Kidlitchat Transcript – June 8

1:00 am bonnieadamson: TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat
1:00 am EgmontUSA: I’m here. I’m here. Hi all. #kidlitchat
1:00 am kellyhashway: Hi, everyone! #kidlitchat
1:00 am lisagailgreen: Ok all seems quiet on the Western front…. lets give #kidlitchat a try!
1:00 am jenfos: First time to try this chat thing #kidlitchat
1:00 am adamselzer: I set most of my books in the same town. It’s definitely a character. #kidlitchat
1:00 am hpinski: Hi everyone! #kidlitchat
1:00 am EgmontUSA: Hi @hrootchat. :o ) #kidlitchat
1:01 am peg366: @EgmontUSA Hi back. Hello Kelly. #kidlitchat
1:01 am gregpincus: Let’s get this #kidlitchat party started, shall we?
1:01 am gregpincus: TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat
1:01 am adamselzer: I like showing the ways different characters perceive the same town. #kidlitchat
1:01 am hpinski: @jenfos welcome! #kidlitchat
1:01 am kidlitchat: TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat
1:01 am lisabrowndraws: Setting: well absolutely. Thinking in particular about my historical fiction. #kidlitchat
1:02 am peg366: The setting is different for each of my pbs. #kidlitchat
1:02 am jenfos: @hpinski Thanks. We’ll see if hungry kids will cooperate? #kidlitchat
1:02 am lisagailgreen: @adamselzer Yes! I think the key is in perception. A reflection of how the character feels/thinks #kidlitchat
1:02 am mrswritebrain: No GLEE for me tonight! Great topic–one I need to work on! #kidlitchat
1:02 am hrootchat: @EgmontUSA Howdy yourself! #kidlitchat
1:02 am cjomololu: I can only set a book in a place I’m very familiar with. People in my town recognize places in my book all the time. #kidlitchat
1:02 am kellyhashway: I write mostly fantasy so setting is a major character. #kidlitchat
1:02 am shimes06: haha, due to the glee finale? well honestly that’s why i was away so long…kidlit was same night as LOST ;) #kidlitchat
1:02 am jenfos: It seems like sometimes the setting may try to be bland and “anytown” USA ish. Is that really a character? #kidlitchat
1:03 am deegarretson: @gregpincus I haven’t watched Glee. I don’t want to get sucked into another show I can’t miss. #kidlitchat
1:03 am JennRHubbard: I used a river as a character, sort of. #kidlitchat
1:03 am delzey: greetings all. so the question is how is a raven like a writing desk? #kidlitchat
1:03 am enrichingkids: No Glee for me either, How is everyone? #kidlitchat
1:03 am MirandaKennealy: Setting – sure, it’s like a character. Every place has its own nuances and quirks and secrets, just like people. #kidlitchat
1:03 am JennRHubbard: Another interesting question about setting: could your story have happened anywhere else? #kidlitchat
1:04 am EgmontUSA: Why is tweetchat dead! Trying tweetgrid. #kidlitchat
1:04 am shimes06: ok, so tweetchat is not showing current posts…*sigh* #kidlitchat
1:04 am PattyJMurphy: RT @gregpincus: Will #kidlitchat be quiet due to season finale of #glee and Lakers/Celtics game? <<<Multi-taskers’ll be here:) #kidlitchat
1:04 am adamselzer: @delzey because there is a b in both. #kidlitchat
1:04 am lisabrowndraws: In my pbs, a sense of setting is done with color palette. #kidlitchat
1:04 am paulgreci: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat
1:04 am srjohannes: hi guys! what is topic tonight? #kidlitchat
1:04 am delzey: the vast majority of my stories are all set in the same fictitious town, so the town does have it’s own story like a character #kidlitchat
1:04 am hpinski: parts of my settings become like characters, places of significance. #kidlitchat
1:04 am hrootchat: GREAT question! RT @JennRHubbard: Another interesting question about setting: could your story have happened anywhere else? #kidlitchat
1:04 am gregpincus: I think the setting interacts and changes based on how people interact with it… hence a character for me. #kidlitchat
1:04 am cjomololu: In my hoarding book, the house was definitely a character. In my WIP it’s San Francisco and Berkeley. #kidlitchat
1:04 am gregpincus: RT @JennRHubbard: Another interesting question about setting: could your story have happened anywhere else? #kidlitchat
1:04 am pippinmathur: Great topic! I’m struggling with this in a pb wip. #kidlitchat
1:04 am jenfos: But just to be a contrarian – sometimes don’t you want it to be generic? I.e. encyclopedia brown? #kidlitchat
1:04 am bonnieadamson: Has anyone been reading Nathan Bransford’s posts on setting as character? #kidlitchat
1:05 am Becky_Levine: Oh! #kidlitchat
1:05 am RebeccAgent: Hi all #kidlitchat
1:05 am pippinmathur: @lisabrowndraws great way to think about it. #kidlitchat
1:05 am peg366: @bonnieadamson I have been reading his posts. #kidlitchat
1:05 am hpinski: I agree. RT @jenfos: But just to be a contrarian – sometimes dont you want it to be generic? I.e. encyclopedia brown? #kidlitchat
1:05 am Becky_Levine: Is the topic setting? One of my favorites! Let me feed the kid & I’ll try and drop back in! #kidlitchat
1:05 am john_zeleznik: Hullo, do we have atopic yet? #kidlitchat
1:06 am hrootchat: @jenfos Definitely, some books are more about micro-setting (a home, a school, a neighborhood) rather than geographical/regional #kidlitchat
1:06 am jenfos: I agree in many cases it is vitally important – fantasy, historical fiction, where it is critical to the theme of the story. #kidlitchat
1:06 am TheAsianAngel: The setting should benefit the story. From the surrounding, your character should be able to pull what he/she needs. #kidlitchat
1:06 am gregpincus: @john_zeleznik You can check @kidlitchat for the topic (tweeted at the top of the hour) #kidlitchat
1:06 am deegarretson: in my stories a specific location is essential to the plot, but I can see where in many it wouldn’t matter so much #kidlitchat
1:06 am EgmontUSA: @shimes06 I logged out and logged back in, and it worked. Try it. Maybe it’ll work for you, #kidlitchat
1:06 am JenniferTrafton: Part of Dickens’ genius was connecting character and setting, making a person mirror the characteristics of his/her place. #kidlitchat
1:07 am KatGirl_Studio: in my wordless PB/graphic novel the setting is definitely a character #kidlitchat
1:07 am jenfos: @hrootchat Right -and sometimes we want readers (kids) to identify as if it is their own – so setting may not be unique chrcter #kidlitchat
1:07 am hpinski: RT @TheAsianAngel: The setting should benefit the story…character should be able to pull what he/she needs. #kidlitchat
1:07 am shimes06: “Everything happens somewhere” — Pieter Haag #kidlitchat
1:07 am RebeccAgent: a client of mine has a book coming out in the fall where setting is essential THE JUMBEE, set in caribbean #kidlitchat
1:07 am delzey: @jenfos on the other hand, with something like a beginning reader setting can be nearly nonexistent. #kidlitchat
1:07 am jenfos: RT @shimes06: “Everything happens somewhere”– Pieter Haag #kidlitchat
1:08 am gregpincus: @TheAsianAngel So the setting should benefit the story like a specific haracter that serves a purpose? #kidlitchat
1:08 am PaulWHankins: @kidlitchat Thank you for the follow. Lurking tonight. I always like to see what everyone says. Going back to summer reading. #kidlitchat
1:08 am JennRHubbard: Sometimes I feel I know a real-life setting, & then I realize I only know it thru a book. That’s a well-done setting! #kidlitchat
1:08 am jenfos: @delzey exactly. So sometimes setting is a character and sometimes not. #kidlitchat
1:08 am KatGirl_Studio: but with all my stories lots of work goes into the settings, sometimes i even do environment paintings and make schematics #kidlitchat
1:08 am lisabrowndraws: But, in historical fic as well as contemporary, you run the risk of being TOO specific, and then readers can’t relate. #kidlitchat
1:08 am bonnieadamson: Yes! RT @JenniferTrafton: Part of Dickens’ genius was connecting character and setting, making a person mirror his/her place. #kidlitchat
1:09 am deegarretson: Having trouble with tweetchat, may have to figure out how to use tweetgrid #kidlitchat
1:09 am mrswritebrain: My book couldn’t have been set anywhere else, (tiny, rural town). It’s vital to who my characters are/become. #kidlitchat
1:09 am ReadingVacation: @hrootchat Right -and sometimes we want readers (kids) to identify as if it is their own – so setting may not be unique chrcter #kidlitchat
1:09 am srjohannes: i think setting is so important 2 the tone of the bk. However, I dont think u HAVE 2b region/city specific. Just make it real. #kidlitchat
1:09 am gregpincus: @RebeccAgent I’m also thinking of something like @PamBachorz and Candor where the setting is KEY. No book without it. #kidlitchat
1:09 am jenfos: RT @JennRHubbard: Sometimes I feel I know a real-life setting, & then realize I only know thru a book.Thats a well-done setting! #kidlitchat
1:09 am PaulWHankins: By the by, setting was crucial to the man on my right. Would we have bought this story if he hid in another town? Probably not. #kidlitchat
1:09 am RebeccAgent: in client Lisa Railsback’s upcoming BETTI ON HIGH WIRE about kid adopted from another country, country intentionally unnamed #kidlitchat
1:09 am KateMessner: My novels all have specific, detail-rich settings but my chapter book series is more “any-school USA.” #kidlitchat
1:09 am delzey: but as a kid i hated description and setting in books. i wanted to hear what people were saying and thinking #kidlitchat
1:10 am lisabrowndraws: Yes! Think about The Arrival by Shaun Tan RT @KatGirl_Studio: in wordless PB/graphic novel the setting is definitely a character #kidlitchat
1:10 am ReadingVacation: @srjohannes I agree. #kidlitchat
1:10 am TheAsianAngel: @gregpincus Exactly. You should take advantage of where and when your character is to move the story forward. Example to follow #kidlitchat
1:10 am RebeccAgent: in part b/c war torn country and symbolizes pain of coming from any war torn country #kidlitchat
1:10 am chrstinef: @srjohannes @ReadingVacation agreed #kidlitchat
1:10 am KatGirl_Studio: @lisabrowndraws yes that book is fantastic #kidlitchat
