Kidlitchat Transcript – June 8
| 1:00 am | bonnieadamson: | TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat |
| 1:00 am | EgmontUSA: | I’m here. I’m here. Hi all. #kidlitchat |
| 1:00 am | kellyhashway: | Hi, everyone! #kidlitchat |
| 1:00 am | lisagailgreen: | Ok all seems quiet on the Western front…. lets give #kidlitchat a try! |
| 1:00 am | jenfos: | First time to try this chat thing #kidlitchat |
| 1:00 am | adamselzer: | I set most of my books in the same town. It’s definitely a character. #kidlitchat |
| 1:00 am | hpinski: | Hi everyone! #kidlitchat |
| 1:00 am | EgmontUSA: | Hi @hrootchat. |
| 1:01 am | peg366: | @EgmontUSA Hi back. Hello Kelly. #kidlitchat |
| 1:01 am | gregpincus: | Let’s get this #kidlitchat party started, shall we? |
| 1:01 am | gregpincus: | TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat |
| 1:01 am | adamselzer: | I like showing the ways different characters perceive the same town. #kidlitchat |
| 1:01 am | hpinski: | @jenfos welcome! #kidlitchat |
| 1:01 am | kidlitchat: | TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat |
| 1:01 am | lisabrowndraws: | Setting: well absolutely. Thinking in particular about my historical fiction. #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | peg366: | The setting is different for each of my pbs. #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | jenfos: | @hpinski Thanks. We’ll see if hungry kids will cooperate? #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | lisagailgreen: | @adamselzer Yes! I think the key is in perception. A reflection of how the character feels/thinks #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | mrswritebrain: | No GLEE for me tonight! Great topic–one I need to work on! #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | hrootchat: | @EgmontUSA Howdy yourself! #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | cjomololu: | I can only set a book in a place I’m very familiar with. People in my town recognize places in my book all the time. #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | kellyhashway: | I write mostly fantasy so setting is a major character. #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | shimes06: | haha, due to the glee finale? well honestly that’s why i was away so long…kidlit was same night as LOST |
| 1:02 am | jenfos: | It seems like sometimes the setting may try to be bland and “anytown” USA ish. Is that really a character? #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | deegarretson: | @gregpincus I haven’t watched Glee. I don’t want to get sucked into another show I can’t miss. #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | JennRHubbard: | I used a river as a character, sort of. #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | delzey: | greetings all. so the question is how is a raven like a writing desk? #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | enrichingkids: | No Glee for me either, How is everyone? #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | MirandaKennealy: | Setting – sure, it’s like a character. Every place has its own nuances and quirks and secrets, just like people. #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | JennRHubbard: | Another interesting question about setting: could your story have happened anywhere else? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | EgmontUSA: | Why is tweetchat dead! Trying tweetgrid. #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | shimes06: | ok, so tweetchat is not showing current posts…*sigh* #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | PattyJMurphy: | RT @gregpincus: Will #kidlitchat be quiet due to season finale of #glee and Lakers/Celtics game? <<<Multi-taskers’ll be here:) #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | adamselzer: | @delzey because there is a b in both. #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | lisabrowndraws: | In my pbs, a sense of setting is done with color palette. #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | paulgreci: | RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | srjohannes: | hi guys! what is topic tonight? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | delzey: | the vast majority of my stories are all set in the same fictitious town, so the town does have it’s own story like a character #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | hpinski: | parts of my settings become like characters, places of significance. #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | hrootchat: | GREAT question! RT @JennRHubbard: Another interesting question about setting: could your story have happened anywhere else? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | gregpincus: | I think the setting interacts and changes based on how people interact with it… hence a character for me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | cjomololu: | In my hoarding book, the house was definitely a character. In my WIP it’s San Francisco and Berkeley. #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | gregpincus: | RT @JennRHubbard: Another interesting question about setting: could your story have happened anywhere else? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | pippinmathur: | Great topic! I’m struggling with this in a pb wip. #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | jenfos: | But just to be a contrarian – sometimes don’t you want it to be generic? I.e. encyclopedia brown? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | bonnieadamson: | Has anyone been reading Nathan Bransford’s posts on setting as character? #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | Becky_Levine: | Oh! #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | RebeccAgent: | Hi all #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | pippinmathur: | @lisabrowndraws great way to think about it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | peg366: | @bonnieadamson I have been reading his posts. #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | hpinski: | I agree. RT @jenfos: But just to be a contrarian – sometimes dont you want it to be generic? I.e. encyclopedia brown? #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | Becky_Levine: | Is the topic setting? One of my favorites! Let me feed the kid & I’ll try and drop back in! #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | john_zeleznik: | Hullo, do we have atopic yet? #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | hrootchat: | @jenfos Definitely, some books are more about micro-setting (a home, a school, a neighborhood) rather than geographical/regional #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | jenfos: | I agree in many cases it is vitally important – fantasy, historical fiction, where it is critical to the theme of the story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | TheAsianAngel: | The setting should benefit the story. From the surrounding, your character should be able to pull what he/she needs. #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | gregpincus: | @john_zeleznik You can check @kidlitchat for the topic (tweeted at the top of the hour) #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | deegarretson: | in my stories a specific location is essential to the plot, but I can see where in many it wouldn’t matter so much #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | EgmontUSA: | @shimes06 I logged out and logged back in, and it worked. Try it. Maybe it’ll work for you, #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | JenniferTrafton: | Part of Dickens’ genius was connecting character and setting, making a person mirror the characteristics of his/her place. #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | KatGirl_Studio: | in my wordless PB/graphic novel the setting is definitely a character #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | jenfos: | @hrootchat Right -and sometimes we want readers (kids) to identify as if it is their own – so setting may not be unique chrcter #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | hpinski: | RT @TheAsianAngel: The setting should benefit the story…character should be able to pull what he/she needs. #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | shimes06: | “Everything happens somewhere” — Pieter Haag #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | RebeccAgent: | a client of mine has a book coming out in the fall where setting is essential THE JUMBEE, set in caribbean #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | delzey: | @jenfos on the other hand, with something like a beginning reader setting can be nearly nonexistent. #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | jenfos: | RT @shimes06: “Everything happens somewhere”– Pieter Haag #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | gregpincus: | @TheAsianAngel So the setting should benefit the story like a specific haracter that serves a purpose? #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | PaulWHankins: | @kidlitchat Thank you for the follow. Lurking tonight. I always like to see what everyone says. Going back to summer reading. #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | JennRHubbard: | Sometimes I feel I know a real-life setting, & then I realize I only know it thru a book. That’s a well-done setting! #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | jenfos: | @delzey exactly. So sometimes setting is a character and sometimes not. #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | KatGirl_Studio: | but with all my stories lots of work goes into the settings, sometimes i even do environment paintings and make schematics #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | lisabrowndraws: | But, in historical fic as well as contemporary, you run the risk of being TOO specific, and then readers can’t relate. #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | bonnieadamson: | Yes! RT @JenniferTrafton: Part of Dickens’ genius was connecting character and setting, making a person mirror his/her place. #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | deegarretson: | Having trouble with tweetchat, may have to figure out how to use tweetgrid #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | mrswritebrain: | My book couldn’t have been set anywhere else, (tiny, rural town). It’s vital to who my characters are/become. #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | ReadingVacation: | @hrootchat Right -and sometimes we want readers (kids) to identify as if it is their own – so setting may not be unique chrcter #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | srjohannes: | i think setting is so important 2 the tone of the bk. However, I dont think u HAVE 2b region/city specific. Just make it real. #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | gregpincus: | @RebeccAgent I’m also thinking of something like @PamBachorz and Candor where the setting is KEY. No book without it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | jenfos: | RT @JennRHubbard: Sometimes I feel I know a real-life setting, & then realize I only know thru a book.Thats a well-done setting! #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | PaulWHankins: | By the by, setting was crucial to the man on my right. Would we have bought this story if he hid in another town? Probably not. #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | RebeccAgent: | in client Lisa Railsback’s upcoming BETTI ON HIGH WIRE about kid adopted from another country, country intentionally unnamed #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | KateMessner: | My novels all have specific, detail-rich settings but my chapter book series is more “any-school USA.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | delzey: | but as a kid i hated description and setting in books. i wanted to hear what people were saying and thinking #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | lisabrowndraws: | Yes! Think about The Arrival by Shaun Tan RT @KatGirl_Studio: in wordless PB/graphic novel the setting is definitely a character #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | ReadingVacation: | @srjohannes I agree. #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | TheAsianAngel: | @gregpincus Exactly. You should take advantage of where and when your character is to move the story forward. Example to follow #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | RebeccAgent: | in part b/c war torn country and symbolizes pain of coming from any war torn country #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | chrstinef: | @srjohannes @ReadingVacation agreed #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @lisabrowndraws yes that book is fantastic #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | jenfos: | @delzey I’m with you again. Sometimes it’s best to move fast and skip too much of the landscape painting #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | JennRHubbard: | Do you know your character first, then setting? Setting first? Or both together? #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | gothicmangaka: | @kidlitchat Setting of our book (series) is a central character absolutely. (Series named for the Island in fact) #kidlitchat… |
