Kidlitchat Transcript – June 15
| 1:01 am | kidlitchat: | TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat |
| 1:01 am | SheviStories: | Best way to follow KidLitChat: http://tweetchat.com/room/kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:01 am | bonnieadamson: | TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat |
| 1:01 am | tehawesomersace: | Oh, I’m so torn…do I watch the game or follow #kidlitchat |
| 1:01 am | hpinski: | Hi all, topic? #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | kellyhashway: | Hi, everyone. Interesting topic tonight. #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | dosankodebbie: | RT @BonnieAdamson: TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | AERought: | Great question, Greg! I’m actually thinking of using a penname to start a fresh YA brand #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | dawnmetcalf: | @gregpincus “Branding” is a bad word if it involves hot pokers. #kidlitchat |
| 1:02 am | pippinmathur: | Stopping by #kidlitchat for a few muns before my eyeballs fall out. |
| 1:03 am | Buffyandrews: | Hi everyone. glad to make it this week:) #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | carolgrannick: | @gregpincus @bonnieadamson Good, broad – and almost existential – question… #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | EgmontUSA: | Tweetchat is running very slow. Arrgh! #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | bonnieadamson: | @pippinmathur Ewww. #kidlitchat |
| 1:03 am | sharifwrites: | RT @bonnieadamson: TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | erinbowbooks: | My approach to branding is “being yourself, in public.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | tehawesomersace: | Hi all! Just popping in until the Celtics start taking names  #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | gregpincus: | @dawnmetcalf Yes, I agree – poker iron branding is not fun. But what about this whole marketing concept of branding? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | pippinmathur: | I think branding is a big deal when you first start ad an illustrator, it’s all about the look to hook the first pb #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | bonnieadamson: | @carolgrannick It seems to have slippery connotations. I think of branding as a marketing tool: bus. cards, etc. #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | dawnmetcalf: | In all seriousness, “branding” is great for setting trends/expectations but I’m wary of pigeonholing myself by age or genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | MariahDeMarco: | RT @sharifwrites: RT @bonnieadamson: TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | bonnieadamson: | @pippinmathur The hook look? #kidlitchat |
| 1:04 am | EgmontUSA: | Oooh! Branding good one. I’ll sit back for a little, but I’m here for the publisher perspective. #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | dawnmetcalf: | RT @erinbowbooks: My approach to branding is “being yourself, in public.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | jeanie_w: | RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | literaticat: | Is it um #kidlitchat yet?? #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | gregpincus: | RT @erinbowbooks: My approach to branding is “being yourself, in public.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | TracyClark_TLC: | Branding isn’t a bad word. But branding and balance need to go hand in hand. A balance of personal and professional. #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | SheviStories: | I’ve never thought of branding. What do you mean? #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | tehawesomersace: | Branding? I think it’s something we worry about unnecessarily, as authors/illustrators. #kidlitchat |
| 1:05 am | pippinmathur: | @bonnieadamson sorry, no more gross descriptions of exhaustion  #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | AERought: | @EgmontUSA as a pub, are you looking for established branded authors, or willing to work with authors w/out a brand? #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | sharifwrites: | @dawnmetcalf I know what you mean, because what if one wants to expand outside of their branding persona? #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | sarahockler: | If you’re being honest and genuine in books, online, and in person, your “brand” will develop naturally. #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | dosankodebbie: | @bonnieadamson sorry, but would you define the term branding for me? #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | andybrokaw: | Oh, drat, I forgot it’s #kidlitchat night. I’m on my way out for my I Finished My Rough Draft victory dinner. (It’s weird having Tues free.) |
| 1:06 am | erinbowbooks: | I hope to write a variety of books. They’ll all reflect my obsessions, I suppose, and my authorial presence. Is that branding? #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | john_zeleznik: | I want to be branded with a light bulb heated wire hanger…oh, wait, wrong branding…#kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | gregpincus: | @tehawesomersace So, do you think of marketing in terms of each project? Not at all? #kidlitchat |
| 1:06 am | jennymckmoss: | My three books (2 out, 1 in Dec) are v different – so I worry abt opposite – finding an audience if your books aren’t similar #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | cherylherbsman: | RT @sarahockler: If you’re being honest and genuine in books, online, and in person, your “brand” will develop naturally. #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | dawnmetcalf: | @john_zeleznik See? I’m not the ONLY one… #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | MariahDeMarco: | I love branding and think of it as trying to define ‘what one can expect’ when they come to you for work…. #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | TracyClark_TLC: | @andybrokaw Awesome! Congrats! #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | gregpincus: | @SheviStories Branding in the sense of “how you are known” to others, I’d say (broadly). #kidlitchat |
| 1:07 am | literaticat: | AMEN RT @sarahockler If yr being honest & genuine in books, online & in person, your “brand” will develop naturally #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | JennRHubbard: | RT @erinbowbooks: My approach to branding is “being yourself, in public.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | carolgrannick: | RT @gregpincus: @SheviStories Branding in the sense of “how you are known” to others, Id say (broadly). #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | shimes06: | I’m a newbie so not sure how branding applies to me as an ‘as of yet unpublished’ author so I’ll sit back and learn for now #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | TracyClark_TLC: | THAT-> RT @sarahockler: If youre being honest and genuine in books, online, and in person, your “brand” will develop naturally. #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | sharifwrites: | RT @sarahockler: If you’re being honest and genuine in books, online, and in person, your “brand” will develop naturally. #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | adamselzer: | Writing in variety does make branding kinda tricky. I’m not even sure how to think of myself sometimes! #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | SheviStories: | What is the definition of “branding?” #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | dawnmetcalf: | RT @MariahDeMarco: I love branding and think of it as trying to define ‘what one can expect’ when they come to you for work…. #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | gregpincus: | @sarahockler Ya – as an individual, you can’t create a non-genuine “brand” I don’t think. Don’t know how it would work! #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | amyknichols: | I’m late and only have have my brain focused here, but hello. #kidlitchat |
| 1:08 am | literaticat: | I think that the responses by @erinbowbooks and @sarahockler are so perfect, that this topic is actually over already. #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | MariahDeMarco: | like, if someone says, #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | MariahDeMarco: | I’m gonna go to starbucks then going to buy some nike’s’ you know they’re grabbing a coffee&buying some shoes… #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | KatGirl_Studio: | I use the same colors, and graphics to represent my studio everything from biz cards to event banners to our mascot Kiki #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | JennRHubbard: | One way to look at it: What do we, as readers, like to assume when we see a familiar author’s name? #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | john_zeleznik: | I think I’d like to be branded as a George RR Martin for teens. Or Tamora Pierce for boys? #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | MariahDeMarco: | There’s a really good video on it (where that came from) I’ll try to dig up the link.. #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | AERought: | Branding is big talk, from epubs in Romancelandia to here. Coming from one to the other…I’m fuzzled *_* #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | EgmontUSA: | @AERought Buildign off of already established success if always appealing, but a pubisher does a lot to help you develop a brand #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | swdooley: | I think the ship may have sailed on my brand. There’s already a musician, an artist, and a school for autism with the same name. #kidlitchat |
| 1:09 am | jennymckmoss: | RT @JennRHubbard: One way to look at it: What do we, as readers, like to assume when we see a familiar authors name? #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | srolutola: | @erinbowbooks I can see circumstances where that wouldn’t work out for everyone. Especially 4 those who r shy/awkward in public #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | erinbowbooks: | I think most efforts to artificially create a brand fail for YA authors. Teens can sense the falseness. #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | amyknichols: | Is the topic branding or promotion? #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | gregpincus: | @literaticat Could be over in definition… but them how to think of it in practice might be of interest? #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | bonnieadamson: | @KatGirl_Studio But do you consider only doing one type of art, to make your style recognizable? #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | sarahockler: | @gregpincus I would argue that as an individual, you can’t create *any* kind of brand. Products are branded. People are not. #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | cherylherbsman: | @sarahockler I agree. Look back over one’s recent blog posts, etc. you’ll find the brand there #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | SteveEmond: | My work has taken on it’s own look and feel but I want to do so many different styles eventually… #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | erinbowbooks: | On the other hand I should probably get some business cards and a better website. #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | bonnieadamson: | @amyknichols How are they different? maybe THAT’s the topic! #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | pippinmathur: | I think it is different for illustrators. We are all about the visual. This is what I can do type thing #kidlitchat |
| 1:10 am | deegarretson: | It’s hard to believe branding really works if you try to be something you’re not #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | tehawesomersace: | @gregpincus I think just write what you love and be yourself. Most successful authors promote each project on own merits. #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | carolgrannick: | I think “brand” used to be narrower – like a tagline for who you are, what you do. Not so narrow anymore, esp in lit biz #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | AERought: | @EgmontUSA Thanks so much! I knew I was picking up Egmont books all the time for a reason ^_^ #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | TracyClark_TLC: | I think of it like this: Twilight=brand, Stephanie Meyer=person. #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | gregpincus: | @sarahockler I’d say that you aren’t a brand…but have a brand. It is broader than, say, Coke. But it can work. #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | amyknichols: | @bonnieadamson Ah. Thanks. I know very little about either, to be honest. #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | bonnieadamson: | @pippinmathur Well, and illustrators in general are more comfortable with marketing themselves, wouldn’t you say? #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | erinbowbooks: | @srolutola Yeah, the whole notion that authors have to be available to readers is a little odd — branding or otherwise. #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | SteveEmond: | So far any branding I’ve done has just come naturally without effort. I don’t like to think about it! #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | EgmontUSA: | @AERought Aww! #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | sharifwrites: | @amyknichols Branding #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | Gwenda: | Branding is painful–just get a tattoo if you must. #kidlitchat |
| 1:11 am | john_zeleznik: | I think for those of us unpubbed it’s hard to think about branding and how to brand me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @bonnieadamson I kinda do, all my pieces are painted in the same fashion, with vibrant colors and atmospheric perspective. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | bonnieadamson: | @amyknichols I think the point is, the word is being bandied about so much lately, and no one knows for sure what is meant. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | crissachappell: | You can write about all kinds of stuff…and still remain true to your voice. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | DeadRules2011: | @gregpincus sorry to trouble you this moment but how do I participate in kidlit chat? #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | erinbowbooks: | @TracyClark_TLC But V.C. Andrews = Brand, right? Some authors are so predictable that their name itself becomes valuable. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | cherylherbsman: | I think it’s crucial that we be able to create brands that are broad enough that they don’t require formulaic writing #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | Christina_Lee04: | Hello everyone *waves* #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | cherylherbsman: | RT @crissachappell: You can write about all kinds of stuff…and still remain true to your voice. #kidlitchat |
