Kidlitchat Transcript – January 25

2:01 am bonnieadamson: TOPIC: It’s time for our State of the Business chat. Is it bleak? Rosy? How do you assess your own contribution? #kidlitchat
2:01 am laurielyoung: Hi all! Will be popping in and out cause I want to watch the Pres’s speech. #kidlitchat
2:01 am debbieohi: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: Its time for our State of the Business chat. Is it bleak? Rosy? How do you assess your own contribution? #kidlitchat
2:01 am LM_Preston: 9pm TOPIC: It’s time for our State of the Business chat. Is it bleak? Rosy? How do you assess your own contribution? #kidlitchat
2:02 am f_rancesca: I actually thought all the posts today coming out of #dbw were really encouraging about the world of books. Optimistic even! #kidlitchat
2:02 am gregpincus: @laurielyoung oh, sure. set your priorities all crazy-like. Be that way :-) #kidlitchat
2:03 am joelmalley: RT @thereadingzone: Send your unwanted ARCs and review copies to classroom libraries. More info here http://bit.ly/i20Q3a #ARCsFloatOn #kidlitchat #yalitchat
2:03 am debbieohi: I’m still packing for #ny11scbwi (flight tomorrow a.m.), so will have to skip #kidlitchat tonight :-( . #kidlitchat
2:03 am laurielyoung: @gregpincus Maybe he’ll keep it short! ;D Besides, I am good at multitasking! #kidlitchat
2:03 am f_rancesca: Sorry, just in case #dbw = Digital Book World conference http://dbw2011.digitalbookworld.com/ #kidlitchat
2:03 am debbieohi: Hope to see some of you soon, though! #kidlitchat
2:03 am debbieohi: Like @bonnieadamson YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY #kidlitchat
2:04 am bonnieadamson: @f_rancesca I agree that signs are optimistic–but big upheavals coming via self-pu options, ebooks, etc. #kidlitchat
2:04 am kellyhashway: @debbieohi Oh, I’m jealous. Have a great time! #kidlitchat
2:04 am debbieohi: @f_rancesca See you soon, too, I hope! #kidlitchat
2:04 am laurielyoung: @debbieohi Can’t make it this year :( have fun for the rest of us! #kidlitchat
2:04 am bonnieadamson: @debbieohi I’m so ecited I’m about to frow up. :-D #kidlitchat
2:04 am gregpincus: @debbieohi I’m jealous of you #ny11scbwi folks, I must say. Have a blast! #kidlitchat
2:05 am f_rancesca: @debbieohi @bonnieadamson I know – I’m excited to see you both in person! #kidlitchat
2:05 am LM_Preston: I can’t go either, wish they had skype, lol! #kidlitchat
2:05 am scottneumyer: Evening all! What’s the topic tonight? #kidlitchat
2:05 am LM_Preston: @scottneumyer TOPIC: It’s time for our State of the Business chat. Is it bleak? Rosy? How do you assess your own contribution? #kidlitchat
2:06 am f_rancesca: @bonnieadamson There’s usually such an aura of concern when discussing ebooks & so on that I found the tweets today v heartening #kidlitchat
2:06 am bonnieadamson: @f_rancesca @debbieohi–we’ll have tocarve out some time for a tweet-up! #kidlitchat
2:06 am scottneumyer: Business is changing and booming! I see great things all around for 2011! #kidlitchat
2:06 am gregpincus: @f_rancesca I’ve never understood the concern about Ebooks. It’s just another way to get work seen. #kidlitchat
2:06 am WendyMartinArt: @gregpincus Spent afternoon reading back issues of PW. It’s all about the ebook #kidlitchat
2:07 am KateMessner: One thing I’ve noticed re:state of publishing industry. Due to cuts, editors who remain have more on their plates than ever. #kidlitchat
2:07 am adamselzer: If the writing business is bleak, I don’t think it’s much bleaker than it’s been since…well, since time out of mind. #kidlitchat
2:07 am LM_Preston: Ebooks is just another form of media to sell the written word. I think it’s a good thing, and I love ebooks now. #kidlitchat
