Kidlitchat Transcript – March 1

2:01 am bonnieadamson: TOPIC: It’s a business, not just art. What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat
2:01 am KatGirl_Studio: @literaticat it is right now #kidlitchat
2:01 am jenfos: OMG I am signing into chat at the right time. Glory be – how can that be? Hope I can contribute or learn something today. #kidlitchat
2:01 am lisagailgreen: @BonnieAdamson Being negative or rude #kidlitchat #mistake
2:01 am HP4Writers: RT @bonnieadamson: It’s a business, not just art. What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat
2:01 am bonnieadamson: @literaticat #kidlitchat is on!
2:02 am laurapauling: Writers and agents being unprofessional on Twitter. #kidlitchat
2:02 am jlmartin: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: It’s a business, not just art. What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat
2:02 am bonnieadamson: @lisagailgreen That covers a multitude of sins! #kidlitchat #mistake
2:02 am lisagailgreen: @BonnieAdamson LOL so true! But that’s at the heart of it, right? #kidlitchat
2:02 am LoreenLeedy: Chaos! My current goal is to transfer all ideas, info, + writing into Scrivener http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php #kidlitchat
2:03 am jenfos: What an embarrassing topic. I have definitely put my foot in my mouth a few times, not sue I want share the details. #kidlitchat
2:03 am ctrichmond: A big mistake writers can make? Following ONLY their passions without any research on trends, markets, agent/editor tastes. #kidlitchat
2:03 am kellyhashway: @bonnieadamson Authors publicly reacting to negative reviews. Never a good idea. #kidlitchat
2:03 am KRJuchem: How about the person today who queried over 200 people in the same email? #kidlitchat
2:03 am bonnieadamson: @lisagailgreen yes! :-) #kidlitchat
2:03 am KatGirl_Studio: being fearful of technology #kidlitchat
2:03 am bonnieadamson: @KRJuchem oh, dear #kidlitchat
2:03 am HP4Writers: Submitting before a manuscript has had time to fully ripen, is one of mine. #kidlitchat
2:03 am amandahoving: @BonnieAdamson Key professional mistakes? Missing deadlines “because the muse is not cooperating.” #kidlitchat
2:03 am gregpincus: It, #kidlitchat – my network is down. Reduced to phone tweeting/reading
2:03 am lisagailgreen: @KRJuchem OMG Today?? Yikes! #kidlitchat
2:04 am jenunedited: @KRJuchem Wow that’s crazy!! I didn’t know that has happened before!! #kidlitchat
2:04 am mkbrownlow: @BonnieAdamson excited reader told author on fb he bought her book @ discount sale -she flipped b/c she wasn’t making $ off it #kidlitchat
2:04 am jenunedited: @lisagailgreen @krjuchem it’s just scary #kidlitchat
2:04 am stevenmalk: Sending out a mass query mailing to multiple agents at the same time (on the same email). This happens more than you’d guess. #kidlitchat
2:04 am ctrichmond: A big mistake I’ve made: choosing TV over writing far too often. I just love Top Chef and Glee so much! Thank God for DVR. :) #kidlitchat
2:04 am briaquinlan: TOPIC: It’s a business, not just art. What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat
2:04 am KRJuchem: it happened to @laurieabkemeier RT Someone queried me and 232(!) other agents in the same email. Fail. #kidlitchat
2:04 am lisagailgreen: @HP4Writers Tricky business knowing when it’s ready. Balancing act sometimes! #kidlitchat
2:04 am SolomonInkwell: Goodness! Been a while since I’ve been to a good old #kidlitchat!
2:05 am lisagailgreen: @KRJuchem @jenunedited Guess they got a little excited there… :D #kidlitchat
2:05 am SolomonInkwell: Oh no…are we talking about mistakes of which I’ve made many?? #kidlitchat
2:05 am laurielyoung: Hi all! I guess I would say submitting something before it was ready?or overworking it past the point of readiness! #kidlitchat
2:05 am mkbrownlow: @KRJuchem OH MY GRACIOUS! That’s the FIRST thing you learn when you start this journey, isn’t it? #kidlitchat
2:05 am ElissaJanine: yes, I think the public tantrums about bad reviews are the worst. ugh. #kidlitchat
2:06 am dawnmetcalf: Don’t write an agent/ed just to say “Hi” or say what you will offer one day; only query when you have a finished ms ready to go. #kidlitchat
2:06 am briaquinlan: Thinking “Well, my book doesn’t need to sit and then get polished before I query it to all the agents on my list” #kidlitchat
2:06 am laurapauling: Giving up too soon! Query widely #kidlitchat
2:06 am laurielyoung: Oh, me too! RT @ctrichmond: A big mistake Ive made: choosing TV over writing far too often. #kidlitchat
2:06 am bonnieadamson: I think the Twitter-behavior in general is getting better, tho–don’t you? #kidlitchat
2:06 am ctrichmond: Yipes! @stevenmalk Sending out a mass query mailing to multiple agents at the same time (on the same email). #kidlitchat
2:06 am dawnmetcalf: Eek! This. RT @ElissaJanine yes, I think the public tantrums about bad reviews are the worst. ugh. #kidlitchat
2:06 am jenfos: I’m more focused on the mistakes I make when doing the publicity, could be that I saw my new one out for real and sold today. ye #kidlitchat
2:06 am lisagailgreen: True! Just not 200 at once!! LOL RT @laurapauling: Giving up too soon! Query widely #kidlitchat
2:06 am SolomonInkwell: I still say, the worst thing I ever did was attached the wrong MS and addressed it to the wrong agent. PI-TI-FUL. #kidlitchat
2:07 am laurapauling: Sending agents with your full rewrites instead of the opening they liked. #kidlitchat
2:07 am Ceilidhann: RT @dawnmetcalf: Eek! This. RT @ElissaJanine yes, I think the public tantrums about bad reviews are the worst. ugh. #kidlitchat
2:07 am jennymosswrites: I love when people show kindness – no matter in business, online, IRL, wherever ~ works for me #kidlitchat
2:07 am jenfos: @SolomonInkwell Did it get you a “dear author”? or silence? #kidlitchat
2:08 am bonnieadamson: @SolomonInkwell No bad intent there, tho–just unfortunate error. #kidlitchat
2:08 am LoreenLeedy: I’ve been amazed at aspiring writers who don’t follow up when an editor likes a ms but wants to see it revised. #kidlitchat
2:08 am mkbrownlow: @KRJuchem @laurieabkemeier 232?! YIKES that’s insane! #kidlitchat
2:08 am EllenHopkinsYA: @SolomonInkwell #kidlitchat I’d call that amateur…. it gets better, with time.
2:08 am SolomonInkwell: @jenfos – THANK GOD I got a laugh. A pass…but a laugh still. ;-) #kidlitchat
2:08 am KRJuchem: @laurapauling I like that. It’s hard to have faith in yourself while waiting for responses to queries, but never give up! #kidlitchat
2:08 am stevenmalk: I’m always surprised when someone queries me, I request it, and they say it’s not ready yet, and won’t be for awhile. #kidlitchat
2:08 am ctrichmond: Another big mistake I’ve made? Taking critiques WAY too personally and letting them make me stop writing. Thick skin is impt! #kidlitchat
2:09 am MirandaKennealy: Don’t spend all your time working on the query – make sure the book is great, too. #kidlitchat
2:09 am SolomonInkwell: @EllenHopkinsYA – Yes, it was a little embarrasing, but it got a chuckle at the time. You live and you learn NOT to hit send… #kidlitchat
2:09 am SolomonInkwell: RT @MirandaKennealy: Don’t spend all your time working on the query – make sure the book is great, too. #kidlitchat
2:09 am EllenHopkinsYA: @SolomonInkwell #kidlitchat Or, I’d call it too much wine
2:09 am elloecho: Hi guys! Could I ask what the subject is, pretty please? #kidlitchat
2:09 am elanaroth: Oh man, I love this topic. But I *have* to wash the dishes, or I’ll die. Hang tight! #kidlitchat
2:09 am lauram68: @briaquinlan Woah! Just Woah! #kidlitchat
2:09 am briaquinlan: Had a writer snub me at a conf w “I need to network w real ppl” and come back later asking me to intro her to my agent. Um, no. #kidlitchat
2:10 am dosankodebbie: RT @LoreenLeedy I’ve been amazed at aspiring writers who don’t follow up when an editor likes a ms but wants to see it revised. #kidlitchat
2:10 am HP4Writers: @ctrichmond Another mistake similar to taking critiques personally, is getting too many critiques. Too many cooks…in my POV. #kidlitchat
2:10 am SolomonInkwell: @EllenHopkinsYA – Hey! See, I like the way you think, Ellen! :-) #kidlitchat
2:10 am LM_Preston: RT @MirandaKennealy: Don’t spend all your time working on the query – make sure the book is great, too. #kidlitchat
2:10 am ctrichmond: @MirandaKennealy So true! I focused too much on my query when my book still needed work. #kidlitchat
2:10 am adamselzer: Dinner, so no chat for me. See ya at the afterparty! #kidlitchat
2:10 am dawnmetcalf: Always remember: emotions are temporary, but the Internet is searchable forever. #kidlitchat
2:10 am KatGirl_Studio: @ctrichmond in art school we had crit starting day 1 to break us of that. Built those thick skins early. #kidlitchat
2:10 am stevenmalk: A big mistake I see is writers getting too caught up in what others are (or aren’t) doing — find your own path and stick to it. #kidlitchat
2:10 am kristiecookauth: RT @dawnmetcalf: Always remember: emotions are temporary, but the Internet is searchable forever. #kidlitchat
2:10 am LaurelSnyder: Hey, everyone! What’s the chat about tonight? #kidlitchat
2:10 am jenunedited: #kidlitchat this is such a great response!! My first time here *blushes* already learning tons!