| 1:11 am | RebeccAgent: | also because the focus is the fish out of water story of coming to US and finding the true definition of home #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | delzey: | and an unfamiliar setting can serve as a barrier to a reader looking to connect, esp w/ reluctant readers (i.e. boys) #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | KateMessner: | Setting is important for character development, too – Our landscapes help to define us as human beings. #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | 2KoP: | RT @srjohannes: setting is important 2 tone of bk. dont think u HAVE 2b region/city specific. Just make it real. #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | EgmontUSA: | RT @gregpincus: @RebeccAgent I’m also thinking of something like @PamBachorz and Candor where the setting is KEY. No book without it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | tehawesomersace: | Still that way! RT @delzey: as a kid i hated description and setting in books. wanted to hear what people were saying/thinking #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | sharifwrites: | @delzey I lost interest if it was overdone. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | malindalo: | I feel like setting is v important to my writing. Place really informs the story. Especially in fantasy, interestingly! #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | hpinski: | RT @KateMessner: Setting is important for character development, too – Our landscapes help to define us as human beings. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | lisabrowndraws: | @delzey sometimes description is all I want, ie Little House’s log cabin building chapter, but then, I’m a history geek #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | MirandaKennealy: | This is going to sound pathetic, but no matter what book I read, I picture the MC’s house as the first house I ever lived in. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | Brent_Watson41: | Has one eye on the #Celtics and one eye on #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | deegarretson: | I love to read books where the setting is so unique and/or detailed, I want to go to that place, esp. exotic or unknown to me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | kellyhashway: | @JennRHubbard My setting and MC developed together. I think they have to in order to really support each other. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | PeterMcL: | As a kid, I used to hate excess desc of setting. I didn’t care about the paint. Tell me what happened! Maybe a boy thing. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | JenniferTrafton: | A few well-chosen details, seamlessly connected to the character’s personality/actions, make a setting impt but not boring. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | lisabrowndraws: | @JennRHubbard For last novel, def. setting driven. Well, time period. Then locale. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | KateMessner: | My last three book ideas have grown out of a setting that intrigued me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | angie_frazier: | Setting is always what I begin with. Characters build from there, and like @KateMessner said, landscapes define us. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | shimes06: | in terms of books like alice in wonderland, wizard of oz, moby dick etc…the setting IS a character #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | jenfos: | On other hand – sometimes the where is critical – Thinking of Summer of my German soldier – best because the whos in the wheres #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | delzey: | @MirandaKennealy exactly, i need to be able to see what’s being described, so i overlay settings with my memories #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | delzey: | @PeterMcL agreed, x2 #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | bonnieadamson: | Just finished CHARLES AND EMMA–setting (time and place) so well described; crucial in understanding Darwin. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | gregpincus: | @KateMessner I agree settings help with character. but that is true without specificity sometimes: a mountain vs. named mt. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | PattyJMurphy: | @gregpincus: Have a post-it w/SEE, HEAR, TASTE, TOUCH, SMELL by my computer. Reminds me to uses senses as vehicles to setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | adamselzer: | It’s really all about sneaking it in. A large percentage of kids WILL skip over long passages of description. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | PaulWHankins: | @KateMessner Sugar and Ice made me want to pack up and move to Claire’s town. Lovely setting and descriptions. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | ReadingVacation: | In some stories, I like to picture myself in the setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | angie_frazier: | RT @shimes06: in terms of books like alice in wonderland, wizard of oz, moby dick etc…the setting IS a character #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | JennRHubbard: | @petermcl But there are other ways to elicit setting than with straight narrative description. Thank goodness. #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | lisagailgreen: | I think the key is to not overdo it, just pull the elements of the place that work with furthering your story and characters #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | jenfos: | @lisabrowndraws – it all goes to the type of book and the target reader #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | susanjsteward: | @delzey Shoot, I forgot to write #kidlitchat! |
| 1:14 am | kellyhashway: | @PeterMcL Not a boy thing. I was the same way. But I think the description should be only what’s important to the story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | delzey: | @adamselzer and some of adults, too #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | cjomololu: | @adamselzer I agree. Write it as the kid would see it-no long descriptions. #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | hpinski: | I enjoy reading both, books where some facet of the setting is a character in and of itself, and setting as a generic backdrop. #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | lisabrowndraws: | @delzey The danger is when you are too specific, so reader can’t overlay their own memories over your setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @ReadingVacation i do that with all the books i read… and write #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | JenniferTrafton: | @PattyJMurphy Flannery O’Connor said it takes three senses to make a place real. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | 2KoP: | RT @JenniferTrafton: A few well-chosen details, seamlessly connected to character’s personality/actions.#kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | bonnieadamson: | @MirandaKennealy I think that’s fascinating. Personal landscape seeps into so many things. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | peg366: | @adamselzer That was me as a kid. I skimmed over a lot of description. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | kellyhashway: | Yes! RT @JennRHubbard: @petermcl But there are other ways to elicit setting than with straight narrative description. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | HC_Palmquist: | I think a lot of times setting is key to keep the suspension of disbelief plausible for the rest of the world or story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | lisabrowndraws: | RT @JennRHubbard: @petermcl But there are other ways to elicit setting than with straight narrative description. Thank goodness. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | adamselzer: | @delzey I’d about go so far as to say “most.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | gregpincus: | @PattyJMurphy Yes, engaging the senses is a key tool in writing. It’s why I “spill” coffee on manuscripts before mailing ‘em #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | MyraMcEntire: | NICE. RT PattyJMurphy Have post-it w/SEE, HEAR, TASTE, TOUCH, SMELL by computer. Reminds to use senses as vehicles to setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | Brent_Watson41: | @RebeccAgent sounds like a great book. I have many who could relate. About a third of my students were born in Somalia or Sudan. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | j_ro333: | I completely changed the setting and kept nearly the entire story for Kringle Khronicles. Some minor things changed. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | JennRHubbard: | RT @lisabrowndraws: @delzey The danger is when you are too specific, so reader can’t overlay their own memories over your setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | hpinski: | Well put. RT @lisabrowndraws: @delzey The danger is when you are too specific, reader cant overlay their own memories… #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | bonnieadamson: | @deegarretson I think that’s why I love Rosamund Pilcher novels. I want to be there, down to roses on table. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | PeterMcL: | I don’t think setting should be forced in unless it’s necessary for some other purpose! #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | lisabrowndraws: | So how to elicit setting w/out description? Ideas? #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | adamselzer: | Not to say it isn’t important in most books, but you can’t count on all readers to be GOOD readers. Gotta be sneaky! #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | sharifwrites: | When the setting matches the tone of the story, it does feel like there’s another character in the fringes. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | 2KoP: | Yes! RT @lisabrowndraws: @delzey When you are too specific, reader can’t overlay their memories over your setting.#kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | KateMessner: | @PaulWHankins Thanks! Claire’s home town in SUGAR AND ICE is based loosely on small maple-producing town of Chazy, NY. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | j_ro333: | But I also agree w/ @gregpincus – setting is another character and should be used that way when applicable. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | cherylherbsman: | I think setting is crucial to making it feel like the story could be real. Doesn’t need to be through long descriptions. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | angie_frazier: | Setting is difficult to write. I see it so well in my mind & the challenge is to convey it exactly how I see it w/o overwriting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | jenfos: | RT @adamselzer: Not to say isnt important in most books, but you cant count on all readers to be GOOD readers. Gotta be sneaky! #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | susanjsteward: | An mentor had me think of setting as dressing a stage for my characters. I’m a theater person so that worked. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | JennRHubbard: | @lisabrowndraws Make it part of the action–character interacts with the setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | HC_Palmquist: | I have found the best way to care for setting is to utilize sensory detail and show the surroundings as experienced by the MC. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @lisabrowndraws you can have the environment interacting with the character like the weather, smells or sounds. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | mrswritebrain: | Who wouldn’t want to live on Prince Edward Island? LMM was the master of setting, IMO. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | growupwithbooks: | Luv this! <RT @JenniferTrafton Flannery O’Connor said it takes three senses to make a place real. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | lisabrowndraws: | In PB or graphic novel it’s color choice, line quality…RT @lisabrowndraws: So how to elicit setting w/out description? Ideas? #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | kellyhashway: | @PeterMcL Nothing should be “forced” into the story because it will feel like just that–forced in. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | 2KoP: | RT @JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Make it part of the action–character interacts with the setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | JennRHubbard: | @lisabrowndraws Also dialogue, speech patterns. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | cherylherbsman: | RT @JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Make it part of the action–character interacts with the setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | MichelleDEvans: | hi… just jumping in… what’s the topic? #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | TheAsianAngel: | Setting: Prison. Advantages: Rioting prisoners to create noise distraction, shady guards who can be bribed, etc #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | ReadingVacation: | @adamselzer My little brother will skim over a description if it’s too long. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | peg366: | Good idea. RT @JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Make it part of the action–character interacts with the setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | KateMessner: | Setting descriptions need to be through your character’s eyes rather than your own. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | j_ro333: | You do have to give setting details – but keep them brief. Too specific bogs down readers and they can’t make it their own. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | jenfos: | I still like the post it with the senses. Particularly SMELL IT. That could go over big with the right audience #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | pippinmathur: | RT @lisabrowndraws: In PB or graphic novel it’s color choice, line quality…RT @lisabrowndraws: So how to elicit setting w/out description? Ideas? #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | hpinski: | Me too! RT @ReadingVacation: @adamselzer My little brother will skim over a description if its too long. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | lisagailgreen: | Setting can be a great tool for pushing story forward and showing character traits if you use it right #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | lisa_schroeder: | Forget long descriptions – show us through the characters, details of their life and those around them. Little goes long way. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | gregpincus: | RT @KateMessner: Setting descriptions need to be through your character’s eyes rather than your own. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | lisabrowndraws: | Yes, def. dialogue. If it doesn’t get too expository. RT @JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Also dialogue, speech patterns. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | mrswritebrain: | @susanjsteward My problem with being a theater person is getting the setting from the stage (brain) to the page! #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | MirandaKennealy: | @ReadingVacation I think we all will skip over a description if it’s too long. |
| 1:18 am | EgmontUSA: | @mrswritebrain I can’t help but agree with you. When I went to PEI, it was like I was in one of the Anne books. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | jenfos: | Gotta jump off for a bit – how long does this shindig last? #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | growupwithbooks: | @KateMessner Good point! So you must truly know your characters in order to see through their eyes! #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | JennRHubbard: | RT @KateMessner: Setting descriptions need to be through your character’s eyes rather than your own. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | cherylherbsman: | 5 senses are important, but great if you can weave them into the action #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | RebeccAgent: | Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | hrootchat: | Setting is a great place to remember readers WANT to do some of the work. Leave room for imagination. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | deegarretson: | @KateMessner exactly-to maintain the voice of your characters, you need to describe how they would see a setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | jenfos: | RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, its slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | 2KoP: | Specific, brief, sensory-oriented setting details draw the reader in quickly to MC’s world. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | JennRHubbard: | RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | KateMessner: | Yes! RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | PeterMcL: | @lisabrowndraws Do it in passing, ideally in action. Eg, ‘X bashed the panelled wall’, instead of ‘The wall was panelled’ #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | cherylherbsman: | @RebeccAgent yes, and also community, how people interact with one another can also be part of setting #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | delzey: | @KateMessner and sometimes characters don’t notice settings (not to be a pain…) #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | hpinski: | RT @hrootchat: Setting is a great place to remember readers WANT to do some of the work. Leave room for imagination. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | JenniferTrafton: | @EgmontUSA @mrswritebrain Agreed! The setting of PEI is half the appeal (the other half being Gilbert). #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | Gwenda: | RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | pippinmathur: | RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | angie_frazier: | Setting is more than what a character sees. It’s what they hear, taste, smell, etc. That’s what I love about creating setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | susanjsteward: | @mrswritebrain I think she meant I wrote good dialogue, but it was like 2 people on an empty stage. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | ReadingVacation: | @j_ro333 EXACTLY! I like to imagine some of it on my own. The reason I like books better than movies. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | lisagailgreen: | RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | lisa_schroeder: | These authors all do a great job with setting – @KateMessner, @cherylherbsman, @JennRHubbard!! #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | jenfos: | RT @hrootchat: Setting is a great place to remember readers WANT to do some of the work. Leave room for imagination. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | mrswritebrain: | Lucky!! RT @EgmontUSA: I can’t help but agree with you. When I went to PEI, it was like I was in one of the Anne books. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | pippinmathur: | RT @PeterMcL: @lisabrowndraws Do it in passing, ideally in action. Eg, ‘X bashed the panelled wall’, instead of ‘The wall was panelled’ #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | hrootchat: | See lots of mss that are trying so hard to spell it all out & be sure I see it right. Amazing how much more vivid it is w/o. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | Becky_Levine: | I’m back. LOVED doing setting in my kids’ mystery set in Santa Cruz. Struggling with learning how to do it with historical YA. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | PattyJMurphy: | Thanx!@MyraMcEntire RT @PattyJMurphy: Have post-it w/SEE,HEAR,TASTE, TOUCH,SMELLby comp.Reminds to use senses as vehicles to… #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | KateMessner: | “Getting the rich details of the setting right” is my favorite excuse to travel. |
| 1:21 am | bonnieadamson: | @KateMessner And characters are a product of their setting–that’s why “stranger in town” stories work so well. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | EgmontUSA: | @JenniferTrafton But of course. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | delzey: | true RT @RebeccAgent: Setting not just description of place, its slang , food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | Becky_Levine: | @ReadingVacation I’m with your little brother! #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | cherylherbsman: | @lisa_schroeder thanks, Lisa |
| 1:21 am | susanjsteward: | @mrswritebrain … and then choosing some of the details/images of that set to work in was enough to improve the setting, 2 her. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | KateMessner: | @lisa_schroeder Aw, thanks! #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | TheAsianAngel: | Setting will also reveal more about character. How does your character fit into the setting? The more akward the better #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | MyraMcEntire: | I write the setting as I see it – with too much detail – and then cut 3/4′s of it. *snip snip* #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | PattyJMurphy: | RT @hrootchat: Setting is a great place to remember readers WANT to do some of the work. Leave room for imagination. <<So true! #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | yachicka: | waiting to watch glee with the hubster and thought i’d check in – what’s the topic? #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | kellyhashway: | No two readers will see the setting the same way, no matter how well you describe it. Better to leave some to the imagination. #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | ImFreckles: | RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | lisagailgreen: | Setting can also be as fun and integral as the characters – think Hogwarts for example #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | peg366: | Sounds good to meRT @MyraMcEntire: I write the setting as I see it – with too much detail – and then cut 3/4s of it. *snip snip* #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | HC_Palmquist: | @MyraMcEntire That’s so interesting because I tend to be too sparse and have to go back and add in. Can I borrow some of yours? #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | MirandaKennealy: | @MyraMcEntire That’s interesting – I always have to go in and add setting descriptions later. #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | ImFreckles: | @RebeccAgent thanks for the words about setting. that is what I am struggling with in my writting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | delzey: | RT @kellyhashway: No 2 readers see setting the same way, no matter how well described. Better to leave some to the imagination. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | LeahPetersen: | Me too, so girl thing. RT @petermcl: As a kid, I used to hate desc of setting. I didn’t care about the paint. Maybe a boy thing. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | lisagailgreen: | @kellyhashway just like no 2 characters will experience your setting in the same way #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | Becky_Levine: | Setting is the world. RT @RebeccAgent: Setting not just description of place, it’s slang, food, values, demographics. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | hpinski: | Me too!RT @HC_Palmquist: @MyraMcEntire Thats so interesting because I tend to be too sparse and have to go back and add in. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | bonnieadamson: | @yachicka TOPIC: Setting as character. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | susanjsteward: | @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? For me, Camazotz from A Wrinkle In Time. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | RebeccAgent: | also I have to say, I love comtemp novels for MG or YA not set on East Coast or in CA, being Midwesterner myself #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | PattyJMurphy: | @gregpincus: I think setting has to do w/character’s state of mind, mood, personality, values, and what they ate for breakfast:) #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | PeterMcL: | I write a full desc of setting in a profile, then only use what a char would NOTICE, or what plot needs. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | kellyhashway: | @lisagailgreen exactly and that can only make the story better. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | Becky_Levine: | @MirandaKennealy If I’m writing about a very specific place, I’ll write the scene, go TO the place & then fill in details. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | KateMessner: | Fun writing prompt: Make separate lists of characters, plot ideas, settings, genres. Then mix & match! #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | HC_Palmquist: | @MirandaKennealy JINX!!! You owe me a Coke. LOL I just said pretty much the same thing to @MyraMcEntire #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | 2KoP: | Is level of setting description dependent upon age-range of readers? #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | WriterRoss: | @bonnieadamson Thanks, Bonnie. Could not get computer to connect to internet for 15 minutes. #@!& #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | hpinski: | The Shire. RT @susanjsteward: @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | MyraMcEntire: | @HC_Palmquist I have to add in *FEELINGS*. So we can trade? #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | cjomololu: | Can you write realistic settings if you don’t know them? I tried to write a book where it snowed and I couldn’t do it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | delzey: | @RebeccAgent but if i write what i know, i can only write @ CA or new england! |
| 1:24 am | PromptWriter: | RT @KateMessner: Fun writing prompt: Make separate lists of characters, plot ideas, settings, genres. Then mix & match! #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | cherylherbsman: | setting can also help set the tone of the story — the pace of the place, the presence of nature or not, etc #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | deegarretson: | Character voice-great line in The Dragon Heir-”Fog clung to Booker Mountain like an old ragged coat.” poor child seeing setting #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | 2KoP: | RT @PeterMcL: I write a full desc of setting in a profile, then use what char would NOTICE or what plot needs. #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | cherylherbsman: | @cjomololu have you never seen it snow? #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @RebeccAgent funny, i have only read two books set in CA and one of them was an adult book #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | HC_Palmquist: | @MyraMcEntire YES! I’m good with feelings. lol #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | KateMessner: | @cjomololu I’ve never been IN a tornado but I’m writing about them now. Lots of research, interviews & videos. #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | MirandaKennealy: | @Becky_Levine Do you have a private jet or something? If so, I’d like to borrow it to go write setting descriptions. #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | EgmontUSA: | If I’m reading your ms and constantly getting jarred out of your world because of exposition on setting, something’s wrong. . . #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @RebeccAgent all of them seem to be set in east coast or midwest #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | MyraMcEntire: | @MirandaKennealy Yes – I have to see it to write it, but I have to know what they say to each other before I know how they FEEL. #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | ReadingVacation: | Authors – are your settings ever based on real places you have been to or is it all made up? #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | susanjsteward: | @hpinski Good one! Wish I could live there. In the non-Sharkey years. #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | jenfos: | @delzey – is this why most new tv shows (at least ones that catch my interest) seem to happen in Northern Cal – i.e. Parenthood #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | cjomololu: | @cherylherbsman I’ve seen it, but I’ve never lived there. Too many details I didn’t know about. #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | peg366: | @2KoP I definitely think age range is something that effects what setting desription is needed. #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | PeterMcL: | @2KoP oooo, my first ever retweet! I must be getting the hang of this! |
| 1:25 am | mrswritebrain: | Great ideaRT @PeterMcL: I write a full desc of setting in a profile, then only use what a char would NOTICE, or what plot needs. #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | emilytastic: | @cjomololu I had a hard time when I set a book in Cali. Where I’m from, it’s FREEZING in late Dec. Had to keep checking myself. #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | deegarretson: | @lisagailgreen it’s hard to imagine Harry Potter without detailed description of Hogwarts. so fascinating #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | ImFreckles: | thanks RT @KateMessner Fun writing prompt: Make separate lists of characters, plot ideas, settings, genres. Then mix & match! #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | EgmontUSA: | . . . It should be natural, enhancing the experince of your story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | lisagailgreen: | Good one! RT @hpinski: The Shire. RT @susanjsteward: @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | adamselzer: | Whoever first said “write what you know” strikes me as one lazy fellow. Make stuff up! Research if you have to! #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | cjomololu: | Of course, Google Streetview does make things easier now. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | cherylherbsman: | @cjomololu yes, for me the issue w/setting you don’t know is that you don’t know what you’re getting wrong #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | MirandaKennealy: | @ReadingVacation Both – I like to make up fake businesses with funky names, but I like to set them in actual locations. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | SMozer: | RT @KateMessner: Fun writing prompt: Make separate lists of characters, plot ideas, settings, genres. Then mix & match! #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | kristibernard: | RT @gregpincus: RT @KateMessner: Setting descriptions need to be through your character’s eyes rather than your own. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | lisa_schroeder: | @cjomololu Ha – one of my books the characters are trapped in a blizzard. It was hard, imagining what that’d be like. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | RebeccAgent: | ok all if you have recs for books sent in midwest (other than Dairy Queen), send em to me #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | 2KoP: | @cjomololu Sci-fi/fantasy writers write completely imagined setting all the time. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | susanjsteward: | @MirandaKennealy Sometimes I Google images of the place and just sit there and stare and stare. Writers are so nutty! #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | HC_Palmquist: | @MyraMcEntire I feel what they are feeling based on the situation & that dictates the dialogue and the setting to me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | lisagailgreen: | @hpinski @susanjsteward how about the arena in Hunger Games? Not as pleasant but integral to the story #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | cjomololu: | @emilytastic Funny. Someone told me about trying to start their frozen car and I realized I was out of my element. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | Becky_Levine: | oops–hashtag! @MirandaKennealy That’s the prob! Santa Cruz is 20 minutes away. 1913 Chicago is EONS away, time AND distance! #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | pippinmathur: | @KateMessner tip for accurate tornado writing: the color and stillness that procedes it. |
| 1:27 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @ReadingVacation both one of my stories is set in SF where I went to school the other is completely made up down to the animals #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | shimes06: | RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | bonnieadamson: | @ReadingVacation Sometimes room/house descriptions are from memory–not so much larger landscapes. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | cjomololu: | @cherylherbsman Exactly. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | jenfos: | @cjomololu I was just thinking about Google Earth and street maps. Do you think writers more likely to use these types of tools #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | JennRHubbard: | @Becky_Levine Yes, setting is TIME, too–present day, past, or future. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | adamselzer: | @RebeccAgent almost all of mine are set in Cornersville Trace, IA, a fake suburb of Des Moines. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | cjomololu: | @2KoP But nobody is going to tell them they got it wrong |
| 1:27 am | lisagailgreen: | @deegarretson exactly! That was setting done right. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | kristibernard: | RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | EgmontUSA: | @RebeccAgent We’ll have one next summer |