| 1:12 am | carolgrannick: | RT @bonnieadamson: @amyknichols …the word is being bandied about so much lately, and no one knows for sure what is meant. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | srolutola: | let’s say that in real life this great kidlit author is perpetually high, super bitchy, skanky etc. being geniune might not work #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | bonnieadamson: | @KatGirl_Studio Is that consciously to brand yourself, though–or just what you most enjoy? #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | KateMessner: | Yes! RT @crissachappell: You can write about all kinds of stuff…and still remain true to your voice. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | tehawesomersace: | Think of it like Coke. Coke makes lots of flavors of soda, but markets each one differently. Possibly for diff audiences. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | RosemaryMarotta: | my problem with branding is that it seems like some writers write to brand and thinking it will sell better…. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | Gwenda: | @literaticat It’s definitely a way to stand out. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | wellerwishes: | RT @erinbowbooks: My approach to branding is “being yourself, in public.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | gregpincus: | @DeadRules2011 try going to tweetchat.com login and enter in #kidlitchat when it asks for a room. It will add the tag when you type a msg. |
| 1:13 am | dawnmetcalf: | Agreed. RT @erinbowbooks the whole notion that authors have to be available to readers is a little odd – branding or otherwise. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | amyknichols: | It seems like for authors who have brands, their brands are based on their writing. Stephen King. Tom Clancy. Stephenie Meyer. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | tehawesomersace: | Yes! RT @cherylherbsman: Its crucial that we create brands that are broad enough that they dont require formulaic writing #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | jeanie_w: | RT @KateMessner: Yes! RT @crissachappell: You can write about all kinds of stuff…and still remain true to your voice. #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | srolutola: | though i think 4 most ppl being geniune is the ticket but there’s always this sense that u have to conduct yrself in certain way #kidlitchat |
| 1:13 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @bonnieadamson Kiki Kitty our mascot is very recognizable. People remember her years later… #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | jennymckmoss: | Interesting issue. As a reader, I do tend to look to an author for certain types of books. As a writer, I’m all over the place. #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @bonnieadamson …”oh your the studio with the purple cat.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | I think its essential to be ourselves as writers but remain proffesional & respectful if we want to make it a career. #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | mrseea16: | @amyknichols I think that is true, as well. #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | SheviStories: | What? I still don’t understand. RT @gregpincus: Branding in the sense of “how you are known” to others, Id say (broadly). #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | TracyClark_TLC: | @erinbowbooks I suppose. But then you get all kinds of static (Grisham) if you try to do something a bit different. #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | bonnieadamson: | @amyknichols Yes–that’s after-the-fact branding–which is marketing, tho–right? Not something they set out to do? #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | MichelleHodkin: | If you write the stories only you can write, your books will have YOU stamped all over them. Only branding you need, no? #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | RosemaryMarotta: | @tehawesomersace I agree….when it becomes predictable then it becomes boring… #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | gregpincus: | I think “branding” has taken on many meanings. Publishers tell authors to “get online and brand” self. What’s it mean? #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | windyaphayrath: | RT @literaticat: AMEN RT @sarahockler If yr being honest & genuine in books, online & in person, your “brand” will develop naturally #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:14 am | dawnmetcalf: | @sharifwrites I think of MT Anderson & Neil Gaiman who expanded beyond their initial brand. It can be done & done very well. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | dawnmetcalf: | RT @MichelleHodkin: If you write the stories only you can write, your books will have YOU stamped all over them. Only branding you need, no? #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | AERought: | @jennymckmoss me, too! I’ve written so much and so varied, but I like what I like, and it’s narrower #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | carolgrannick: | As a reader, I don’t think ‘branding’ enters into my choices. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | bonnieadamson: | @KatGirl_Studio That’s the “good” kind of branding–but what if someone told you NOT to paint a certain way #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | Gwenda: | This may be a delicate flower response, but corporate terminology being thrown around about artists makes me want to flee. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | wheems01: | RT @MichelleHodkin: If you write the stories only you can write, your books will have YOU stamped all over them. Only branding you need, no? #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | adamselzer: | We’re available for readers mainly because we kinda crave the attention. Or is it just me? #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | JennRHubbard: | Some writers use different pen names for their different styles of book. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | erinbowbooks: | @amyknichols King, Meyer, and Clancy are interesting examples. Except pos. for King, they hoe pretty narrow rows. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | TracyClark_TLC: | @gregpincus I think they mean to get out there and promote your books and your self. I expect that I’ll be expected to do that. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | gregpincus: | Let’s expand this away from simply “voice” into the idea that there’s pressure on authors/illustrators to SELL. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @bonnieadamson no it’s very conscious, i get alot of comments on the style so i try to make all the paintings feel like they… #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | bonnieadamson: | @KatGirl_Studio . . . for fear of “confusing” potential clients? #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | Gwenda: | Making decisions about your career and its direction–and your public activities related to such–is not the same as branding. #kidlitchat |
| 1:15 am | heatherwpetty: | @adamselzer It is not just you. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @bonnieadamson …come from the same world. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | SheviStories: | Still not getting in. Are you saying a writer’s/illustrator’s name is the same thing as a brand? Like Heinz ketchup? #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | KateMessner: | I work w/ three different editors at three houses – none have ever asked me to get online and brand myself. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | jennymckmoss: | So maybe less disconnect between writer & expectations of reader if you as a writer are drawn to a certain genre . . . #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | tehawesomersace: | @MichelleHodkin Yes, that’s the difference between author voice and character voice, no? Author voice always comes through. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | sarahockler: | RT @Gwenda: corporate terminology being thrown around about artists makes me want to flee. <– Me 2! That’s y I left corporate. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | pippinmathur: | @bonnieadamson good point, is it because of all the art school critiques or is it simply easier to market a drawing? #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | JennRHubbard: | Honestly, though–wouldn’t you be disappointed to pick up a noted humor writer’s book and find it tragic and serious? #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | lyonmartin: | A corporation is branded with a logo and a tag line and a coherent look. Why not an author or illustrator? #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | ElissaJanine: | RT @literaticat: AMEN RT @sarahockler If yr being honest & genuine in books, online & in person, your “brand” will develop naturally #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | deegarretson: | @swdooley maybe your brand could have something to do with wearing cats on your head. (I love your pic. by the way) #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @bonnieadamson why would they do that? #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | erinbowbooks: | @carolgrannick I don’t pick authors for their brands either — but there are authors whose every book I read. What’s the dif? #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | heatherwpetty: | @Gwenda If that makes us delicate, I’m a gardenia. #kidlitchat |
| 1:16 am | EgmontUSA: | @carolgrannick But it does. When you see a certain author’s name you get to a pnt where you knwo what to expect from them. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | amyknichols: | @bonnieadamson Tbat makes it all the more confusing for those not yet published. What speaks to my brand if not my writing? #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | gregpincus: | @TracyClark_TLC And do you view that differently than creating a “brand” around yourself and your work? #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | jeanie_w: | @gregpincus I like the PD James mystery novels but I’m glad she stepped outside her brand box to write Children of Men. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | SheviStories: | Exactly. Which is why I don’t get the topic. ?? RT @sarahockler: I would argue that …Products are branded. People are not. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | bonnieadamson: | @pippinmathur Or that an illustrator is maybe more likely to embrace WFH at the outset of career? #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | lisa_schroeder: | Me too!! RT @Gwenda …corporate terminology being thrown around about artists makes me want to flee. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | MichelleHodkin: | @literaticat  #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | srolutola: | @erinbowbooks it’s interesting cuz you have authors like Suzanne Collins who don’t blog/tweet etc. and r still very successful #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | kevindilmore: | NEVER is branding a bad word?not in today’s marketplace. Dayton & I chose to stick with our cover billing for that reason alone #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | adamselzer: | There are plenty of authors that I think of as a certain “type” but who also have GREAT books that go against that type. #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | Christina_Lee04: | It’s true that it would develop naturally. If you put yourself out there on-line & in-person, etc. you’re making a name 4 urself #kidlitchat |
| 1:17 am | bonnieadamson: | @KatGirl_Studio Well, I’ve heard ADs critique portfolios by saying not to include too much variety–same thing? #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | MichelleHodkin: | @tehawesomersace Yup! #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | cherylherbsman: | RT @MichelleHodkin: If you write the stories only you can write, your books will have YOU stamped all over them. Only branding you need, no? #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | adamselzer: | So creating a brand for yourself doesn’t have to be painting yourself into a corner. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | SheviStories: | Exactly. Product vs producer. RT @TracyClark_TLC: I think of it like this: Twilight=brand, Stephanie Meyer=person. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | OfKingsAndGods: | OK what’s the actual topic….? I want to respond to what I’ve seen but not sure direction to take #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | literaticat: | ME THREE MILLION @lisa_schroeder @Gwenda …corporate terminology being thrown around about artists makes me want to flee. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | amyknichols: | @SheviStories That’s my thought, too (people vs. product). #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | Gwenda: | Especially since YA/kids is one of the few realms where there are authors who write lots of different kinds of books. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | erinbowbooks: | @TracyClark_TLC Some authors seem trapped by their own brand, I think. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | lisa_schroeder: | Does your editor look to you for a certain type of book? Is that because you are now a “brand?” Or is that something else? #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | bonnieadamson: | @amyknichols That’s a good point: for now, maybe think of branding as “image”? #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | EgmontUSA: | As a new writer, better to establish that you can do 1 thing really well – e.g. humor – before branching out to another, #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | clairelegrand: | RT @literaticat: AMEN RT @sarahockler If yr being honest & genuine in books, online & in person, your “brand” will develop naturally #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | gregpincus: | @gwenda @lisa_schroeder I think the corporate thing is why there’s an issue. I tried to redefine it as Zing instead of brand #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | ElissaJanine: | readers have expectations for an author they recognize, but at the same time, they don’t want a rehash of the same story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | CarolTanzman: | when I talked to my editor for the 1st time (after getting a 2 book deal), he said, “we want to brand you.” they will market. #kidlitchat |