2:11 am jenfos: @dosankodebbie @LoreenLeedy Again – Manners do much in this life. #kidlitchat
2:11 am kellyhashway: RT @dawnmetcalf: Always remember: emotions are temporary, but the Internet is searchable forever. #kidlitchat
2:11 am LoreenLeedy: If an editor likes a ms., you drop everything until it?s revised, if you’re serious. #kidlitchat
2:11 am ctrichmond: @HP4Writers That’s a really good point! Sometimes too many critiques just confuse you and sap the life out of your writing. #kidlitchat
2:11 am SolomonInkwell: Another thing I learned a long time ago is NOT to respond to passes unless asked. I’d get a nice pass and want to thank them #kidlitchat
2:11 am jenfos: RT @dawnmetcalf: Always remember: emotions are temporary, but the Internet is searchable forever. #kidlitchat
2:11 am bonnieadamson: @LaurelSnyder unprofessional behavior–share examples #kidlitchat
2:11 am dosankodebbie: Works 4 me too RT @jennymosswrites I love when people show kindness – no matter in business, online, IRL, wherever ~works for me #kidlitchat
2:11 am KRJuchem: I rushed to finish dishes too! haha RT @ElanaRoth Oh man, I love this topic. But I *have* to wash the dishes, or I’ll die. #kidlitchat
2:11 am SolomonInkwell: RT @jenfos: RT @dawnmetcalf: Always remember: emotions are temporary, but the Internet is searchable forever. #kidlitchat
2:11 am HP4Writers: Absolutely! RT @dawnmetcalf: Always remember: emotions are temporary, but the Internet is searchable forever. #kidlitchat
2:11 am jennymosswrites: @stevenmalk I did that at a conf yrs ago (not to you; an editor) – book ended up getting published, but I agree, not a good idea #kidlitchat
2:11 am AuthoressAnon: RT @stevenmalk: A big mistake I see is writers getting too caught up in what others are (or aren’t) doing — find your own path and stick to it. #kidlitchat
2:11 am briaquinlan: I think, personally, I fear letting myself fall into the waiting game again. There’s always the next project. Don’t stand still! #kidlitchat
2:12 am delzey: looking 4word to that day! RT @LoreenLeedy: If an editor likes a ms., you drop everything until it?s revised, if youre serious. #kidlitchat
2:12 am lorcadamon: I can never commit to an age group…is it YA? middle grade? #kidlitchat
2:12 am LaurelSnyder: @bonnieadamson Oh, I’m unprofessional in all *sorts* of ways. #kidlitchat
2:12 am SolomonInkwell: RT @briaquinlan: I think, personally, I fear letting myself fall into the waiting game again. There’s always the next project. Don’t stand still! #kidlitchat
2:12 am DanFriedman81: The biggest mistake you can make is deciding to write a book. #kidlitchat
2:12 am ctrichmond: @KatGirl_Studio Ohh, that is so smart! It’s so true that you need a thick skin to survive in this business. #kidlitchat
2:12 am TweetTheBook: RT @MirandaKennealy: Don’t spend all your time working on the query – make sure the book is great, too. #kidlitchat
2:12 am elloecho: @bonnieadamson Thanks Bonnie! #kidlitchat
2:12 am laurapauling: Forgetting how subjective the whole writing thing is. #kidlitchat
2:12 am KarenCollum: Biggest mistake I *used* to make was subbing too early. Don’t sub while in the I’m-in-love phase of the relationship with MS. #kidlitchat
2:12 am bonnieadamson: @LaurelSnyder :-D #kidlitchat
2:12 am HP4Writers: RT @stevenmalk: A big mistake I see is writers getting too caught up in what others are (or aren’t) doing — find your own path and stick to it. #kidlitchat
2:12 am helainebecker: Snorf RT @DanFriedman81: The biggest mistake you can make is deciding to write a book. #kidlitchat
2:12 am ktkk_heart: RT @dosankodebbie: Works 4 me too RT @jennymosswrites I love when people show kindness – no matter in business, online, IRL, wherever ~works for me #kidlitchat
2:12 am heatherzundel: Wow. Some great advice going on in #kidlitchat tonight.
2:12 am jenfos: RT @DanFriedman81: The biggest mistake you can make is deciding to write a book. – too funny! #kidlitchat
2:12 am robin_talley: Heck yes. RT @DanFriedman81: The biggest mistake you can make is deciding to write a book. #kidlitchat
2:12 am laurapauling: @KarenCollum Wait until you hate it right? #kidlitchat
2:12 am kathrynvento: RT @dosankodebbie: Works 4 me too RT @jennymosswrites I love when people show kindness – no matter in business, online, IRL, wherever ~works for me #kidlitchat
2:13 am dawnmetcalf: RT @stevenmalk A big mistake I see is writers too caught up in what others are/aren’t doing — find your own path & stick to it. #kidlitchat
2:13 am elloecho: I have a professional pet peeve – writers cutting other writers down. Why do this? People need to keep envy in check. #kidlitchat
2:13 am SolomonInkwell: RT @elloecho: I have a professional pet peeve – writers cutting other writers down. Why do this? People need to keep envy in check. #kidlitchat
2:13 am Sayantani16: @SolomonInkwell I usually just write a one-line “thank you for your time and consideration” note after a reject. bad? #kidlitchat
2:13 am kellyhashway: @KarenCollum I completely agree. You need to let the ms sit for awhile and go back and revise more before subbing. #kidlitchat
2:13 am laurielyoung: HA! Too late . . . RT @DanFriedman81: The biggest mistake you can make is deciding to write a book. #kidlitchat
2:13 am delzey: deciding as opposed to actually writing it! RT @DanFriedman81: The biggest mistake you can make is deciding to write a book. #kidlitchat
2:13 am KRJuchem: @elloecho good call. can’t we all help each other? #kidlitchat
2:14 am tehawesomersace: Hello all! Topic? #kidlitchat
2:14 am KatGirl_Studio: @elloecho some people just have the “seek and destroy” gene i guess. I don’t really understand it either. #kidlitchat
2:14 am julianhector: If you ever need to vent about your editor, do it to your agent, NOT the editor #Kidlitchat
2:14 am kellyhashway: @elloecho Yes! We should be supporting each other, not cutting each other down. #kidlitchat
2:14 am SolomonInkwell: @Sayantani16 – I say it’s according to taste. But, the consensus has been to not reply to avoid filling inboxes. ;-) #kidlitchat
2:14 am bonnieadamson: @tehawesomersace TOPIC: What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat
2:14 am MichelleLDevon: RT @dawnmetcalf: Always remember: emotions are temporary, but the Internet is searchable forever. #kidlitchat
2:14 am laurapauling: I always feel bad when writers rip on celebrity books. Am in the minority? #kidlitchat
2:14 am SolomonInkwell: @Sayantani16 – It’s hard, though. Especially when someone is so personal and nice. For those, I don’t think they mind tho :-) #kidlitchat
2:15 am thatlauraruby: @KarenCollum Also hard when you’re in the I-hate-it-I-quit phase!/ Don’t sub while in the I’m-in-love phase. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
2:15 am tehawesomersace: @bonnieadamson Thanks! Wow, that’s a doozy. #kidlitchat
2:15 am CourtneyKoschel: RT @elloecho: I have a professional pet peeve – writers cutting other writers down. Why do this? People need to keep envy in check. #kidlitchat
2:15 am elloecho: I actually think that most kidlit writers are wonderfully supportive, so it makes the mean envious ones really stand out. #kidlitchat
2:15 am HP4Writers: RT @elloecho: I have a professional pet peeve – writers cutting other writers down. Why do this? People need to keep envy in check. #kidlitchat
2:15 am jolantru: RT @dawnmetcalf: RT @stevenmalk A big mistake I see is writers too caught up in what others are/aren’t doing — find your own path & stick to it. #kidlitchat
2:15 am LaurelSnyder: I think the worst mistakes are actually disrespectful ones, not unprofessional ones. I think Treat people decently. #kidlitchat
2:15 am SolomonInkwell: Ooooh…Never hand write anything. Not even an address label. #kidlitchat
2:15 am julianhector: Yes! ;) RT@laurapauling: I always feel bad when writers rip on celebrity books. Am in the minority? #kidlitchat
2:15 am robin_talley: Thinly veiled attacks on other authors always, always, always make the attacker only look bad. #kidlitchat
2:15 am laurapauling: @elloecho I agree. I’ve never found a more supportive group of people than writers. #kidlitchat
2:15 am Sayantani16: @SolomonInkwell eek. good to know. never thought of that. trying to be polite! #kidlitchat
2:15 am marthaflynn: a timely mistake I see: people treating their writing like a hobby instead of a professional. file your taxes accordingly! #kidlitchat
2:15 am delzey: sometimes, from a craft perspective, they deserve it RT @laurapauling: I always feel bad when writers rip on celebrity books. #kidlitchat
2:15 am lizwritesbooks: @julianhector Or your blog/twitter/writer’s org loop. RE: If u ever need to vent abt editor, do it to your agent, NOT the editor #Kidlitchat
2:15 am LoreenLeedy: Once read a query in which the aspiring author compared himself to Seuss… not good. #kidlitchat
2:15 am studiojjk: #kidlitchat Best advice I got in college= Pay no attention to what is hot now. It’ll be gone by the time you get there. Do what you love &..
2:15 am briaquinlan: Not letting go of stuff: Rejections, wait times, old failures. Learn and keep going. Dwelling kills the joy #kidlitchat
2:15 am SolomonInkwell: RT @LaurelSnyder: I think the worst mistakes are actually disrespectful ones, not unprofessional ones. I think Treat people decently. #kidlitchat
2:16 am ctrichmond: @elloecho AGREED! Let’s be happy for one another’s successes! #kidlitchat
2:16 am jennymosswrites: RT @LaurelSnyder: I think worst mistakes r actually disrespectful ones, not unprofessional ones. I think Treat people decently. #kidlitchat
2:16 am lorcadamon: @laurapauling Nope…I will rip the Snooki book until I die! I guess it depends on why they’re hating it? #kidlitchat
2:16 am dosankodebbie: REally? Not even address labels? @SolomonInkwell Ooooh…Never hand write anything. Not even an address label. #kidlitchat
2:16 am studiojjk: #kidlitchat ..your passion will make your work stick out. Oren Sherman. One of my best professors from school.
2:16 am LM_Preston: RT @studiojjk: #kidlitchat Best advice I got in college= Pay no attention to what is hot now. It’ll be gone by the time you get there. Do what you love &..
2:16 am tehawesomersace: I think a lot of writers tend to overshare. I’ve read some blog posts which were total train wrecks, esp. re: bad reviews. #kidlitchat
2:16 am erin_bowman: RT @MirandaKennealy: Don’t spend all your time working on the query – make sure the book is great, too. #kidlitchat
2:16 am dawnmetcalf: Also keep in mind that everyone is in this biz because they love good books. It’s a small world. Good karma & kindness pays off. #kidlitchat
2:16 am elloecho: RT @marthaflynn:a timely mistake: people treating their writing like a hobby instead of professional-file your taxes accordingly #kidlitchat
2:16 am sharifwrites: @laurapauling Yes, it’s the assumption that they’re automatically bad w/o giving them a chance. #kidlitchat
2:16 am LaurelSnyder: @lorcadamon @laurapauling It depends on whether they can write. #kidlitchat
2:16 am lisagailgreen: RT @dawnmetcalf: Also keep in mind that everyone is in this biz because they love good books. It’s a small world. Good karma & kindness pays off. #kidlitchat
2:17 am EisleyJacobs: Join the #kidlitchat going on now! Topic: What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em?