| 1:27 am | malindalo: | I think it’s interesting how many of you are remembering fantasy settings like Hogwarts, the Shire. That’s good worldbuilding! #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | emilytastic: | @cjomololu I’m hoping I can get away with my character getting frostbite during a flood. I think it’s a stretch for San Jose. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | delzey: | RT @adamselzer: Whoever first said “write what you know” strikes me as one lazy fellow. Make stuff up! #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | RebeccAgent: | great job of setting as integral to the story? THE STORM IN THE BARN by Matt Phelan! #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | hpinski: | Strangely, I could never fully picture it. RT @lisagailgreen: @hpinski @susanjsteward how about the arena in Hunger Games? #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | MyraMcEntire: | @HC_Palmquist Sometimes that happens, but mostly I just let ‘em talk in that cracktastic way they have. Wish setting did that! #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | DDHearn: | I think Camp Half-Blood in the Percy Jackson series is a well described setting that helps tell the story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | HC_Palmquist: | My setting is all based on research & imagination since my MC winds up time traveling. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | JennRHubbard: | @cjomololu That’s the tricky part–things we take for granted about our own settings! #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | j_ro333: | RT @kellyhashway: No 2 readers will see setting same way, no matter how well you describe it. Better 2 leave some 2 imagination. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | lisabrowndraws: | Prince Ed Island — from Green Gables RT @susanjsteward: @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | JenniferTrafton: | @malindalo And Narnia! #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | cjomololu: | @jenfos I use Google streetview all the time. Helps if I can’t remember details about a city/town. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | BookEditorLM: | RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @jenfos I do, “drove around” cities in google maps and picked building to base the ones in my story on. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | lisagailgreen: | Ugh have to go make dinner as usual. But it’s been fun thank you! #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | MyraMcEntire: | @HC_Palmquist *sigh* I meant feelings. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | jenfos: | RT @adamselzer: Whoever first said “write what you know” strikes me as one lazy fellow. Make stuff up! Research if you have to! #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | cjomololu: | @emilytastic You are braver than I am. I’m sure you can. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | PeterMcL: | We have to write chars we’ve never been (or maybe never met). Same deal with settings. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | HC_Palmquist: | @MyraMcEntire I can’t WAIT to read Hourglass. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | peg366: | Agreed. RT @DDHearn: I think Camp Half-Blood in the Percy Jackson series is a well described setting that helps tell the story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | DDHearn: | Do you think setting description is more important in fantasy, where it would be unfamiliar to reader? #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | deegarretson: | @ReadingVacation Mine is set at Camp David, so I used what real facts I could find, then made up others to work with the plot #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | 2KoP: | @PeterMcL Congrats. Happy to provide the RT. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | bonnieadamson: | @jenfos Stree maps are creepy–have you ever Googled your own? We have a mystery pickup in the driveway. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | cvaldezmiller: | This makes me happy RT @RebeccAgent I love comtemp novels for MG or YA not set on East Coast or in CA, being Midwesterner myself #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | Becky_Levine: | @lisa_schroeder @cjomolou I’m wrtg about Chicago winter. Born & raised in California. QUITE the challenge! #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | cjomololu: | @JennRHubbard For me anyway. Limits where I can set books. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | j_ro333: | @ReadingVacation I write both. But I prefer making it all up. God complex. |
| 1:29 am | ThePrude: | @gregtrine just click on this tag #kidlitchat and it will take you to the session (if you’re using tweetdeck at least)not sure otherwise |
| 1:29 am | lisabrowndraws: | Or that strange world from A Wrinkle in TIme RT @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | MindyRuiz: | RT @MyraMcEntire: I write the setting as I see it – with too much detail – and then cut 3/4′s of it. *snip snip* #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | HC_Palmquist: | @MyraMcEntire It’s okay. I feel ya! |
| 1:29 am | lindsayeland: | One of the big things I’ve learned about setting is that it should always reveal character. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | jimhill: | Perfect example! RT @RebeccAgent great job of setting as integral to the story? THE STORM IN THE BARN by Matt Phelan #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | jenfos: | @KatGirl_Studio -I also do geneology and when i find English/Scottish roots I go look around. I know different time, still cool #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | delzey: | i read “chairs we’ve never seen” RT @PeterMcL: We have to write chars we’ve never been (or maybe never met). #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | KateMessner: | I make maps & drawings of my made-up towns/neighborhoods to make sure things stay consistent in the book. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | Becky_Levine: | When I was writing about Santa Cruz, from-Long-Island crit partner told me she didn’t know what a banana slug looked like! #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | DDHearn: | The graveyard in The Graveyard Book was a wonderfully described setting to me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | 2KoP: | @cjomololu True, so you must create enough of a fictional world w/i real world to make it work. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | hpinski: | I could never fully picture the arena in The Hunger Games, but I could feel the horror of it, so it worked for me big time. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | cherylherbsman: | @PeterMcL the difference is that they are made up people. If setting is real people who know the place will see where u missed #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | JennRHubbard: | Some settings I remember: The moon in FEED. Miss Havisham’s room. The weather in SPEAK and LIFE AS WE KNEW IT. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | lisabrowndraws: | Time to go to Tahoe. @cjomolou I’m wrtg about Chicago winter. Born & raised in California. QUITE the challenge! #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | jenfos: | @bonnieadamson Sounds like a story in of itself, though maybe not #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | bonnieadamson: | @DDHearn And it was NOTHING like I imagined, in the movie–one of the things that struck a sour note. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | pippinmathur: | Setting that stayed with me-franklin books and toad and frog. Used them during labor as my happy place. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @Becky_Levine hhahahah that’s the best #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | EgmontUSA: | @RebeccAgent For me, the setting of Winter Harbor was really integral to my connection w/ @triciarayburn‘s SIREN. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | susanjsteward: | I’m lucky enough to be living in an odd, colorful neighborhood that others find quaint. So my current setting is . . . here! #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | PattyJMurphy: | @Rebeccagent: As you know, most of Blue Balliet’s books are set in Chicago, Richard Peck’s in Midwest. Love both:) #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | JenniferTrafton: | @KateMessner I too am a manic map-drawer. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | bonnieadamson: | @jenfos Ha! That’s a thought. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | PeterMcL: | Commonplace settings need less desc, because chars wouldn’t notice anything novel. SF/fantasy often otherwise. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | Becky_Levine: | @JennRHubbard And ATTITUDE. |
| 1:30 am | apoulson: | RT @malindalo: I think it’s interesting how many of you are remembering fantasy settings like Hogwarts, the Shire. That’s good worldbuilding! #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | lisabrowndraws: | Off to put kid to bed. Will try to come back… #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | WriterRoss: | RT @JennRHubbard: Some settings I remember: The moon in FEED. Miss Havishams room. The weather in SPEAK and LIFE AS WE KNEW IT. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | cjomololu: | @lisabrowndraws Time to live in Tahoe for a season… #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | DDHearn: | I think the Little House books had a wonderful sense of setting, so important to the story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | jimhill: | @DDHearn I think so (more important in fantasy). Easier to put yourself into a contemporary viewpoint. Less so into Gondor. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | apoulson: | RT @malindalo: I feel like setting is v important to my writing. Place really informs the story. Especially in fantasy, interestingly! #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | 2KoP: | The settings in Holes and the Harry Potter books seem to have painted perfect pictures. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | RebeccAgent: | @egmontusa yes, and I just read the sequel this weekend and indeed @triciarayburn is a master at setting! #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | cjomololu: | Research does help. I’ve never actually been in a hoarded home that was as bad as my book, but I think it worked out. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | bonnieadamson: | Me, too. RT @KateMessner: I make maps & drawings of my made-up towns/neighborhoods #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @KateMessner me too i make floor plans of most of the settings in my stories and maps #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | ThePrude: | @KateMessner That’s a great idea, I never thought of doing that. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | malindalo: | @DDHearn I think fantasy settings are often more extreme, which lends itself to more description. Contemp settings less extreme. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | 2KoP: | @DDHearn The Little House series did seem heavily dependent on setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | jenfos: | Still love Summer of my German soldier – being Jewish girl in South – not fit in. Then add saving the German guy. So painful. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | delzey: | i think setting in fantasy and historical is a given. contemporary, not so much #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | cherylherbsman: | @cjomololu it did |
| 1:32 am | MirandaKennealy: | @DDHearn Agreed! I can remember the Little House descriptions so well even though I haven’t looked at them in probably 15 years. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | mrswritebrain: | My book’s set in Harly, OK–a town so small “Okies say so can stand at one end and spit to the other.” It’s def. a char. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | DDHearn: | @kristibernard If the setting has some impact on the character then I think it stands out more…not just “background”. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | RebeccAgent: | one of my favorite books (and not even client’s book), ELSEWHERE by Gabrielle Zevin does amazing job of creating a world… #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | ReadingVacation: | Reading Harry Potter book 1 out loud to my brother this month. I love how the setting is described. Come to LIFE. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | malindalo: | @cjomololu Still LOLing over your never having seen snow. No Tahoe? We need to take you to the winter! #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | WriterRoss: | Characters that channel the setting –via speech, dress, action–make the place come to life for me. Example: SAVVY #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | Becky_Levine: | @jennRHubbard BTW, I thought you did setting beautifully in The Secret Year. Especially in Colt & Julia’s time together. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | PattyJMurphy: | @gregpincus: Sometimes, setting is smack dab in the center of…a human heart like THE SKY IS EVERYWHERE. Loved it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | pippinmathur: | @DDHearn me too, first graveyard I’ve found comforting and safe (with mysterious edges of course) #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | jenfos: | BINGO – RT @delzey: i think setting in fantasy and historical is a given. contemporary, not so much -Well Said #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | hpinski: | Setting for NEIL ARMSTRONG IS MY UNCLE was brilliantly done. Simple, but vivid. Not intrusive at all. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | RebeccAgent: | …one that no reader knew before but believes in completely while reading #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | adamselzer: | London, the junk shop, Miss Flite’s apt, & the Dedlocke mansion in Bleak House. Todgers & NY in Martin Chuzzlewit #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | cherylherbsman: | RT @WriterRoss: Characters that channel the setting –via speech, dress, action–make the place come to life for me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | MyraMcEntire: | Ramona and Beezus’s house always felt familiar to me. I could settle into the books bc I could settle into the world. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | cjomololu: | @malindalo No, I’ve seen it, but I’ve never LIVED in it. Gone to work, school in it, etc. Big difference. But we can still go |