1:10 am jenfos: @delzey I’m with you again. Sometimes it’s best to move fast and skip too much of the landscape painting #kidlitchat
1:11 am JennRHubbard: Do you know your character first, then setting? Setting first? Or both together? #kidlitchat
1:11 am gothicmangaka: @kidlitchat Setting of our book (series) is a central character absolutely. (Series named for the Island in fact) #kidlitchat
1:11 am RebeccAgent: also because the focus is the fish out of water story of coming to US and finding the true definition of home #kidlitchat
1:11 am delzey: and an unfamiliar setting can serve as a barrier to a reader looking to connect, esp w/ reluctant readers (i.e. boys) #kidlitchat
1:11 am KateMessner: Setting is important for character development, too – Our landscapes help to define us as human beings. #kidlitchat
1:11 am 2KoP: RT @srjohannes: setting is important 2 tone of bk. dont think u HAVE 2b region/city specific. Just make it real. #kidlitchat
1:11 am EgmontUSA: RT @gregpincus: @RebeccAgent I’m also thinking of something like @PamBachorz and Candor where the setting is KEY. No book without it. #kidlitchat
1:11 am tehawesomersace: Still that way! RT @delzey: as a kid i hated description and setting in books. wanted to hear what people were saying/thinking #kidlitchat
1:12 am sharifwrites: @delzey I lost interest if it was overdone. #kidlitchat
1:12 am malindalo: I feel like setting is v important to my writing. Place really informs the story. Especially in fantasy, interestingly! #kidlitchat
1:12 am hpinski: RT @KateMessner: Setting is important for character development, too – Our landscapes help to define us as human beings. #kidlitchat
1:12 am lisabrowndraws: @delzey sometimes description is all I want, ie Little House’s log cabin building chapter, but then, I’m a history geek #kidlitchat
1:12 am MirandaKennealy: This is going to sound pathetic, but no matter what book I read, I picture the MC’s house as the first house I ever lived in. #kidlitchat
1:12 am Brent_Watson41: Has one eye on the #Celtics and one eye on #kidlitchat
1:12 am deegarretson: I love to read books where the setting is so unique and/or detailed, I want to go to that place, esp. exotic or unknown to me. #kidlitchat
1:12 am kellyhashway: @JennRHubbard My setting and MC developed together. I think they have to in order to really support each other. #kidlitchat
1:12 am PeterMcL: As a kid, I used to hate excess desc of setting. I didn’t care about the paint. Tell me what happened! Maybe a boy thing. #kidlitchat
1:12 am JenniferTrafton: A few well-chosen details, seamlessly connected to the character’s personality/actions, make a setting impt but not boring. #kidlitchat
1:12 am lisabrowndraws: @JennRHubbard For last novel, def. setting driven. Well, time period. Then locale. #kidlitchat
1:12 am KateMessner: My last three book ideas have grown out of a setting that intrigued me. #kidlitchat
1:13 am angie_frazier: Setting is always what I begin with. Characters build from there, and like @KateMessner said, landscapes define us. #kidlitchat
1:13 am shimes06: in terms of books like alice in wonderland, wizard of oz, moby dick etc…the setting IS a character #kidlitchat
1:13 am jenfos: On other hand – sometimes the where is critical – Thinking of Summer of my German soldier – best because the whos in the wheres #kidlitchat
1:13 am delzey: @MirandaKennealy exactly, i need to be able to see what’s being described, so i overlay settings with my memories #kidlitchat
1:13 am delzey: @PeterMcL agreed, x2 #kidlitchat
1:13 am bonnieadamson: Just finished CHARLES AND EMMA–setting (time and place) so well described; crucial in understanding Darwin. #kidlitchat
1:13 am gregpincus: @KateMessner I agree settings help with character. but that is true without specificity sometimes: a mountain vs. named mt. #kidlitchat
1:13 am PattyJMurphy: @gregpincus: Have a post-it w/SEE, HEAR, TASTE, TOUCH, SMELL by my computer. Reminds me to uses senses as vehicles to setting. #kidlitchat
1:13 am adamselzer: It’s really all about sneaking it in. A large percentage of kids WILL skip over long passages of description. #kidlitchat
1:13 am PaulWHankins: @KateMessner Sugar and Ice made me want to pack up and move to Claire’s town. Lovely setting and descriptions. #kidlitchat
1:13 am ReadingVacation: In some stories, I like to picture myself in the setting. #kidlitchat
1:13 am angie_frazier: RT @shimes06: in terms of books like alice in wonderland, wizard of oz, moby dick etc…the setting IS a character #kidlitchat
1:13 am JennRHubbard: @petermcl But there are other ways to elicit setting than with straight narrative description. Thank goodness. #kidlitchat
1:14 am lisagailgreen: I think the key is to not overdo it, just pull the elements of the place that work with furthering your story and characters #kidlitchat
1:14 am jenfos: @lisabrowndraws – it all goes to the type of book and the target reader #kidlitchat
1:14 am susanjsteward: @delzey Shoot, I forgot to write #kidlitchat! :) Anyway, as a writer I’ve never enjoyed having to write setting descriptions . #kidlitchat
1:14 am kellyhashway: @PeterMcL Not a boy thing. I was the same way. But I think the description should be only what’s important to the story. #kidlitchat
1:14 am delzey: @adamselzer and some of adults, too #kidlitchat
1:14 am cjomololu: @adamselzer I agree. Write it as the kid would see it-no long descriptions. #kidlitchat
1:14 am hpinski: I enjoy reading both, books where some facet of the setting is a character in and of itself, and setting as a generic backdrop. #kidlitchat
1:14 am lisabrowndraws: @delzey The danger is when you are too specific, so reader can’t overlay their own memories over your setting. #kidlitchat
1:14 am KatGirl_Studio: @ReadingVacation i do that with all the books i read… and write #kidlitchat
1:15 am JenniferTrafton: @PattyJMurphy Flannery O’Connor said it takes three senses to make a place real. #kidlitchat
1:15 am 2KoP: RT @JenniferTrafton: A few well-chosen details, seamlessly connected to character’s personality/actions.#kidlitchat
1:15 am bonnieadamson: @MirandaKennealy I think that’s fascinating. Personal landscape seeps into so many things. #kidlitchat
1:15 am peg366: @adamselzer That was me as a kid. I skimmed over a lot of description. #kidlitchat
1:15 am kellyhashway: Yes! RT @JennRHubbard: @petermcl But there are other ways to elicit setting than with straight narrative description. #kidlitchat
1:15 am HC_Palmquist: I think a lot of times setting is key to keep the suspension of disbelief plausible for the rest of the world or story. #kidlitchat
1:15 am lisabrowndraws: RT @JennRHubbard: @petermcl But there are other ways to elicit setting than with straight narrative description. Thank goodness. #kidlitchat
1:15 am adamselzer: @delzey I’d about go so far as to say “most.” #kidlitchat
1:15 am gregpincus: @PattyJMurphy Yes, engaging the senses is a key tool in writing. It’s why I “spill” coffee on manuscripts before mailing ‘em #kidlitchat
1:15 am MyraMcEntire: NICE. RT PattyJMurphy Have post-it w/SEE, HEAR, TASTE, TOUCH, SMELL by computer. Reminds to use senses as vehicles to setting. #kidlitchat
1:15 am Brent_Watson41: @RebeccAgent sounds like a great book. I have many who could relate. About a third of my students were born in Somalia or Sudan. #kidlitchat
1:15 am j_ro333: I completely changed the setting and kept nearly the entire story for Kringle Khronicles. Some minor things changed. #kidlitchat
1:15 am JennRHubbard: RT @lisabrowndraws: @delzey The danger is when you are too specific, so reader can’t overlay their own memories over your setting. #kidlitchat
1:15 am hpinski: Well put. RT @lisabrowndraws: @delzey The danger is when you are too specific, reader cant overlay their own memories… #kidlitchat
1:16 am bonnieadamson: @deegarretson I think that’s why I love Rosamund Pilcher novels. I want to be there, down to roses on table. #kidlitchat
1:16 am PeterMcL: I don’t think setting should be forced in unless it’s necessary for some other purpose! #kidlitchat
1:16 am lisabrowndraws: So how to elicit setting w/out description? Ideas? #kidlitchat
1:16 am adamselzer: Not to say it isn’t important in most books, but you can’t count on all readers to be GOOD readers. Gotta be sneaky! #kidlitchat
1:16 am sharifwrites: When the setting matches the tone of the story, it does feel like there’s another character in the fringes. #kidlitchat
1:16 am 2KoP: Yes! RT @lisabrowndraws: @delzey When you are too specific, reader can’t overlay their memories over your setting.#kidlitchat
1:16 am KateMessner: @PaulWHankins Thanks! Claire’s home town in SUGAR AND ICE is based loosely on small maple-producing town of Chazy, NY. #kidlitchat
1:16 am j_ro333: But I also agree w/ @gregpincus – setting is another character and should be used that way when applicable. #kidlitchat
1:16 am cherylherbsman: I think setting is crucial to making it feel like the story could be real. Doesn’t need to be through long descriptions. #kidlitchat
1:16 am angie_frazier: Setting is difficult to write. I see it so well in my mind & the challenge is to convey it exactly how I see it w/o overwriting. #kidlitchat
1:16 am jenfos: RT @adamselzer: Not to say isnt important in most books, but you cant count on all readers to be GOOD readers. Gotta be sneaky! #kidlitchat
1:16 am susanjsteward: An mentor had me think of setting as dressing a stage for my characters. I’m a theater person so that worked. #kidlitchat
1:17 am JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Make it part of the action–character interacts with the setting. #kidlitchat
1:17 am HC_Palmquist: I have found the best way to care for setting is to utilize sensory detail and show the surroundings as experienced by the MC. #kidlitchat
1:17 am KatGirl_Studio: @lisabrowndraws you can have the environment interacting with the character like the weather, smells or sounds. #kidlitchat
1:17 am mrswritebrain: Who wouldn’t want to live on Prince Edward Island? LMM was the master of setting, IMO. #kidlitchat
1:17 am growupwithbooks: Luv this! <RT @JenniferTrafton Flannery O’Connor said it takes three senses to make a place real. #kidlitchat