2:17 am KRJuchem: @LaurelSnyder treat people decently. good advice for life AND the writing industry #kidlitchat
2:17 am SusanUhlig: RT @elloecho: I actually think that most kidlit writers are wonderfully supportive, so it makes the mean envious ones really stand out. #kidlitchat
2:17 am stevenmalk: Couldn’t agree more. RT@robin_talley Thinly veiled attacks on other authors always make the attacker only look bad. #kidlitchat
2:17 am gregpincus: OK… tech issues appear solved. I will read up and see what horrible errors I’ve been making :-) #kidlitchat
2:17 am SolomonInkwell: @dosankodebbie – Nope, print everything. I used to be bad about writing out a label… ;-) #kidlitchat
2:17 am sharifwrites: RT @MichelleLDevon: RT @dawnmetcalf: Always remember: emotions are temporary, but the Internet is searchable forever. #kidlitchat
2:17 am julianhector: I always hand draw/write my address labels RT @SolomonInkwell: Ooooh…Never hand write anything. Not even an address label. #kidlitchat
2:17 am Sayantani16: @LorcaDamon @SolomonInkwell Thank you as Southern &Indian immigrant thing. I don’t want to seem rude – it’s a small industry! #kidlitchat
2:17 am LM_Preston: Lo! I so agree :-D RT @SolomonInkwell: Ooooh…Never hand write anything. Not even an address label. #kidlitchat
2:17 am amandahoving: @stevenmalk Good advice! Sometimes it’s hard not to get caught up when there are so many outlets for the daily play-by-play. #kidlitchat
2:17 am bonnieadamson: @gregpincus welcome back! #kidlitchat
2:17 am ctrichmond: Definitely agree with this! @dawnmetcalf RT Good Karma & kindness pays off. #kidlitchat
2:17 am elloecho: @julianhector No I agree, we need to support all books -even celebrity ones cause usually they are ghost written by real writers #kidlitchat
2:17 am dawnmetcalf: Yes! RT @LaurelSnyder …the worst mistakes are actually disrespectful ones, not unprofessional ones. Treat people decently. #kidlitchat
2:17 am LaurelSnyder: @stevenmalk @robin_talley Unless the other writers are just AWFUL. ;) #kidlitchat
2:18 am laurapauling: @julianhector Do you think handwriting an address on an envelope makes a difference? #kidlitchat
2:18 am SolomonInkwell: @julianhector – You know, if you’re an illustrator, that could work, tho… ;-) #kidlitchat
2:18 am lizwritesbooks: RT @dawnmetcalf: Also keep in mind that everyone is in this biz because they love good books. It’s a small world. Good karma & kindness pays off. #kidlitchat
2:18 am LaurelSnyder: @LM_Preston @SolomonInkwell Seriously? I’ve handwritten a ton. #kidlitchat
2:18 am SolomonInkwell: @Sayantani16 – I know ;-) BUT. That is a wonderful flaw to have, I think… #kidlitchat
2:18 am LM_Preston: Writers are people to, make mistakes, show their bad sides, but sometimes forget that putting yourself out there has a price #kidlitchat
2:18 am DanFriedman81: If you are using your blog and Twitter to promote your book, don’t talk about your personal life. #kidlitchat
2:18 am AuthoressAnon: It surprises me that agents often have to counsel their clients what NOT to blog about. As in, editor rejections, whining, etc. #kidlitchat
2:18 am KatGirl_Studio: @laurapauling I hope not, my handwriting looks like a teenage boy’s at best. #kidlitchat
2:18 am LoreenLeedy: Sandra Boynton used 2 send adorable hand-written illustrated letters? editors, etc. hung on their walls. (May still, don’t know) #kidlitchat
2:19 am BryanThomasS: RT @LM_Preston: Writers are people to, make mistakes, show their bad sides, but sometimes forget that putting yourself out there has a price #kidlitchat
2:19 am HP4Writers: One mistake I made early – asked a bestselling author I knew for a cover blurb. She granted it, but said usually agents ask. #kidlitchat
2:19 am KenpoBear: RT @LaurelSnyder: I think the worst mistakes are actually disrespectful ones, not unprofessional ones. I think Treat people decently. #kidlitchat
2:19 am entrebat: RT @dawnmetcalf: Also keep in mind that everyone is in this biz because they love good books. It’s a small world. Good karma & kindness pays off. #kidlitchat
2:19 am LM_Preston: @LaurelSnyder @SolomonInkwell Don’t your fingers hurt from lots of handwriting? #kidlitchat
2:19 am dosankodebbie: @SolomonInkwell but but but, a printed address label seems so unCreative, so imPersonal? I wouldn’t hand write a letter, though. #kidlitchat
2:19 am deegarretson: I don’t like to see people brushing off or ignoring newbies. We were all there once. #kidlitchat
2:19 am SolomonInkwell: @LaurelSnyder – I had to get out of that habit, tho. I know it’s a pain. But…at least its purdy. :-) #kidlitchat
2:19 am dawnmetcalf: Truthfully, I don’t think it’s what’s outside the envelope that counts, it’s what’s inside. Make your query the BEST it can be! #kidlitchat
2:19 am KRJuchem: I sometimes worry that using the internet as much as I do could be a mistake. Do I put too much out there? #kidlitchat
2:19 am bonnieadamson: Um, I’m a hand-addresser, too #kidlitchat
2:19 am KarenCollum: @laurapauling LOL I prefer to think of it as being realistic about its strengths and weaknesses :P #kidlitchat
2:19 am LM_Preston: The price for putting yourself out there is criticism #kidlitchat
2:20 am KarenCollum: RT @DanFriedman81: If you are using your blog and Twitter to promote your book, dont talk about your personal life.<<Guilty #kidlitchat
2:20 am kathleenfoucart: RT @dawnmetcalf: Also keep in mind that everyone is in this biz because they love good books. It’s a small world. Good karma & kindness pays off. #kidlitchat
2:20 am LaurelSnyder: Can I say that I think this list is problematic. Everyone is different. Basic professionalism is one thing, but a to-do list? #kidlitchat
2:20 am LoreenLeedy: Never say anything bad about anyone in the biz… they?ll be your editor/Art Director/Publisher before you know it. #kidlitchat
2:20 am helainebecker: I am too. My printer messes up labels so I gave up on it. RT @BonnieAdamson: Um, I’m a hand-addresser, too #kidlitchat
2:20 am mimicross: @DanFriedman81 #kidlitchat Sometimes a personal touch, learning about an author’s life, etc. is fun. Adds levity. (On how to use your blog)
2:20 am SolomonInkwell: @LM_Preston @LaurelSnyder – I have horrible handwriting… #kidlitchat
2:20 am SusanUhlig: RT @dawnmetcalf: Truthfully, I dont think its whats outside the envelope that counts… Make your query the BEST it can be! #kidlitchat
2:20 am elloecho: @KRJuchem I think it’s good to worry cause it will help keep us in check. Not worrying is when people get way TMI. #kidlitchat
2:20 am KRJuchem: @deegarretson Thanks, that made me feel better! (I’m a newbie) #kidlitchat
2:20 am Jane_George: RT @marthaflynn: a timely mistake I see: people treating their writing like a hobby instead of a professional. file your taxes accordingly! #kidlitchat
2:20 am KatGirl_Studio: Yes it is RT @LM_Preston: The price for putting yourself out there is criticism #kidlitchat
2:20 am KarenCollum: Mistake for today: Thinking I can join in #kidlitchat while toddler twins have lunch & I cuddle newborn… #timezonedilemmas #kidlitchat
2:20 am sharifwrites: @SolomonInkwell Me, too. I type everything. I don’t even want to jot down a little note. #kidlitchat
2:20 am SolomonInkwell: @dosankodebbie – :-) #kidlitchat
2:20 am KateMessner: If you are writing books for kids, don’t forget that teachers & students will also come across your blog. Is it kid-friendly? #kidlitchat
2:21 am helainebecker: Well said. RT @KatGirl_Studio: Yes it is RT @LM_Preston: The price for putting yourself out there is criticism #kidlitchat
2:21 am dawnmetcalf: Good communication is key. If someone offers, tell everyone considering the ms about it ASAP. It’s fair, polite & honest. #kidlitchat
2:21 am AuthoressAnon: RT @KateMessner: If you are writing books for kids, don’t forget that teachers & students will also come across your blog. Is it kid-friendly? #kidlitchat
2:21 am KatieDavisBurps: RT @LoreenLeedy: Never say anything bad about anyone in the biz-they?ll be yr editor/Art Director/Publisher before you know it. #kidlitchat
2:21 am DanFriedman81: You should set your entire personal Facebook profile to be accessible by friends only. Use a different public page for your book #kidlitchat
2:21 am deegarretson: @KRJuchem Welcome! this is a good place for lots of information. #kidlitchat
2:21 am SolomonInkwell: @sharifwrites – I know, my friends say I have the handwriting of a serial killer…not good. #kidlitchat
2:21 am LaurelSnyder: @KateMessner Yes, this! I think personal is okay, but it needs to be something your gma can read. #kidlitchat
2:21 am KatieDavisBurps: What’s the topic tonight, tweeps? #kidlitchat
2:21 am gregpincus: I echo @LaurelSnyder – disrespect is bad (in all directions of our field). #kidlitchat
2:21 am dawnmetcalf: You & your writing. RT @KatGirl_Studio: Yes it is RT @LM_Preston: The price for putting yourself out there is criticism. #kidlitchat
2:21 am laurapauling: @SolomonInkwell Unless you’re writing about a serial killer. #kidlitchat
2:21 am jennymosswrites: RT @KateMessner: If u r writing bks for kids, dont forget teachers & students will also come across ur blog. Is it kid-friendly? #kidlitchat
2:21 am aecbks: RT @KatieDavisBurps: RT @LoreenLeedy: Never say anything bad about anyone in the biz-they?ll be yr editor/Art Director/Publisher before you know it. #kidlitchat
2:21 am mimicross: @KarenCollum Think it’s okay to talk about your personal life on your blog or site, even if they are there to promote your work. #kidlitchat
2:21 am RebeccaEvansArt: I’m new to #kidlitchat tonight but I always cringe when someone hands work to an editor and says “It’s not where I want it to be yet but…
2:22 am elloecho: Also, unless you’re a medical doctor, giving detailed descriptions of your colonoscopy and other personal stuff is TMI #kidlitchat
2:22 am LM_Preston: @helainebecker @KatGirl_Studio Thanks, we sometimes forget that, lol #kidlitchat a bad cycle of rejection &crits #kidlitchat @dawnmetcalf
2:22 am KOrtizzle: RT @KateMessner: If you are writing books for kids, don’t forget that teachers & students will also come across your blog. Is it kid-friendly? #kidlitchat
2:22 am bonnieadamson: @KatieDavisBurps TOPIC: What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat
2:22 am kellyhashway: @DanFriedman81 I just did this this week. :) #kidlitchat
2:22 am SolomonInkwell: RT @laurapauling: SO TRUE! :-) #kidlitchat
2:22 am marylindsey: Well said! RT @LM_Preston The price for putting yourself out there is criticism #kidlitchat
2:22 am ctrichmond: Don’t place all your eggs in one project. Write more books! Publishing is a business & books are your products. Sell products! #kidlitchat
2:22 am dawnmetcalf: @SolomonInkwell @sharifwrites Hey, at least it’s a series… ;-) #kidlitchat
2:22 am briaquinlan: RT @elloecho: Also, unless you’re a medical doctor, giving detailed descriptions of your colonoscopy and other personal stuff is TMI #kidlitchat
2:22 am MirandaKennealy: Even if you don’t agree with a critique of your work, or someone takes time to give advice, always say thank you. #kidlitchat
2:22 am erin_bowman: @ctrichmond @dawnmetcalf Totally agree. What goes around comes around. Help others and they’ll help you in return! #kidlitchat
2:22 am julianhector: I prefer the personal touch @laurapauling: @julianhector Do you think handwriting an address on an envelope makes a difference? #kidlitchat
2:22 am KRJuchem: very important! (I say this as a teacher) @KateMessner RT don’t forget that teachers & students will also come across your blog. #kidlitchat
2:22 am lisabrowndraws: Hey all, lost track of time but I’m here, finally! #kidlitchat
2:22 am cindypon: @DanFriedman81 i disagree. why can’t an author promote her book and be personal too? its the point of Social Networking. #kidlitchat
2:22 am aecbks: RT @KateMessner: If you are writing books for kids, don’t forget that teachers & students will also come across your blog. Is it kid-friendly? #kidlitchat
2:22 am SolomonInkwell: @dawnmetcalf – HA! That is true! #kidlitchat
2:22 am mkbrownlow: @DanFriedman81 Like this advice! Thank you! #kidlitchat
2:22 am LM_Preston: @marylindsey Thanks #kidlitchat you’d think we’d be rough and tough but we are really softies
2:23 am KarenCollum: @mimicross Just interesting hearing diff opinions. I buy books written by people I interact with online who interact… #kidlitchat
2:23 am tehawesomersace: I think you need to have a nice balance of personal and promotion on Twitter/blog. Every tweet shouldn’t try to sell your book. #kidlitchat
2:23 am Sayantani16: @mimicross @DanFriedman81 Agree re: some personal stuff on blog. Not whining abt industry or over-sharing, but being a real #kidlitchat
2:23 am mimicross: #kidlitchat I don’t mean DETAILS of your personal life (grinning) but mixing it up is ok & entertaining for all.