| 1:33 am | JennRHubbard: | Other good uses of setting: SEASON OF ICE. Also HOLES. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | Becky_Levine: | @2KoP Diagon Alley is perhaps my favorite setting ever. I want to move there. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | PattyJMurphy: | RT @RebeccAgent: one of my favorite books ELSEWHERE by Gabrielle Zevin does amazing job <<<Loved it and her DIARY OF… #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | houndrat: | I personally like setting that’s relevant, enough to get a feel for a place. But if there are pages and pages I’m skimming. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | cjomololu: | @cherylherbsman Thanks. Your book was v. vivid with setting-one of the best. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | JenniferTrafton: | @adamselzer Yes….Dickens is fantastic at this. His places have personality. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | malindalo: | I also love small-town & rural settings, like in DAIRY QUEEN by Catherine Gilbert Murdock. One of my faves. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | RebeccAgent: | I am not saying there are NO books set in Midwest, but not at all in proportion to population #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | jenfos: | Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | JennRHubbard: | @Becky_Levine Thank you! Colt would not be Colt without that river. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @Becky_Levine you can visit the theme park version =^.^= #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | cherylherbsman: | @cjomololu thank you! #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | bonnieadamson: | Oh–THE BOOK THIEF. I could find my way around Liesl’s house in the dark. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | hpinski: | YES!!! RT @jenfos: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | Becky_Levine: | @cjomololu It DID work out. That house in your book is seriously claustrophobic! #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | adamselzer: | @JenniferTrafton I write, read, think and breathe better when I’m reading Dickens. So I do it a lot. |
| 1:35 am | delzey: | love setting in “charlie & chocolate factory” but when i went back to reread it discovered most was in my head #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | ReadingVacation: | Everyone keeps mentioning Holes. I should read that, huh? #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | 2KoP: | @MyraMcEntire To me, Ramona’s house was generic; it was the neighborhood that was vivid. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | peg366: | RT @jenfos: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? so true. yes! #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | DDHearn: | a setting that stayed with me was the attic room in A Little Princess. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | jenfos: | @delzey Really – will have to go back. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | cjomololu: | @malindalo I set my first racially charged novel in my mother’s small Texas town. If it ever pubs she won’t forgive me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | 2KoP: | @ReadingVacation Yep, read it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | Becky_Levine: | Loved the setting in Sarah Beth Durst’s ICE. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | jenfos: | @ReadingVacation – Oh yes. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | JenniferTrafton: | @adamselzer Dickens is the bomb. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | cjomololu: | @Becky_Levine What a nice thing to say! |
| 1:36 am | MyraMcEntire: | @2KoP A painted cat *is* pretty vivid. |
| 1:36 am | JennRHubbard: | @ReadingVacation HOLES is brilliantly plotted as well. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | delzey: | @jenfos most of the images i had weren’t in the book – i added them! #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | malindalo: | @cjomololu I grew up in Colorado. |
| 1:36 am | Becky_Levine: | @KatGirl_Studio Not quite the same! Fell in love w/ Charing Cross Road in 84 Charing Cross Road, then got to go there. Heaven. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | jenfos: | @cjomololu – there’s always that danger #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | adamselzer: | @JenniferTrafton Which one’s your favorite? #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | susanjsteward: | How about the setting of The Giver? #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | theamyshow: | Best book I’ve read in ten years. RT @BonnieAdamson: Oh–THE BOOK THIEF. I could find my way around Liesl’s house in the dark. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | Becky_Levine: | @JennRHubbard That river was perfect. And Julia’s stepping into that world…Lovely. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | MirandaKennealy: | I really liked the setting in Graceling and Fire. I think about it way too often, to be honest. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @adamselzer Dickens is so awesome we even have a historical fair featuring it here in CA #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | jenfos: | @delzey – Doesn’t that show true genius writing? #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | bonnieadamson: | @ReadingVacation Yes–great book. |
| 1:36 am | WriterRoss: | When I think of an author that uses setting in a most integral fashion, I automatically think Steinbeck. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | cjomololu: | @malindalo Ha! Did not know that. If I ever write snow, I’m comin’ to you. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | 2KoP: | @RebeccAgent I’ve set my WIP in the midwest. Here’s hoping it fills a niche. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | mrswritebrain: | @MyraMcEntire Ditto. I always pictured Klickitat St. as my own! #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | DDHearn: | @PeterMcL The trick in fantasy is that the characters wouldn’t think their setting is otherworldy. Describing it can be tricky. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | jenfos: | Another one to age myself – The Westing House Game and other Raskin…. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | JenniferTrafton: | @adamselzer David Copperfield. Betsey and her donkeys. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | JennRHubbard: | More examples of setting wisely used: TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD. THE WHITE DARKNESS. THE CATCHER IN THE RYE. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | cjomololu: | @KatGirl_Studio We do? Where? #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | 2KoP: | @MyraMcEntire True that, painted cat. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | delzey: | @jenfos agreed. and speaks volumes about sparsity in setting #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | KarenninaPosa: | joining #kidlitchat tonight. what’s the topic? |
| 1:38 am | bonnieadamson: | @theamyshow Yes, really resisted reading it–thought it would be too harrowing . . .WAS! But genius. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | PeterMcL: | @DDHearn Good point; didn’t think of that! #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @DDHearn unless the main character is from somewhere else then the world is still otherworldly #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | 2KoP: | @Becky_Levine I want to live in Hagrid’s hut. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | MichelleDEvans: | @delzey or did you watch the charlie movie and have that setting in your head? #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | happybluejess: | ISLAND OF THE BLUE DOLPHINS had a setting that really stuck with me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | delzey: | agreed RT @WriterRoss: When I think of an author that uses setting in a most integral fashion, I automatically think Steinbeck. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | adamselzer: | @JenniferTrafton I’ve read that part out loud to people…and I used the pawnbroker as a gym teacher in one book. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | hpinski: | Fantasy world-building can be annoying. Build me a world but don’t let me realize you’re doing it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | bonnieadamson: | @KarenninaPosa Setting as character. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | cjomololu: | I LOVED Muriel Spark in college. All of her books had the same “feel”-the setting as character. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | jenfos: | Can anyone think of picture books with setting this vibrant and memorable? #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | KateMessner: | Ducking out early to get back to the WIP – but thanks, all, for the conversation! I loved the topic for tonight’s #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @cjomololu http://www.dickensfair.com/ I have performed there for the last 7 years #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | Becky_Levine: | I rarely want more than a paragraph of JUST setting description. I want something to be happening w/ that setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | JennRHubbard: | @WriterRoss Yes to Steinbeck! Although he uses a lot of long descriptive passages in some of his books. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | jafhedlund: | Joining late – looks like topic is setting? #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | peg366: | The Wizard of OZ wouldn’t be the same in another setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | PattyJMurphy: | Both @kamigarcia + @mstohl paint a beautiful + magical world/setting in BEAUTIFUL CREATURES + BEAUTIFUL DARKNESS. *holding arc:) #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | JennRHubbard: | RT @DDHearn: @PeterMcL The trick in fantasy is that the characters wouldn’t think their setting is otherworldy. Describing it can be tricky. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | Becky_Levine: | When I was little, I loved books with attics–those setting stick in my mind still. We don’t really do attics in California. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | WriterRoss: | Do contemporary novels and authors delve as deeply into setting? I think it’s there but in a far less obvious way. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | carsonawaldrop: | @ReadingVacation yea! It is such a good book, as well as a #Disney movie. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | bonnieadamson: | @jafhedlund Yes! Welcome. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | mrswritebrain: | DONKEYS!! LOL RT @JenniferTrafton: @adamselzer David Copperfield. Betsey and her donkeys. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @jenfos all the ones on my shelf =^.