2:07 am scottneumyer: @gregpincus @f_rancesca couldn’t agree more! Just a bigger pie for everyone to take pieces of. It’s a good thing for all! #kidlitchat
2:08 am f_rancesca: @gregpincus That’s exactly my point :) Another format is actually a GOOD thing. People will read things they wouldn’t otherwise. #kidlitchat
2:08 am kellybarnhill: Hiya, #kidlitchat! So we’re talking business, are we? hmmm. *rummages in closet for business suit* *attempts to look impressive* #kidlitchat
2:08 am scottneumyer: @adamselzer do we have to band the #formerfirebranders back together again tonight? LOL #kidlitchat
2:08 am KatGirl_Studio: @gregpincus I don’t understand it either. #kidlitchat
2:08 am LM_Preston: Any form of publishing needs a good product, marketing, and open possibilities. At the end of the day, the word is ‘sell’ #kidlitchat
2:09 am deegarretson: trying to multitask tonight, not sure how good I’ll be at it #kidlitchat
2:09 am elanaroth: State of the Business? You mean like…how much it sucks right now? #kidlitchat
2:09 am LM_Preston: @deegarretson Me too, I’m supposed to be editing, lol #kidlitchat
2:09 am kellybarnhill: @gregpincus Agreed. Whenever the model changes, there’s always some friction, but massive opportunities, too. #kidlitchat
2:09 am thunderchikin: Maaaaaybe. RT @scottneumyer: @adamselzer do we have to band the #formerfirebranders back together again tonight? LOL #kidlitchat
2:09 am LM_Preston: @ReadingEcstasy Hey! on #kidlitchat now
2:09 am KatGirl_Studio: I think things are rosy. Working on one PB and just got a request to illustrate another. Also YA novel coming out soon =^.^= #kidlitchat
2:09 am scottneumyer: Speaking as someone pretty entrenched in the eBook world, trust me when I say it’s a good thing for everyone. #kidlitchat
2:09 am tinatoler: Hi, I’m late but managed to show up. #kidlitchat
2:10 am LM_Preston: @KatGirl_Studio Yay! That’s great, DM me the link. #kidlitchat
2:10 am tinatoler: @elanaroth that doesn’t sound encouraging #kidlitchat
2:10 am KendraHighley: Outlook? It’s so-so. I also think the categories (MG v YA) are narrowing, w/ YA trending older & MG younger. Is it just me? #kidlitchat
2:10 am gregpincus: @kellybarnhill Yes. I like looking at the changes as opportunities rather than as roadblocks. Cuz, like, they’re coming anyway. #kidlitchat
2:10 am f_rancesca: I think the biggest virtual slap I felt recently was visiting the slushpile over at @NathanBransford‘s blog. So. Much. Writing. #kidlitchat
2:10 am AmberKim2010: RT @elanaroth: State of the Business? You mean like…how much it sucks right now? #kidlitchat
2:10 am KatGirl_Studio: @LM_Preston oh to which? #kidlitchat
2:10 am scottneumyer: @elanaroth leave it to elana to sour our grapes! It’s rosy!! Heheh #kidlitchat ;)
2:11 am PaulWHankins: Lurking/multi-tasking. Good evening, #kidlitchat. Good to see you all again. Okay, back to my hiding place. Don’t look behind the big plant.
2:11 am kellyhashway: @KatGirl_Studio Congrats! That’s great. #kidlitchat
2:11 am scottneumyer: @thunderchikin @adamselzer yesssssss!! #kidlitchat
2:11 am elanaroth: I was kind of half-kidding, guys… #kidlitchat
2:11 am LM_Preston: @KatGirl_Studio All of them :-D want a guest spot on my blog? Would love to have you #kidlitchat
2:11 am f_rancesca: @KendraHighley That’s interesting. I hadn’t thought of it like that at all. Maybe new category opening up. YYA? #kidlitchat
2:11 am gregpincus: @elanaroth suckage , you say? Please say more. But, ya know, in what way doth it suck? #kidlitchat
2:12 am KatGirl_Studio: @LM_Preston sure, I’ll DM you later #kidlitchat
2:12 am readingecstasy: @LM_Preston Hey. I’m already lurking in a corner watching the #kidlitchat tweets.