2:23 am dawnmetcalf: @LM_Preston @helainebecker @KatGirl_Studio Well, no one likes rejection, but everyone likes a good match for a good book! #kidlitchat
2:23 am jenfos: RT @KateMessner: If writing books for kids, dont forget teachers & students will also come across your blog. Is it kid-friendly? #kidlitchat
2:23 am KatieDavisBurps: Don’t read bad reviews. Believe all good ones. 8-) #kidlitchat
2:23 am DeniseMSwank: RT @MirandaKennealy: Even if you don’t agree with a critique of your work, or someone takes time to give advice, always say thank you. #kidlitchat
2:23 am marylindsey: RT @KRJuchem: very important! (I say this as a teacher) @KateMessner RT don’t forget that teachers & students will also come across your blog. #kidlitchat
2:23 am cindypon: @DanFriedman81 i’d be bored within an hour on twitter, fb, my blog if all i did was promote my books? #kidlitchat
2:23 am lisabrowndraws: My 2 cents: if you are writing a picture book and are NOT an illustrator too, don’t find someone to illustrate the MS #kidlitchat amateurish
2:23 am bonnieadamson: @julianhector lol–I think it’s WEIRD for an illustrator to type everything. :-D #kidlitchat
2:23 am jemifraser: I like that! :) RT @KatieDavisBurps: Don’t read bad reviews. Believe all good ones. 8-) #kidlitchat
2:23 am jenfos: @tehawesomersace I agree. If it is all promotion – there is no personality. #kidlitchat
2:23 am KatGirl_Studio: @KarenCollum me too. #kidlitchat
2:23 am ifollowthenight: RT @MirandaKennealy: Even if you don’t agree with a critique of your work, or someone takes time to give advice, always say thank you. #kidlitchat
2:23 am ctrichmond: @elloecho WHAT? I thought you liked reading about my colonoscopy and medical exams! Now my feelings are hurt. :) #kidlitchat
2:23 am KatieDavisBurps: Think globally. Support *other* people. #kidlitchat
2:23 am lisabrowndraws: Perfect advice. RT @KatieDavisBurps: Don’t read bad reviews. Believe all good ones. 8-) #kidlitchat
2:23 am julianhector: I usually fully illustrate them ;) @SolomonInkwell – You know, if you’re an illustrator, that could work, tho… ;-) #kidlitchat
2:23 am elanaroth: Okay. I’m back. What’d I miss? #kidlitchat
2:23 am mkbrownlow: @KarenCollum glad you tried #kidlitchat
2:23 am ElissaJanine: hm, I tweet and blog about my “personal” life. I’m not sure what else I would write about…esp. because writing IS personal. #kidlitchat
2:24 am HP4Writers: RT @KateMessner: If you are writing books for kids, don’t forget that teachers & students will also come across your blog. Is it kid-friendly? #kidlitchat
2:24 am sharifwrites: @tehawesomersace Tweets that are all promotional and links turn people off. Balance is right. #kidlitchat
2:24 am tehawesomersace: Yes. RT @Sayantani16: Agree re: some personal stuff on blog. Not whining abt industry or over-sharing, but being a real #kidlitchat
2:24 am mimicross: @Sayantani16 Lol! Yes, please no whining! #kidlitchat
2:24 am MirandaKennealy: @ctrichmond I need to remember that one more often. I don’t have enough products LOL. :) #kidlitchat
2:24 am richardlevangie: I’m writing a series about authors, websites, and promotion, should anyone be interested. http://bit.ly/hN8FUP #amwriting #kidlitchat
2:24 am amandahoving: @KRJuchem @KateMessner …and the parents of your students! #kidlitchat
2:24 am f_rancesca: RT @KatieDavisBurps: Dont read bad reviews. Believe all good ones. 8-) > I like this v much. It’s a plan! #kidlitchat
2:24 am kellyandrewsPA: @tehawesomersace I don’t understand why writers promote the same books everyday to the same followers #kidlitchat
2:24 am KatieDavisBurps: Don’t do things you hate: school visits, blogging, tweeting, whatever. It’ll show. You gotta fully love what you do. #kidlitchat
2:24 am briaquinlan: If you don’t know the difference between personal life and private life, don’t blog it. TMI is a skinny line #kidlitchat
2:24 am helainebecker: Yes – need to use common sense. RT @sharifwrites: Tweets that are all promotional and links turn people off. Balance is right. #kidlitchat
2:24 am KatGirl_Studio: @LM_Preston I guess it’s be fearless or stop playing. #kidlitchat
2:24 am LM_Preston: Who wants to promote all the time? There’s too many people to talk to on twitter, FB and blogs to not b yrslf #kidlitchat
2:24 am dawnmetcalf: @erin_bowman @ctrichmond The tech genius who is helping me with my website is someone I randomly helped with their query. :-) #kidlitchat
2:24 am gregpincus: Something that irks me is when writers and artists undervalue our work. We create. That rocks. #kidlitchat
2:24 am KaiStrand: @ixtumea Yeah, I hate that ;-) #kidlitchat
2:24 am lisagailgreen: Everyone makes mistakes at 1st, it’s part of the learning process. But taking things slow, &learning all U can helps cut down #kidlitchat
2:24 am elloecho: @ctrichmond Well you can write about anything and I’d read it! #kidlitchat
2:24 am bonnieadamson: @ElanaRoth TOPIC: What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat
2:24 am AuthoressAnon: Speaking of student-friendly: sends yours to our new teen writer forum! Today: Ask the editor w/ @EgmontUSA ! #kidlitchat
2:25 am Sayantani16: @cindypon @DanFriedman81 @mimicross Agree – isn’t it personal style/choice (ie. having recipes as well as book stuff on blog?) :) #kidlitchat
2:25 am tehawesomersace: @sharifwrites Yes. Don’t tell me about Uncle Larry’s bypass, but don’t spam me with all of your reviews. Balance. #kidlitchat
2:25 am helainebecker: RT @briaquinlan: If you don’t know the difference between personal life and private life, don’t blog it. TMI is a skinny line #kidlitchat
2:25 am mimicross: @KarenCollum Yes I agree! #kidlitchat
2:25 am ctrichmond: @MirandaKennealy Granted, sometimes my “products” are really, really crappy… :) #kidlitchat
2:25 am DanFriedman81: Don’t talk about any rejections online. You are not anonymous on Internet writer forums where you’ve discussed your book. #kidlitchat
2:25 am LaurelSnyder: You can do anything on a blog if you are smart and funny enough while you do it. #justlikewritingabook #kidlitchat
2:25 am f_rancesca: RT @gregpincus: Sthg that irks me is when writers and artists undervalue our work. We create. That rocks. > This tweet rocks! #kidlitchat
2:25 am KatieDavisBurps: And NEVER slip a mss under and editor’s bathroom stall door. LOL. But not really LOLing. #kidlitchat
2:25 am dosankodebbie: RT @MirandaKennealy Even if you don’t agree w/ a critique of ur work, or someone takes time to give advice, always say thank you #kidlitchat
2:25 am lisabrowndraws: RT @LaurelSnyder: You can do anything on a blog if you are smart and funny enough while you do it. #justlikewritingabook #kidlitchat
2:25 am jemifraser: Agreed! :) RT @lisagailgreen: Everyone makes mistakes at 1st – But taking things slow, &learning all U can helps cut down #kidlitchat
2:25 am SolomonInkwell: Ah…Don’t go solely on Publishers Marketplace, AgentQuery, or resource books. Always check a website for requirements, too. #kidlitchat
2:25 am thatlauraruby: @f_rancesca @KatieDavisBurps Dont read bad reviews./I have a friend vet all reviews for me, and only tell me the good stuff. #kidlitchat
2:25 am LM_Preston: Another write mistakes is letting others still your positivity to the point you give up #kidlitchat and internalize crits
2:25 am MirandaKennealy: @ctrichmond Touche… Touche… #kidlitchat
2:25 am KarenCollum: @mkbrownlow Thanks! Twins are happily munching on a banana but Miss H here really does need a feed :) #kidlitchat
2:25 am elloecho: Exactly! RT @briaquinlan If you don’t know the difference between personal life &private life, don’t blog it-TMI is skinny line #kidlitchat
2:25 am McGough3R: RT @helainebecker: RT @briaquinlan: If you don’t know the difference between personal life and private life, don’t blog it. TMI is a skinny line #kidlitchat
2:26 am tehawesomersace: @kellyandrewsPA I’ve unfollowed authors who were tweeting their book links ALL THE TIME. What else have you seen/read/done? #kidlitchat
2:26 am mike_jung: Agreed. RT @LaurelSnyder: You can do anything on a blog if you are smart and funny enough while you do it. #justlikewritingabook #kidlitchat
2:26 am helainebecker: Biggest mistake many of us make? Not understanding that we are entrepeneurs, and need to be businesslike in how we do things #kidlitchat
2:26 am SolomonInkwell: @julianhector – See, then that is awesome and good selling point for you. I wish I cold draw! :-) #kidlitchat
2:26 am f_rancesca: @thatlauraruby That is actually a brilliant idea, and one I shall steal if I ever have reviews of any kind! #kidlitchat
2:26 am Sayantani16: RT @lisabrowndraws: RT @LaurelSnyder: You can do anything on a blog if you are smart and funny enough while you do it. #justlikewritingabook #kidlitchat
2:26 am BookEditorLM: RT @KateMessner: If you are writing books for kids, don’t forget that teachers & students will also come across your blog. Is it kid-friendly? #kidlitchat
2:26 am erin_bowman: YES! Agents want 2 rep a writer for their career, not 1 book RT @ctrichmond Dont place all eggs in 1 project. Write more books! #kidlitchat