| 1:18 am | bonnieadamson: | @OfKingsAndGods TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | KateMessner: | Yep- time to go write! RT @lisa_schroeder @Gwenda Corporate terminology being thrown around about artists makes me want to flee. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @bonnieadamson oh that makes sense, I have never had that happen to me though. I can do alot of styles but choose not to #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | As a writer of YA & adult I worry that branding may make it hard for me to break out in one genre after I’m pubbed in the other. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | MichelleHodkin: | @srolutola I think of Suzanne Collins as a veteran writer, though. Also, an exception to the rule. A genius exception, but, yes. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | jeanie_w: | @bonnieadamson I have the impression that illustrators are free to expand their range once they’re well established. True? #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | TracyClark_TLC: | @gregpincus I don’t view it differently. I want to sell books and so does the publisher by getting my name and/ART out there. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | carolgrannick: | @EgmontUSA In certain sense, I agree – but I’ve been surprised enough times that I don’t consider my expectation accurate. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | OfKingsAndGods: | @BonnieAdamson Thanks #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | hefollowedme: | RT @ElissaJanine: readers have expectations for an author they recognize, but at the same time, they don’t want a rehash of the same story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:19 am | amyknichols: | @bonnieadamson I see some people putting on an image and it feels so fake to me. Just be yourself. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | DeadRules2011: | @gregpincus THKS #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | tehawesomersace: | @HeatherMcCorkle Hasn’t seemed to effect Richelle Mead’s career any. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | bonnieadamson: | @jeanie_w I think of Kevin Henkes–keeps changing style all the time–whereas others don’t. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | erinbowbooks: | @srolutola Proving (I hope) that writing a great book is more important that running a great blog! #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | pippinmathur: | RT @EgmontUSA: As a new writer, better to establish that you can do 1 thing really well – e.g. humor – before branching out to another, #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | gregpincus: | I guess one question is this: why not establish who you want to be rather than having it defined for you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | Gwenda: | Take M.T. Anderson or Laurie Halse Anderson’s careers for example. Books have range. “Brand” is excellence. #kidlitchat |
| 1:20 am | adamselzer: | @ElissaJane – well, some readers probably DO just want a rehash. Watch what happens if Rowling’s next one isn’t like HP. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | dawnmetcalf: | If your brand is being true to yourself/your voice then touting that brand is good. Branding yourself vs. being “branded” maybe? #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | bonnieadamson: | @amyknichols That’s true, too–maybe just be aware of the image you’re projecting; not try to assume a fake one. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | micolz: | @Gwenda agree! likewise pressure 2 sell. writing is craft, but also my job. wanting to sell/earn $ is not the same as branding. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | TracyClark_TLC: | @erinbowbooks I agree. As an ARTIST, I want freedom to create. I hope that people will love ALL my work. But it’s a business. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | MichelleHodkin: | @srolutola I don’t think using S. Collins or S. Meyer or J.K. Rowling are helpful to use as examples of anything (my $0.02) #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | jennymckmoss: | @adamselzer Perhaps you’re more open-minded reader? I’m not sure reader who’s *not* in pub biz is as open 2 authorgenre-jumping? #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | AERought: | well, that was short-lived fun. Have a great chat! The horde of teens demand FOOD *_* Do they ever get full?? #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | lisa_schroeder: | Don’t most of us have the goal of readers seeing our name and saying – I want to read that, because I know it will be good? #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | fanihiman95376: | RT @gregpincus: I guess one question is this: why not establish who you want to be rather than having it defined for you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | amyknichols: | Like this! RT @Gwenda Take M.T. Anderson or Laurie Halse Anderson’s careers for example. Books have range. “Brand” is excellence #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | dawnmetcalf: | @gregpincus Exactly. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | EgmontUSA: | @bonnieadamson But Kevin Henkes has established himself. There’s name recognition. You know whatever you get, it’ll be good. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @adamselzer ya really… would cause pandemonium #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | JoKnowles: | Word. RT @Gwenda: Corporate terminology being thrown around about artists makes me want to flee. #kidlitchat |
| 1:21 am | JennRHubbard: | RT @gregpincus: I guess one question is this: why not establish who you want to be rather than having it defined for you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | jeanie_w: | RT @gregpincus: I guess one question is this: why not establish who you want to be rather than having it defined for you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | MichelleHodkin: | Yup. RT @adamselzer: some readers probably DO just want a rehash. Watch what happens if Rowlings next one isnt like HP. #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | OfKingsAndGods: | @TracyClark_TLC OK but dont you see Meyer as a Teeny Rom/ Vampiry author? #brand What if she wrote a hist rom- would brand stand #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | micolz: | @KateMessner YES! in fact my last book sold BECAUSE it was such a departure/deviation from my “brand.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | bonnieadamson: | @EgmontUSA Right–so “quality” is his brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | pippinmathur: | @jeanie_w @bonnieadamson yes, look at David Shannon and guy who won the caldacott for hello goodbye window #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | susanwrites: | RT @gregpincus: I guess one question is this: why not establish who you want to be rather than having it defined for you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | Gwenda: | If we’re not writing the books we have to write, why bother? #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | cherylherbsman: | @JennRHubbard That wouldn’t bother me as long as the packaging of the book made it obvious it wasn’t humor. #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | CarolTanzman: | @gregpincus but you are the one who establishes the brand by the way you write. not the house. #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | SheviStories: | When I read a Jane Yolen picture book, I don’t expect the same kind of writing as one of her YAs. #kidlitchat |
| 1:22 am | Gwenda: | Plus it rocks. RT @micolz: @KateMessner YES! in fact my last book sold BECAUSE it was such departure/deviation from my “brand.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | dawnmetcalf: | Good things to chew on at #kidlitchat going on right now! |
| 1:23 am | gregpincus: | @CarolTanzman But why does “brand” have to be solely defined by the book you write? We are more than one book. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | JennRHubbard: | @cherylherbsman So it’s not just the author who projects brand/image–it’s the publisher, the cover, the flap copy … #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | MichelleHodkin: | @micolz a book I am very, very much looking forward to! #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | RosemaryMarotta: | I agree it is better to say “voice”..then it doesn’t seem corporate@gregpincus. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | micolz: | @lisa_schroeder yes, but i don’t think it can/should prevent you from trying different voices. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | bonnieadamson: | @SheviStories Jane Yolen is the exception to just about EVERY rule. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | OfKingsAndGods: | I even think Rowling is fantasy branded… what if she began writing contemporary romance would her brand stand? #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | heatherwpetty: | @OfKingsAndGods She wrote an adult sci-fi and it didn’t seem to faze her “brand.” #brand #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | bethrevis: | Being a brand isn’t about cranking out a product. We’re not manufacturers. Being a brand is about being true to your voice. #kidlitchat |
| 1:23 am | gregpincus: | True. RT @Gwenda: If we’re not writing the books we have to write, why bother? #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | micolz: | i think @escottwrites is a great example of a writer who has branded herself successfully in different ways. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | erinbowbooks: | Probably I should worry about branding, but I don’t. I write the books I want, as well as I can. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | gregpincus: | @Gwenda Err… wait! I mean, we do it for the fatty paycheck #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | OfKingsAndGods: | @EgmontUSA I agree with that #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | EgmontUSA: | @bonnieadamson Exactly! #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | rebekahleahj: | RT @lisa_schroeder: Don’t most of us have the goal of readers seeing our name and saying – I want to read that, because I know it will be good? #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | TracyClark_TLC: | @OfKingsAndGods But she also wrote HOST which was VERY different. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | ElissaJanine: | @adamselzer yeah, I suppose there comes a time when a brand becomes more of a trap, really. a problem many artists face. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | Nancy_Ravanelli: | RT @gregpincus: True. RT @Gwenda: If we’re not writing the books we have to write, why bother? #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | bonnieadamson: | @pippinmathur Right. An illustrator’s style often evolves–Leo & Diane Dillon?–but that’s different. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | Gwenda: | @gregpincus LOL! Well, that too. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | dosankodebbie: | @gregpincus I think it’s the values that come across in ur writing & art that attract certain fans & keep them coming for more. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | kellyhashway: | @EgmontUSA But what about when a well-known writes with a co-author and the book doesn’t live up to the well-known’s usual? #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | gregpincus: | @ofkingsandgods I think her fans would follow her to read anything she tried. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | SheviStories: | Maybe it depends on what genre you start with: Fantasy/SF fans don’t expect writers to stick to one genre; romance fans do. #kidlitchat |
| 1:24 am | jenfos: | late to the party – what’s the topic? #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | EgmontUSA: | With Patrick Jennings, we want you to know you’re getting great stories for reluctant (boy) readers (1/2) #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | erinbowbooks: | Give me a handful of books and people will say: “oh, she’s the one who likes memories, regrets, and second chances.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | deegarretson: | I don’t know if it falls under branding or not, but many series mystery writers have had a tough time if they try new characters #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | cherylherbsman: | Yes! RT @jennrhubbard So it’s not just the author who projects brand/image–it’s the publisher, the cover, the flap copy … #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | tehawesomersace: | Ack, have to go. The Celtics are losing! Must go light votives, do rain dance, burn incense for basketball gods. Thanks all! #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | bonnieadamson: | @jenfos TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | Gwenda: | Also, are there any super-successful writers out there espousing the brand approach (or who did it)–besides James Patterson? #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | nataliewhipple: | I’m kinda with @maureenjohnson on this?I am not a brand. http://www.maureenjohnsonbooks.com/2010/06/08/manifesto/ #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | CarolTanzman: | I agreeRT @dosankodebbie: @gregpincus I think its the values that come across in ur writing that attract fans & keep them coming #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | fanihiman95376: | RT @gregpincus: True. RT @Gwenda: If we’re not writing the books we have to write, why bother? #kidlitchat |
| 1:25 am | pippinmathur: | I think there is also the pre-pub image and post-pub. One you do to get on the door, the other to meet/exceed expectations. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | EgmontUSA: | So we’re creating a visual cue w/ font and the kind of cover art. You see the look, you get the “brand” 2/2 #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | amyknichols: | @nataliewhipple That was a great post! #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | Gwenda: | I can’t think of any, but I can think of lots of writers who are smart about their careers. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | hefollowedme: | like a musician, a new album comes w/ expectations of similar sounds.Seems when they R established, also able to take more risks #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | Gwenda: | Just be smart and write good books. The rest is fate. (To an extent.) #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | CarolTanzman: | also I will probably never write an out and out humorous book. so that brands me in a diff way. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | rebekahleahj: | I don’t have a tattoo because I’d be bored with it sooner than later. I don’t write one type of story for the same reason #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | SheviStories: | Art directors might like one style, but art reps seem to prefer variety. That’s been my experience, anyway. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | bethrevis: | I worry more about writing a book someone wants to read than whether or not it fits into a mold–including my own “brand” mold. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | nataliewhipple: | My books? I’m sure will be targeted as a certain brand, but I am me, not my books. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | gregpincus: | I happen to think “brand” is about WAY more than your book in this day and age. I think “book only” limits us. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | lindsey_leavitt: | Hi everyone! What is the topic? #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | Brent_Watson41: | @EgmontUSA That’s who I teach, reluctant boy readers. I’ll have to check Patrick Jennings out. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | DeadRules2011: | Branding doesn’t bother me. I’d like for people to have an idea what they are getting if they buy a book with my name on it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | lisa_schroeder: | @micolz I totally agree. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | jenfos: | @bonnieadamson – I sensed it was something about branding. #kidlitchat |