1:17 am lisabrowndraws: In PB or graphic novel it’s color choice, line quality…RT @lisabrowndraws: So how to elicit setting w/out description? Ideas? #kidlitchat
1:17 am kellyhashway: @PeterMcL Nothing should be “forced” into the story because it will feel like just that–forced in. #kidlitchat
1:17 am 2KoP: RT @JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Make it part of the action–character interacts with the setting. #kidlitchat
1:17 am JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Also dialogue, speech patterns. #kidlitchat
1:17 am cherylherbsman: RT @JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Make it part of the action–character interacts with the setting. #kidlitchat
1:17 am MichelleDEvans: hi… just jumping in… what’s the topic? #kidlitchat
1:17 am TheAsianAngel: Setting: Prison. Advantages: Rioting prisoners to create noise distraction, shady guards who can be bribed, etc #kidlitchat
1:17 am ReadingVacation: @adamselzer My little brother will skim over a description if it’s too long. #kidlitchat
1:17 am peg366: Good idea. RT @JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Make it part of the action–character interacts with the setting. #kidlitchat
1:17 am KateMessner: Setting descriptions need to be through your character’s eyes rather than your own. #kidlitchat
1:17 am j_ro333: You do have to give setting details – but keep them brief. Too specific bogs down readers and they can’t make it their own. #kidlitchat
1:17 am jenfos: I still like the post it with the senses. Particularly SMELL IT. That could go over big with the right audience #kidlitchat
1:18 am pippinmathur: RT @lisabrowndraws: In PB or graphic novel it’s color choice, line quality…RT @lisabrowndraws: So how to elicit setting w/out description? Ideas? #kidlitchat
1:18 am hpinski: Me too! RT @ReadingVacation: @adamselzer My little brother will skim over a description if its too long. #kidlitchat
1:18 am lisagailgreen: Setting can be a great tool for pushing story forward and showing character traits if you use it right #kidlitchat
1:18 am lisa_schroeder: Forget long descriptions – show us through the characters, details of their life and those around them. Little goes long way. #kidlitchat
1:18 am gregpincus: RT @KateMessner: Setting descriptions need to be through your character’s eyes rather than your own. #kidlitchat
1:18 am lisabrowndraws: Yes, def. dialogue. If it doesn’t get too expository. RT @JennRHubbard: @lisabrowndraws Also dialogue, speech patterns. #kidlitchat
1:18 am mrswritebrain: @susanjsteward My problem with being a theater person is getting the setting from the stage (brain) to the page! #kidlitchat
1:18 am MirandaKennealy: @ReadingVacation I think we all will skip over a description if it’s too long. :) #kidlitchat
1:18 am EgmontUSA: @mrswritebrain I can’t help but agree with you. When I went to PEI, it was like I was in one of the Anne books. #kidlitchat
1:18 am jenfos: Gotta jump off for a bit – how long does this shindig last? #kidlitchat
1:18 am growupwithbooks: @KateMessner Good point! So you must truly know your characters in order to see through their eyes! #kidlitchat
1:18 am JennRHubbard: RT @KateMessner: Setting descriptions need to be through your character’s eyes rather than your own. #kidlitchat
1:18 am cherylherbsman: 5 senses are important, but great if you can weave them into the action #kidlitchat
1:19 am RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat
1:19 am hrootchat: Setting is a great place to remember readers WANT to do some of the work. Leave room for imagination. #kidlitchat
1:19 am deegarretson: @KateMessner exactly-to maintain the voice of your characters, you need to describe how they would see a setting. #kidlitchat
1:19 am jenfos: RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, its slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. #kidlitchat
1:19 am 2KoP: Specific, brief, sensory-oriented setting details draw the reader in quickly to MC’s world. #kidlitchat
1:19 am JennRHubbard: RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat
1:19 am KateMessner: Yes! RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. #kidlitchat
1:19 am PeterMcL: @lisabrowndraws Do it in passing, ideally in action. Eg, ‘X bashed the panelled wall’, instead of ‘The wall was panelled’ #kidlitchat
1:19 am cherylherbsman: @RebeccAgent yes, and also community, how people interact with one another can also be part of setting #kidlitchat
1:19 am delzey: @KateMessner and sometimes characters don’t notice settings (not to be a pain…) #kidlitchat
1:20 am hpinski: RT @hrootchat: Setting is a great place to remember readers WANT to do some of the work. Leave room for imagination. #kidlitchat
1:20 am JenniferTrafton: @EgmontUSA @mrswritebrain Agreed! The setting of PEI is half the appeal (the other half being Gilbert). #kidlitchat
1:20 am Gwenda: RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat
1:20 am pippinmathur: RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat
1:20 am angie_frazier: Setting is more than what a character sees. It’s what they hear, taste, smell, etc. That’s what I love about creating setting. #kidlitchat
1:20 am susanjsteward: @mrswritebrain I think she meant I wrote good dialogue, but it was like 2 people on an empty stage. #kidlitchat
1:20 am ReadingVacation: @j_ro333 EXACTLY! I like to imagine some of it on my own. The reason I like books better than movies. #kidlitchat
1:20 am lisagailgreen: RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat
1:20 am lisa_schroeder: These authors all do a great job with setting – @KateMessner, @cherylherbsman, @JennRHubbard!! #kidlitchat
1:20 am jenfos: RT @hrootchat: Setting is a great place to remember readers WANT to do some of the work. Leave room for imagination. #kidlitchat
1:20 am mrswritebrain: Lucky!! RT @EgmontUSA: I can’t help but agree with you. When I went to PEI, it was like I was in one of the Anne books. #kidlitchat
1:20 am pippinmathur: RT @PeterMcL: @lisabrowndraws Do it in passing, ideally in action. Eg, ‘X bashed the panelled wall’, instead of ‘The wall was panelled’ #kidlitchat
1:20 am hrootchat: See lots of mss that are trying so hard to spell it all out & be sure I see it right. Amazing how much more vivid it is w/o. #kidlitchat
1:20 am Becky_Levine: I’m back. LOVED doing setting in my kids’ mystery set in Santa Cruz. Struggling with learning how to do it with historical YA. #kidlitchat
1:20 am PattyJMurphy: Thanx!@MyraMcEntire RT @PattyJMurphy: Have post-it w/SEE,HEAR,TASTE, TOUCH,SMELLby comp.Reminds to use senses as vehicles to… #kidlitchat
1:20 am KateMessner: “Getting the rich details of the setting right” is my favorite excuse to travel. :-) #kidlitchat
1:21 am bonnieadamson: @KateMessner And characters are a product of their setting–that’s why “stranger in town” stories work so well. #kidlitchat
1:21 am EgmontUSA: @JenniferTrafton But of course. #kidlitchat
1:21 am delzey: true RT @RebeccAgent: Setting not just description of place, its slang , food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat
1:21 am Becky_Levine: @ReadingVacation I’m with your little brother! #kidlitchat
1:21 am cherylherbsman: @lisa_schroeder thanks, Lisa :) #kidlitchat
1:21 am susanjsteward: @mrswritebrain … and then choosing some of the details/images of that set to work in was enough to improve the setting, 2 her. #kidlitchat
1:21 am KateMessner: @lisa_schroeder Aw, thanks! #kidlitchat
1:21 am TheAsianAngel: Setting will also reveal more about character. How does your character fit into the setting? The more akward the better #kidlitchat
1:21 am MyraMcEntire: I write the setting as I see it – with too much detail – and then cut 3/4′s of it. *snip snip* #kidlitchat
1:21 am PattyJMurphy: RT @hrootchat: Setting is a great place to remember readers WANT to do some of the work. Leave room for imagination. <<So true! #kidlitchat
1:21 am yachicka: waiting to watch glee with the hubster and thought i’d check in – what’s the topic? #kidlitchat
1:21 am kellyhashway: No two readers will see the setting the same way, no matter how well you describe it. Better to leave some to the imagination. #kidlitchat
1:22 am ImFreckles: RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat
1:22 am lisagailgreen: Setting can also be as fun and integral as the characters – think Hogwarts for example #kidlitchat
1:22 am peg366: Sounds good to meRT @MyraMcEntire: I write the setting as I see it – with too much detail – and then cut 3/4s of it. *snip snip* #kidlitchat
1:22 am HC_Palmquist: @MyraMcEntire That’s so interesting because I tend to be too sparse and have to go back and add in. Can I borrow some of yours? #kidlitchat
1:22 am MirandaKennealy: @MyraMcEntire That’s interesting – I always have to go in and add setting descriptions later. #kidlitchat
1:22 am ImFreckles: @RebeccAgent thanks for the words about setting. that is what I am struggling with in my writting. #kidlitchat
1:22 am delzey: RT @kellyhashway: No 2 readers see setting the same way, no matter how well described. Better to leave some to the imagination. #kidlitchat
1:23 am LeahPetersen: Me too, so girl thing. RT @petermcl: As a kid, I used to hate desc of setting. I didn’t care about the paint. Maybe a boy thing. #kidlitchat
1:23 am lisagailgreen: @kellyhashway just like no 2 characters will experience your setting in the same way #kidlitchat
1:23 am Becky_Levine: Setting is the world. RT @RebeccAgent: Setting not just description of place, it’s slang, food, values, demographics. #kidlitchat
1:23 am hpinski: Me too!RT @HC_Palmquist: @MyraMcEntire Thats so interesting because I tend to be too sparse and have to go back and add in. #kidlitchat
1:23 am bonnieadamson: @yachicka TOPIC: Setting as character. #kidlitchat
1:23 am susanjsteward: @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? For me, Camazotz from A Wrinkle In Time. #kidlitchat
1:23 am RebeccAgent: also I have to say, I love comtemp novels for MG or YA not set on East Coast or in CA, being Midwesterner myself #kidlitchat