2:12 am adamselzer: I feel like YA is kind of back to being a genre most (not all) older readers shy away from; MG is a wild card. #kidlitchat
2:12 am f_rancesca: @KendraHighley or OMG (Old Middle Grade)? :) #kidlitchat
2:12 am elanaroth: It’s getting harder to sell certain kinds of books. Scope has narrowed to even more commercial. No more midlist. #kidlitchat
2:12 am jennymosswrites: YA trending 2 adult? MG to YA? RT @KendraHighley: I also think the categories (MG v YA) r narrowin w/ YA trending older, MG yngr #kidlitchat
2:13 am LM_Preston: I believe there is a midlist, but it is competitive, but wasn’t it always? #kidlitchat
2:13 am jennymosswrites: @elanaroth That makes me very sad. #kidlitchat
2:13 am scottneumyer: @elanaroth I know. I was full kidding ;) #kidlitchat
2:13 am kellybarnhill: @f_rancesca I’m totally stealing that! “Old Middle Grade” – you’re referring to the writers, right? :-) #kidlitchat
2:13 am tinatoler: I personally love reading YA books. All parents with teens should – gives ya something to discuss with the kids #kidlitchat
2:13 am KatGirl_Studio: @KendraHighley yes a lot more adults reading YA #kidlitchat
2:14 am sarahockler: RT @tinatoler: I personally love reading YA books. All parents with teens should – gives ya something to discuss with the kids #kidlitchat
2:14 am LM_Preston: @tinatoler I read YA books with my daughter. We’ve found some great ones and some surprises #kidlitchat
2:14 am KristaAshe: RT @elanaroth: It’s getting harder to sell certain kinds of books. Scope has narrowed to even more commercial. No more midlist. #kidlitchat
2:14 am f_rancesca: @kellybarnhill Oh, um, yes! That’s exactly who I meant. Indeedy! ;) #kidlitchat
2:14 am adamselzer: The more YA looks like “the twilight genre,” the more certain kinds of readers stay away from the whole section. #kidlitchat
2:14 am PaulWHankins: RT @tinatoler: I personally love reading YA books. All parents with teens should – gives ya something to discuss with the kids #kidlitchat
2:14 am scottneumyer: @KatGirl_Studio @kendrahighley just wait until Hunger Games hits theaters in 2012! :) #kidlitchat
2:14 am TaraLarsenChang: @KatGirl_Studio Oh -congrats on the rosy-colored news! #kidlitchat
2:15 am frankisibberson: RT @tinatoler: I personally love reading YA books. All parents with teens should – gives ya something to discuss with the kids #kidlitchat
2:15 am geceosan: RT @sarahockler: RT @tinatoler: I personally love reading YA books. All parents with teens should – gives ya something to discuss with the kids #kidlitchat
2:15 am LaurelSnyder: hey, all! #kidlitchat
2:15 am elanaroth: The two things editors ask for are: “commercial/literary blend,” and “timeless but fresh.” Unicorns. They want unicorns. #kidlitchat
2:15 am KatGirl_Studio: also publishers trending towards new things. One of mine is letting me share my process as I create the book. #kidlitchat
2:15 am gregpincus: RT @elanaroth: It’s getting harder to sell certain kinds of books. Scope has narrowed to even more commercial. No more midlist. #kidlitchat
2:15 am f_rancesca: RT @adamselzer: The more YA looks like “the twilight genre,” the more certain kinds of readers stay away from the whole section. #kidlitchat
2:15 am scottneumyer: @sarahockler @tinatoler yay! Sarah’s here! #kidlitchat
2:15 am LM_Preston: Best way to determine trends is to look at upcoming releases. Get a list and you will be surprised #kidlitchat
2:15 am tinatoler: @LM_Preston @tinatoler My girls & I still talk about books we read a year ago. I love them. Makes me feel young again #kidlitchat
2:15 am KatGirl_Studio: @scottneumyer didn’t read it, it’s not my thing #kidlitchat
2:15 am gregpincus: Do you think @elanaroth that it’s a swinging pendulum? Or do you think that the economics have changed for good? #kidlitchat
2:16 am kellybarnhill: @adamselzer I think that’s largely true. But, many die-hard genre fans are reading YA because their fav authors are writing YA #kidlitchat
2:16 am f_rancesca: @elanaroth I’m totally running with ‘timeless but fresh.’ Cheeky immortals. #kidlitchat
2:16 am jennymosswrites: @elanaroth Do you say that because editors are asking for more commercial, or sense it because so much midlist turned down? #kidlitchat
2:16 am sarahockler: @scottneumyer @tinatoler I’m spying. :-) Hi guys! #kidlitchat
2:16 am tennisketter: RT @elanaroth: The two things editors ask for are: “commercial/literary blend,” and “timeless but fresh.” Unicorns. They want unicorns. #kidlitchat
2:16 am elanaroth: @gregpincus I’m not sure. I’m willing to go with pendulum. But we’ll see. #kidlitchat
2:16 am LM_Preston: @tinatoler Yes they do, opens up issues for discussion. My daughter freaked out when one book had a sister /brother crush thing #kidlitchat
2:16 am scottneumyer: @elanaroth who DOESN’T want unicorns?! ;) #kidlitchat
2:16 am LaurelSnyder: @elanaroth What on earth is commercial/literary? Books that get stars and then sell well? How to predict THAT? #kidlitchat
2:16 am sarahockler: @LM_Preston Surprises are good! What kind of surprises? I’m still seeing lots of dystopian. #kidlitchat
2:16 am elanaroth: @jennymosswrites I say it because books bought at midlist-size advances don’t succeed in the market b/c they get no support. #kidlitchat
2:16 am PaulWHankins: RT @adamselzer: The more YA looks like “the twilight genre,” the more certain kinds of readers stay away from the whole section. #kidlitchat
2:17 am geceosan: RT @sarahockler: @LM_Preston Surprises are good! What kind of surprises? I’m still seeing lots of dystopian. #kidlitchat
2:17 am gregpincus: @elanaroth. Darn. I was hoping you knew for sure, cuz I won’t know til years from now :-) #kidlitchat
2:17 am RuckusMedia: I’m getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #kidlitchat
2:17 am elanaroth: @LaurelSnyder Bingo. High concept and high-end writing. #kidlitchat
2:17 am amy_m_young: RT @adamselzer: The more YA looks like “the twilight genre,” the more certain kinds of readers stay away from the whole section. #kidlitchat
2:17 am LM_Preston: @sarahockler Oh, well I was talking about steampunk novels, a lot are coming out and we are starting to get into them #kidlitchat
2:17 am TheAsianAngel: #kidlitchat I notice that the more popular MG (with a few exceptions) is more serious/darker material.
