of the book, but w/ larger story to tell. Yes! #kidlitchat
1:59 am hatbooks: @EgmontGal great! will work on Faulkner set in Japan…he visited Japan, you know… #kidlitchat
1:59 am pussreboots: I only read series when the book stand alone. #kidlitchat
1:59 am bonnieadamson: @AuthorTaraKelly Sequels, nashups & companion books–what works? #kidlitchat
1:59 am jamesburksart: True, that could be fun. RT @DDHearn: you could have two styles of art in the same book. #kidlitchat
1:59 am Gwenda: @tinahoggatt Or in spotting something small the author planted there for previous readers. V. enjoyable. #kidlitchat
1:59 am tinahoggatt: @EgmontGal It is definitely a skill – as a kid I could smell that catch-up info from a mile away. #kidlitchat
1:59 am jafhedlund: But I do concede that kids tend to love pb series. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1:59 am PaulWHankins: @EgmontGal This is what made serials work back when. The ability to leave the theater and come back to a sense of the story. #kidlitchat
1:59 am bonnieadamson: Mashups, not Nashups. #kidlitchat
2:00 am jamesburksart: @AmyBaskin No, is it good? #kidlitchat
2:00 am tinahoggatt: @growupwithbooks Laurie R. King does this brilliantly with her Russell & Holmes series. #kidlitchat
2:00 am onbeyondwords: @pussreboots If it’s a good series the individual books will stand alone #kidlitchat
2:01 am jafhedlund: I am now saying goodnight to the fail whale – thanks all! #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
2:01 am AmyBaskin: @jamesburksart I’ve only heard about it, but it sounds kind of not-so-good! #kidlitchat
2:01 am PaulWHankins: I was just thinking that Susan Bosak’s Dream is a nice mash-up of familiar illustrator’s styles that worked really well. #kidlitchat
2:01 am Gwenda: I like companion books, but series/trilogies are still the best for a certain type of legitimately bigger story. #kidlitchat
2:01 am onbeyondwords: @growupwithbooks – Thanks – I’ll have to look for it #kidlitchat
2:02 am EgmontGal: @Gwenda there is so often a real challenge with book 2 of a trilogy. how to make it great on its own and not a bridge book #kidlitchat
2:02 am pussreboots: @onbeyondwords I’m reading the Percy Jackson books now and I like how they stand alone and work together #kidlitchat
2:02 am bonnieadamson: Hey, gang–cutting out early tonight–not from lack of interest! Greg is traveling–will have trans. up (what there is!) soon. #kidlitchat
2:03 am PaulWHankins: Another picture book that did this well: Why Did the Chicken Cross the Road? Not big on story, but a nice sampling of artists. #kidlitchat
2:03 am EgmontGal: @tinahoggatt I *liked* the “catch you up on series” info when I was a kid. It was orderly and familiar. I liked the rules of it #kidlitchat
2:03 am Gwenda: Which is to say the individual books should feel satisfying, but trilogies & the like should also tell a bigger story. #kidlitchat
2:03 am boylebob: @jafhedlund True. The Cat In The Hat Comes Back wasn’t nearly the same as the original. #kidlitchat
2:03 am Gwenda: @EgmontGal Totally agree, but when done well they are my favorites–all the gooey character development is in the good book 2s. #kidlitchat
2:03 am auntieflamingo: RT @bonnieadamson: Hey, gang–cutting out early tonight–not from lack of interest! Greg is traveling–will have trans. up (what there is!) soon. #kidlitchat
2:04 am EgmontGal: @DDHearn Yes, I think a lot of things we think of now as series, like the Ramona books, were just their own things back then. #kidlitchat
2:04 am AmyBaskin: @EgmontGal I agree! I think it was particularly tough for Tolkien. #kidlitchat He had a hard row to hoe (or marsh to walk through.)
2:04 am growupwithbooks: @onbeyondwords For me it shows what a talented author Kate DiCamillo really is…MANY age groups for which she writes. #kidlitchat
2:04 am DDHearn: Tweetchat kicked me off again, so I’ll go read the end of Jonathan Strange, which has finally become really good. #kidlitchat
2:04 am EgmontGal: Let’s not forget, if a book is a hit now, publishers and their sales depts pressure, pressure for more in a way unknown in past #kidlitchat
2:04 am thesadeianwoman: oh #kidlitchat! hi! i dunno if i can stay but i do hope so bc i enjoy these chats!