1:23 am PattyJMurphy: @gregpincus: I think setting has to do w/character’s state of mind, mood, personality, values, and what they ate for breakfast:) #kidlitchat
1:23 am PeterMcL: I write a full desc of setting in a profile, then only use what a char would NOTICE, or what plot needs. #kidlitchat
1:23 am kellyhashway: @lisagailgreen exactly and that can only make the story better. #kidlitchat
1:24 am Becky_Levine: @MirandaKennealy If I’m writing about a very specific place, I’ll write the scene, go TO the place & then fill in details. #kidlitchat
1:24 am KateMessner: Fun writing prompt: Make separate lists of characters, plot ideas, settings, genres. Then mix & match! #kidlitchat
1:24 am HC_Palmquist: @MirandaKennealy JINX!!! You owe me a Coke. LOL I just said pretty much the same thing to @MyraMcEntire #kidlitchat
1:24 am 2KoP: Is level of setting description dependent upon age-range of readers? #kidlitchat
1:24 am WriterRoss: @bonnieadamson Thanks, Bonnie. Could not get computer to connect to internet for 15 minutes. #@!& #kidlitchat
1:24 am hpinski: The Shire. RT @susanjsteward: @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? #kidlitchat
1:24 am MyraMcEntire: @HC_Palmquist I have to add in *FEELINGS*. So we can trade? #kidlitchat
1:24 am cjomololu: Can you write realistic settings if you don’t know them? I tried to write a book where it snowed and I couldn’t do it. #kidlitchat
1:24 am delzey: @RebeccAgent but if i write what i know, i can only write @ CA or new england! ;) #kidlitchat
1:24 am PromptWriter: RT @KateMessner: Fun writing prompt: Make separate lists of characters, plot ideas, settings, genres. Then mix & match! #kidlitchat
1:24 am cherylherbsman: setting can also help set the tone of the story — the pace of the place, the presence of nature or not, etc #kidlitchat
1:24 am deegarretson: Character voice-great line in The Dragon Heir-”Fog clung to Booker Mountain like an old ragged coat.” poor child seeing setting #kidlitchat
1:24 am 2KoP: RT @PeterMcL: I write a full desc of setting in a profile, then use what char would NOTICE or what plot needs. #kidlitchat
1:25 am cherylherbsman: @cjomololu have you never seen it snow? #kidlitchat
1:25 am KatGirl_Studio: @RebeccAgent funny, i have only read two books set in CA and one of them was an adult book #kidlitchat
1:25 am HC_Palmquist: @MyraMcEntire YES! I’m good with feelings. lol #kidlitchat
1:25 am KateMessner: @cjomololu I’ve never been IN a tornado but I’m writing about them now. Lots of research, interviews & videos. #kidlitchat
1:25 am MirandaKennealy: @Becky_Levine Do you have a private jet or something? If so, I’d like to borrow it to go write setting descriptions. #kidlitchat
1:25 am EgmontUSA: If I’m reading your ms and constantly getting jarred out of your world because of exposition on setting, something’s wrong. . . #kidlitchat
1:25 am KatGirl_Studio: @RebeccAgent all of them seem to be set in east coast or midwest #kidlitchat
1:25 am MyraMcEntire: @MirandaKennealy Yes – I have to see it to write it, but I have to know what they say to each other before I know how they FEEL. #kidlitchat
1:25 am ReadingVacation: Authors – are your settings ever based on real places you have been to or is it all made up? #kidlitchat
1:25 am susanjsteward: @hpinski Good one! Wish I could live there. In the non-Sharkey years. #kidlitchat
1:25 am jenfos: @delzey – is this why most new tv shows (at least ones that catch my interest) seem to happen in Northern Cal – i.e. Parenthood #kidlitchat
1:25 am cjomololu: @cherylherbsman I’ve seen it, but I’ve never lived there. Too many details I didn’t know about. #kidlitchat
1:25 am peg366: @2KoP I definitely think age range is something that effects what setting desription is needed. #kidlitchat
1:25 am PeterMcL: @2KoP oooo, my first ever retweet! I must be getting the hang of this! :) #kidlitchat
1:25 am mrswritebrain: Great ideaRT @PeterMcL: I write a full desc of setting in a profile, then only use what a char would NOTICE, or what plot needs. #kidlitchat
1:25 am emilytastic: @cjomololu I had a hard time when I set a book in Cali. Where I’m from, it’s FREEZING in late Dec. Had to keep checking myself. #kidlitchat
1:25 am deegarretson: @lisagailgreen it’s hard to imagine Harry Potter without detailed description of Hogwarts. so fascinating #kidlitchat
1:26 am ImFreckles: thanks RT @KateMessner Fun writing prompt: Make separate lists of characters, plot ideas, settings, genres. Then mix & match! #kidlitchat
1:26 am EgmontUSA: . . . It should be natural, enhancing the experince of your story. #kidlitchat
1:26 am lisagailgreen: Good one! RT @hpinski: The Shire. RT @susanjsteward: @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? #kidlitchat
1:26 am adamselzer: Whoever first said “write what you know” strikes me as one lazy fellow. Make stuff up! Research if you have to! #kidlitchat
1:26 am cjomololu: Of course, Google Streetview does make things easier now. #kidlitchat
1:26 am cherylherbsman: @cjomololu yes, for me the issue w/setting you don’t know is that you don’t know what you’re getting wrong #kidlitchat
1:26 am MirandaKennealy: @ReadingVacation Both – I like to make up fake businesses with funky names, but I like to set them in actual locations. #kidlitchat
1:26 am SMozer: RT @KateMessner: Fun writing prompt: Make separate lists of characters, plot ideas, settings, genres. Then mix & match! #kidlitchat
1:26 am kristibernard: RT @gregpincus: RT @KateMessner: Setting descriptions need to be through your character’s eyes rather than your own. #kidlitchat
1:26 am lisa_schroeder: @cjomololu Ha – one of my books the characters are trapped in a blizzard. It was hard, imagining what that’d be like. #kidlitchat
1:26 am RebeccAgent: ok all if you have recs for books sent in midwest (other than Dairy Queen), send em to me #kidlitchat
1:26 am 2KoP: @cjomololu Sci-fi/fantasy writers write completely imagined setting all the time. #kidlitchat
1:26 am susanjsteward: @MirandaKennealy Sometimes I Google images of the place and just sit there and stare and stare. Writers are so nutty! #kidlitchat
1:26 am HC_Palmquist: @MyraMcEntire I feel what they are feeling based on the situation & that dictates the dialogue and the setting to me. #kidlitchat
1:26 am lisagailgreen: @hpinski @susanjsteward how about the arena in Hunger Games? Not as pleasant but integral to the story #kidlitchat
1:26 am cjomololu: @emilytastic Funny. Someone told me about trying to start their frozen car and I realized I was out of my element. #kidlitchat
1:26 am Becky_Levine: oops–hashtag! @MirandaKennealy That’s the prob! Santa Cruz is 20 minutes away. 1913 Chicago is EONS away, time AND distance! #kidlitchat
1:26 am pippinmathur: @KateMessner tip for accurate tornado writing: the color and stillness that procedes it. :) #kidlitchat
1:27 am KatGirl_Studio: @ReadingVacation both one of my stories is set in SF where I went to school the other is completely made up down to the animals #kidlitchat
1:27 am shimes06: RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat
1:27 am bonnieadamson: @ReadingVacation Sometimes room/house descriptions are from memory–not so much larger landscapes. #kidlitchat
1:27 am cjomololu: @cherylherbsman Exactly. #kidlitchat
1:27 am jenfos: @cjomololu I was just thinking about Google Earth and street maps. Do you think writers more likely to use these types of tools #kidlitchat
1:27 am JennRHubbard: @Becky_Levine Yes, setting is TIME, too–present day, past, or future. #kidlitchat
1:27 am adamselzer: @RebeccAgent almost all of mine are set in Cornersville Trace, IA, a fake suburb of Des Moines. #kidlitchat
1:27 am cjomololu: @2KoP But nobody is going to tell them they got it wrong ;) #kidlitchat
1:27 am lisagailgreen: @deegarretson exactly! That was setting done right. #kidlitchat
1:27 am kristibernard: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: Is the setting of your book like a character? What tips/ideas do you have about the importance of setting in your work? #kidlitchat
1:27 am EgmontUSA: @RebeccAgent We’ll have one next summer ;) #kidlitchat
1:27 am malindalo: I think it’s interesting how many of you are remembering fantasy settings like Hogwarts, the Shire. That’s good worldbuilding! #kidlitchat
1:27 am emilytastic: @cjomololu I’m hoping I can get away with my character getting frostbite during a flood. I think it’s a stretch for San Jose. #kidlitchat
1:27 am delzey: RT @adamselzer: Whoever first said “write what you know” strikes me as one lazy fellow. Make stuff up! #kidlitchat
1:27 am RebeccAgent: great job of setting as integral to the story? THE STORM IN THE BARN by Matt Phelan! #kidlitchat
1:28 am hpinski: Strangely, I could never fully picture it. RT @lisagailgreen: @hpinski @susanjsteward how about the arena in Hunger Games? #kidlitchat
1:28 am MyraMcEntire: @HC_Palmquist Sometimes that happens, but mostly I just let ‘em talk in that cracktastic way they have. Wish setting did that! #kidlitchat
1:28 am DDHearn: I think Camp Half-Blood in the Percy Jackson series is a well described setting that helps tell the story. #kidlitchat
1:28 am HC_Palmquist: My setting is all based on research & imagination since my MC winds up time traveling. #kidlitchat
1:28 am JennRHubbard: @cjomololu That’s the tricky part–things we take for granted about our own settings! #kidlitchat
1:28 am j_ro333: RT @kellyhashway: No 2 readers will see setting same way, no matter how well you describe it. Better 2 leave some 2 imagination. #kidlitchat
1:28 am lisabrowndraws: Prince Ed Island — from Green Gables RT @susanjsteward: @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? #kidlitchat
1:28 am JenniferTrafton: @malindalo And Narnia! #kidlitchat
1:28 am cjomololu: @jenfos I use Google streetview all the time. Helps if I can’t remember details about a city/town. #kidlitchat
1:28 am BookEditorLM: RT @RebeccAgent: Setting is not just description of place, it’s slang characters use, food they eat, values, demographics. So many things #kidlitchat