2:17 am tinatoler: @sarahockler @scottneumyer @tinatoler Hi Sarah. Girls and I LOVED Twenty Boys of Summer!!!! #kidlitchat
2:17 am sarahockler: @LM_Preston Steampunk is cool, I’m just starting to get into it. #kidlitchat
2:17 am kellybarnhill: @LaurelSnyder @elanaroth And can the world please drop “literary” as a type-name please. Cuz, yanno, it’s meaningless. #kidlitchat
2:17 am KendraHighley: LOLOL — I love it! RT @f_rancesca or OMG (Old Middle Grade) #kidlitchat
2:18 am LaurelSnyder: @elanaroth Sigh… #kidlitchat
2:18 am scottneumyer: We should probably remind everyone: DO NOT write to trends. They disappear before you’ll even be published. #kidlitchat
2:18 am RuckusMedia: We are late but glad to be here #kidlitchat
2:18 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio I’m sure that’s possible but really, The Hunger Games is top of the line What don’t like about it? #kidlitchat @scottneumyer
2:18 am RebeccAgent: I’m kinda here but mostly listening to Barack #Kidlitchat
2:18 am elanaroth: @kellybarnhill @LaurelSnyder What? No. I like the term “literary” just fine. #kidlitchat
2:18 am laurapauling: RT @ElanaRoth: It’s getting harder to sell certain kinds of books. Scope has narrowed to even more commercial. No more midlist. #kidlitchat
2:18 am kellybarnhill: @elanaroth Well that’s GREAT news! *digs out unicorn novel written in fifth grade* Here ya go world! #kidlitchat
2:18 am LM_Preston: We are trying to read new things together, stretch a bit. She also post her reviews on my blog. It’s a way we bond #kidlitchat
2:19 am molly_oneill: Hey #kidlitchat: giving a shout-out to a new blog from a kids/MG/YA book designer at Abrams. GOOD STUFF HERE: http://bit.ly/e9W7hv
2:19 am LaurelSnyder: My new book is heading into from lower MG into upper MG turf. I’ve been thinking a lot about the cliff of YA. #kidlitchat
2:19 am adamselzer: @MoonlightReview about 95% of the readers my books were intended for. #grumblinglikeanoldfart #kidlitchat
2:19 am DanaElmendorf: @scottneumyer Write what fuels your imagination I say. #kidlitchat
2:19 am elloecho: @LaurelSnyder I was told by agent and editor that my book was comm/lit cause it is historical and has demons + lots of violence. #kidlitchat
2:19 am jennymosswrites: @elanaroth This midlist author is even more sad. #kidlitchat
2:19 am elanaroth: I didn’t mean they literally want unicorn books…please don’t send me unicorn books. #kidlitchat
2:19 am RebeccAgent: I would love for everyone to check out my post today at Blue Rose Girls (would give link but don’t know how on iPad) #Kidlitchat
2:19 am f_rancesca: @kellybarnhill @elanaroth I’m all about the unicorns. Unicorns with SPARKLES! #kidlitchat
2:19 am LaurelSnyder: @kellybarnhill @elanaroth Oh! I have one too. It’s called THE UNICORN WINDOW. Based on a book I read called THE UNICORN WINDOW. #kidlitchat
2:19 am lisabrowndraws: But where do booksellers shelf upper MG? seems a sticky category #kidlitchat @laurelSnyder
2:19 am JennBailey: @RebeccAgent me too! Love me #kidlitchat but it’s the Prez!