2:26 am lisabrowndraws: @LaurelSnyder Hello my friend! #kidlitchat
2:26 am ek_anderson: Hi everyone! Just remembered #kidlitchat was on….does anyone wanna catch me up? #kidlitchat
2:26 am KarenCollum: RT @SolomonInkwell: . Yes! Made a list of potential PB agents in 2010. Was ready to sub only to discover 1 retired. #kidlitchat
2:26 am Delta_Cove: Honestly, I don’t follow people who just promote books. To me, you’re just another bot #lurking in #kidlitchat
2:26 am marylindsey: RT @elloecho: Exactly! RT @briaquinlan If you don’t know the difference between personal life &private life, don’t blog it-TMI is skinny line #kidlitchat
2:26 am elanaroth: Professional mistakes…if you have an agent, they’re your first phone call. Like CJ on West Wing. Not your editor. #kidlitchat
2:26 am KatieDavisBurps: When giving a critique, remember to give the Happy Sandwich: This part is good. This part needs work. This part is good. #kidlitchat
2:27 am SarahDarerLitt: Don’t respond to a bad blog review on the blog. They’re entitled to their opinion in their own space. #kidlitchat
2:27 am bonnieadamson: @ek_anderson TOPIC: What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
2:27 am lisagailgreen: Oh and spam! Ugh, I hate when someone doesn’t interact at all or tweet quality stuff just their own book…. #kidlitchat #preaching2thechoir
2:27 am mike_jung: @julianhector I’m here! Sporadically! Hungry children demanding sustenance but I’m here! Sorta! #Kidlitchat
2:27 am LM_Preston: Stars sale a ton of books, it works for them and someone’s buying their stuff. If I could pub em an make $ I would 2 #kidlitchat
2:27 am KatieDavisBurps: RT @elanaroth: Professional mistakes. if u have an agent, theyre your first phone call. Like CJ on West Wing. Not your editor. #kidlitchat
2:27 am NiaRaie: Please do not retweet EVERY. SINGLE. review or comment about your book from every Tom, Dick & Harry. #kidlitchat
2:27 am lisabrowndraws: @ek_anderson TOPIC: What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat
2:27 am KarenCollum: @KatieDavisBurps Happy Sandwich. I like that :) #kidlitchat
2:27 am studiojjk: #kidlitchat My wife was once changing a poopy diaper when someone handed her promotional material at a conference. Don’t do that.
2:27 am SolomonInkwell: @KarenCollum – Yep, I had to double check a bunch a stuff, too. It’s a pain, but worth it #kidlitchat
2:27 am robin_talley: RT @ctrichmond: Don’t place all your eggs in one project. Write more books! Publishing is a business & books are your products. #kidlitchat
2:27 am dawnmetcalf: Don’t just talk about yourself/your book. Blog/Tweet/Tumbl about great books you’ve read or incredible people you’ve met! #kidlitchat
2:27 am LaurelSnyder: @elanaroth Yes, and if you think your agent might not like an email you’re sending, you MUST bcc her. #keepsyoucareful #kidlitchat
2:27 am mimicross: Spent too much time online today, goodnight all, & thanks! #eyesclosing #kidlitchat
2:27 am KatieDavisBurps: Don’t just go on a blog to get something. Really connect. #kidlitchat
2:27 am kellypolark: @KatieDavisBurps Love the term Happy Sandwich! #kidlitchat
2:27 am KatGirl_Studio: @KatieDavisBurps Oh god I remember the happy sandwich thing LOL #kidlitchat
2:27 am KarenCollum: I saw someone recently tweet something along the lines of ‘agents DM me – I have great MS for you’. I cringed :( #kidlitchat
2:28 am LM_Preston: Oh, another mistake I’ve seen authors make is to blast book reviewers…Are they serious? I cringe when I see that #kidlitchat
2:28 am KatieDavisBurps: @studiojjk That was risky! #kidlitchat
2:28 am mkbrownlow: Is it a mistake to do “sneak peek excerpts” of your WIPs on your blog? I like the feedback but don’t wanna spoil an opportunity #kidlitchat
2:28 am julianhector: This happens, too! @KatieDavisBurps: And NEVER slip a mss under and editor’s bathroom stall door. LOL. But not really LOLing. #kidlitchat
2:28 am LoreenLeedy: Bad reviews? Never had any…ha! Often a completely contrary (good) opinion is expressed in another review, always helpful. #kidlitchat
2:34 am f_rancesca: RT @SolomonInkwell: TAKE NOTHING PERSONALLY. Imagine all the stuff agents/editors have to read each day > good advice, but hard! #kidlitchat
2:34 am KarenCollum: @SarahDarerLitt @mike_jung I told 5 yr old he could take my PB to school if he wanted. “I don’t want to,” was reply. :P #kidlitchat
2:34 am elanaroth: @LaurelSnyder @elanaroth @lisabrowndraws I’m not talking DETAILS. I’m talking problems. Issues. Things authors overreact about. #kidlitchat
2:34 am EgmontGal: OMG, are we talking critiques? This is my dream subject, I have a lot to say. But someone please confirm. #kidlitchat
2:34 am mike_jung: @elloecho I’m sure a bunch of people think I’m not funny. And they’re not wrong! Funny is TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE. #kidlitchat
2:34 am bonnyglen: @Gwenda @KateMessner @laurelsnyder Three cheers for Laurel and PENNY indeed!! Fabulous news. #kidlitchat
2:34 am ek_anderson: @tehawesomersace Take that a step further: read tons in your area, but read outside your box, too. It might lead to a fab idea. #kidlitchat
2:34 am tehawesomersace: @helainebecker Or write the email/post/comment and then delete it. That way it’s out of your system. #kidlitchat
2:34 am lisabrowndraws: Oops. I have to go. RT @KatieDavisBurps: Don’t drunk tweet! #kidlitchat
2:34 am KatieDavisBurps: @KateMessner @LaurelSnyder What? What? What news?! #kidlitchat
2:34 am elanaroth: @lisabrowndraws Hey, we’re still there when your editor doesn’t buy your next book! #kidlitchat
2:35 am elanaroth: @EgmontGal No, professional mistakes not to make. But close. #kidlitchat
2:35 am cindypon: @elloecho dont do *anything* unless you like it w social media and online stuff. life is too short. #kidlitchat
2:35 am BrighterScribe: RT @ek_anderson: I’ve said it a jillion times: be as positive and kind as possible in your social media. No one likes a Negative Nancy. #kidlitchat
2:35 am lisabrowndraws: And the next, and the next! RT @ElanaRoth: @lisabrowndraws Hey, we’re still there when your editor doesn’t buy your next book! #kidlitchat
2:35 am KeishaLMartin: @EgmontGal ROTFL so true. #kidlitchat
2:35 am lisabrowndraws: WHAT?? RT @LaurelSnyder: @KateMessner That’s unprofessional, Kate! #butthankssomuch <blushes> #kidlitchat
2:35 am KatieDavisBurps: @EgmontGal Nope – mistakes people have made in the biz. #kidlitchat
2:35 am f_rancesca: RT @KateMessner: Can we cheer for @laurelsnyder? PENNY DREADFUL was just named a finalist for E.B. White Read Aloud Award!>YAY! #kidlitchat
2:35 am Bulletwisdom: RT @elanaroth: Professional mistakes…if you have an agent, they’re your first phone call. Like CJ on West Wing. Not your editor. #kidlitchat
2:35 am ek_anderson: Honestly, I say read anything you can get your hands on. Everything you read will teach you what to do and what NOT to do. 1/2 #kidlitchat
2:35 am EgmontGal: Well, Grandiosity is a newby mistake. Hand to heart, I have heard 100 times “This is like the Hunger Games…” #kidlitchat
2:35 am tristanbancks: Nuggets of golden advice from authors, agents and publishers being delivered over at #kidlitchat
2:35 am BethAndHerBooks: RT @KOrtizzle: Agreed RT @NiaRaie: Please do not retweet EVERY. SINGLE. review or comment about your book from every Tom, Dick & Harry. #kidlitchat
2:35 am LoreenLeedy: Being too influenced by well-meaning advice that is too rigid. Many ways to “break the rules” in a good way. Start new paradigm. #kidlitchat
2:35 am lisabrowndraws: Professional mistakes. RT @EgmontGal: OMG, are we talking critiques? But someone please confirm. #kidlitchat
2:35 am kellylight: @KatieDavisBurps unless you want to ask John Cusack….. #Kidlitchat
2:35 am KateMessner: @KatieDavisBurps Laurel’s book PENNY DREADFUL is a finalist for the E.B. White Award! #kidlitchat
2:35 am EgmontGal: RT @elanaroth: @lisabrowndraws Hey, were still there when your editor doesnt buy your next book! #kidlitchat
2:35 am Sayantani16: @EgmontGal we’re talking professional mistakes – taking critiques badly, TMI on blogs, multi-queries, etc. #kidlitchat
2:35 am dawnmetcalf: RT @SolomonInkwell TAKE NOTHING PERSONALLY. … Imagine all the stuff agents/eds read each day. My eyes would fall out! #kidlitchat
2:36 am tehawesomersace: @ek_anderson That’s even better. But I have low expectations :) #kidlitchat
2:36 am BethAndHerBooks: RT @dawnmetcalf: Don’t just talk about yourself/your book. Blog/Tweet/Tumbl about great books you’ve read or incredible people you’ve met! #kidlitchat
2:36 am elloecho: So true! RT @cindypon dont do *anything* unless you like it w social media and online stuff. life is too short. #kidlitchat
2:36 am cvaldezmiller: Yes! RT @dawnmetcalf keep in mind everyone is in biz cause they love good books. small world. Good karma & kindness pays off #kidlitchat
2:36 am ek_anderson: But don’t go online & bash the bks that taught you what not to do. That’s bad news bears if you’re seeking an agent/editor. 2/2 #kidlitchat