1:28 am KatGirl_Studio: @jenfos I do, “drove around” cities in google maps and picked building to base the ones in my story on. #kidlitchat
1:28 am lisagailgreen: Ugh have to go make dinner as usual. But it’s been fun thank you! #kidlitchat
1:28 am MyraMcEntire: @HC_Palmquist *sigh* I meant feelings. #kidlitchat
1:28 am jenfos: RT @adamselzer: Whoever first said “write what you know” strikes me as one lazy fellow. Make stuff up! Research if you have to! #kidlitchat
1:28 am cjomololu: @emilytastic You are braver than I am. I’m sure you can. #kidlitchat
1:28 am PeterMcL: We have to write chars we’ve never been (or maybe never met). Same deal with settings. #kidlitchat
1:28 am HC_Palmquist: @MyraMcEntire I can’t WAIT to read Hourglass. #kidlitchat
1:28 am peg366: Agreed. RT @DDHearn: I think Camp Half-Blood in the Percy Jackson series is a well described setting that helps tell the story. #kidlitchat
1:28 am DDHearn: Do you think setting description is more important in fantasy, where it would be unfamiliar to reader? #kidlitchat
1:28 am deegarretson: @ReadingVacation Mine is set at Camp David, so I used what real facts I could find, then made up others to work with the plot #kidlitchat
1:29 am 2KoP: @PeterMcL Congrats. Happy to provide the RT. #kidlitchat
1:29 am bonnieadamson: @jenfos Stree maps are creepy–have you ever Googled your own? We have a mystery pickup in the driveway. #kidlitchat
1:29 am cvaldezmiller: This makes me happy RT @RebeccAgent I love comtemp novels for MG or YA not set on East Coast or in CA, being Midwesterner myself #kidlitchat
1:29 am Becky_Levine: @lisa_schroeder @cjomolou I’m wrtg about Chicago winter. Born & raised in California. QUITE the challenge! #kidlitchat
1:29 am cjomololu: @JennRHubbard For me anyway. Limits where I can set books. #kidlitchat
1:29 am j_ro333: @ReadingVacation I write both. But I prefer making it all up. God complex. :) #kidlitchat
1:29 am ThePrude: @gregtrine just click on this tag #kidlitchat and it will take you to the session (if you’re using tweetdeck at least)not sure otherwise
1:29 am lisabrowndraws: Or that strange world from A Wrinkle in TIme RT @lisagailgreen Can you think of other settings that stayed with you? #kidlitchat
1:29 am MindyRuiz: RT @MyraMcEntire: I write the setting as I see it – with too much detail – and then cut 3/4′s of it. *snip snip* #kidlitchat
1:29 am HC_Palmquist: @MyraMcEntire It’s okay. I feel ya! ;) #kidlitchat
1:29 am lindsayeland: One of the big things I’ve learned about setting is that it should always reveal character. #kidlitchat
1:29 am jimhill: Perfect example! RT @RebeccAgent great job of setting as integral to the story? THE STORM IN THE BARN by Matt Phelan #kidlitchat
1:29 am jenfos: @KatGirl_Studio -I also do geneology and when i find English/Scottish roots I go look around. I know different time, still cool #kidlitchat
1:29 am delzey: i read “chairs we’ve never seen” RT @PeterMcL: We have to write chars we’ve never been (or maybe never met). #kidlitchat
1:29 am KateMessner: I make maps & drawings of my made-up towns/neighborhoods to make sure things stay consistent in the book. #kidlitchat
1:29 am Becky_Levine: When I was writing about Santa Cruz, from-Long-Island crit partner told me she didn’t know what a banana slug looked like! #kidlitchat
1:29 am DDHearn: The graveyard in The Graveyard Book was a wonderfully described setting to me. #kidlitchat
1:29 am 2KoP: @cjomololu True, so you must create enough of a fictional world w/i real world to make it work. #kidlitchat
1:30 am hpinski: I could never fully picture the arena in The Hunger Games, but I could feel the horror of it, so it worked for me big time. #kidlitchat
1:30 am cherylherbsman: @PeterMcL the difference is that they are made up people. If setting is real people who know the place will see where u missed #kidlitchat
1:30 am JennRHubbard: Some settings I remember: The moon in FEED. Miss Havisham’s room. The weather in SPEAK and LIFE AS WE KNEW IT. #kidlitchat
1:30 am lisabrowndraws: Time to go to Tahoe. @cjomolou I’m wrtg about Chicago winter. Born & raised in California. QUITE the challenge! #kidlitchat
1:30 am jenfos: @bonnieadamson Sounds like a story in of itself, though maybe not #kidlitchat
1:30 am bonnieadamson: @DDHearn And it was NOTHING like I imagined, in the movie–one of the things that struck a sour note. #kidlitchat
1:30 am pippinmathur: Setting that stayed with me-franklin books and toad and frog. Used them during labor as my happy place. #kidlitchat
1:30 am KatGirl_Studio: @Becky_Levine hhahahah that’s the best #kidlitchat
1:30 am EgmontUSA: @RebeccAgent For me, the setting of Winter Harbor was really integral to my connection w/ @triciarayburn‘s SIREN. #kidlitchat
1:30 am susanjsteward: I’m lucky enough to be living in an odd, colorful neighborhood that others find quaint. So my current setting is . . . here! #kidlitchat
1:30 am PattyJMurphy: @Rebeccagent: As you know, most of Blue Balliet’s books are set in Chicago, Richard Peck’s in Midwest. Love both:) #kidlitchat
1:30 am JenniferTrafton: @KateMessner I too am a manic map-drawer. #kidlitchat
1:30 am bonnieadamson: @jenfos Ha! That’s a thought. #kidlitchat
1:30 am PeterMcL: Commonplace settings need less desc, because chars wouldn’t notice anything novel. SF/fantasy often otherwise. #kidlitchat
1:30 am Becky_Levine: @JennRHubbard And ATTITUDE. :) #kidlitchat
1:30 am apoulson: RT @malindalo: I think it’s interesting how many of you are remembering fantasy settings like Hogwarts, the Shire. That’s good worldbuilding! #kidlitchat
1:30 am lisabrowndraws: Off to put kid to bed. Will try to come back… #kidlitchat
1:31 am WriterRoss: RT @JennRHubbard: Some settings I remember: The moon in FEED. Miss Havishams room. The weather in SPEAK and LIFE AS WE KNEW IT. #kidlitchat
1:31 am cjomololu: @lisabrowndraws Time to live in Tahoe for a season… #kidlitchat
1:31 am DDHearn: I think the Little House books had a wonderful sense of setting, so important to the story. #kidlitchat
1:31 am jimhill: @DDHearn I think so (more important in fantasy). Easier to put yourself into a contemporary viewpoint. Less so into Gondor. #kidlitchat
1:31 am apoulson: RT @malindalo: I feel like setting is v important to my writing. Place really informs the story. Especially in fantasy, interestingly! #kidlitchat
1:31 am 2KoP: The settings in Holes and the Harry Potter books seem to have painted perfect pictures. #kidlitchat
1:31 am RebeccAgent: @egmontusa yes, and I just read the sequel this weekend and indeed @triciarayburn is a master at setting! #kidlitchat
1:31 am cjomololu: Research does help. I’ve never actually been in a hoarded home that was as bad as my book, but I think it worked out. #kidlitchat
1:32 am bonnieadamson: Me, too. RT @KateMessner: I make maps & drawings of my made-up towns/neighborhoods #kidlitchat
1:32 am KatGirl_Studio: @KateMessner me too i make floor plans of most of the settings in my stories and maps #kidlitchat
1:32 am ThePrude: @KateMessner That’s a great idea, I never thought of doing that. #kidlitchat
1:32 am malindalo: @DDHearn I think fantasy settings are often more extreme, which lends itself to more description. Contemp settings less extreme. #kidlitchat
1:32 am 2KoP: @DDHearn The Little House series did seem heavily dependent on setting. #kidlitchat
1:32 am jenfos: Still love Summer of my German soldier – being Jewish girl in South – not fit in. Then add saving the German guy. So painful. #kidlitchat
1:32 am delzey: i think setting in fantasy and historical is a given. contemporary, not so much #kidlitchat
1:32 am cherylherbsman: @cjomololu it did :) #kidlitchat
1:32 am MirandaKennealy: @DDHearn Agreed! I can remember the Little House descriptions so well even though I haven’t looked at them in probably 15 years. #kidlitchat
1:32 am mrswritebrain: My book’s set in Harly, OK–a town so small “Okies say so can stand at one end and spit to the other.” It’s def. a char. #kidlitchat
1:32 am DDHearn: @kristibernard If the setting has some impact on the character then I think it stands out more…not just “background”. #kidlitchat
1:32 am RebeccAgent: one of my favorite books (and not even client’s book), ELSEWHERE by Gabrielle Zevin does amazing job of creating a world… #kidlitchat
1:32 am ReadingVacation: Reading Harry Potter book 1 out loud to my brother this month. I love how the setting is described. Come to LIFE. #kidlitchat
1:32 am malindalo: @cjomololu Still LOLing over your never having seen snow. No Tahoe? We need to take you to the winter! #kidlitchat
1:32 am WriterRoss: Characters that channel the setting –via speech, dress, action–make the place come to life for me. Example: SAVVY #kidlitchat
1:32 am Becky_Levine: @jennRHubbard BTW, I thought you did setting beautifully in The Secret Year. Especially in Colt & Julia’s time together. #kidlitchat
1:32 am PattyJMurphy: @gregpincus: Sometimes, setting is smack dab in the center of…a human heart like THE SKY IS EVERYWHERE. Loved it. #kidlitchat
1:33 am pippinmathur: @DDHearn me too, first graveyard I’ve found comforting and safe (with mysterious edges of course) #kidlitchat
1:33 am jenfos: BINGO – RT @delzey: i think setting in fantasy and historical is a given. contemporary, not so much -Well Said #kidlitchat
1:33 am hpinski: Setting for NEIL ARMSTRONG IS MY UNCLE was brilliantly done. Simple, but vivid. Not intrusive at all. #kidlitchat
1:33 am RebeccAgent: …one that no reader knew before but believes in completely while reading #kidlitchat
1:33 am adamselzer: London, the junk shop, Miss Flite’s apt, & the Dedlocke mansion in Bleak House. Todgers & NY in Martin Chuzzlewit #kidlitchat
1:33 am cherylherbsman: RT @WriterRoss: Characters that channel the setting –via speech, dress, action–make the place come to life for me. #kidlitchat
1:33 am MyraMcEntire: Ramona and Beezus’s house always felt familiar to me. I could settle into the books bc I could settle into the world. #kidlitchat
1:33 am cjomololu: @malindalo No, I’ve seen it, but I’ve never LIVED in it. Gone to work, school in it, etc. Big difference. But we can still go ;) #kidlitchat