2:20 am deegarretson: @elanaroth I wondered about that, I posted a list of all 2010 MG debuts I could think of, don’t know how many got support #kidlitchat
2:20 am LM_Preston: Trends for sales set what sells, if you track them, they always come back .Vamps and Zombies, Dystopians been around 4ever #kidlitchat
2:20 am elanaroth: @jennymosswrites As are my midlist clients and I. Hugely sad. Kills me. #kidlitchat
2:20 am KateMessner: @LaurelSnyder I’ve been creeping a little older, too – EYE OF THE STORM will be 10+ as opposed to 8-12 for SUGAR & ICE. #kidlitchat
2:20 am JennBailey: RT @elanaroth: I didn’t mean they literally want unicorn books…please don’t send me unicorn books. #kidlitchat
2:20 am adamselzer: @elanaroth in my next one they save the day using a wells fargo wagon full of unicorn crap. Kind of a gamble on my part. #kidlitchat
2:20 am sarahockler: @deegarretson Would love to see the list – do you have the link? #kidlitchat
2:20 am bookaliciouspam: @lisabrowndraws @laurelSnyder We have an in between section lower MG, upper MG and then YA.. #kidlitchat
2:20 am scottneumyer: @DanaElmendorf exactly! #kidlitchat
2:20 am thebookbarr: Lurking at #Kidlitchat while watching the State of the Union.
2:21 am LaurelSnyder: @KateMessner @LaurelSnyder Interesting. Bigger than a Breadbox is about a 12 year old girl, but it’s kinda grittier too. #kidlitchat
2:21 am elanaroth: @adamselzer Hahahaha. #kidlitchat
2:21 am LM_Preston: I write MG and YA, but have friends that write kidlit. They’ve upped their personal marketing efforts it helps #kidlitchat
2:21 am tinatoler: @sarahockler @LM_Preston I feel really stupid…what is steampunk #kidlitchat
2:21 am stevenmalk: It’s encouraging that both the Caldecott & Newbery went to first timers. There are still good examples of sleeper books working.#kidlitchat
2:21 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy don’t like dystopian at all or most post-apocalyptic #kidlitchat
2:21 am gregpincus: @rebeccagent I tweeted the link to your post earlier today: http://bit.ly/eI4qGg #kidlitchat
2:21 am f_rancesca: While on the one hand, writers ought to be informed, a certain amount of stubborn denial might be called for here. #kidlitchat
2:21 am deegarretson: @sarahockler I’d love to have a more complete list, so please comment if you know of some I’ve missed. http://bit.ly/edMDAt #kidlitchat
2:22 am bookaliciouspam: I like the rising contemporary trend I am seeing at the bookstore and bookclubs I run for kids. #kidlitchat
2:22 am lisabrowndraws: @BookaliciousPam Do kids/parents know how to find? Seems all historical fict is being skewed younger if not sexy. #kidlitchat
2:22 am kellybarnhill: @ElanaRoth @LaurelSnyder I’m a teacher. The word alters so much from when we *teach* books and when we’re *selling* books. #kidlitchat
2:22 am RebeccAgent: Thanks @gergpincus #Kidlitchat
2:22 am hpinski: I’m late! topic? #kidlitchat
2:22 am LM_Preston: @tinatoler scifi element involves an era or world where steam power is still widely used #kidlitchat
2:22 am tinatoler: Any opinions on YA and MG books regarding emotional issues in today’s market? #kidlitchat
2:22 am bookaliciouspam: @lisabrowndraws well it is up to us, I ask the kid how old are you, tell me your 3 most favorite books ever. #kidlitchat
2:22 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy it’s not anything against the book, I know a lot of people like it. It’s just not my cup of tea. #kidlitchat
2:22 am Chumplet: RT @RebeccAgent I would love for everyone to check out my post today at Blue Rose Girls http://tinyurl.com/2dvzy7t #kidlitchat
2:22 am PaulWHankins: @tinatoler 21st Century Possibilities Meets 19th Century Sensibilities=Steampunk. Think Wild, Wild West. #kidlitchat
2:23 am jennymosswrites: RT @stevenmalk: Its encouraging that both Caldecott & Newbery went to 1st timers – good examples of sleeper books working #kidlitchat