^= #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | hpinski: | WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE RT @jenfos: Can anyone think of picture books with setting this vibrant and memorable? #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | 2KoP: | @jenfos Some Dr. Seuss books have pretty vivid settings, but so much setting in PBs is in the illustrations. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | jenfos: | Oh. From the mixed up files of Mrs. Basil E……. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | cjomololu: | @KatGirl_Studio I live right across the bridge. Marking my calendar now-thanks! #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | peg366: | me, too. RT @Becky_Levine: I rarely want more than a paragraph of JUST setting description. I want something to be happening… #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | JenniferTrafton: | @peg366 Second only to Narnia, Oz was the setting of my imagination growing up. #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | kellyhashway: | It’s great when a character goes to a new setting and the reader can discover it along with him/her. #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | JennRHubbard: | @jenfos PB: ALL THE WORLD. #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | ReadingVacation: | @jenfos Alphabet Mystery. One of my favorite picture books of all time. #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | RebeccAgent: | of course setting not just place, but also TIME just as important when writing comtemp as historical must read authentically now #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | WriterRoss: | @JennRHubbard Love reading his long passages but don’t think I could write them today (or would they end on cutting room floor?) #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | delzey: | **crickets** #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | adamselzer: | Now, you want a cat who spent a LONG time on describing setting, take Victor Hugo… #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | DDHearn: | @KatGirl_Studio You’re right. It helps if a character in a fantasy story is from another place. He’ll be the reader’s eyes. #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | lisagailgreen: | Ok I lied. I’m in and out… can’t tear myself away #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | Becky_Levine: | @2KoP Okay, you have the hut. I’ll have Fortescue’s ice cream parlor! #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | KarenninaPosa: | don’t understand fully how setting can be character so tonight’s #kidlitchat is great! looking forward to learning |
| 1:42 am | LauraRenegar: | I love that book. RT @happybluejess: ISLAND OF THE BLUE DOLPHINS had a setting that really stuck with me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | lisagailgreen: | The Lorax RT @jenfos: Can anyone think of picture books with setting this vibrant and memorable? #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | mrswritebrain: | Me too-read it in 6th grade-still vivid RT @happybluejess: ISLAND OF THE BLUE DOLPHINS had a setting that really stuck with me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | kellyhashway: | @peg366 The title would have to change, too! #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | delzey: | @Becky_Levine or basements. #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | MyraMcEntire: | Off to work on a new setting of my own! |
| 1:42 am | EgmontUSA: | @hpinski Worldbuilding’s a problem when the writer doesn’t take out “the bible.” It’s the setup materiall, not the content. #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | mgbuehrlen: | @KatGirl_Studio Thank, God. I do that too! And I’ve gotten flack for it too. I like my maps and floor plans! #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | DDHearn: | @jenfos I think the difficulty with PBs is that the setting is usually described for us in the illustrations. Different feeling. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @Becky_Levine ya i don’t think I have ever been in an attic (I’m in CA too) #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | susanjsteward: | @jenfos Trying to think. Van Allsburg–Polar Express? Um . . . The Snowy Day? #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | cherylherbsman: | @WriterRoss I wouldn’t say it’s less deep, just less overt, fewer lengthy descriptions #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | jafhedlund: | I loved all hideaways RT @Becky_Levine: When I was little, I loved books with attics–We dont really do attics in California. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | JennRHubbard: | @Becky_Levine Yes, I always wanted a book-type attic! We had a crawl space full of insulation. ;-( #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | ReadingVacation: | RT @peg366: The Wizard of OZ wouldn’t be the same in another setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | kellyhashway: | It’s great when a character goes to a new setting and the reader can experience it with him/her. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | cherylherbsman: | @WriterRoss I wouldn’t say it’s less deep, just less overt, fewer lengthy descriptions. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | KarenninaPosa: | setting as character means it changes/develops? directly affected by plot? or participant in plot? #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | 2KoP: | @jenfos So much of PB’s settings are done through illustration; Dr. Seuss. #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | happybluejess: | @Becky_Levine For me, gardens really stuck in my mind. And big mansions. Like in THE SECRET GARDEN. #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | mgbuehrlen: | ME TOO. >> RT @MyraMcEntire: I write the setting as I see it – with too much detail – and then cut 3/4′s of it. *snip snip* #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | KarenninaPosa: | @BonnieAdamson thanks! great topic #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | joshferrin: | #kidlitchat PB’s with great settings: Where the Wild Things Are, Knuffle Bunny, Calvin & Hobbes (not a PB, but I still got lost in C&H world |
| 1:44 am | jafhedlund: | Has anyone mentioned the Narnia Chronicles yet? There’s a setting that worked. #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | 2KoP: | @Becky_Levine deal. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | PetaAndersen: | @WriterRoss #kidlitchat Contemporary as in setting or author? When You Reach Me has a very strong setting; it’s almost a character. |
| 1:45 am | happybluejess: | @JennRHubbard Love the aerial view of the ocean in that one! #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | peg366: | @JenniferTrafton I love Narnia, too. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | EgmontUSA: | @hpinski Worldbuilding’s a problem when the writer doesn’t take out “the bible.” It’s the setup material, not the content. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | delzey: | @Becky_Levine or basements. #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | jafhedlund: | Agree that setting in PBs are mostly in illos – unless the story is about the setting itself *racks brains for example* #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | delzey: | did we break twitter? #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | 2KoP: | RT @kellyhashway: It’s great when a character goes to a new setting and reader can discover it along with him/her.#kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | JennRHubbard: | @WriterRoss I think the styles have changed, so I’d say the rule is no more long descriptions–but every rule has exceptions #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | jafhedlund: | Got one! Goodnight Moon. I’d say she set the setting pretty well in that one. |
| 1:46 am | katydidcamp: | RT @2KoP: RT @PeterMcL: I write a full desc of setting in a profile, then use what char would NOTICE or what plot needs. #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | RebeccAgent: | somethings up with twitter. Might be my cue to say goodnight #kidlitchat |
| 1:47 am | SheviStories: | Sorry I’m so very late. What’s tonight’s topic? #kidlitchat |
| 1:47 am | jenfos: | @KatGirl_Studio You are right. I guess it isn’t really a good question for PB. Because of the art is is memorable #kidlitchat |
| 1:47 am | 2KoP: | RT @RebeccAgent: of course setting not just place, but also TIME <<<True. #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | DDHearn: | @jenfos I think the difficulty with PBs is that the setting is usually described for us in the illustrations.Different feeling. #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | peg366: | Tweetchat is down #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | jafhedlund: | Got one! Goodnight Moon. She made the setting the story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | Becky_Levine: | @delzey Exactly! Well, we have one, but the house was built in 1929 on a hill, so we call it the closed-in area, or the dungeon! #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | susanjsteward: | New question, kidlitchatters! Do you set things where you *are*, have been, or where you’d *like* to be? #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | peg366: | Yep. RT @kellyhashway: @peg366 The title would have to change, too! #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | WriterRoss: | RT @JennRHubbard: @jenfos PB: ALL THE WORLD. Yes yes yes. A contemporary picture book that -reeks- of old-fashioned place. #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | Becky_Levine: | @happybluejess Secret Garden-oh, yeah. And wild animals. |
| 1:49 am | Becky_Levine: | @MirandaKennealy I am, and wishing every day that it wasn’t QUITE so long ago, and I could TALK to people about it! #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | PeterMcL: | @KarenninaPosa Setting is a character when it takes an *active* role in the plot(?). #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | ReadingVacation: | Yes, TIME is important. Sometimes it is hard for me to tell WHEN a story took place. #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | Tiare75: | @Becky_Levine I’ve always hated that we don’t do attics in CA. Or basements, unless in the Bay Area. #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | jenfos: | @lisagailgreen Lorax is one of my favorites. First book I bought with my own money (along with a pair of plastic high heels). #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | happybluejess: | THE STORY OF FERDINAND RT @jenfos: Can anyone think of picture books with setting this vibrant and memorable? #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | gregpincus: | Ahh, Twitter fail just when I was circling back to #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | jafhedlund: | Sorry for the multiples of tweets. Tweetchat keeps telling me they fail, but then they show up #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | Becky_Levine: | @JennRHubbard Crawl spaces leave no room for the imagination. #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | PattyJMurphy: | RT @MyraMcEntire: Off to work on a new setting of my own! |