| 1:26 am | CarolTanzman: | agreed.RT @EgmontUSA: So were creating a visual cue w/ font and the kind of cover art. You see the look, you get the “brand” 2/2 #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | nataliewhipple: | Of course, maybe I should worry more about getting one book published, not whether or not I ever manage to have a “brand.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | bonnieadamson: | @bethrevis Hi, Beth! #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | carolgrannick: | Agree RT @gregpincus: I think “brand” is about WAY more than your book in this day and age. I think “book only” limits us. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | micolz: | @gregpincus @Gwenda I also do it ’cause I get to wear yoga pants all day. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | erinbowbooks: | @gregpincus What do you include in that “way more” (A brand is way more than books) #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | amyknichols: | Do you think branding happens more in genre fiction, less in literary? Just curious. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | Gwenda: | @EgmontUSA That makes total sense, because the book is a product. It should communicate what it is. Author is trickier. #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | EgmontUSA: | @kellyhashway In terms of sales (or as a buyer) you’re still relying on the brand established by that recognized name #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | bonnieadamson: | @jenfos A very hairy topic. . . #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | JennRHubbard: | @gregpincus What else is brand to you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:27 am | MichelleHodkin: | You know who works for these branding scenarios? Daniel Handler/Lemony Snicket. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | srjohannes: | Hi guys! #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | bethrevis: | @BonnieAdamson Hi! #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | jenfos: | @DeadRules2011 – I agree. Not that you can’t do other stuff, but more you won’t surprise anyone with Fbombs and death after a pb #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | CarolTanzman: | there’s the “now for something diff.” when u have a successful brand. readers willing 2 take the chance. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | lyonmartin: | Anne Rice had a vampire brand. Her fans didn’t know what to think when she stopped writing vamp lit #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | pippinmathur: | I think branding is evil when you try too hard or fake it. If it’s just you, it’s not a brand, it’s a style. #kidlitchat |
| 1:28 am | heatherwpetty: | I think the problem comes when authors only approach readers in “brand” mode. ESPECIALLY in social networking. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | MariahDeMarco: | @BonnieAdamson Ooh, I love ‘Pish, Posh, Said Hieronymus Bosch’ from them… one of my first favorites! #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | DawnRaeMiller: | I think people easily confuse the terms branding, marketing and public relations. You brand a book. You market yourself. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | gregpincus: | @nataliewhipple I wrote a response to @maureenjohnson‘s manifesto: http://bit.ly/a9csPU #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | bonnieadamson: | @bethrevis So–not a frivolous question–is the next book the same genre? #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | CarolTanzman: | sorry.. once again I’ve got to go early.interesting conversation. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | jenfos: | RT @pippinmathur: I think branding is evil when you try too hard or fake it. If its just you, its not a brand, its a style. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | amyknichols: | @heatherwpetty Totally agree. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | EgmontUSA: | @Gwenda As a writer you can establish yourself as reliable for really great x, and that develops a fanbase for your author brand #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | MichelleHodkin: | I expect dark and sharp humor with Handler as himself AND Snicket, but Watch Your Mouth vs. Unfortunate Events–SO DIFFERENT. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | gregpincus: | @erinbowbooks @JennRHubbard Online presence, articles, offline appearances, your platform, your ability to CONNECT #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | JennRHubbard: | @gregpincus Do you mean writers would be expected not only to write a certain way, but to speak and dress a certain way? #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | heatherwpetty: | @nataliewhipple I’m still focused on the one-book thing too. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | jenfos: | @heatherwpetty I agree – online authenticity = just be yourself. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | SheviStories: | Fantasy/SF readers are open to it. RT @jennymckmoss: Im not sure reader whos *not* in pub biz is as open 2 authorgenre-jumping? #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | Gwenda: | @MichelleHodkin Sorta. Those books have a definite brand. Handler seems to do what he wants–love his adult novels. #kidlitchat |
| 1:29 am | lisa_schroeder: | With 3 YA novels out, I do think my readers expect a certain something from me as a writer. Will I always deliver it? Who knows? #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | micolz: | @Gwenda Well, the commercial, genre writers, right? Like, even Grisham’s children’s is law-y, right? #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @bonnieadamson That’s a great point! Richelle has done very well at not getting stuck in one genre by branding. There’s hope! #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | bonnieadamson: | @MariahDeMarco They actually started out doing Little Golden Books, I believe–hugely different style. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | innaj: | @jenfos But can’t someone tell a book likely to have cussing and death from a gentle pb from the packaging, no matter what name? #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | delzey: | howdy folks. late to the party. what’s the flavor this week? #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | micolz: | RT @nataliewhipple: I’m kinda with @maureenjohnson on this?I am not a brand. http://www.maureenjohnsonbooks.com/2010/06/08/manifesto/ #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | jordynface: | All this talk about “brand” makes me want to point everyone to @maureenjohnson‘s fabulous blog post. #kidlitchat |
| 1:30 am | MichelleHodkin: | @Gwenda me too. My point was that I get a sense of WHO Handler is as a writer, even though the books = not remotely the same. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | adamselzer: | Bu I think brand becoming a trap is more of an issue for actors and musicians than writers, really. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | sharifwrites: | @pippinmathur When I look at authors, I want the real person to show through, not the hard sell (or shell). #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | bonnieadamson: | @delzey TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | gregpincus: | @JennRHubbard Who would “expect” that? Writers/illustrators are in charge of themselves, aren’t they? #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | MariahDeMarco: | RT @DeadRules2011: Branding doesn’t bother me. I’d like for people to have an idea what they are getting if they buy a book with my name on it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | SheviStories: | Dav Pilkey wrote and drew both The Paperboy and Captain Underpants. Couldn’t be two picture books as different as that. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | Gwenda: | @EgmontUSA True, but always other fanbases to conquer. Like Scott Westerfeld and diffs in Uglies vs. Leviathan audiences. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | micolz: | @EgmontUSA Definitely — “packaging…” #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | bethrevis: | @BonnieAdamson Yes–is a trilogy. But after that, probably moving from sci fi to fantasy. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | Brent_Watson41: | @adamselzer Totally agree. Good call. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | kellyhashway: | If people are being viewed as brands, then the brands will have naturally have different sides (or genres) just like people do. #kidlitchat |
| 1:31 am | Gwenda: | @MichelleHodkin Oh yes, totally agree. His stuff is his through and through. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | cjomololu: | Someone may have pointed this out already, but Laurie Halse Anderson writes all over the map. The brand? Good writing. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | Amanda_Cathryn: | I don’t plan on writing the same thing forever when I’m pub’d, so I don’t want people angry with me if they don’t get a brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | TracyBishopArt: | RT @pippinmathur: I think branding is a big deal when you first start ad an illustrator, it’s all about the look to hook the first pb #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | juliaakarr: | RT @gregpincus: I guess one question is this: why not establish who you want to be rather than having it defined for you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | gregpincus: | @micolz I’m curious: you don’t think there’s a maureen “brand”? Even if she isn’t a brand doesn’t she “have” one? #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | innaj: | I’m okay talking about branding, but can we lose the word “platform” forever? #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | srjohannes: | Mark Twain wrote this in 1893- “He goes by the brand, yet imagines he goes by the flavor.? of course he liked cigars… #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | kellyhashway: | A brand that says, this book will be good is one thing. A brand that demands a set formula to the story is another. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @lisa_schroeder I agree. You have to be somewhat aware of your audience. I’m not following up P4H with erotica steampunk. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | MichelleHodkin: | RT @cjomololu: Laurie Halse Anderson writes all over the map. The brand? Good writing. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | EgmontUSA: | @Gwenda But he’d already established himself as a name before he branched out. #kidlitchat |
| 1:32 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @cjomololu good writing is the best Brand =^.^= #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | srjohannes: | @nataliewhipple im right there with yah #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | dosankodebbie: | Or English translations of such books? RT @betsyfraser: @EgmontUSA: Wd you print books by author from another country #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | lisa_schroeder: | @lindsey_leavitt Oh come on, I was really hoping for that, LL. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | micolz: | RT @DawnRaeMiller: I think people easily confuse the terms branding, marketing and public relations. You brand a book. You market yourself. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | MichelleHodkin: | LOVE. RT @lindsey_leavitt: You have to be somewhat aware of your audience. Im not following up P4H with erotica steampunk. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | PuddleReader: | New but I’ll jump in. I think brand still has a stigma attached but that it’s evolving to have more positive & personal meaning #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | Gwenda: | @EgmontUSA Well, he wrote lots of different books starting out. The lots was the key. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | amyknichols: | RT @KatGirl_Studio @cjomololu good writing is the best Brand =^.^= #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | EgmontUSA: | @Gwenda I’m not arguing against branching out. That’s good. But you prove yourself in one area before going to another. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | peg366: | so True. RT @KatGirl_Studio: @cjomololu good writing is the best Brand =^.^= #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | jenfos: | RT @KatGirl_Studio: @cjomololu good writing is the best Brand =^.^= #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | cjomololu: | @lindsey_leavitt Aw. I want erotica steampunk. Get on it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | srjohannes: | @lindsey_leavitt bummer – no erotica? Im unfollowing your blog ANd newsletter if that’s the case. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | bonnieadamson: | @bethrevis Cool! #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | innaj: | Yes! RT @KatGirl_Studio good writing is the best Brand =^.^= #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | swdooley: | My writing is far more consistent and coherent than my blogging/chatting/speaking. Shy girl would rather her books be the brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | delzey: | didn’t this whole idea about author branding start when corps took over publishing back in the 90s? #kidlitchat |