2:23 am bookaliciouspam: @lisabrowndraws I tend to lead the younger YA’s to upper MG quite a lot. #kidlitchat
2:23 am f_rancesca: By which I mean, if knowledge breeds fear, and our fear of failure keeps us from writing, pop goes the industry altogether. #kidlitchat
2:23 am TributeEverdeen: RT @tinatoler: I personally love reading YA books. All parents with teens should – gives ya something to discuss with the kids #kidlitchat
2:23 am lisabrowndraws: What was the best answer ever? RT @BookaliciousPam: tell me your 3 most favorite books ever. #kidlitchat
2:23 am RebeccAgent: In blog I spoke to the kind of manuscripts I’m looking for, which hopefully speaks in part to what our business is looking for #Kidlitchat
2:23 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio I wouldn’t describe it as the usual dystopian fare. #kidlitchat
2:23 am f_rancesca: @thebookbarr Hi! *waves* #kidlitchat
2:23 am PaulWHankins: @tinatoler I have a small sample of YA readers in Room 210, and I am telling you, emotional issue books are a HUGE draw. #kidlitchat
2:23 am WendyMartinArt: RT @RebeccAgent: In blog I spoke to the kind of manuscripts I’m looking for, which hopefully speaks in part to what our business is looking for #Kidlitchat
2:23 am newfirewithin: @adamselzer Ugh. I’d be one of those readers. #kidlitchat
2:23 am KatGirl_Studio: @PaulWHankins I heart steampunk, one reason I perform at the Dickens fair =^.^= #kidlitchat
2:23 am sarahjanestudio: @molly_oneill what’s the topic tonight? Gotta dig in! #kidlitchat
2:24 am tinatoler: @PaulWHankins That’s good news. That’s what I enjoy writing about. #kidlitchat
2:24 am lisabrowndraws: We call those “books about people with problems.” RT @PaulWHankins: I am telling you, emotional issue books are a HUGE draw. #kidlitchat
2:24 am LM_Preston: Write a novel, keep writing, querying until you find your market. Nothing’s changed except widening possibilities #kidlitchat
2:24 am JohanneLightXD: RT @LaurelSnyder: My new book is heading into from lower MG into upper MG turf. I’ve been thinking a lot about the cliff of YA. #kidlitchat
2:24 am tinatoler: @PaulWHankins working on YA now regarding a suicide. Emotionally difficult to write. #kidlitchat
2:24 am KendraHighley: So is anyone else seeing that the MG and YA markets are narrowing? Is it hard to place a “straddler?” (old MG/young YA) #kidlitchat
2:24 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy what can I say I read the back copy and it didn’t interest me. Might change my mind after the movie. #kidlitchat
2:25 am jennymosswrites: @LaurelSnyder @KateMessner I have theory that my protagonists have aged with my kids. :) #kidlitchat
2:25 am scottneumyer: @sarahjanestudio @molly_oneill state of the business! #kidlitchat
2:25 am sarahockler: @RebeccAgent The link – http://www.bluerosegirls.blogspot.com/ #kidlitchat
2:25 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy I know it did for Harry Potter and Twilight #kidlitchat
2:25 am PaulWHankins: @lisabrowndraws Thanks, Lisa. I am not really here. I’m reading tonight. Can’t put the book down for too long. Captivated. #kidlitchat
2:25 am I_am_Writing: RT @lisabrowndraws: We call those “books about people with problems.” RT @PaulWHankins: I am telling you, emotional issue books are a HUGE draw. #kidlitchat
2:25 am bkshelfdetectiv: @RebeccAgent @gergpincus I think you mean @gregpincus :-) in case you want him to receive your thank you. #kidlitchat
2:25 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio Not trying to pressure you or anything (well, maybe a teeny bit) bt it’s standout. Maybe one day… #kidlitchat
2:25 am DanaElmendorf: @sarahjanestudio @molly_oneill I think about reading YA/MG with your teens/tweens but we seem to be off topic #kidlitchat
2:25 am rymacj: this may be a really stupid question…but could someone pls explain “midlist” to me? #kidlitchat
2:25 am RuckusMedia: @cwilson82985 #kidlitchat – check in at tweetgrid.com.