| 1:49 am | Becky_Levine: | @KatGirl_Studio Me, either! I am going to have to hunt down an attic some day. #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | jenfos: | @DDHearn I think you are right. I just can’t think of one that resonates as much as the middle grade stuff. Is it me? #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | mrswritebrain: | I always wanted to live with the March family. That house is so real and comforting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | SheviStories: | Sorry I’m so very late. What’s the topic? What did I miss? (TweetChat is down, it seems.) #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | Tiare75: | @RebeccAgent I don’t come across many books set here in CA, either. Well, YA maybe, but not MG. #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | Becky_Levine: | @Tiare75 Basements don’t seem as “romantic.” All the ones I’ve seen are just turned into playrooms! #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @mgbuehrlen flack why? #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | bonnieadamson: | @KarenninaPosa Good post here on setting as character in dystopian novels: http://bit.ly/9tcwy1 #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | deegarretson: | The Secret Garden setting – I still want a secret garden of my own even after all these years #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | adamselzer: | I always wanted an elevator operator. #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | JenniferTrafton: | @Becky_Levine Did you ever read BEHIND THE ATTIC WALL? #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | EgmontGal: | Wow, I finally got on! Twitter is crazy today. Hi. #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | kellyhashway: | Sorry for the duplicate posts. Tweetchat isn’t being nice to me right now. #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | WriterRoss: | I am in an incredible time-delayed universe here. (Hah. My first foray into SF.) Logging out to try to catch up to Real Life. #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | Becky_Levine: | Setting in a picture book–Jim Averbeck’s In a Blue Room. Definitely layered by the illustrations, but in the text, too. #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | mrswritebrain: | @camarshall Has a great blog post about using google maps for setting research. http://bit.ly/dc8hxd #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | 2KoP: | Scary settings in kidlit: Iqbal; They Cage the Animals at Night; Coraline; The Breadwinner #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | Becky_Levine: | @JenniferTrafton THE ATTIC WALL-I haven’t read. Guessing I should? How about MAGIC ELIZABETH? #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | EgmontUSA: | @JennRHubbard @Becky_Levine Books made me want to move into my attic. It was the mission that never quite happened. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | SheviStories: | Sorry I’m so very late. What’s the topic? What did I miss? #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | PetaAndersen: | @DDHearn @jenfos #kidlitchat Miss Rumphius uses setting very well. So do to the Janelle Canon books–Verdi, Stellaluna &c, I think. |
| 1:52 am | EgmontGal: | @RebeccAgent Hi Rebecca, saw our pal Anthony tonight and debated Harry Potter v. Philip Pullman. And Punkzilla, Metal Children. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | 2KoP: | Ooh, great settings in The Secret Garden & The Little Princess. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | Becky_Levine: | @MirandaKennealy @libbabray writing re 1913 Chicago. Ack! Oh, well, prob different story! I can’t even THINK re competing there. #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | jenfos: | @2KoP I agree – they are more integrated and remembered in the pictures. Not built in our minds with the prose. That’s the dif #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | jimhill: | I’m a sucker for a well described meal. Maybe that’s place setting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | Becky_Levine: | @EgmontUSA @JennRHubbard And Secret Garden made me want to garden. Also never happened! #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | delzey: | is there a PB with a great setting that isn’t visual? #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | peg366: | In pbs the setting you as a writer envision might not be the same as the one envisioned by the illustrator. #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | EgmontGal: | @adamselzer how about Thomas Hardy? Ton ‘o setting. Would like to see that in a YA novel (but we probably couldn’t sell it!) #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | happybluejess: | Also the 100 Acre Wood in WINNIE THE POOH. The kids love looking at the detailed map in the front. #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @JennRHubbard I had a crawl space door in my room at a kid but it had been painted shut and was 12 feet in the air #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | JohansenNewman: | Me, too!! And the whole town. @BonnieAdamson Oh–THE BOOK THIEF. I could find my way around Liesl’s house in the dark. #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | PetaAndersen: | @jafhedlund #kidlitchat I saw Narnia come up, but not LOTR or The Hobbit. Love the setting in The Hobbit. |
| 1:54 am | hpinski: | Great topic, great chat! Night all. #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | adamselzer: | Humbling to remember: write what ya will, most/many readers’ mental image will be based on the cover (if it’s that kinda cover) #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | JenniferTrafton: | @jafhedlund Yes, we have several Narnians in this chat. Someday I will live there, by golly. #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | DDHearn: | I can’t get through anymore on Tweetchat or Twitter. #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | jimhill: | @jafhedlund Any fantasy that requires transportation to a new world requires it. Narnia, Oz, Hogwarts, Middle-Earth #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | mgbuehrlen: | @KatGirl_Studio I had someone editing it and was excited to show her my map/etc and she was like, dude, keep it to yourself. #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | peg366: | Huck Finn, Pippi Longstockings are two where the setting was important. #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | mgbuehrlen: | @KatGirl_Studio I dunno. Just made me feel so small, like I was CRAZAY. #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | gregpincus: | I am afraid my time is done – like the sun is setting, so to speak – for #kidlitchat tonight. Carry on! Transcript sooooon! |
| 1:56 am | WriterRoss: | @PetaAndersen Yes to WHEN YOU REACH ME. Very much a city-centric book. I related. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | peg366: | Many of Jan Brett’s books have distinct settings that make the story as well. For a pb. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | SheviStories: | @jafhedlund Owl Moon? #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | DDHearn: | So, I don’t know what is happening with twitter tonight, but I guess I’ll sign off. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | happybluejess: | Neverland is a memorable setting to me, too. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | SheviStories: | @jafhedlund Or maybe, I Love You the Purplest. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | DDHearn: | So, I don’t know what is happening with twitter tonight, but I guess I’ll sign off. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | Becky_Levine: | Twitter and Tweetchat are seriously wonky. Think I’ll sign off & think about setting at Hull-House, way back when! Night, all. #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | bonnieadamson: | @delzey Something has. #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | PetaAndersen: | @jafhedlund #kidlitchat story about setting – Ezra Jack Keats’ The Snowy Day, Eric Carle’s Dream Snow. |
| 1:58 am | adamselzer: | Humbling to think: write what you will, many readers’ mental image will just come from the cover. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | kellyhashway: | I think kidlitchat broke twitter. Goodnight all. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | WriterRoss: | Nancy Werlin advised writers to write from the “basement” — let those hidden things come out on page. I am afraid of basemnts! #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | SheviStories: | One more: Where the Wild Things Are. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | bonnieadamson: | @SheviStories Setting as character/importance of setting #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | delzey: | ok, tweetchat and hootsuite aren’t working for me, so i’m going to have to shut down. good times, tweeps. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | PetaAndersen: | #kidlitchat Diary of a Wombat and the Madeleine books use setting really well, too – In an old house in Paris that was covered in vines… |
| 2:00 am | WriterRoss: | @DDHearn It wasn’t just me? Whewsh. #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | SheviStories: | There seems to be a five-minute lag time for my posts. Anyone else experiencing this? #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | wellreadchild: | Picture books with memorable settings: Knuffle Bunny and The Girl in the Castle Inside the Museum #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | PeterMcL: | @susanjsteward I set things where the plot requires them to be! #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | WriterRoss: | RT @JennRHubbard: @WriterRoss I think the styles have changed, so I’d say the rule is no more long descriptions–but every rule has exceptions #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | PetaAndersen: | What about the Madeleine L’Engle books? The house in A Wrinkle in Time, & the NE setting really spoke to me. #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | jenfos: | RT @mrswritebrain: @camarshall Has a great blog post about using google maps for setting research. http://bit.ly/dc8hxd #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @mgbuehrlen much more likely that she was crazy #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | bonnieadamson: | Thank you all for struggling with twitter woes tonight. Enjoyed the convo–what I could follow, at least! ‘Night! #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | jenfos: | @delzey that’s the question I was trying to ask. #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | SheviStories: | I have a YA that takes place in a theme park, but from the POV of ghosts there. The setting is integral to the story. #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | aimeebartis: | @MyraMcEntire I missed #kidlitchat but saw you tweet about Ramona. The boys and I started reading Ramona & Her Father. in love again |
| 2:03 am | PetaAndersen: | @WriterRoss #kidlitchat I’ve only been to NY a couple of times, so When You Reach Me was familiar but unfamiliar, which I loved… |
| 2:03 am | KatGirl_Studio: | night everyone, I’m back to painting sketch cards for charity #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | SheviStories: | Another PB where the setting is important: Eloise. Only at the Plaza! #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | delzey: | @jenfos i totally did a walk-thru of an old NY neighborhood for research in a bio using street view #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | cherylherbsman: | @adamselzer funny thing about covers — i find people who know my cover online expect me to look like the model on it #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | jenfos: | @WriterRoss: “basement” — let those hidden things come out on page. I am afraid of basemnts! – I am afraid of those things #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | peg366: | @bonnieadamson Night Bonnie and Greg and all the great fellow tweeters. #kidlitchat |
| 2:05 am | happybluejess: | Thanks all! Good night! #kidlitchat |
| 2:05 am | jafhedlund: | Came late, but gotta go. Night all! #kidlitchat |
| 2:07 am | SheviStories: | I think setting is important because it reveals who the characters are in the way they view & interact with it. #kidlitchat |
| 2:08 am | JennRHubbard: | @KatGirl_Studio That mysterious door is begging for a story! #kidlitchat |
| 2:08 am | SheviStories: | @delzey I have a story that takes place in NYC. Used Google Earth to show me street-level views, a virtual walk-through. #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | jenfos: | Ciao all. Good talk. Made me think. #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | delzey: | @kellyhashway actually, i think GLEE tweets broke twitter #kidlitchat |
| 2:10 am | mgbuehrlen: | So sorry I missed #kidlitchat b/c Twitter was down. There’s always next week. |
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