2:36 am jennymosswrites: Yay!! RT @KateMessner: @KatieDavisBurps Laurels book PENNY DREADFUL is a finalist for the E.B. White Award! #kidlitchat
2:36 am LaurelSnyder: @elanaroth @LaurelSnyder @lisabrowndraws Oh, I’m with you! ALso, I just love my agent a lot. #kidlitchat
2:36 am mike_jung: @SarahDarerLitt Yup. My 4.5 tear old? Now SHE’S funny. #kidlitchat
2:36 am interactiver: RT @KateMessner: Slightly off topic-but can we cheer for @laurelsnyder? PENNY DREADFUL was just named a finalist for E.B. White Read Aloud Award! #kidlitchat
2:36 am Sayantani16: RT @thatlauraruby: @KatieDavisBurps @KateMessner @LaurelSnyder Penny Dreadful an EB White Award Finalist! #kidlitchat
2:36 am lisabrowndraws: Overreaact? Authors? Never. :) RT @ElanaRoth: @LaurelSnyder I’m talking problems. Issues. Things authors overreact about. #kidlitchat
2:36 am elloecho: @mike_jung They’re even more correct if they think I’m funnier! ;o) #kidlitchat
2:36 am EgmontGal: I think people can take our advice TOO literally. It’s a guideline, it’s feedback. It’s not a color-by-numbers instruction list #kidlitchat
2:36 am gregpincus: @mkbrownlow If you can see a path to doing those things, it’s great. But just posting without a plan, prolly a waste. #kidlitchat
2:37 am DanFriedman81: Treat every blog and tweet as something you are writing for an audience. Try not to embarrass yourself too much. #kidlitchat
2:37 am dawnmetcalf: RT @jennymosswrites: Yay!! RT @KateMessner: @KatieDavisBurps Laurels book PENNY DREADFUL is a finalist for the E.B. White Award! #kidlitchat
2:37 am heatherzenzen: LOVE THIS. RT @briaquinlan: I’m a huge believer in Good Gossip…. spread the positive about fellow writers! #kidlitchat
2:37 am KarenCollum: Take your mother’s advice: If you don’t have something nice to say… #kidlitchat
2:37 am LaFabuliste: Errors! I am a survivor of the slush pile. Come gather ’round. #kidlitchat
2:37 am SarahDarerLitt: *looks behind* RT @robin_talley: Remember, most of the time the world/industry isnt conspiring against you. #exceptforwhenitis #kidlitchat
2:37 am KatApel: RT @DanFriedman81: Treat every blog and tweet as something you are writing for an audience. Try not to embarrass yourself too much. #kidlitchat
2:37 am ek_anderson: @tehawesomersace We need to work on your delusions of grandeur and your unadulterated optimism. #kidlitchat
2:37 am lisabrowndraws: Agree RT @briaquinlan: I’m a huge believer in Good Gossip…. spread the positive about fellow writers! #kidlitchat
2:37 am tehawesomersace: @ek_anderson Even a terrible book has something to teach us. #themoreyouknow #kidlitchat
2:37 am SolomonInkwell: RT @DanFriedman81: Treat every blog and tweet as something you are writing for an audience. Try not to embarrass yourself too much. #kidlitchat
2:37 am sbrezenoff: Can I still wear my “And then Buffy stakes Edward. The End.” T-shirt in public? #kidlitchat
2:37 am EllenHopkinsYA: @ek_anderson PULEASE can I bash them? Okay, I won’t. #kidlitchat
2:37 am giamateau: So True! RT @KatApel: The times I’ve thought a MS was *finished* dig it out 6mths later and there is still something to polish. #kidlitchat
2:37 am LaurelSnyder: @bonnyglen @Gwenda @KateMessner Thanks to all of you. LOve! #kidlitchat
2:37 am jennymosswrites: @elanaroth Authors overreact? ;) #kidlitchat
2:37 am EgmontGal: I wish newbies wouldn’t try so hard to be trendy, that’s for sure. #kidlitchat
2:37 am LaFabuliste: #1: Make sure you get the right editor name. #1.1: Make sure you know if the editor is male or female. #kidlitchat
2:37 am lisabrowndraws: <bows to you> RT @LaFabuliste: Errors! I am a survivor of the slush pile. Come gather ’round. #kidlitchat
2:37 am KristineAsselin: RT @KateMessner: Slightly off topic-but can we cheer for @laurelsnyder? PENNY DREADFUL was just named a finalist for E.B. White Read Aloud Award! #kidlitchat
2:37 am kellylight: Have off line people – who you can whine to face- to face when the art director is making you nuts #Kidlitchat
2:37 am lisabrowndraws: RT @EgmontGal: I wish newbies wouldn’t try so hard to be trendy, that’s for sure. #kidlitchat
2:38 am ek_anderson: @EgmontGal But what if I really AM writing the next HUNGER GAMES? :( #kidlitchat
2:38 am janellealexandr: RT @KOrtizzle: Agreed RT @NiaRaie: Please do not retweet EVERY. SINGLE. review or comment about your book from every Tom, Dick & Harry. #kidlitchat
2:38 am KateMessner: Such sage advice for online, too. RT @KarenCollum: Take your mothers advice: If you dont have something nice to say… #kidlitchat
2:38 am f_rancesca: RT @DanFriedman81: Treat every blog and tweet as something you are writing for an audience. > Thinking of audience is important. #kidlitchat
2:38 am dawnmetcalf: Yes! RT @heatherzenzen LOVE THIS RT @briaquinlan I’m a huge believer in Good Gossip….spread the positive about fellow writers! #kidlitchat
2:38 am SolomonInkwell: @ek_anderson – Right? :-) #kidlitchat
2:38 am Sayantani16: RT @sbrezenoff: Can I still wear my “And then Buffy stakes Edward. The End.” T-shirt in public? #kidlitchat
2:38 am EgmontGal: I think it’s really ok to ask questions, just don’t ask for “tell me how to do everything.” #kidlitchat
2:38 am deegarretson: @LM_Preston @ek_anderson Now I’m envisioning a series about Negative Nancy, the evil twin of Fancy Nancy #kidlitchat
2:38 am mkbrownlow: @KarenCollum HA HAHA HAHA ENTHUSIASTIC? THAT’S NOT A GOOD THING? TO DO ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME AND SAY WOOHOO LOTS AND LOTS? lol! #kidlitchat
2:38 am lisabrowndraws: RT @DanFriedman81: Treat every blog and tweet as something you are writing for an audience. Thinking of audience is important. #kidlitchat
2:38 am EllenHopkinsYA: VERY IMPORTANT. RT @DanFriedman81: Treat every blog and tweet as something you are writing for an audience. #kidlitchat
2:38 am f_rancesca: RT @sbrezenoff: Can I still wear my “And then Buffy stakes Edward. The End.” T-shirt in public? > Only if I can have one too. #kidlitchat
2:38 am KatieDavisBurps: @LaurelSnyder Penny Dreadful an EB White Award Finalist! WOW! #kidlitchat
2:38 am AudryT: @EgmontGal I think sometimes folks are too eager to please, and put their own vision at risk following the advice of others. #kidlitchat
2:38 am laurielyoung: Ooh, where can I get one? RT @sbrezenoff: Can I still wear my “And then Buffy stakes Edward. The End.” T-shirt in public? #kidlitchat
2:38 am ek_anderson: @EllenHopkinsYA I’d say that when ur ELLEN HOPKINS u can do whatever you want. But, since you’re EH, you’re too nice to do so! #kidlitchat
2:39 am Marty_Chan: Biggest mistake? Assuming your job’s done once your book is published. Writers must promote own work. #kidlitchat
2:39 am LaFabuliste: @EgmontGal Exactly. And there’s no need to want to be “edgy” or to know how to “best market” your book. Just write for now. #kidlitchat
2:39 am tehawesomersace: @ek_anderson The delusions of grandeur are good. I’m like Charlie Sheen when it comes to my own awesomeness ;) #kidlitchat
2:39 am LM_Preston: @deegarretson @ek_anderson #kidlitchat or a book on author etiquette
2:39 am SolomonInkwell: RT @LaFabuliste: @EgmontGal Exactly. And there’s no need to want to be “edgy” or to know how to “best market” your book. Just write for now. #kidlitchat
2:39 am NiaRaie: Pls dont give critiques (esp. neg.1s) when a blogger shares WIP if blogger only wanted to share & didn’t request a critique #kidlitchat
2:39 am lisabrowndraws: Retweeting good news RIGHT NOW! YAY!!! RT @KatieDavisBurps: @LaurelSnyder Penny Dreadful an EB White Award Finalist! WOW! #kidlitchat
2:39 am dawnmetcalf: Put your perfect ms away for 4-6 weeks and do something else. Then come back and read it aloud before you send it off! #kidlitchat
2:39 am fiteach: RT @KateMessner: Slightly off topic-but can we cheer for @laurelsnyder? PENNY DREADFUL was just named a finalist for E.B. White Read Aloud Award! #kidlitchat
2:39 am SolomonInkwell: RT @Marty_Chan: Biggest mistake? Assuming your job’s done once your book is published. Writers must promote own work. #kidlitchat
2:39 am helainebecker: And know who your audience is. RT @DanFriedman81: Treat every blog and tweet as something you are writing for an audience. #kidlitchat
2:39 am MundieMoms: RT @EllenHopkinsYA: VERY IMPORTANT. RT @DanFriedman81: Treat every blog and tweet as something you are writing for an audience. #kidlitchat
2:39 am KatieDavisBurps: Always be supportive. It’s all good. Geez I sound so boring. #kidlitchat
2:39 am elloecho: Ok – I may be in the minority, but as a writer in the public eye, you should avoid getting into “hot” or “touchy” politics. #kidlitchat
2:39 am SarahDarerLitt: @Sayantani16 @sbrezenoff I’m voting yes! #kidlitchat
2:39 am susankayequinn: RT @dawnmetcalf: Yes! RT @heatherzenzen LOVE THIS RT @briaquinlan I’m a huge believer in Good Gossip….spread the positive about fellow writers! #kidlitchat
3:01 am KatieDavisBurps: @EgmontGal Wow. Thanks! #kidlitchat