| 1:33 am | micolz: | @heatherwpetty definitely. branding yourself = important part of the job. but it shouldn’t be what drives you. too disingenuous. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | bethrevis: | Difference lies in style brand (ie romcom) and “networking author” brand. One good, one bad. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | rebekahleahj: | RT @cjomololu: Someone may have pointed this out already, but Laurie Halse Anderson writes all over the map. The brand? Good writing. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | Gwenda: | @EgmontUSA Midnighters started publishing before Uglies did. Each series has an IDable brand of its own too. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | jennymckmoss: | Love writing diff types of stories – challenge 4 me – but I tend 2 believe it’s harder 2 find readers who’ll look 4 ur next book #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | lisa_schroeder: | Do I “brand” myself? No. Does my publisher “brand” me? Look at my 3 books. Same size. Same font. Same style. You bet they are. #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | OfKingsAndGods: | RT @gregpincus: I guess one question is this: why not establish who you want to be rather than having it defined for you? #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | dawnmetcalf: | RT @peg366: so True. RT @KatGirl_Studio: @cjomololu good writing is the best Brand =^.^= #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | gregpincus: | @cjomololu @lindsey_leavitt wouldn’t that be steamypunk? #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | JennRHubbard: | @gregpincus Good q–who does set the expectations? Readers? Publishers? Booksellers? #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @gregpincus Good point Even if it isn’t intentional, there’s always somewhat of a brand. Like I know MJ books will make me smile #kidlitchat |
| 1:34 am | adamselzer: | @gregpincus Of course she is. All “public” people have an image, whether they like it or not, and that image = brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | lindsey_leavitt: | RT @lisa_schroeder: Do I “brand” myself? No. Does my publisher “brand” me? Look at my 3 books. Same size. Same font. Same style. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | micolz: | @EgmontUSA @Gwenda I think that’s a good pt, & in my own exp, prolly the reason why last sale was considered “departure.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | Gwenda: | @EgmontUSA What if first book/series only does okay–what’s risk in trying something different? May be only way to build career. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | delzey: | i sometimes feel that writers talking about branding is like bands talking about t-shirt sales #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | EgmontUSA: | If your 1st book’s light & about ballerinas, & your next is dark and gritty and bloody, it’s harder to know what to make of you. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | pippinmathur: | RT @EgmontUSA: @Gwenda I’m not arguing against branching out. That’s good. But you prove yourself in one area before going to another. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | jenfos: | RT @adamselzer: @gregpincus All “public” people have an image, whether they like it or not, and that image = brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | KatGirl_Studio: | @gregpincus hahah steamypunk, that’s awesome #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | LisaDez: | @DeadRules2011 How do you know? #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | cjomololu: | My first book was ‘issue’ contemp. My next will (hopefully) be para/rom. I HOPE there’s no branding issue. #kidlitchat |
| 1:35 am | adamselzer: | @DeadRules2011 I’ll bet he does sometimes. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | nataliewhipple: | In the end, I just want to be myself. If people connect with that, awesome. I feel stupid when I try to make people like me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | MichelleHodkin: | @lindsey_leavitt yup. I’d be surprised to find MJ’s name on a @margolanagan or @EllenHopkins book. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | jenfos: | @delzey good point. let’s talk book jackets next. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | mrswritebrain: | Been wondering: should my website/blog reflect myself as an author or what I write (mg boy humor @ present) #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | micolz: | @EgmontUSA @Gwenda Needs to be a departure FROM something to have impact. but the community seems open to it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | Brent_Watson41: | @DeadRules2011 I bet his wife asks him to wear it every so often. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | OfKingsAndGods: | RT @EgmontUSA: @Gwenda I’m not arguing against branching out. That’s good. But you prove yourself in one area before going to another. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | SheviStories: | I’ve written about 40 PBs & 6 novel WIPs: from illustrated MG to a semi-autobiographical YA & a fantasy epic. Am I brandless? #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | delzey: | @EgmontUSA you say that like it’s a problem. what happened to writers writing what mvoes them? #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | lindsey_leavitt: | So it appears I’ve miscalculated my brand and erotica steampunk is in demand. Hmmm, I *could* squeeze in a princess. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | innaj: | Justine Larbalestier strikes me as one author who’s written something different every time and made a career of it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | hatbooks: | now on, #kidlitchat, 10-11 am Japan time #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | bonnieadamson: | @EgmontUSA How about a light ballerina MG followed by a light ballerina picture book–okay? #kidlitchat |
| 1:36 am | rebekahleahj: | RT @nataliewhipple: In the end, I just want to be myself. If people connect with that, awesome. I feel stupid when I try to make people like me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | micolz: | @Gwenda @EgmontUSA Natalie Standiford is another good example. YEARS of work for hire, and then ROBOT. Ppl were excited for her. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | hefollowedme: | RT @EgmontUSA: @Gwenda I’m not arguing against branching out. That’s good. But you prove yourself in one area before going to another. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @nataliewhipple But being yourself kind of IS your brand. Like, I know if I read your blog, it’ll be honest and smart and fun #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | emilyshendricks: | @SheviStories No, you’re just diversified! #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | srjohannes: | u are not ur brand, u HAVE a book brand, u HAVE an author brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | cjomololu: | @lindsey_leavitt Now you’re squeezing princesses? #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | Gwenda: | @micolz @EgmontUSA Definitely–even aside from departures, sometimes breakout requires diff approach. Again, smart decisions. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | EgmontUSA: | Cause just “ok” these days makes it harder to sell the next book. The current book ALWAYS sells the next. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | SheviStories: | But he wrote mystery, fantasy, essays, etc. So…? RT @DeadRules2011: Mark Twain was the master of author branding. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | sarablarson: | @nataliewhipple I know what you mean. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | MichelleHodkin: | FTW. RT @lindsey_leavitt: It appears Ive miscalculated my brand & erotica steampunk is in demand. I could squeeze in a princess. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | innaj: | I think one of the great pitfalls online is for authors and would-be authors to try too hard. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | hatbooks: | RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: What does branding mean to you as an author or illustrator? Is it always a bad word? #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | bonnieadamson: | RT @srjohannes: u are not ur brand, u HAVE a book brand, u HAVE an author brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:37 am | srjohannes: | RT @EgmontUSA: If ur 1st books lite & about ballerinas, & ur next is dark and gritty and bloody, its harder to know what 2 of u. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | EgmontUSA: | @bonnieadamson I think the publishing world would see that as amore natural progression. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | mrseea16: | RT @EgmontUSA: With Patrick Jennings, we want you to know you’re getting great stories for reluctant (boy) readers (1/2) #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @cjomololu I like you. That would be a fun midnight activity at SCBWI LA, huh? SAY UNCLE PRINCESSY #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | MichelleHodkin: | RT @EgmontUSA: Cause just “ok” these days makes it harder to sell the next book. The current book ALWAYS sells the next. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | innaj: | Hang out, be whatever part of yourself you’re comfortable being in public, and don’t stress it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | PuddleReader: | @gregpincus maybe useful to think about reading- a negotiation process between writer & reader. More flexible than established #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | delzey: | forgive my tardiness, did we already discuss the problem w/ the word brand meaning different things to everyone? #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | littlefluffycat: | @BonnieAdamson and yet Henkes’ essence remains the same. Delightful. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | MariahDeMarco: | What about Randy Cecil though? He stays very private and secluded, #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | JennRHubbard: | RT @mrswritebrain: Been wondering: should my website/blog reflect myself as an author or what I write (mg boy humor @ present) #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | SheviStories: | I’d like to brand my various series, but not myself: my work is too varied. #kidlitchat |
| 1:38 am | jenfos: | @DeadRules2011 – She’s wonderful of course. True story. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | MichelleHodkin: | @srjohannes this is your perfect #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | OfKingsAndGods: | it’s interesting how authors view themselves~defining themselves as YA or MG or Paranormal or Romance. What, if not branding #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | jeanie_w: | @BonnieAdamson Better than a dark and gritty and bloody picture book, I’d wager. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | amyknichols: | @JennRHubbard Great question. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | jenfos: | @innaj – I like how you think. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | bonnieadamson: | @littlefluffycat Yeah, I think we established that his particular brand is “awesomeness.” #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | cjomololu: | @lindsey_leavitt Ha! Let’s talk #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | heatherwpetty: | I don’t think brand = genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:39 am | nataliewhipple: | @lindsey_leavitt Hey, don’t throw around such ridiculous flattery:P You had me at Sandra Bullock. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | OfKingsAndGods: | I even think I define myself outwardly. Internally, I think my spectrum is much more broad #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | lindsey_leavitt: | I don’t know why brand is such a bad word. Is it the cattle association? Is there a happy middle? #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | bonnieadamson: | @jeanie_w lol. I really did wonder if editors frown on jumping genres. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | erinbowbooks: | One of the nice things about being grown up is I no longer care whether I’m popular. Branding had better not change that! #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | TracyClark_TLC: | @OfKingsAndGods Not how I define “myself”. But YA is what I happen to write. It tells you about my genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | littlefluffycat: | @BonnieAdamson my favorite is A WEEKEND WITH WENDELL — but it’s a near thing! #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | srjohannes: | And ninja-y ! @lindsey_leavitt @nataliewhipple being urself IS ur brand. I knw ur blog’ll be honest & smart &fun #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | SheviStories: | Isaac Asimov wrote in every category of the Dewey decimal system. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | adelegriffin: | @delzey y that feels very true to me #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | EgmontUSA: | @delzey I’m just trying to give the business perspective on this. These are the things we talk about in considering a book. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | OfKingsAndGods: | RT @SheviStories: Isaac Asimov wrote in every category of the Dewey decimal system. #kidlitchat |
| 1:40 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @nataliewhipple When I was a kid, people told me I looked like 80′s Joey Lawerence (bowl cut) So Sandra makes my life. #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | micolz: | @EgmontUSA @BonnieAdamson and some authors use pseudonyms for diff age level books for just that reason = BRANDING! #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | pippinmathur: | @delzey this is true. Brand = style, genre, look, or personality? One of those, None or all? #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | shimes06: | #kidlitchat could be obv question, but is branding the authors resp, or does some fall on publishers/agents et al shoulders? |
| 1:41 am | MariahDeMarco: | but I’d say he has a brand.I’d expect anything from him (written&illustrated by him)2B just lightly on the darker side&whimsical #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | micolz: | @sarahmlynowski‘s website is another good example – one website, diff brands for chick lit and ya #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | innaj: | Except often readers can TELL you’re faking it RT @DeadRules2011 Better to fake it and be fun than be youself and be a bore. #kidlitchat |