2:25 am bookaliciouspam: Sara Pennypacker told my daughter “People write books about people with problems, don’t have a problem not interesting” #kidlitchat
2:25 am jennymosswrites: RT @PaulWHankins:I have a small sample of YA readers in Room 210, and I am telling you, emotional issue books are a HUGE draw. #kidlitchat
2:26 am lisabrowndraws: So nice to hear. Many kids missing out thinking they are too old. RT @BookaliciousPam: tend to lead younger YA’s to upper MG. #kidlitchat
2:26 am PaulWHankins: @tinatoler Suicide in YA can be done, and has been done well, even when it seemed to push the envelope. 13 Reasons Why. #kidlitchat
2:26 am HornBook: Before we dismiss the viability of midlist, look at the Newbery and Honors this year–midlist all. #kidlitchat
2:26 am scottneumyer: RT @LM_Preston: Write a novel, keep writing, querying until you find your market. Nothing’s changed except widening possibility. #kidlitchat
2:26 am PaulWHankins: RT @lisabrowndraws: We call those “books about people with problems.” RT @PaulWHankins: I am telling you, emotional issue books are a HUGE draw. #kidlitchat
2:26 am KatGirl_Studio: @lisabrowndraws I thought those were called “issue books” ? #kidlitchat
2:26 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio Twilight movie mania only further discouraged me from reading the books. HP, one day. HG isn’t like those. #kidlitchat
2:26 am tinatoler: @PaulWHankins @tinatoler Awesome book. My daughter had me read it. #kidlitchat
2:26 am f_rancesca: RT @LM_Preston: Write a novel, keep writing, querying until you find your market. Nothings changed except widening possibility. #kidlitchat
2:27 am f_rancesca: RT @HornBook: Before we dismiss the viability of midlist, look at the Newbery and Honors this year–midlist all. > YES YES YES! #kidlitchat
2:27 am RebeccAgent: Please excuse iPad typos Greg and all #Kidlitchat
2:27 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy well I’m a huge fan of both so #kidlitchat
2:27 am KateMessner: RT @HornBook: Before we dismiss the viability of midlist, look at the Newbery and Honors this year–midlist all. #kidlitchat
2:27 am tinatoler: RT @rymacj: this may be a really stupid question…but could someone pls explain “midlist” to me? #kidlitchat
2:27 am I_am_Writing: @DreamingReviews There’s a #kidlitchat going on right now, why don’t you stop by. :D
2:27 am LM_Preston: @ReadingEcstasy I read 2 of the books…sorta, but loved the movie, except the unhealthy tragic suicidal moment #kidlitchat
2:27 am DanaElmendorf: My husband and son read Lightning Thief together. Got my son to enjoy reading. #kidlitchat
2:28 am angie_frazier: RT @HornBook: Before we dismiss the viability of midlist, look at the Newbery and Honors this year–midlist all. #kidlitchat
2:28 am stevenmalk: Agreed, Roger! RT @HornBook Before we dismiss the viability of midlist, look at the Newbery and Honors this year–midlist all. #kidlitchat
2:28 am LM_Preston: @DanaElmendorf Our whole family read it on a 14 hour road trip, lol! #kidlitchat
2:28 am jennymosswrites: RT @HornBook: Before we dismiss the viability of midlist, look at the Newbery and Honors this year–midlist all. #kidlitchat
2:28 am amylovestrees: As someone that works w/teens and has MG offspring -I see lots of crossover w/MG and YA in both directions. #kidlitchat
2:28 am DreamingReviews: I am told to stop by #kidlitchat Hi everyone!
2:28 am scottneumyer: @readingecstasy @katgirl_studio the difference is that the Twilight books are horribly written. LOL #kidlitchat
2:28 am adamselzer: Midlist is books that they publish, but don’t really promote. They sort of count on winning awards to take off. #kidlitchat
2:28 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy I’m more of a fantasy/urban fantasy kind of person oh and steampunk #kidlitchat
2:28 am tinatoler: @DreamingReviews hi and welcome! #kidlitchat
2:29 am jimsissy: RT @RebeccAgent: I would love for everyone to check out my post today at Blue Rose Girls http://twurl.nl/6u6mz8 #kidlitchat
2:29 am jennymosswrites: Thank you to our librarians, teachers, and indies for championing midlist — #kidlitchat
2:29 am tinatoler: @adamselzer thanks for explaining. Still lots to learn #kidlitchat
2:29 am RebeccAgent: @stevenmalk @hornbook can we place the weight of saving the mid list on awards? #Kidlitchat
2:29 am KatGirl_Studio: @scottneumyer I’m pretty sure that’s a manner of opinion. #kidlitchat
2:29 am elanaroth: RT @adamselzer: Midlist is books that they publish, but dont really promote. They sort of count on winning awards to take off. #kidlitchat