3:01 am Sayantani16: RT @KateMessner: @elloecho @laurelsnyder I think writers’ voices are essential with social justice issues. I’d feel wrong being quiet. #kidlitchat
3:01 am dlschubert: @mtgoldeneagle Love you times infinity. You so get me. #kidlitchat
3:01 am LaurelSnyder: @elloecho I’ve done NPR commentaries on abortion. I’m saying- it’s about how you say it, and when. I’m not saying anyone HAS to. #kidlitchat
3:01 am karenrivers: RT @LaurelSnyder: People, everything is political. Indie bookstores & food and breastfeeding and recycling & Santa. All controversy to someone. #kidlitchat
3:01 am elloecho: @realjohngreen @LaurelSnyder @elloecho Agreed, I have no arguments with this. #kidlitchat
3:01 am adamselzer: I always figure the people I’ll offend or annoy aren’t my target audience anyway. #kidlitchat
3:01 am kellylight: this was interesting!! – off to draw #Kidlitchat
3:01 am MaryMKonce: …Look, I get pretty outspokenly liberal and still get my books featured on far-right blogs now and then. Crazy, man. #kidlitchat :-)
3:01 am SarahDarerLitt: @KatieDavisBurps Nancy is one of the best advice givers in the business. #kidlitchat
3:01 am michcarlky: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: It’s a business, not just art. What are key professional mistakes you’ve seen folks make, and what tips to avoid ‘em? #kidlitchat
3:01 am KatApel: @elloecho The expectation that everyone agrees with U &if they don’t they’re wrong, can be offensive. #politics #touchysubjects #kidlitchat
3:01 am EgmontGal: @ek_anderson Hey, it’s Zadoff who’s predicting mummies. I am all about Bivalve love. @allenzadoff #kidlitchat
3:01 am KatieDavisBurps: And it does you NO good! RT @caylakl: Jealousy is ugly in a writer. In a professional in any field. Thats a mistake I see a lot. #kidlitchat
3:01 am LoreenLeedy: Nite, nite, all. Great thoughts! #kidlitchat
3:02 am thatlauraruby: @ek_anderson @karianneholt @EgmontGal I was already writing a mollusk trilogy./I call the cephalopod trilogy! #kidlitchat
3:02 am lisabrowndraws: You know you’ve hit the big time when one of your books is banned by someone or another. #kidlitchat
3:02 am AudryT: RT @LaurelSnyder: @elloecho Ive done NPR commentaries on abortion. Im saying- its about how you say it, and when. #kidlitchat
3:02 am SarahDarerLitt: RT @KateMessner: @elloecho @laurelsnyder I think writers voices essential with social justice issues. Id feel wrong being quiet. #kidlitchat
3:02 am LaurelSnyder: @realjohngreen @elloecho I agree. How can you write real characters without thinking about the world they live in? #kidlitchat
3:02 am laurielyoung: @LaurelSnyder Still too controversial? Suppose it depends on how strongly you want to defend a position. By the way?congrats! #kidlitchat
3:02 am vnnichols: @adamselzer: indeed. . #kidlitchat
3:02 am LaFabuliste: @lisabrowndraws This is one of my life goals. #kidlitchat
3:02 am RebeccAgent: Can’t believe I am coming to this chat over an hour late. Luckily@stevenmalk has picked up the slack #Kidlitchat
3:02 am KatieDavisBurps: Do this: make a positive visualization board. Paste the stuff you want to it. Look at it daily. Make that shizz happen! #kidlitchat
3:02 am helainebecker: Is your politics in line with what you are writing? e.g., I write science/environmental topics, will blog on such. Not abortion. #kidlitchat
3:02 am LaurelSnyder: @MaryMKonce Me too! #kidlitchat
3:02 am michcarlky: RT @KatieDavisBurps: Nancy Werlin gave me good advice:look @ yr career as a long haul, not a book by book journey. I love that. #kidlitchat
3:02 am WriterRoss: I hate when people tell musicians: “Just shut up and sing.” I like my artists to have more than just a voice. #kidlitchat
3:02 am Sayantani16: @realjohngreen @LaurelSnyder @elloecho YES. Writing/Speaking = politics. Who speaks? Whose voice heard? Whose silenced? #kidlitchat
3:02 am lisabrowndraws: A good one to haveRT @LaFabuliste: @lisabrowndraws This is one of my life goals. #kidlitchat
3:02 am TrinityFaegen: Mama said, talk about politics and you’ve alienated half the people in the room. Internet is a big room. #kidlitchat
3:02 am elloecho: This! RT @KatApel: The expectation that everyone agrees with U &if they dont theyre wrong, can be offensive. #kidlitchat
3:02 am SolomonInkwell: @RebeccAgent – You missed all the sexy mummy pitches…. #Kidlitchat
3:03 am LM_Preston: Hunger is calling #kidlitchat
3:03 am literaticat: @RebeccAgent I also just got here. :-) #kidlitchat
3:03 am EgmontGal: @dlschubert That’s the ideal when people get their edit letters “You so get me.” #kidlitchat
3:03 am jessica_shea: Advice? If a crit makes you feel defensive, shut up for at least 10 minutes & think about why. #kidlitchat
3:03 am Juniper40: RT @KatieDavisBurps: Do this: make a positive visualization board. Paste the stuff you want to it. Look at it daily. Make that shizz happen! #kidlitchat
3:03 am LaurelSnyder: @laurielyoung Thank you! And for the same book that got a bizarre “controvery” label. ha. #kidlitchat
3:03 am bonnieadamson: Whoa, guys–more than we bargained for . . . in the best way! I’ll say goodnight & tiptoe off now . . . carry on at will! #kidlitchat
3:03 am Sayantani16: @realjohngreen @LaurelSnyder @elloecho @KateMessner but I teach “narrative,health and social justice” so of course I think that #kidlitchat
3:03 am kellylight: RT @KatieDavisBurps: Do this: make a positive visualization board. Paste the stuff you want to it. Look at it daily. Make that shizz happen! #kidlitchat
3:03 am dlschubert: @EgmontGal Yes. When I get one from you, I’ll remember that. ;-) ) #kidlitchat
3:03 am mtgoldeneagle: @dlschubert Thanks, realized after I wrote that maybe I’m not supposed to butt in on #kidlitchat since I’m not a pub’d author (of books) ;-)
3:03 am lisabrowndraws: Agin, love a controversy. RT @LaurelSnyder: @laurielyoung And for the same book that got a bizarre “controvery” label. ha. #kidlitchat
3:03 am adamselzer: My fave story is a person who wrote an angry letter: “I just wanted to hear her sing…I won’t be seeing Joan Baez again” HUH? #kidlitchat
3:03 am AudryT: @adamselzer My characters just don’t have time for pop culture. They’re too busy nixing zombies. #thatsparanormalforyou #kidlitchat
3:03 am vnnichols: I don’t think that “political” HAS to mean left/right American politics #kidlitchat
3:03 am SarahDarerLitt: RT @KatieDavisBurps: Nancy Werlin gave me good advice:look @ yr career as a long haul, not a book by book journey. I love that. #kidlitchat
3:03 am ek_anderson: I think politics are kind of not a big deal compared to pitching agents in bathrooms and bashing other writers’ books online. #kidlitchat
3:04 am HP4Writers: RT @LaurelSnyder I feel that we need to speak out on politics/justice issues. We are influencers. Avoiding issues is marketing. #kidlitchat
3:04 am caylakl: I only got to be on here for about 2 seconds, but it was great chatting! Peace out. #kidlitchat
3:04 am f_rancesca: Thank you all for a lovely chat tonight. Will go forth and make new mistakes no-one has discovered yet. #kidlitchat
3:04 am dlschubert: @mtgoldeneagle Lot’s of folks on #kidlitchat aren’t pubbed. Feel free to jump in any time.
3:04 am elloecho: @Sayantani16 @realjohngreen @LaurelSnyder I’m a feminist and a legal advocate for women’s issues. Clearly it is in my writing. #kidlitchat
3:04 am Sayantani16: RT @vnnichols: I don’t think that “political” HAS to mean left/right American politics #kidlitchat
3:04 am Sayantani16: RT @SarahDarerLitt: RT @KatieDavisBurps: Nancy Werlin gave me good advice:look @ yr career as a long haul, not a book by book journey. I love that. #kidlitchat
3:04 am adamselzer: @AudryT Don’t they get songs stuck in their head while doing it? #kidlitchat
3:04 am DDHearn: @mtgoldeneagle THis is an open forum and everybody is welcome to participate. Jump on in. #kidlitchat
3:04 am LaFabuliste: “Politics” isn’t pop culture or 2011-based. I think it also means larger questions of morality and conflict, justice. #kidlitchat
3:05 am WriterRoss: Which begs the question: do agents/editors like to work with writers/artists they don’t click with on a personal basis? #kidlitchat
3:05 am AudryT: Seriously. RT@ek_anderson: I think politics are kind of not a big deal compared to pitching agents in bathrooms… #kidlitchat
3:05 am lisabrowndraws: RT @AudryT: Seriously. RT@ek_anderson: I think politics are kind of not a big deal compared to pitching agents in bathrooms… #kidlitchat
3:05 am dlschubert: @adamselzer I completely agree w/you. Who needs boring? Totally not interested. #kidlitchat
3:05 am SarahDarerLitt: Yes RT @LaFabuliste:”Politics” isnt pop culture or 2011-based. it also means larger questions of morality and conflict, justice. #kidlitchat
3:05 am KatieDavisBurps: I canNOT be pithy past 10pm. But I did have a FAB time here, and I thank you all. Especially you Mr. Greg Pincus you genius. #kidlitchat
3:05 am tristanbancks: Thank you to all the smart cookies on #kidlitchat today / tonight. I hung in the bleachers but soaked up tons of excellent advice.