| 1:41 am | SheviStories: | Right, typecasting. RT @adamselzer: I think brand becoming a trap is more of an issue for actors and musicians than writers… #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | MichelleHodkin: | @EgmontUSA and what a helpful perspective it is! #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | nataliewhipple: | @lindsey_leavitt Joey Lawrence was pretty cute, but I get why that would be traumatizing. #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | micolz: | something i have struggled with on my own site – ultimately decided to break down by category #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | OfKingsAndGods: | @TracyClark_TLC True, but you could just say “Author” and be done… without tags #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | bonnieadamson: | @DeadRules2011 But then we love seeing behind the facade–unless ther’s another facade behind the facade. #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | adamselzer: | @SheviStories I’d say about 90% of successful actors play more or less the same role in just about every movie. #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | EgmontUSA: | @micolz Yup yup! #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | dawnmetcalf: | @lindsey_leavitt *snerk* #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | delzey: | @EgmontUSA so you discuss it. has anyone questioned whether or not branding does more harm than good? #kidlitchat |
| 1:42 am | srjohannes: | im not sure how it got out that brands are bad? Just dont’ SELL ur brand all the time and u’ll be fine! #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | lindsey_leavitt: | The beauty of kidlit-there’s more you can do under the umbrella. I’m following my MGgirlyfantasy with a YAcontemp. What about u? #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | SheviStories: | I think I want to be the children’s book version of Steve Moffat. He went from writing Coupling to writing Doctor Who. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | gregpincus: | Relying on publishers to do the branding/marketing can be an option but there’s an opportunity for each person to do more. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | erinbowbooks: | @lindsey_leavitt Perhaps because so many of us are corporate refugees. We don’t like the biz language. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | Brent_Watson41: | @adamselzer You mentioned actors. Gary Coleman, may he rest in peace, was branded….just a little. Didn’t work out so well. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | I think branding can work for you or against you, depending on how you approach it & if you’re aware of it early in your career. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | MariahDeMarco: | RT @srjohannes: im not sure how it got out that brands are bad? Just dont’ SELL ur brand all the time and u’ll be fine! #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | srjohannes: | @MichelleHodkin so true – and so sad – isnt it #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | ErinDealey: | #kidlitchat HI All-I’ve missed the whole thing due to Tweetdeck and Adobe! Driving me crazy! |
| 1:43 am | pippinmathur: | RT @srjohannes: im not sure how it got out that brands are bad? Just dont’ SELL ur brand all the time and u’ll be fine! #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | delzey: | isn’t “children’s author” brand enough w/o slicing the pie thinner? what’s the value-add in branding? #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | mrswritebrain: | Is the whole point of branding to sell one’s image to the target audience or the pub world or both? #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | peg366: | Like that. RT @srjohannes: im not sure how it got out that brands are bad? Just dont SELL ur brand all the time and ull be fine! #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | jenfos: | Is brand just a new fancy marketing term for image? #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | TracyClark_TLC: | @OfKingsAndGods I don’t agree, my friend. You know to find milk in the DAIRY aisle. My books in the YA aisle. #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | micolz: | @EgmontUSA wait — publishing is a BUSINESS?  #kidlitchat |
| 1:43 am | nataliewhipple: | I figure don’t stress about brand or whatever?it’ll come out naturally, right? Or am I just lazy? #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | dawnmetcalf: | @mrswritebrain Key question: Is it an author website/blog (you) or a book website/blog (your book)? #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | amyknichols: | @SheviStories Woohoo! Two of my favorite shows ever. #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | OfKingsAndGods: | @heatherwpetty True. I don’t think it *has to* but in some cases it might. #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | ErinDealey: | So branding is the topic? #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | EgmontUSA: | @dosankodebbie @englishbookx Sorry. Misssed this 1. We do buy in titles from foreign publishers if they’re the right fit. #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | MichelleHodkin: | @micolz your perspective in this chat? FTW. So helpful. #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | dawnmetcalf: | @nataliewhipple Lazy like a FOX! #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | jenfos: | @lindsey_leavitt agreed. First did pb now trying a middlegrade. Don’t feel it’s an impossible change #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | hatbooks: | @gregpincus what is some of the “more” you suggest authors do re. branding? #kidlitchat |
| 1:44 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @erinbowbooks very true, Erin. And we want to know that there is room to grow out, not climb up a straight ladder #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | nataliewhipple: | @jenfos Image sounds nicer. I’m going with that. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | writerscanvas: | RT @sarahockler: If you’re being honest and genuine in books, online, and in person, your “brand” will develop naturally. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | ErinDealey: | bottom line: Brand=name recognition This is how Madonna and such get book contracts. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | kapybara: | @nataliewhipple Not lazy. But, then, I figure everyone is already their own brand the second they step out their front door. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | kerimikulski: | @bethrevis Second that.. #kidlitchat And write the book you want to read. |
| 1:45 am | SheviStories: | Me too! I love Steve Moffat. RT @amyknichols: @SheviStories Woohoo! Two of my favorite shows ever. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | bethrevis: | Maybe the way to look at it: make your brand be yourself, but don’t make yourself be the brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | bonnieadamson: | @srjohannes Kinda started with Maureen Johnson’s “manifesto”: http://www.maureenjohnsonbooks.com/2010/06/08/manifesto/ #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | kerimikulski: | RT @sarahockler: If you’re being honest and genuine in books, online, and in person, your “brand” will develop naturally. #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | mrswritebrain: | light goes on! RT @dawnmetcalf Key question: Is it an author website/blog (you) or a book website/blog (your book)? #kidlitchat |
| 1:45 am | MariahDeMarco: | RT @ErinDealey: bottom line: Brand=name recognition This is how Madonna and such get book contracts. #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | gregpincus: | @hatbooks online presence, building contacts and connections, building a platform to reach others #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | EgmontUSA: | @delzey We want to do what’s best for our authors, of course. You work w/ an author to figure out what that is. #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | innaj: | RT @sarahockler: If you’re being honest and genuine in books, online, and in person, your “brand” will develop naturally. #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | heatherwpetty: | @OfKingsAndGods I think if genre = brand, you’re selling yourself short, for sure. #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @jenfos PB background makes you concise with language, which is just as important in MG. So good transition, I think #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | shimes06: | @DeadRules2011 doesn’t it benefit the publishers, agents to help you get your brand out there? Or to help establish your brand #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | junegoodwin: | @lisa_schroeder Yep. I recognize you and Simone Elkeles Immediately in the store & she has 2 different publishers! #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | SheviStories: | I still don’t know what that means. RT @bethrevis: Maybe the way to look at it: make your brand be yourself… #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | jenfos: | @kapybara Does that mean I always should comb my hair – or could that be part of my brand. *wink* #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | cjomololu: | I wanted to be more of a brand, but found I didn’t want to write just ‘issue’ books. Always write YA-maybe that’s enough? #kidlitchat |
| 1:46 am | nataliewhipple: | @lindsey_leavitt @erinbowbooks Grow out? Are you giving me permission to get fat? Because if you are I’ll take it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:47 am | gregpincus: | @hatbooks and I’d add that it can’t be calculated and phony. It does have to be about people, not selling #kidlitchat |
| 1:47 am | jenfos: | @nataliewhipple – this is part of that “just be yourself” image. I’ll take that permission with you. Pass the cookies. #kidlitchat |
| 1:47 am | erinbowbooks: | @gregpincus What do you mean by “platform”? #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | srjohannes: | @bonnieadamson i read it but @MaureenJohnson has a def brand.She doesnt have 2 try & make 1 anymore b/c she’s Maureen Johnson!:) #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | ErinDealey: | I’ve noticed a lot of bloggers and tweeps don’t have names that reflect their “brands” #kidlitchat thoughts? |
| 1:48 am | shimes06: | #kidlitchat does branding limit your ability to branch to other genres? If your branded as YA, is it more difficult to then do a PB? |
| 1:48 am | hatbooks: | RT @gregpincus: online presence, building contacts and connections, building a platform to reach others<heed this writers! #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | Deborahkops: | When I was an ed I never called books “products” and feel the same about calling an author’s creation part of a brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | jenfos: | @lindsey_leavitt Thanks. I hope so. It always shocks me when I think of how long it took to get to the right 300 words. #kidlitchat |
| 1:48 am | bethrevis: | @nataliewhipple Pass the cupcakes. Cupcakes can be a brand, right? #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | Inksie: | RT @bethrevis: Maybe the way to look at it: make your brand be yourself, but don’t make yourself be the brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | bonnieadamson: | @srjohannes That’s the irony. #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | TracyClark_TLC: | RT @gregpincus: online presence, building contacts and connections, building a platform to reach others<heed this writers! #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | micolz: | @srjohannes YES! Agree. Needs to be organic. #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @nataliewhipple PERMISSION GRANTED. I’m eating some good pizza right now if you want to get started #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | ccfinlay: | @Gwenda Writers who use marketing talk don’t get it. Talking about “branding” is never a brand. Write your passions. #kidlitchat |
| 1:49 am | jenfos: | @bethrevis It seems that authors really dig the cupcakes. Comes up much more often than cookies or brownies. Why is that? #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | delzey: | but as a beginning writer i am being told to be mindful of my brand – how do i come across it naturally? #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | nataliewhipple: | @bethrevis Yes! Cupcake Brand! But NOT Bran Cupcakes?that’s just wrong. #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | ErinDealey: | I hope not! My YA is out there now, and sevral more pb ms @shimes06 #kidlitchat does branding limit your ability to branch to other genres? |
| 1:50 am | bonnieadamson: | Oh, stop with the cookies and cupcakes. I’m dying for a Krispy Kreme. . . #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | MichelleHodkin: | I think it can be helpful to think of books as products sometimes. Could make it feel less personal when you’re rejected. #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | micolz: | @lisa_schroeder v. good example. and @fluxbooks made choices about SPR based on my sales history in trade pb. BRANDING. #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | jennymckmoss: | Sometimes I do wish the voices in my head would all be from the same genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:50 am | Gwenda: | RT @ccfinlay: @Gwenda Writers who use marketing talk dont get it. Talking about “branding” is never a brand.Write your passions. #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | jenfos: | @bonnieadamson you had to go and bring donuts into the mix. That’s my true weak spot! #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | DawnRaeMiller: | I think you can have different “Brands,” YA, MG, etc, but you market yourself as a writer with personality & passion #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | ErinDealey: | See? there’s a brand! @BonnieAdamson Krispy Kreme. . . #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | srjohannes: | Very yoda-like Beth ! RT @bethrevis: make ur brand be urself, but don’t make urself be the brand. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @jenfos I marvel at picture book writers–you manage a character ARC in so few words #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | micolz: | RT @bethrevis: Maybe the way to look at it: make your brand be yourself, but don’t make yourself be the brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | lisa_schroeder: | @nataliewhipple hahaha – you got that right! No bran cupcakes! @bethrevis #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | erinbowbooks: | So is it OK that I blog/tweet mostly abt cooking & kids? Being passionate, no matter what yr passionate about, is good – right? #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | Inksie: | ‘Brand’ is like ‘voice’; both elusive to describe, both difficult to come across deliberately, and both an extension of yourself #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | nataliewhipple: | @bethrevis @jenfos Cupcakes come in all flavors and style. And YET THEY ARE ALL cupcakes. SAME BRAND! #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | bonnieadamson: | @jenfos Sigh. #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | DDHearn: | I”ve been lurking for a few minutes, and I see that we’re talking about branding, something I”ve found very difficult. #kidlitchat |