1:33 am JennRHubbard: Other good uses of setting: SEASON OF ICE. Also HOLES. #kidlitchat
1:33 am Becky_Levine: @2KoP Diagon Alley is perhaps my favorite setting ever. I want to move there. #kidlitchat
1:34 am PattyJMurphy: RT @RebeccAgent: one of my favorite books ELSEWHERE by Gabrielle Zevin does amazing job <<<Loved it and her DIARY OF… #kidlitchat
1:34 am houndrat: I personally like setting that’s relevant, enough to get a feel for a place. But if there are pages and pages I’m skimming. #kidlitchat
1:34 am cjomololu: @cherylherbsman Thanks. Your book was v. vivid with setting-one of the best. #kidlitchat
1:34 am JenniferTrafton: @adamselzer Yes….Dickens is fantastic at this. His places have personality. #kidlitchat
1:34 am malindalo: I also love small-town & rural settings, like in DAIRY QUEEN by Catherine Gilbert Murdock. One of my faves. #kidlitchat
1:34 am RebeccAgent: I am not saying there are NO books set in Midwest, but not at all in proportion to population #kidlitchat
1:34 am jenfos: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? #kidlitchat
1:34 am JennRHubbard: @Becky_Levine Thank you! Colt would not be Colt without that river. #kidlitchat
1:34 am KatGirl_Studio: @Becky_Levine you can visit the theme park version =^.^= #kidlitchat
1:34 am cherylherbsman: @cjomololu thank you! #kidlitchat
1:34 am bonnieadamson: Oh–THE BOOK THIEF. I could find my way around Liesl’s house in the dark. #kidlitchat
1:34 am hpinski: YES!!! RT @jenfos: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? #kidlitchat
1:34 am Becky_Levine: @cjomololu It DID work out. That house in your book is seriously claustrophobic! #kidlitchat
1:35 am adamselzer: @JenniferTrafton I write, read, think and breathe better when I’m reading Dickens. So I do it a lot. :) #kidlitchat
1:35 am delzey: love setting in “charlie & chocolate factory” but when i went back to reread it discovered most was in my head #kidlitchat
1:35 am ReadingVacation: Everyone keeps mentioning Holes. I should read that, huh? #kidlitchat
1:35 am 2KoP: @MyraMcEntire To me, Ramona’s house was generic; it was the neighborhood that was vivid. #kidlitchat
1:35 am peg366: RT @jenfos: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? so true. yes! #kidlitchat
1:35 am DDHearn: a setting that stayed with me was the attic room in A Little Princess. #kidlitchat
1:35 am jenfos: @delzey Really – will have to go back. #kidlitchat
1:35 am cjomololu: @malindalo I set my first racially charged novel in my mother’s small Texas town. If it ever pubs she won’t forgive me. #kidlitchat
1:35 am 2KoP: @ReadingVacation Yep, read it. #kidlitchat
1:35 am Becky_Levine: Loved the setting in Sarah Beth Durst’s ICE. #kidlitchat
1:35 am jenfos: @ReadingVacation – Oh yes. #kidlitchat
1:35 am JenniferTrafton: @adamselzer Dickens is the bomb. #kidlitchat
1:35 am cjomololu: @Becky_Levine What a nice thing to say! ;) #kidlitchat
1:36 am MyraMcEntire: @2KoP A painted cat *is* pretty vivid. ;) #kidlitchat
1:36 am JennRHubbard: @ReadingVacation HOLES is brilliantly plotted as well. #kidlitchat
1:36 am delzey: @jenfos most of the images i had weren’t in the book – i added them! #kidlitchat
1:36 am malindalo: @cjomololu I grew up in Colorado. :) Have I told you how much I love living in California? #kidlitchat
1:36 am Becky_Levine: @KatGirl_Studio Not quite the same! Fell in love w/ Charing Cross Road in 84 Charing Cross Road, then got to go there. Heaven. #kidlitchat
1:36 am jenfos: @cjomololu – there’s always that danger #kidlitchat
1:36 am adamselzer: @JenniferTrafton Which one’s your favorite? #kidlitchat
1:36 am susanjsteward: How about the setting of The Giver? #kidlitchat
1:36 am theamyshow: Best book I’ve read in ten years. RT @BonnieAdamson: Oh–THE BOOK THIEF. I could find my way around Liesl’s house in the dark. #kidlitchat
1:36 am Becky_Levine: @JennRHubbard That river was perfect. And Julia’s stepping into that world…Lovely. #kidlitchat
1:36 am MirandaKennealy: I really liked the setting in Graceling and Fire. I think about it way too often, to be honest. #kidlitchat
1:36 am KatGirl_Studio: @adamselzer Dickens is so awesome we even have a historical fair featuring it here in CA #kidlitchat
1:36 am jenfos: @delzey – Doesn’t that show true genius writing? #kidlitchat
1:36 am bonnieadamson: @ReadingVacation Yes–great book. :-) #kidlitchat
1:36 am WriterRoss: When I think of an author that uses setting in a most integral fashion, I automatically think Steinbeck. #kidlitchat
1:37 am cjomololu: @malindalo Ha! Did not know that. If I ever write snow, I’m comin’ to you. #kidlitchat
1:37 am 2KoP: @RebeccAgent I’ve set my WIP in the midwest. Here’s hoping it fills a niche. #kidlitchat
1:37 am mrswritebrain: @MyraMcEntire Ditto. I always pictured Klickitat St. as my own! #kidlitchat
1:37 am DDHearn: @PeterMcL The trick in fantasy is that the characters wouldn’t think their setting is otherworldy. Describing it can be tricky. #kidlitchat
1:37 am jenfos: Another one to age myself – The Westing House Game and other Raskin…. #kidlitchat
1:37 am JenniferTrafton: @adamselzer David Copperfield. Betsey and her donkeys. #kidlitchat
1:37 am JennRHubbard: More examples of setting wisely used: TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD. THE WHITE DARKNESS. THE CATCHER IN THE RYE. #kidlitchat
1:37 am cjomololu: @KatGirl_Studio We do? Where? #kidlitchat
1:37 am 2KoP: @MyraMcEntire True that, painted cat. #kidlitchat
1:37 am delzey: @jenfos agreed. and speaks volumes about sparsity in setting #kidlitchat
1:37 am KarenninaPosa: joining #kidlitchat tonight. what’s the topic?
1:38 am bonnieadamson: @theamyshow Yes, really resisted reading it–thought it would be too harrowing . . .WAS! But genius. #kidlitchat
1:38 am PeterMcL: @DDHearn Good point; didn’t think of that! #kidlitchat
1:38 am KatGirl_Studio: @DDHearn unless the main character is from somewhere else then the world is still otherworldly #kidlitchat
1:38 am 2KoP: @Becky_Levine I want to live in Hagrid’s hut. #kidlitchat
1:38 am MichelleDEvans: @delzey or did you watch the charlie movie and have that setting in your head? #kidlitchat
1:38 am happybluejess: ISLAND OF THE BLUE DOLPHINS had a setting that really stuck with me. #kidlitchat
1:38 am delzey: agreed RT @WriterRoss: When I think of an author that uses setting in a most integral fashion, I automatically think Steinbeck. #kidlitchat
1:38 am adamselzer: @JenniferTrafton I’ve read that part out loud to people…and I used the pawnbroker as a gym teacher in one book. #kidlitchat
1:38 am hpinski: Fantasy world-building can be annoying. Build me a world but don’t let me realize you’re doing it. #kidlitchat
1:38 am bonnieadamson: @KarenninaPosa Setting as character. #kidlitchat
1:38 am cjomololu: I LOVED Muriel Spark in college. All of her books had the same “feel”-the setting as character. #kidlitchat
1:38 am jenfos: Can anyone think of picture books with setting this vibrant and memorable? #kidlitchat
1:38 am KateMessner: Ducking out early to get back to the WIP – but thanks, all, for the conversation! I loved the topic for tonight’s #kidlitchat
1:39 am KatGirl_Studio: @cjomololu http://www.dickensfair.com/ I have performed there for the last 7 years #kidlitchat
1:39 am Becky_Levine: I rarely want more than a paragraph of JUST setting description. I want something to be happening w/ that setting. #kidlitchat
1:39 am JennRHubbard: @WriterRoss Yes to Steinbeck! Although he uses a lot of long descriptive passages in some of his books. #kidlitchat
1:39 am jafhedlund: Joining late – looks like topic is setting? #kidlitchat
1:39 am peg366: The Wizard of OZ wouldn’t be the same in another setting. #kidlitchat
1:39 am PattyJMurphy: Both @kamigarcia + @mstohl paint a beautiful + magical world/setting in BEAUTIFUL CREATURES + BEAUTIFUL DARKNESS. *holding arc:) #kidlitchat
1:39 am JennRHubbard: RT @DDHearn: @PeterMcL The trick in fantasy is that the characters wouldn’t think their setting is otherworldy. Describing it can be tricky. #kidlitchat
1:39 am Becky_Levine: When I was little, I loved books with attics–those setting stick in my mind still. We don’t really do attics in California. #kidlitchat
1:39 am WriterRoss: Do contemporary novels and authors delve as deeply into setting? I think it’s there but in a far less obvious way. #kidlitchat
1:40 am carsonawaldrop: @ReadingVacation yea! It is such a good book, as well as a #Disney movie. #kidlitchat
1:40 am bonnieadamson: @jafhedlund Yes! Welcome. #kidlitchat
1:40 am mrswritebrain: DONKEYS!! LOL RT @JenniferTrafton: @adamselzer David Copperfield. Betsey and her donkeys. #kidlitchat
1:40 am KatGirl_Studio: @jenfos all the ones on my shelf =^.^= #kidlitchat
1:40 am hpinski: WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE RT @jenfos: Can anyone think of picture books with setting this vibrant and memorable? #kidlitchat
1:40 am 2KoP: @jenfos Some Dr. Seuss books have pretty vivid settings, but so much setting in PBs is in the illustrations. #kidlitchat
1:40 am jenfos: Oh. From the mixed up files of Mrs. Basil E……. #kidlitchat
1:40 am cjomololu: @KatGirl_Studio I live right across the bridge. Marking my calendar now-thanks! #kidlitchat
1:40 am peg366: me, too. RT @Becky_Levine: I rarely want more than a paragraph of JUST setting description. I want something to be happening… #kidlitchat
1:41 am JenniferTrafton: @peg366 Second only to Narnia, Oz was the setting of my imagination growing up. #kidlitchat
1:41 am kellyhashway: It’s great when a character goes to a new setting and the reader can discover it along with him/her. #kidlitchat
1:41 am JennRHubbard: @jenfos PB: ALL THE WORLD. #kidlitchat
1:41 am ReadingVacation: @jenfos Alphabet Mystery. One of my favorite picture books of all time. #kidlitchat
1:41 am RebeccAgent: of course setting not just place, but also TIME just as important when writing comtemp as historical must read authentically now #kidlitchat
1:41 am WriterRoss: @JennRHubbard Love reading his long passages but don’t think I could write them today (or would they end on cutting room floor?) #kidlitchat