2:04 am jamesburksart: @AmyBaskin a lot of the star wars stuff seems to go that way. George lucas will do anything it seems for a buck. #kidlitchat
2:05 am growupwithbooks: @tinahoggatt Haven’t read them. I’m looking into it RIGHT now! #kidlitchat
2:05 am DDHearn: @AmyBaskin I read that Lord of the Rings was originally one long book. Publisher made Tolkien break it into three. #kidlitchat
2:05 am tinahoggatt: @EgmontGal I liked it if it was clever & knew it was necessary. I was very conscious of author incompetence as a kid reader. #kidlitchat
2:05 am onbeyondwords: @pussreboots I definitely have to read them #kidlitchat
2:06 am Gwenda: @EgmontGal There’s a way in which middle book can be more surprising, since it isn’t the final wrap-up, but the launch to it. #kidlitchat
2:06 am pussreboots: My kids aren’t into Star Wars… #kidlitchat
2:06 am TrinityFaegen: My brother just left – we had a birthday dinner for him – and I see I’m just in time to miss #kidlitchat. Bummer!
2:07 am pussreboots: @onbeyondwords They are getting my son to be passionate about mythology. #kidlitchat
2:07 am dlschubert: Thanks for the interesting chat, my friends. Until next week, keep it real and follow your passions. And, happy holidays to all! #kidlitchat
2:07 am tinahoggatt: @DDHearn You’re inspiring me to pick that up again. Cheers! #kidlitchat
2:07 am adamselzer: @pussreboots My 7 year old knows almost as much about Star Wars as I do, and man, I know from Star Wars. #kidlitchat
2:07 am EgmontGal: @Gwenda yeah, I LOVE catching fire, so much Peeta v Gale hotness! #kidlitchat
2:08 am prufrocke: Just remembered only classic-sequel I loved: someone wrote an I Capture the Castle sequel for Yuletide last year. OH MY LORD. #kidlitchat
2:08 am onbeyondwords: Fun chat – thanks people. So glad I made it – for the first time in weeks. #kidlitchat
2:08 am prufrocke: They got the tone and the cleverness and the -interestingness- of the prose down like you wouldn’t believe. NOBODY does that! #kidlitchat
2:09 am emilytastic: I like duologies. I wish there were more duologies. Two books and then I can breathe again. Looking forward to the EON sequel. #kidlitchat
2:09 am pussreboots: @adamselzer My 7 year old couldn’t care less about Star Wars. (We’ve tried… he’s not interested) #kidlitchat
2:09 am EgmontGal: @growupwithbooks I love wondering “did the author plan that,or did he/she figure it out later?”Like (Twi spoiler) Jacob/Renesmee #kidlitchat
2:09 am Gwenda: @emilytastic LOVE LOVE Elizabeth Knox’s Dreamhunter duology. #kidlitchat
2:09 am EgmontGal: @prufrocke really? I am terrified of trying the I Capture the Castle sequel. It’s really good? #kidlitchat
2:09 am prufrocke: @emilytastic Heeeee, but my brain raised on folktales and symbolism finds two an open-ended number. Three is complete! :P #kidlitchat
2:10 am tinahoggatt: @emilytastic Frankly I like the word duology. #kidlitchat
2:10 am Gwenda: @EgmontGal It’s @sarahreesbrenna‘s “make-out” formulation for book 2s at work! #kidlitchat
2:10 am hatbooks: Would like to see a stand alone to follow Rebecca Stead’s When You Reach Me #kidlitchat
2:10 am emilytastic: @Gwenda I will look for it! I do not know it by name, but I bet I’ve seen it around (ex-bookseller-spideysense) #kidlitchat
2:11 am Gwenda: @EgmontGal @prufrocke There’s an I Capture the Castle SEQUEL? (Loved Montmaray though.) #kidlitchat
2:11 am prufrocke: @EgmontGal It’s lovely. I was impressed by how they managed to imitate Smith’s style while still maintaining an original flair. #kidlitchat
2:11 am Gwenda: @emilytastic So, so good, but give it 50 pages at the beginning to really get started. BRILLIANT. #kidlitchat
2:11 am tinahoggatt: @hatbooks I loved that book and it did suggest a companion book #kidlitchat