3:05 am vnnichols: RT @AudryT: RT@ek_anderson: I think politics are kind of not a big deal compared to pitching agents in bathrooms… #kidlitchat LOL
3:05 am jessica_shea: Also, it’s ok to have beta readers who are just cheerleaders. Know when you’re ready for critique & when you’re not yet. #kidlitchat
3:05 am elloecho: @Sayantani16 @realjohngreen @LaurelSnyder But there’s a time and place for it – NPR commentary, yes. But maybe not everywhere. #kidlitchat
3:05 am daisyqin: @vnnichols Agreed – e.g. a lot of dystopian work has political undertones (usually more in terms of regime type, etc.) #kidlitchat
3:05 am AshGraham: RT @elanaroth: I got pitched by a few people at the conf. this weekend and when I asked “Have you read X, Y, Z?” They hadn’t. Read everything. #kidlitchat
3:05 am AudryT: @adamselzer “Hi-ho, hi-ho, it’s off to slash and burn I go…” #zombiehuntersong #kidlitchat
3:05 am dawnmetcalf: Go to conf for 1:1 feedback. Sit. Listen. Write down everything. DON’T DEFEND ANYTHING. Say “Thank you.” Sleep on it. Improve! #kidlitchat
3:05 am DDHearn: @WriterRoss One could ask that same question about agents/editors wanting to work with artists who differ politically. #kidlitchat
3:06 am coffeelvnmom: #kidlitchat is going on tweeps!
3:06 am KatApel: RT @bonnieadamson: Whoa, guys–more than we bargained for . . . in the best way! I’ll say goodnight & tiptoe off now . . . carry on at will! #kidlitchat
3:06 am Sayantani16: @AudryT @ek_anderson I’ve already made my case for stalking/offering manis pedis/hair braiding. All sadly, no-nos. :) #kidlitchat
3:06 am DanKrokos: It’s not about “staying true to yourself”. You. Write. Books. You’re not a pundit. #kidlitchat
3:06 am helainebecker: @ek_anderson Bet it will take you a looooong time to write #mollusksaresnails #kidlitchat
3:06 am SolomonInkwell: Alright gotsta retire. In the end just have fun. Have FUN writing. The last thing you should take seriously is yourself! :-) #kidlitchat
3:06 am literaticat: Personally, for me? No. > RT @writerross do agents like to work with writers/artists they don’t click with on a personal basis? #kidlitchat
3:06 am SarahDarerLitt: @vnnichols @AudryT @ek_anderson OMG, I need new glasses – I read that as “pinching” agents in bathrooms. Watch out @elanaroth! #kidlitchat
3:06 am ctrichmond: Great advice! @jessica_shea If a crit makes you feel defensive, shut up for at least 10 minutes & think about why. #kidlitchat
3:06 am KatGirl_Studio: got a phone call and had to miss most of the chat, oh well I guess #kidlitchat
3:06 am adamselzer: @AudryT See, I’d be singing Metallica… “Die! By my hand! I creep across the land….” #kidlitchat
3:06 am WriterRoss: @DDHearn That, too. <g> #kidlitchat
3:06 am vnnichols: @SarahDarerLitt LOL. Oh, no. #kidlitchat
3:06 am ek_anderson: @helainebecker But they are magical mollusks! #kidlitchat
3:07 am LaurelSnyder: @elloecho @Sayantani16 @realjohngreen I likely wont discuss abortion in elementary school. But again, that’s RESPECT/mindfulness #kidlitchat
3:07 am WendyMartinArt: @KatGirl_Studio I missed it too. Looks like a hot one tonight #kidlitchat
3:07 am laurielyoung: This was lively and way too fast to keep up with! TG for the transcript. ‘Night all! #kidlitchat
3:07 am vnnichols: @ek_anderson The Snails of Temptation? #kidlitchat
3:07 am lisabrowndraws: Chicken RT @LaurelSnyder: @elloecho @Sayantani16 @realjohngreen I likely wont discuss abortion in elementary school. #kidlitchat
3:07 am WriterRoss: @SarahDarerLitt I know writers who have tried to pinch agents in the ladies’ room. ;} #kidlitchat
3:07 am varianjohnson: I think bks are a great way to discuss politics & morals as long as we’re not ramming a “life lesson” down our reader’s throats. #kidlitchat
3:07 am paulgreci: RT @JoKnowles RT @stevenmalk: Slow down. An extra day, month, week, or even year is worth it if it means doing it right. #kidlitchat
3:07 am LaFabuliste: Policy in my first college writing class: critiquee is NOT ALLOWED TO TALK while critiquers do their thing. Not a peep. #kidlitchat
3:14 am Sayantani16: @LaurelSnyder Indeed. Very wise! :) #kidlitchat
3:14 am lisabrowndraws: @Jane_George I love pickled punks! Is that wrong? #kidlitchat
3:14 am BlytheWoolston: RT @varianjohnson: A friend got a bad review b/c the reviewer felt that the book implied too strongly that slavery was wrong. I mean, really? 2/2 #kidlitchat
3:14 am adamselzer: My best sales week for my first book was 2 years after it came out. The week it was in the news for being challenged. #kidlitchat
3:14 am vnnichols: @varianjohnson Have you followed any of the Texas textbook stuff at all? #kidlitchat
3:15 am daisyqin: @HP4Writers @lisabrowndraws There seems to be a huge boom in the amount of parodied classics out there these days… #kidlitchat
3:15 am HP4Writers: Remember how loud fandom cheered when JK Rowling announced Dumbledore was gay? Kids crave reality. #kidlitchat
3:15 am qwertcity: @lisabrowndraws @ElanaRoth @LaurelSnyder Thanks, you gals are giving me hope. #kidlitchat
3:15 am navahw: @EverettMaroon I love political SFF, as long as it feels fascinating and worldbuildy and not preachy. #Kidlitchat
3:15 am adamselzer: @varianjohnson shouldn’t* #kidlitchat
3:15 am DawnRaeMiller: Anyone searching me would see I’m very liberal. I don’t hide it. Characters I write have similar, although not overt, values #Kidlitchat
3:15 am helainebecker: @Sayantani16 I bet that’s a riot. There’s something weird and universal about salon culture. #kidlitchat
3:15 am varianjohnson: I told her not to worry about it–all reviewers were not created equal. #kidlitchat
3:15 am AudryT: @HP4Writers @lisabrowndraws I would take banning as a compliment. Then I’d fly to where they were & hawk my bk across the street #kidlitchat
3:15 am SarahDarerLitt: @BlytheWoolston @varianjohnson WTF? How can you possibly imply TOO STRONGLY that slavery is wrong?!!! #kidlitchat
3:15 am ek_anderson: RT @adamselzer: I call afterparty! http://www.verlakay.com/chat.html Join us! Grab a cocktail! Kidlit writers serve minors! #kidlitchat
3:16 am lisabrowndraws: Oh, you should def have hope! RT @qwertcity: @lisabrowndraws @ElanaRoth @LaurelSnyder Thanks, you gals are giving me hope. #kidlitchat
3:16 am WendyMartinArt: RT @HP4Writers: Remember how loud fandom cheered when JK Rowling announced Dumbledore was gay? Kids crave reality. #kidlitchat
3:16 am lisabrowndraws: Clearly. RT @varianjohnson: I told her not to worry about it–all reviewers were not created equal. #kidlitchat
3:16 am HP4Writers: @DaisyQin Yes, parodied in so many forms. Fanfiction, YouTube videos, music. If they love it, they find a way to get involved. #kidlitchat
3:16 am Sayantani16: @HP4Writers *mouth open* Dumbledore is gay? I mean, rock on, awesome wizard boss guy, but where was I when JK announced this? #kidlitchat
3:16 am SarahDarerLitt: RT @HP4Writers: Remember how loud fandom cheered when JK Rowling announced Dumbledore was gay? Kids crave reality. #kidlitchat
3:16 am varianjohnson: @vnnichols Yeah, I’ve been keeping my eye on it. I taught an education course last year; we discussed it quite a bit. #kidlitchat
3:16 am LaFabuliste: Am currently working on project set in an (imaginary) foreign Embassy. But I like “political”– intrigue! betrayal! diplomacy! #kidlitchat
3:17 am vnnichols: @SarahDarerLitt You’d be surprised. This is a whole *issue* now, particularly when it comes to slave-holding founding fathers. #kidlitchat
3:17 am varianjohnson: @vnnichols My students hated it, but felt helpless to do anything about it. #kidlitchat
3:17 am EverettMaroon: @navahw Yeah, I really try to stay away from strident messages. #kidlitchat My wip takes on Prohibition and snake oil salesmen.
3:17 am HP4Writers: @Sayantani16 JKR announced it shortly after release of Deathly Hallows during a public reading, I think the one w/ Stephen King. #kidlitchat
3:17 am dawnmetcalf: Hey, push your own envelope. Get a little uncomfortable. Go outside your comfort zone. Make people think (most of all yourself)! #kidlitchat
3:18 am AudryT: @Sayantani16 She did it quietly with no fanfare. Lots of media picked it up. Some asshats tossed her books b/c of it. #kidlitchat
3:18 am SarahDarerLitt: @vnnichols I despair. I really do. #kidlitchat
3:18 am EverettMaroon: RT @dawnmetcalf: Hey, push your own envelope. Get a little uncomfortable. Go outside your comfort zone. Make people think (most of all yourself)! #kidlitchat
3:18 am mayabidaya: I know I’m tuning in late but it looks like a politics in #kidlitchat and my book is political in a peripheral kinda way
3:18 am vnnichols: I know, right? I mean, truth trumping patriotism is a wee creepy. #kidlitchat
3:18 am navahw: I would LOVE to find a great YA political science fiction or fantasy that’s accessible and awesome. #Kidlitchat
3:18 am helainebecker: @SarahDarerLitt I would love my own slave. #kidlitchat Is that wrong???? <winking>
3:18 am gregpincus: Thanks all for another fun, informative #kidlitchat. I’ll get the transcript up sooooooooon at http://bit.ly/10ndtk
3:18 am qwertcity: How hard is it to market a new author who writes both YA and adult fiction? Daniel Handler does it, but this seems rare. #kidlitchat
3:19 am julianhector: Back to finishing my cover, night #Kidlitchat !
3:19 am dlschubert: Kids are forming views on important issues. It’s important they see people they look up to speaking openly & honestly. #kidlitchat

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