| 1:51 am | pippinmathur: | RT @jennymckmoss: Sometimes I do wish the voices in my head would all be from the same genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | bonnieadamson: | @ErinDealey A very YUMMY brand. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | lyonmartin: | I write what demands to be written. Same with what I draw. I am my brand. IS my brand me? #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | ErinDealey: | No you don’t! variety is the spice of life! @jennymckmoss Sometimes I do wish the voices in my head would all be fr same genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | jemifraser: | Love this! RT @jennymckmoss: Sometimes I do wish the voices in my head would all be from the same genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | lydiaruth77: | RT @sarahockler: If you’re being honest and genuine in books, online, and in person, your “brand” will develop naturally. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | erinbowbooks: | @nataliewhipple Come to my house; I want to learn to make pies. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | jenfos: | @lindsey_leavitt You should’ve seen how many words I started at! If you’d ever chatted with me you would be shocked I get there #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | nataliewhipple: | Honesty: It pisses me off when I feel like I’m being used as a “networking connection” instead of being talked to like a person. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | micolz: | @delzey i think the beginning is the time you write what you feel and don’t think – branding follows. #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | bonnieadamson: | @DDHearn AS do we all. Is it something you’re conscious of? #kidlitchat |
| 1:52 am | shimes06: | RT @Inksie: ‘Brand’ is like ‘voice’; both elusive to describe, both difficult to come across deliberately, and both an extension of yourself #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | WendySparrow: | RT @jemifraser: Love this! RT @jennymckmoss: Sometimes I do wish the voices in my head would all be from the same genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | lindsey_leavitt: | Sherman Alexie addressed this at LASCBWI last year and basically said Know your brand, but don’t let it define you #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | adelegriffin: | @MichelleHodkin there’s something to that. b/c it IS so personal, i m always looking for the disconnect #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | TracyClark_TLC: | Do we not want readers to love our 1st book and then buy our 2nd, not because they expect the same story, but the same quality? #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | sarablarson: | @nataliewhipple Very wise. And who doesn’t love cupcakes?! #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | Taliana83: | RT @jemifraser: Love this! RT @jennymckmoss: Sometimes I do wish the voices in my head would all be from the same genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | Amanda_Cathryn: | RT @lindsey_leavitt: Sherman Alexie addressed this at LASCBWI last year and basically said Know your brand, but don’t let it define you #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | nataliewhipple: | @BonnieAdamson Ha. Go ahead and add donuts in there! Let’s bring out the brownies too! Brand=Desserts #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | erinbowbooks: | RT @Inksie: Brand is like voice; elusive to describe, difficult to come across deliberately, and both an extension of yourself #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | srjohannes: | YES! RT @nataliewhipple: It pisses me off whn I feel like Im being used as “networking connection” instead of as a person. #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | pippinmathur: | @bonnieadamson @DDHearn ditto, everyday. #kidlitchat |
| 1:53 am | adelegriffin: | @micolz karen cushman has been a good ex of that #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | Inksie: | Yes please!! RT @jennymckmoss: Sometimes I do wish the voices in my head would all be from the same genre. #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | DDHearn: | @bonnieadamson No. I’ve only recently began hearing about branding. It used to be called having a style (in illustration) #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | pippinmathur: | RT @lindsey_leavitt: Sherman Alexie addressed this at LASCBWI last year and basically said Know your brand, but don’t let it define you #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | jenfos: | @nataliewhipple but will you be my friend? (giggle) I’ll bring cupcakes. #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | kellyhashway: | @TracyClark_TLC I think that’s exactly it. It’s about quality. #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | micolz: | @gregpincus i think she has one, for sure. but i think it evolved naturally and i respect that she doesn’t force it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | DDHearn: | @bonnieadamson And since I have different illustrating styles I’ve always had a hard time “branding ” myself. #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | bonnieadamson: | @nataliewhipple Okay, time to wrap this up folks, and get to the desserts! #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | hatbooks: | sometimes branding can stifle experimentation, no?…authors urged by pub to produce another similar book in a year #kidlitchat |
| 1:54 am | delzey: | i think rather than knowing my brand i’m going to invent an entirely new one. and call it something else. #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | bethrevis: | @nataliewhipple Can I have sprinkles on my brand? #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | peg366: | I’ll second that. RT @kellyhashway: @TracyClark_TLC I think thats exactly it. Its about quality. #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | Inksie: | Good advice: @lindsey_leavitt Sherman Alexie addressed this at LASCBWI last year: Know your brand, but don’t let it define you #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | shimes06: | #kidlitchat oh it’s not just my inner voices than that are schizo? RT @jennymckmoss: Sometimes I do wish the (cont) http://tl.gd/1tcq89 |
| 1:55 am | lindsey_leavitt: | @nataliewhipple Fake connectors always make me feel icky, like knowing me will help them at all. #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @TracyClark_TLC I know I do. Part of why consistency as a writer is so important! Must please the fans! #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | PaulWHankins: | Just wrapping up conversation with @Poh, and I thought I sensed someone talking about cupcakes. Someone has these. . .cupcakes? #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | gregpincus: | @erinbowbooks I like @thewritermama‘s definition of platform: http://bit.ly/lGej2 #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | bonnieadamson: | @DDHearn But you market yourself: yyour web site has a “look,” etc. #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | srjohannes: | i think there’s a balance-authors should have a way 2 B recognized – if U R all over the place – readers dont knw wht 2 expect. #kidlitchat |
| 1:55 am | Inksie: | ABSOLUTELY @nataliewhipple: It pisses me off whn I feel like Im being used as “networking connection” instead of as a person. #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | micolz: | can i add red vines to the mix? #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | hatbooks: | RT @gregpincus: I like @thewritermamas definition of platform: http://bit.ly/lGej2 #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | DDHearn: | An nonfiction author I worked with wrote a fiction PB that publisher rejected because she had branded the author nonfiction. #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | gregpincus: | @micolz I agree completely. It’s not forced. She handles herself fabulously. But there is a brand there. #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | nataliewhipple: | @bethrevis Yes. You are definitely a sprinkles kind of cupcake. Oh wait, YOU’RE not a cupcake. Getting carried away… #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | jenfos: | @delzey that’s the brand of an artist. #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | MariahDeMarco: | RT @kellyhashway: @TracyClark_TLC I think that’s exactly it. It’s about quality. #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | EgmontUSA: | @PaulWHankins That was @Vordak who tricked you again. Us minions, so gullible! #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | shimes06: | #kidlitchat if we are going to be having cupcakes, then this chat has to be in person!! I want cuppies!! |
| 1:56 am | heatherayris: | @bonnieadamson Well at least I’m in time for desert! #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | MariahDeMarco: | @kellyhashway and trust I think too #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | pippinmathur: | @DDHearn agreed! For illust. your style = your brand. It is what you bring. Less about you, more about what you can do. #kidlitchat |
| 1:56 am | deegarretson: | I’ve heard branding talks at conferences but come away with a sense it just sounds like a good topic for a talk, not very useful #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | SheviStories: | James Patterson, I think, proves branding doesn’t limit writers. He wrote the Maximum Ride MG series. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | erinbowbooks: | I hope that in my writing I come across as to spend fictional time with – even if I want to drive to the fictional dump. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | DDHearn: | @bonnieadamson Yes, my website has a look….very outdated! #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | MariahDeMarco: | @DawnRaeMiller absolutely, and quality & the ease of working with you is all part of it too.. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | nataliewhipple: | @jenfos I like friends. Especially friends who bring me cupcakes. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | bonnieadamson: | @heatherayris Good timing! #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | Brent_Watson41: | @EgmontUSA To be honest, @Vordak scares me. I have no idea what it is, but felt compelled to follow it. #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | Inksie: | Takehome: Brand isnt smthing u can force. Its wat ur readers expect of u wen they buy ur books. Know ur brand but dont stress it #kidlitchat |
| 1:57 am | bonnieadamson: | @DDHearn Well, that’s a whole diffferent topic! #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | DDHearn: | @pippinmathur But what do you do if you have different styles that have all been published? #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | adamselzer: | There’s a whole “cupcakes and Jane Austen” school of YA lit, isn’t there? ::::goes off to start making notes…. #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | srjohannes: | ie:if u write YA paranormal u dont want a web site w/ducks onit (unless its a duck shapeshifter) It doesnt match.Knw wht I mean? #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | jenfos: | @nataliewhipple now that you’ve totally hijacked the topic, I’m thinking red velvet cupcake with cream cheese frosting. #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | kellyhashway: | @SheviStories And that series is amazing. I love the voice. #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | EgmontUSA: | @Brent_Watson41 @Vordak is the world’s greatest Supervillain. His guide to world domniation will release this August. #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | pippinmathur: | @bonnieadamson @DDHearn a good future topic! #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | Inksie: | @SheviStories Yes but Patterson’s Maximum Ride series was still quinessentially Patterson #kidlitchat |
| 1:58 am | MariahDeMarco: | RT @srjohannes -if U R all over the place -readers dont knw wht 2 expect. #kidlitchat {very true} |
| 1:58 am | erinbowbooks: | @SheviStories James Patterson *is* a brand, isn’t he? I mean, I assume it’s not just one person writing that stuff. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | DDHearn: | I admit I wish there was a different word for brand. It just sounds so commercial and cold to me. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | bonnieadamson: | @DDHearn Your brand can be “diversity”! (Why not?) #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | micolz: | @gregpincus i guess that makes it a good example of how branding can develop on its own, naturally? #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | MichelleHodkin: | @SheviStories but you aren’t going to find a Stephenie Meyer voice or plot in ANY of James Patterson’s books. i.e. branding. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | ErinDealey: | Is @Vordak still haunting us? @EgmontUSA @PaulWHankins tricked you again. Us minions, so gullible! #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | OfKingsAndGods: | @DDHearn see.. so it’s entirely possible to be branded whether you like it or not. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | Inksie: | LOL! RT @DDHearn @bonnieadamson Yes, my website has a look….very outdated! #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | PaulWHankins: | @Brent_Watson41 @Vordak is not that scary. He looks like K.I.T.T. had a lovechild with a fork. His head is a “branding” iron. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | Brent_Watson41: | @EgmontUSA OK, so he’s a he, and I guess I was right to fear him. Thanks for clearing that up. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | bonnieadamson: | @pippinmathur Tell me about–I’ve been working on a new web site for almost a year,now. #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | srjohannes: | @erinbowbooks james patterson is a country now – isnt it? #kidlitchat |