2:11 am kdueykduey: @Gwenda And I love you for loving my books! Grateful sigh…I do try hard not to throatclear. #kidlitchat
2:12 am prufrocke: @EgmontGal And then I felt silly because they had all this WWII research & a billion pages of story and mine just hit wordlimit! #kidlitchat
2:12 am emilytastic: You know what I CAN see myself doing, is interpreting a POEM into a novel. Crazier than updating shakespeare? Maybe. #kidlitchat
2:12 am AmyBaskin: @jamesburksart Yup. #kidlitchat
2:13 am AmyBaskin: @DDHearn I remember hearing that, now that you mention it! #kidlitchat
2:13 am prufrocke: @emilytastic I occasionally have delusions of novelising T.S. Eliot poems, like “Rhapsody on a Windy Night”, so… #kidlitchat
2:13 am emilytastic: @Gwenda I can give 50 pages. I always try to — some of my fave books have had slow starts. #kidlitchat
2:13 am EgmontGal: @adamselzer They could hire Falstaff as a janitor so he could start the kids drinking in his closet. #kidlitchat
2:14 am AmyBaskin: @emilytastic @LainiTaylor interpreted Christina Rosetti’s ‘Goblin Fruit’ into the first story in Lips Touch Three Times. Do it! #kidlitchat
2:14 am Gwenda: @emilytastic Both books really are amazing; I think the second’s even better than the first (& it got a Printz honor). #kidlitchat
2:14 am Shelltex: @emilytastic I could see a poem being interpreted into a novel or used as a great motif in a novel. #kidlitchat #hashtagforgetter
2:14 am emilytastic: Since we’re winding down can I do a wee spam? I’m trying to get these artsy rec. cards to their authors http://bit.ly/asIRrv #kidlitchat
2:15 am hatbooks: Thanks for the chat. Must go reread Faulkner. #kidlitchat
2:15 am emilytastic: @prufrocke Yes! And Elizabeth Bishop & Louise Gluck have some great ones. #kidlitchat
2:15 am boylebob: Thanks for the chat. I’m gonna go see what I can Mash-up for dinner! #kidlitchat
2:15 am emilytastic: @Shelltex Agreed. I’m even thinking a small collection/chapbook by one poet could become a great novel in interpretation! #ideas #kidlitchat
2:16 am prufrocke: Hey, there are tons of novelisations of traditional ballads: why not poems? #kidlitchat
2:16 am AmyBaskin: @boylebob Me, too! I’ll go see what I can update or reanimate from my fridge. #kidlitchat Thanks for the great topic. Nighty night.
2:17 am prufrocke: @emilytastic I’ve seen collaborations between poets and artists: similar collabs between poets and fiction writers could happen! #kidlitchat
2:17 am adamselzer: @EgmontGal Falstaff: world’s worst undercover narc! #kidlitchat
2:17 am tinahoggatt: Outta here- we all hung in due to crazy heavy whale action earlier. Have a good week all. #kidlitchat
2:20 am jamesburksart: Off to eat dinner too. Talk to everyone next week. #kidlitchat
2:25 am heidiayarbe: Great stand-alones: Octavian Nothing (MT Anderson) or The Uglies series (Westerfeld) What novel do you WISH had a sequel? #kidlitchat
2:29 am growupwithbooks: @jemifraser I think that the web connection adds another whole layer to the series. #kidlitchat
2:29 am growupwithbooks: @heidiayarbe Had kids at school finish Gollywhopper Games and were LIVID that it was the end. #kidlitchat
2:29 am braydenhirsch: How to get Inspired http://bit.ly/coZ4bW #kidlitchat
2:32 am heidiayarbe: @growupwithbooks Never read it!! LOVE the title, Gollywhopper Games. On the list! #kidlitchat
2:33 am LaFabuliste: Am I too late? What’s the topic? #kidlitchat
3:03 am FuseEight: RT @RebeccAgent: a client of mine is updating The Phantom of the Opera, set in the caribbean. The Jumbee by Pamela Keyes pub’ing this fall. #kidlitchat
3:24 am AmyBaskin: #kidlitchat is over, but just had to mention CLAY by David Almond – a re-imagining of the story of the Golem.

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