1:41 am delzey: **crickets** #kidlitchat
1:41 am adamselzer: Now, you want a cat who spent a LONG time on describing setting, take Victor Hugo… #kidlitchat
1:41 am DDHearn: @KatGirl_Studio You’re right. It helps if a character in a fantasy story is from another place. He’ll be the reader’s eyes. #kidlitchat
1:41 am lisagailgreen: Ok I lied. I’m in and out… can’t tear myself away #kidlitchat
1:41 am Becky_Levine: @2KoP Okay, you have the hut. I’ll have Fortescue’s ice cream parlor! #kidlitchat
1:42 am KarenninaPosa: don’t understand fully how setting can be character so tonight’s #kidlitchat is great! looking forward to learning
1:42 am LauraRenegar: I love that book. RT @happybluejess: ISLAND OF THE BLUE DOLPHINS had a setting that really stuck with me. #kidlitchat
1:42 am lisagailgreen: The Lorax RT @jenfos: Can anyone think of picture books with setting this vibrant and memorable? #kidlitchat
1:42 am mrswritebrain: Me too-read it in 6th grade-still vivid RT @happybluejess: ISLAND OF THE BLUE DOLPHINS had a setting that really stuck with me. #kidlitchat
1:42 am kellyhashway: @peg366 The title would have to change, too! #kidlitchat
1:42 am delzey: @Becky_Levine or basements. #kidlitchat
1:42 am MyraMcEntire: Off to work on a new setting of my own! ;) Night all! #kidlitchat
1:42 am EgmontUSA: @hpinski Worldbuilding’s a problem when the writer doesn’t take out “the bible.” It’s the setup materiall, not the content. #kidlitchat
1:42 am mgbuehrlen: @KatGirl_Studio Thank, God. I do that too! And I’ve gotten flack for it too. I like my maps and floor plans! #kidlitchat
1:42 am DDHearn: @jenfos I think the difficulty with PBs is that the setting is usually described for us in the illustrations. Different feeling. #kidlitchat
1:43 am KatGirl_Studio: @Becky_Levine ya i don’t think I have ever been in an attic (I’m in CA too) #kidlitchat
1:43 am susanjsteward: @jenfos Trying to think. Van Allsburg–Polar Express? Um . . . The Snowy Day? #kidlitchat
1:43 am cherylherbsman: @WriterRoss I wouldn’t say it’s less deep, just less overt, fewer lengthy descriptions #kidlitchat
1:43 am jafhedlund: I loved all hideaways RT @Becky_Levine: When I was little, I loved books with attics–We dont really do attics in California. #kidlitchat
1:43 am JennRHubbard: @Becky_Levine Yes, I always wanted a book-type attic! We had a crawl space full of insulation. ;-( #kidlitchat
1:43 am ReadingVacation: RT @peg366: The Wizard of OZ wouldn’t be the same in another setting. #kidlitchat
1:43 am kellyhashway: It’s great when a character goes to a new setting and the reader can experience it with him/her. #kidlitchat
1:43 am cherylherbsman: @WriterRoss I wouldn’t say it’s less deep, just less overt, fewer lengthy descriptions. #kidlitchat
1:43 am KarenninaPosa: setting as character means it changes/develops? directly affected by plot? or participant in plot? #kidlitchat
1:43 am 2KoP: @jenfos So much of PB’s settings are done through illustration; Dr. Seuss. #kidlitchat
1:44 am happybluejess: @Becky_Levine For me, gardens really stuck in my mind. And big mansions. Like in THE SECRET GARDEN. #kidlitchat
1:44 am mgbuehrlen: ME TOO. >> RT @MyraMcEntire: I write the setting as I see it – with too much detail – and then cut 3/4′s of it. *snip snip* #kidlitchat
1:44 am KarenninaPosa: @BonnieAdamson thanks! great topic #kidlitchat
1:44 am joshferrin: #kidlitchat PB’s with great settings: Where the Wild Things Are, Knuffle Bunny, Calvin & Hobbes (not a PB, but I still got lost in C&H world
1:44 am jafhedlund: Has anyone mentioned the Narnia Chronicles yet? There’s a setting that worked. #kidlitchat
1:44 am 2KoP: @Becky_Levine deal. #kidlitchat
1:45 am PetaAndersen: @WriterRoss #kidlitchat Contemporary as in setting or author? When You Reach Me has a very strong setting; it’s almost a character.
1:45 am happybluejess: @JennRHubbard Love the aerial view of the ocean in that one! #kidlitchat
1:45 am peg366: @JenniferTrafton I love Narnia, too. #kidlitchat
1:45 am EgmontUSA: @hpinski Worldbuilding’s a problem when the writer doesn’t take out “the bible.” It’s the setup material, not the content. #kidlitchat
1:45 am delzey: @Becky_Levine or basements. #kidlitchat
1:46 am jafhedlund: Agree that setting in PBs are mostly in illos – unless the story is about the setting itself *racks brains for example* #kidlitchat
1:46 am delzey: did we break twitter? #kidlitchat
1:46 am 2KoP: RT @kellyhashway: It’s great when a character goes to a new setting and reader can discover it along with him/her.#kidlitchat
1:46 am JennRHubbard: @WriterRoss I think the styles have changed, so I’d say the rule is no more long descriptions–but every rule has exceptions #kidlitchat
1:46 am jafhedlund: Got one! Goodnight Moon. I’d say she set the setting pretty well in that one. :-) #kidlitchat
1:46 am katydidcamp: RT @2KoP: RT @PeterMcL: I write a full desc of setting in a profile, then use what char would NOTICE or what plot needs. #kidlitchat
1:46 am RebeccAgent: somethings up with twitter. Might be my cue to say goodnight #kidlitchat
1:47 am SheviStories: Sorry I’m so very late. What’s tonight’s topic? #kidlitchat
1:47 am jenfos: @KatGirl_Studio You are right. I guess it isn’t really a good question for PB. Because of the art is is memorable #kidlitchat
1:47 am 2KoP: RT @RebeccAgent: of course setting not just place, but also TIME <<<True. #kidlitchat
1:48 am DDHearn: @jenfos I think the difficulty with PBs is that the setting is usually described for us in the illustrations.Different feeling. #kidlitchat
1:48 am peg366: Tweetchat is down #kidlitchat
1:48 am jafhedlund: Got one! Goodnight Moon. She made the setting the story. #kidlitchat
1:48 am Becky_Levine: @delzey Exactly! Well, we have one, but the house was built in 1929 on a hill, so we call it the closed-in area, or the dungeon! #kidlitchat
1:48 am susanjsteward: New question, kidlitchatters! Do you set things where you *are*, have been, or where you’d *like* to be? #kidlitchat
1:48 am peg366: Yep. RT @kellyhashway: @peg366 The title would have to change, too! #kidlitchat
1:48 am WriterRoss: RT @JennRHubbard: @jenfos PB: ALL THE WORLD. Yes yes yes. A contemporary picture book that -reeks- of old-fashioned place. #kidlitchat
1:48 am Becky_Levine: @happybluejess Secret Garden-oh, yeah. And wild animals. :) #kidlitchat
1:49 am Becky_Levine: @MirandaKennealy I am, and wishing every day that it wasn’t QUITE so long ago, and I could TALK to people about it! #kidlitchat
1:49 am PeterMcL: @KarenninaPosa Setting is a character when it takes an *active* role in the plot(?). #kidlitchat
1:49 am ReadingVacation: Yes, TIME is important. Sometimes it is hard for me to tell WHEN a story took place. #kidlitchat
1:49 am Tiare75: @Becky_Levine I’ve always hated that we don’t do attics in CA. Or basements, unless in the Bay Area. #kidlitchat
1:49 am jenfos: @lisagailgreen Lorax is one of my favorites. First book I bought with my own money (along with a pair of plastic high heels). #kidlitchat
1:49 am happybluejess: THE STORY OF FERDINAND RT @jenfos: Can anyone think of picture books with setting this vibrant and memorable? #kidlitchat
1:49 am gregpincus: Ahh, Twitter fail just when I was circling back to #kidlitchat
1:49 am jafhedlund: Sorry for the multiples of tweets. Tweetchat keeps telling me they fail, but then they show up #kidlitchat
1:49 am Becky_Levine: @JennRHubbard Crawl spaces leave no room for the imagination. #kidlitchat
1:49 am PattyJMurphy: RT @MyraMcEntire: Off to work on a new setting of my own! ;) Night all! <<–Me, too. See you later kidlitchatters:) #kidlitchat
1:49 am Becky_Levine: @KatGirl_Studio Me, either! I am going to have to hunt down an attic some day. #kidlitchat
1:50 am jenfos: @DDHearn I think you are right. I just can’t think of one that resonates as much as the middle grade stuff. Is it me? #kidlitchat
1:50 am mrswritebrain: I always wanted to live with the March family. That house is so real and comforting. #kidlitchat
1:50 am SheviStories: Sorry I’m so very late. What’s the topic? What did I miss? (TweetChat is down, it seems.) #kidlitchat
1:50 am Tiare75: @RebeccAgent I don’t come across many books set here in CA, either. Well, YA maybe, but not MG. #kidlitchat
1:50 am Becky_Levine: @Tiare75 Basements don’t seem as “romantic.” All the ones I’ve seen are just turned into playrooms! #kidlitchat
1:50 am KatGirl_Studio: @mgbuehrlen flack why? #kidlitchat
1:50 am bonnieadamson: @KarenninaPosa Good post here on setting as character in dystopian novels: http://bit.ly/9tcwy1 #kidlitchat
1:50 am deegarretson: The Secret Garden setting – I still want a secret garden of my own even after all these years #kidlitchat
1:50 am adamselzer: I always wanted an elevator operator. #kidlitchat
1:50 am JenniferTrafton: @Becky_Levine Did you ever read BEHIND THE ATTIC WALL? #kidlitchat
1:51 am EgmontGal: Wow, I finally got on! Twitter is crazy today. Hi. #kidlitchat
1:51 am kellyhashway: Sorry for the duplicate posts. Tweetchat isn’t being nice to me right now. #kidlitchat
1:51 am WriterRoss: I am in an incredible time-delayed universe here. (Hah. My first foray into SF.) Logging out to try to catch up to Real Life. #kidlitchat
1:51 am Becky_Levine: Setting in a picture book–Jim Averbeck’s In a Blue Room. Definitely layered by the illustrations, but in the text, too. #kidlitchat
1:51 am mrswritebrain: @camarshall Has a great blog post about using google maps for setting research. http://bit.ly/dc8hxd #kidlitchat
1:52 am 2KoP: Scary settings in kidlit: Iqbal; They Cage the Animals at Night; Coraline; The Breadwinner #kidlitchat
1:52 am Becky_Levine: @JenniferTrafton THE ATTIC WALL-I haven’t read. Guessing I should? How about MAGIC ELIZABETH? #kidlitchat
1:52 am EgmontUSA: @JennRHubbard @Becky_Levine Books made me want to move into my attic. It was the mission that never quite happened. #kidlitchat
1:52 am SheviStories: Sorry I’m so very late. What’s the topic? What did I miss? #kidlitchat
1:52 am PetaAndersen: @DDHearn @jenfos #kidlitchat Miss Rumphius uses setting very well. So do to the Janelle Canon books–Verdi, Stellaluna &c, I think.