| 1:59 am | kellyhashway: | @erinbowbooks He co-authors so many books that I wonder about that, too. #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | jenfos: | @DDHearn Image and style have been banged around #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | kapybara: | RT @srjohannes: ie:if u write YA paranormal u dont want a web site w/ducks onit (unless its a duck shapeshifter) It doesnt match.Knw wht I mean? #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | Inksie: | @nataliewhipple *pelts you with cupcakes* #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | adamselzer: | @erinbowbooks Most of his books are “by James Patterson AND ____.” As I understand it, it’s mostly the ______ #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | EgmontUSA: | @erinbowbooks I think most in the industry would agree that James Patterson IS the brand. #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | micolz: | ok, now i need snacks. #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | nataliewhipple: | @jenfos My car’s name is Red Velvet, so I approve of this. And HIJACKED? I have no idea what you’re talking about… #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | DDHearn: | @bonnieadamson Maybe it could work. I always try to suit illustrations to the story…but one style would be easier. #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | ErinDealey: | @EgmontUSA You and @EgmontGal must resist the urge to bow down to him. #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | OfKingsAndGods: | @srjohannes exactly #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | Inksie: | Preceisely, it’s organic. @micolz @gregpincus i guess that makes it a good example of how branding can develop on its own? #kidlitchat |
| 2:00 am | gregpincus: | @micolz Well, it takes effort not just “naturally.” John Green made videos for a year and stuff “naturally” came from it. #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | MichelleHodkin: | @erinbowbooks (it isn’t, he has a stable of co-writers) #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | kellyhashway: | @adamselzer I think they are noticeably different from the ones he writes alone. #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | bonnieadamson: | @DDHearn I hear you there. I’d love to settle down, myself. #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | EgmontUSA: | @PaulWHankins I thought you’d made progress. You know he’s going to make you pay for that one. Dearly. #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | nataliewhipple: | @Inksie *licks frosting off arms* #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | micolz: | @Brent_Watson41 I feel like your students would LOVE @Vordak! #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | amyknichols: | @kapybara Are duck shapeshifters the next trend? I’m on it! *scrambles to write a plot outline* #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | jenfos: | @nataliewhipple can you tell I was kid in school that went along with the fun, and never was in trouble for it. Innocent smile. #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | Brent_Watson41: | @PaulWHankins I like K.I.T.T. I eat with forks sometimes, usually when I’m not using a spoon. Maybe @Vordak isn’t so bad. #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | MariahDeMarco: | I think U have to establish yourself in whatever genre ur best at, and once you have a following they will b very open.. #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | srjohannes: | RT @gregpincus Well, it takes effort not just “naturally.” John Green made videos for a year and stuff “naturally” came from it. #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | jenfos: | @MichelleHodkin to be in a stable with other co-writers. Is that a good brand? #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | MichelleHodkin: | Bwahaha. Love you. RT @srjohannes: @erinbowbooks james patterson is a country now – isnt it? #kidlitchat |
| 2:01 am | peg366: | @DDHearn Do you have a favorite style? Maybe do two websites? #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | ErinDealey: | @BonnieAdamson I think when you said “warap it up” they thought you meant the dessert… #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | micolz: | @gregpincus yes, maybe that wasn’t quite the right word. maybe i mean “honest,” or “authentic.” #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | EgmontUSA: | @ErinDealey Oh no. We are but his lowly minions. #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | MariahDeMarco: | 2 u trying different things, even if it’s very different from where you started #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | DDHearn: | @bonnieadamson Right now I’m trying to figure out a style for my own PB. It’s excruciating. Wish I had no choice! #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | kellyhashway: | Time for me to sign out. Great chat, everyone. #kidlitchat |
| 2:02 am | Inksie: | A ‘brand’ isn’t something you create, it’s something you develop. It’s only partially deliberate, or its forced & fake #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | Brent_Watson41: | @micolz Sounds like they wouldn’t have a choice. @Vordak would force them to like him. How does everyone know about @Vordak? #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | bonnieadamson: | @ErinDealey Dessert to go–that works,too! #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | shimes06: | RT @Inksie: A ‘brand’ isn’t something you create, it’s something you develop. It’s only partially deliberate, or its forced & fake #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | DDHearn: | @peg366 Yipes! Good idea, but I can’t even keep up with one website. Maybe separate pages for different styles, though. #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | ErinDealey: | @EgmontUSA Arise, minions–arise! #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | gregpincus: | @micolz Yes, honest and authentic is key. No question. But it is cultivated, too, don’t you think? #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | Inksie: | @nataliewhipple Forget the cupcakes, let’s head straight to frosting. *flings frosting at you then licks the spoon* #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | erinbowbooks: | In business your brand promise flows from what you do, not the other way around. Writers should remember that too. #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | DDHearn: | RT @Inksie: A brand isnt something you create, its something you develop. Its only partially deliberate, or its forced & fake #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | MichelleHodkin: | @jentos I think it could be hard to break out if you’re a co-writer. But didn’t Gayle Lynds do that w/ the Bourne books? #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | peg366: | @kellyhashway Bye Kelly #kidlitchat |
| 2:03 am | bonnieadamson: | @DDHearn Have yet to work out a style for any pb I’ve written–hopeless. I think the two are separate functions for me #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | MariahDeMarco: | RT @srjohannes: RT @gregpincus Well, it takes effort not just “naturally.” John Green made videos for a year and stuff “naturally” came from it. #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | jenfos: | @gregpincus agreed.be yourself, but think about what you are doing. #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | peg366: | @DDHearn That would work. Different pages I mean. #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | PaulWHankins: | To further demonstrate the idea of a “brand.” James Patterson has his own Ning. 45,500 members as of right now. #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | srjohannes: | @bethrevis @nataliewhipple @lindseyleavitt CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME TALKING? Or have i been kicked out of the cool table. #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | SheviStories: | Sounds like branding means writing the same thing ad nauseum. #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | bonnieadamson: | @gregpincus My husband thinks it’s hilarious that people find me postive & upbeat online . . .:-) #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | DDHearn: | When I think of branding I always envision some poor steer getting his rear burned with a hot branding iron. Hmmm… #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | erinbowbooks: | Wait, you have minions? Did you brand them? You know, in case they get loose. #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | delzey: | “authentic” is another one of those words whose definition shifts from person to person. e.g. “authentic voice” to whom? #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | Brent_Watson41: | @micolz My students loved SO PUNK ROCK. One liked it so much she stole it. #kidlitchat |
| 2:04 am | micolz: | @Brent_Watson41 he is an @EgmontUSA character! Solidarity, yo. Also, I fear him. #kidlitchat |
| 2:05 am | amyknichols: | @bonnieadamson Really?! #kidlitchat |
| 2:05 am | nataliewhipple: | @Inksie Excellent plan. #kidlitchat |
| 2:05 am | Inksie: | RT @erinbowbooks In business your brand promise flows from what you do, not other way around. Writers should remember that too. #kidlitchat |
| 2:05 am | SheviStories: | @srjohannes I can hear you on Twitter, not Tweetchat. #kidlitchat |
| 2:05 am | DDHearn: | @SheviStories I agree with you, Shevi. What if you want to write different types of things? #kidlitchat |
| 2:05 am | PaulWHankins: | http://myjamespatterson.com/ Never mind that my avatar is on mainpage. This happens when you log onto the site. I’m not active. #kidlitchat |
| 2:05 am | micolz: | @gregpincus fair enough. there are things i would say IRL that i wouldn’t say online/professionally. branding? prolly. #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | literaticat: | I am going to afterparty at Verlettes bc Speakeasy is down. Come join me: http://www.verlakay.com/chat.html #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | DDHearn: | @SheviStories By the way, I luv your sad sack vamp robot. #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | dosankodebbie: | @erinbowbooks I’d follow you just for the food convo. In fact I just did. #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | MariahDeMarco: | @srjohannes I’m def. on the same page as you.. I *do think it takes some thought and effort.. 2 be successful anyway.. #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | jenfos: | @micolz I also seem to believe that if it comes out of my mouth and is wrong – it might get forgotten. Online is forever. #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | Brent_Watson41: | @micolz You called @Vordak a character? Is that cool? Might want to watch your back now. #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | erinbowbooks: | @srjohannes I hear you in tweetchat and you can sit by me at the math &classics geek table. We are not cool, but have pretzels. #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | nataliewhipple: | @srjohannes Hmm? I’m kinda new at this! 1st timer here! No intentional cool table exclusion. By “cool” you meant “dork,” right? #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | PaulWHankins: | @erinbowbooks @Vordak doesn’t really have minions. Bunions? Maybe, but no minions. He tries to make me feel bad all of the time. #kidlitchat |
| 2:06 am | Inksie: | #kidlitchat has been fun tonight. Look it up for a great discussion on the concept of branding as an author. |
| 2:06 am | DaveSeow: | @DDHearn exactly #kidlitchat |
| 2:07 am | shimes06: | #kidlitchat #kidlitchat I <3 @vordak does that make me a bad person? Am i now on a secret blackballed list? Hahaha |
| 2:07 am | ErinDealey: | Agree! @Inksie @erinbowbooks In business yr brand flows fr what you do, not other way around. Writers should remember that too. #kidlitchat |
| 2:07 am | sarablarson: | How long did u guys (authors w/ pub deals) expect 2 wait vs. how long it actually took to get ur offer(s) when on sub 2 editors? #kidlitchat |
| 2:07 am | Inksie: | *flings final glob of frosting at the #kidlitchat room* I gots to go. Thanks for a great discussion, everyone! |
| 2:07 am | DDHearn: | Here’s my two cents about cupcakes. When I lived in NYC chocolate chip cookie stores were everywhere. This too shall pass. #kidlitchat |
| 2:07 am | bonnieadamson: | @amyknichols My writing voice doesn’t really match my illustration style, unfortunately. #kidlitchat |
| 2:08 am | reverieBR: | What’s the topic? #kidlitchat |
| 2:08 am | srjohannes: | @nataliewhipple i knew if i stamped my feet I’d get some attention. Oh sorry – that’s my 3 yr old. I got confused. #kidlitchat |
| 2:08 am | jenfos: | @DDHearn Chocolate chip cookies will never pass. Bwa Ha Ha #kidlitchat |
| 2:08 am | MariahDeMarco: | @srjohannes I suppose a brand would come wether you tried to create one or not.. but that’s not always a good thing.. #kidlitchat |
| 2:08 am | erinbowbooks: | @DDHearn I’d rather have the cookies — but I don’t chase trends! #kidlitchat |
| 2:08 am | DDHearn: | @bonnieadamson I have that same trouble at times, Bonnie. I guess we’ll have to let others illustrate sometimes! #kidlitchat |
| 2:08 am | amyknichols: | @bonnieadamson Your writing voice is dark and gritty and grouchy and angry? *taps chin* Fascinating… #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | srjohannes: | @erinbowbooks pretzels? Did natalie eat all the cupcakes? #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | MariahDeMarco: | @srjohannes I dont think b/c you’ve thought about it that you are being fake. #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | DDHearn: | @reverieBR Topic was branding, and has now been branded as cupcakes. #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | hatbooks: | Thanks for thoughts re. branding, platform and online presence. Hope to discuss further with SCBWI Tokyo members! #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | ErinDealey: | Nite all–nice chatting. Have to go search for cup cakes now–or donuts–some kind of brand anyway.. #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | reverieBR: | HAHAHA RT @DDHearn: @reverieBR Topic was branding, and has now been branded as cupcakes. #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | bonnieadamson: | @DDHearn I think it would be a relief, almost–don’t you? I think I’d be totally fine with that. #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | micolz: | @Brent_Watson41 Aw! Love it! #kidlitchat |
| 2:09 am | amyknichols: | I love how kidlitchats always evolve (devolve?) to food. #kidlitchat |
| 2:10 am | srjohannes: | @MariahDeMarco it needs 2 b thought out. u dont want to stumble upon a brand. It might not b the the way you want 2b positioned. #kidlitchat |
| 2:10 am | micolz: | @Brent_Watson41 @Vordak I meant it as a compliment! #kidlitchat |
| 2:10 am | nataliewhipple: | Well, this has been lovely. *ninjas all the cupcakes* Poof. #kidlitchat |
| 2:10 am | DDHearn: | @bonnieadamson Hey, if someone wanted my story without my art, that would be ok, if a bit of an ego smack. #kidlitchat |
| 2:10 am | gregpincus: | Thanks to all for the cupcake filled, branding #kidlitchat. Transcript will be up sooooooooon! |
| 2:10 am | erinbowbooks: | @srjohannes We like cupcakes. They are an authentic medieval food, and they help us with our topology homework. #kidlitchat |
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