1:52 am EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent Hi Rebecca, saw our pal Anthony tonight and debated Harry Potter v. Philip Pullman. And Punkzilla, Metal Children. #kidlitchat
1:52 am 2KoP: Ooh, great settings in The Secret Garden & The Little Princess. #kidlitchat
1:52 am Becky_Levine: @MirandaKennealy @libbabray writing re 1913 Chicago. Ack! Oh, well, prob different story! I can’t even THINK re competing there. #kidlitchat
1:53 am jenfos: @2KoP I agree – they are more integrated and remembered in the pictures. Not built in our minds with the prose. That’s the dif #kidlitchat
1:53 am jimhill: I’m a sucker for a well described meal. Maybe that’s place setting. #kidlitchat
1:53 am Becky_Levine: @EgmontUSA @JennRHubbard And Secret Garden made me want to garden. Also never happened! #kidlitchat
1:53 am delzey: is there a PB with a great setting that isn’t visual? #kidlitchat
1:53 am peg366: In pbs the setting you as a writer envision might not be the same as the one envisioned by the illustrator. #kidlitchat
1:53 am EgmontGal: @adamselzer how about Thomas Hardy? Ton ‘o setting. Would like to see that in a YA novel (but we probably couldn’t sell it!) #kidlitchat
1:54 am happybluejess: Also the 100 Acre Wood in WINNIE THE POOH. The kids love looking at the detailed map in the front. #kidlitchat
1:54 am KatGirl_Studio: @JennRHubbard I had a crawl space door in my room at a kid but it had been painted shut and was 12 feet in the air #kidlitchat
1:54 am JohansenNewman: Me, too!! And the whole town. @BonnieAdamson Oh–THE BOOK THIEF. I could find my way around Liesl’s house in the dark. #kidlitchat
1:54 am PetaAndersen: @jafhedlund #kidlitchat I saw Narnia come up, but not LOTR or The Hobbit. Love the setting in The Hobbit.
1:54 am hpinski: Great topic, great chat! Night all. #kidlitchat
1:54 am adamselzer: Humbling to remember: write what ya will, most/many readers’ mental image will be based on the cover (if it’s that kinda cover) #kidlitchat
1:54 am JenniferTrafton: @jafhedlund Yes, we have several Narnians in this chat. Someday I will live there, by golly. #kidlitchat
1:54 am DDHearn: I can’t get through anymore on Tweetchat or Twitter. #kidlitchat
1:55 am jimhill: @jafhedlund Any fantasy that requires transportation to a new world requires it. Narnia, Oz, Hogwarts, Middle-Earth #kidlitchat
1:55 am mgbuehrlen: @KatGirl_Studio I had someone editing it and was excited to show her my map/etc and she was like, dude, keep it to yourself. #kidlitchat
1:55 am peg366: Huck Finn, Pippi Longstockings are two where the setting was important. #kidlitchat
1:55 am mgbuehrlen: @KatGirl_Studio I dunno. Just made me feel so small, like I was CRAZAY. #kidlitchat
1:55 am gregpincus: I am afraid my time is done – like the sun is setting, so to speak – for #kidlitchat tonight. Carry on! Transcript sooooon!
1:56 am WriterRoss: @PetaAndersen Yes to WHEN YOU REACH ME. Very much a city-centric book. I related. #kidlitchat
1:57 am peg366: Many of Jan Brett’s books have distinct settings that make the story as well. For a pb. #kidlitchat
1:57 am SheviStories: @jafhedlund Owl Moon? #kidlitchat
1:57 am DDHearn: So, I don’t know what is happening with twitter tonight, but I guess I’ll sign off. #kidlitchat
1:57 am happybluejess: Neverland is a memorable setting to me, too. #kidlitchat
1:57 am SheviStories: @jafhedlund Or maybe, I Love You the Purplest. #kidlitchat
1:57 am DDHearn: So, I don’t know what is happening with twitter tonight, but I guess I’ll sign off. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1:57 am Becky_Levine: Twitter and Tweetchat are seriously wonky. Think I’ll sign off & think about setting at Hull-House, way back when! Night, all. #kidlitchat
1:58 am bonnieadamson: @delzey Something has. #kidlitchat
1:58 am PetaAndersen: @jafhedlund #kidlitchat story about setting – Ezra Jack Keats’ The Snowy Day, Eric Carle’s Dream Snow.
1:58 am adamselzer: Humbling to think: write what you will, many readers’ mental image will just come from the cover. #kidlitchat
1:59 am kellyhashway: I think kidlitchat broke twitter. Goodnight all. #kidlitchat
1:59 am WriterRoss: Nancy Werlin advised writers to write from the “basement” — let those hidden things come out on page. I am afraid of basemnts! #kidlitchat
1:59 am SheviStories: One more: Where the Wild Things Are. #kidlitchat
1:59 am bonnieadamson: @SheviStories Setting as character/importance of setting #kidlitchat
1:59 am delzey: ok, tweetchat and hootsuite aren’t working for me, so i’m going to have to shut down. good times, tweeps. #kidlitchat
1:59 am PetaAndersen: #kidlitchat Diary of a Wombat and the Madeleine books use setting really well, too – In an old house in Paris that was covered in vines…
2:00 am WriterRoss: @DDHearn It wasn’t just me? Whewsh. #kidlitchat
2:00 am SheviStories: There seems to be a five-minute lag time for my posts. Anyone else experiencing this? #kidlitchat
2:00 am wellreadchild: Picture books with memorable settings: Knuffle Bunny and The Girl in the Castle Inside the Museum #kidlitchat
2:01 am PeterMcL: @susanjsteward I set things where the plot requires them to be! #kidlitchat
2:01 am WriterRoss: RT @JennRHubbard: @WriterRoss I think the styles have changed, so I’d say the rule is no more long descriptions–but every rule has exceptions #kidlitchat
2:01 am PetaAndersen: What about the Madeleine L’Engle books? The house in A Wrinkle in Time, & the NE setting really spoke to me. #kidlitchat
2:01 am jenfos: RT @mrswritebrain: @camarshall Has a great blog post about using google maps for setting research. http://bit.ly/dc8hxd #kidlitchat
2:01 am KatGirl_Studio: @mgbuehrlen much more likely that she was crazy #kidlitchat
2:02 am bonnieadamson: Thank you all for struggling with twitter woes tonight. Enjoyed the convo–what I could follow, at least! ‘Night! #kidlitchat
2:02 am jenfos: @delzey that’s the question I was trying to ask. #kidlitchat
2:02 am SheviStories: I have a YA that takes place in a theme park, but from the POV of ghosts there. The setting is integral to the story. #kidlitchat
2:02 am aimeebartis: @MyraMcEntire I missed #kidlitchat but saw you tweet about Ramona. The boys and I started reading Ramona & Her Father. in love again
2:03 am PetaAndersen: @WriterRoss #kidlitchat I’ve only been to NY a couple of times, so When You Reach Me was familiar but unfamiliar, which I loved…
2:03 am KatGirl_Studio: night everyone, I’m back to painting sketch cards for charity #kidlitchat
2:03 am SheviStories: Another PB where the setting is important: Eloise. Only at the Plaza! #kidlitchat
2:03 am delzey: @jenfos i totally did a walk-thru of an old NY neighborhood for research in a bio using street view #kidlitchat
2:04 am cherylherbsman: @adamselzer funny thing about covers — i find people who know my cover online expect me to look like the model on it #kidlitchat
2:04 am jenfos: @WriterRoss: “basement” — let those hidden things come out on page. I am afraid of basemnts! – I am afraid of those things #kidlitchat
2:04 am peg366: @bonnieadamson Night Bonnie and Greg and all the great fellow tweeters. #kidlitchat
2:05 am happybluejess: Thanks all! Good night! #kidlitchat
2:05 am jafhedlund: Came late, but gotta go. Night all! #kidlitchat
2:07 am SheviStories: I think setting is important because it reveals who the characters are in the way they view & interact with it. #kidlitchat
2:08 am JennRHubbard: @KatGirl_Studio That mysterious door is begging for a story! #kidlitchat
2:08 am SheviStories: @delzey I have a story that takes place in NYC. Used Google Earth to show me street-level views, a virtual walk-through. #kidlitchat
2:09 am jenfos: Ciao all. Good talk. Made me think. #kidlitchat
2:09 am delzey: @kellyhashway actually, i think GLEE tweets broke twitter #kidlitchat
2:10 am mgbuehrlen: So sorry I missed #kidlitchat b/c Twitter was down. There’s always next week.

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