2:29 am lisabrowndraws: We need more awards, then RT @adamselzer: Midlist is books they publish, They sort of count on winning awards to take off. #kidlitchat
2:29 am kellybarnhill: We are so LUCKY to be writing now. Every day I hang out with book-hungry kids. We live in an amazing age for kids’ literature #kidlitchat
2:29 am rymacj: @adamselzer ahh, I see. thanks! #kidlitchat
2:29 am DanaElmendorf: @LM_Preston Great idea. I’ll remember that the next time we travel. #kidlitchat
2:29 am I_am_Writing: RT @elanaroth: RT @adamselzer: Midlist is books that they publish, but dont really promote. They sort of count on winning awards to take off. #kidlitchat
2:29 am geceosan: RT @PaulWHankins: @tinatoler Suicide in YA can be done, and has been done well, even when it seemed to push the envelope. 13 Reasons Why. #kidlitchat
2:29 am Viklets: RT @HornBook: Before we dismiss the viability of midlist, look at the Newbery and Honors this year–midlist all. #kidlitchat
2:29 am f_rancesca: Oooh everyone loves what @hornbook posted. See? Optimism! *pats sparkly unicorn* Can’t let self get too depressed or poof. #kidlitchat
2:29 am KatieDavisBurps: RT @jennymosswrites: Thank you to our librarians, teachers, and indies for championing midlist — #kidlitchat
2:31 am elloecho: @TheAsianAngel AMEN! #kidlitchat
2:31 am thebookbarr: RT @f_rancesca Everyone loves what @hornbook posted. Optimism! *pats sparkly unicorn* Can’t let self get too depressed or poof. #kidlitchat
2:31 am paulgreci: RT @lisabrowndraws: RT @kellybarnhill We are so LUCKY to be writing now. Every day I hang out with book-hungry kids. An amazing age for kidlit.>YES! #kidlitchat
2:31 am Georgia_McBride: RT @RileyCarney: Great post on using big words in middle-grade books by @susankayequinn http://ow.ly/3JULb #kidlit #kidlitchat #yalitchat
2:31 am stevenmalk: I think other “midlist” books have emerged and become successful without awards. #kidlitchat
2:31 am KateMessner: “Midlist” is a term often misunderstood – This blog post from @literaticat is a great reality check: http://bit.ly/cIXYSM #kidlitchat
2:31 am ClaireCaterer: @TheAsianAngel Right on, sister! BTW, just joining, I hope for a little bit! #kidlitchat
2:32 am KatGirl_Studio: @TheAsianAngel exactly! #kidlitchat
2:32 am LM_Preston: @DreamingReviews He loves ebooks and now reads comics on ipod touch. He read the shortie zombie books – but w/ me #kidlitchat
2:32 am KatieDavisBurps: What’s the topic tonight? #kidlitchat
2:32 am scottneumyer: @KatGirl_Studio it is? Doesn’t anybody really think the Twilight series is WELL WRITTEN? Don’t mean entertaining. Well written. #kidlitchat
2:32 am KatieDavisBurps: RT @TheAsianAngel: #kidlitchat You know what? Even if the state of books was in the toilet, we’d still keep writing. Because that’s what we do.
2:32 am DanaElmendorf: @kellybarnhill THat’s a good one too! #kidlitchat
2:32 am DreamingReviews: @LM_Preston YA/MG is all about pacing these days. You need to write a good story while keeping the book flowing. #kidlitchat
2:32 am WendyMartinArt: @gregpincus I have no idea what else I could do! #kidlitchat
2:32 am gregpincus: @DreamingReviews successful chiming. And yes, books can be helped by good exposure… though I’d love more specific examples #kidlitchat
2:33 am thunderchikin: RT @KateMessner: “Midlist” is a term often misunderstood – This blog post from @literaticat reality check: http://bit.ly/cIXYSM #kidlitchat
2:33 am Chumplet: @stevenmalk What makes publishers decide what will be midlist & what will get the royal treatment? #kidlitchat
2:33 am RebeccAgent: I think blogs and word of mouth has really helped certain books that would have been mid list & primed them for awards #Kidlitchat
2:33 am rllafevers: RT @KateMessner: “Midlist” isoften misunderstood-This blog post from @literaticat is a great reality check: http://bit.ly/cIXYSM #kidlitchat
2:33 am scottneumyer: @kellybarnhill @danaelmendorf LOVE Spiderwick! #kidlitchat
2:33 am stevenmalk: @KatieDavisBurps Katie, it’s sort of a state of the business chat. #kidlitchat
2:33 am gregpincus: @WendyMartinArt I am working on my juggling skills so that I can have a backup career option. #kidlitchat
2:33 am LM_Preston: @scottneumyer There’s lots of times you watch a movie or read just for a soft romance, a meaningless adventure that is 4 ride #kidlitchat
2:33 am BarbFerrer: Hey #kidlitchat– coming in after lots of pizza– what’s tonight’s topic?
2:33 am j_ro333: @ElanaRoth #kidlitchat I’ve got this unicorn book I’ve been meaning to tell you about. The Loneliest Unicorn. Born without a horn.So sad. :)
2:33 am LaurelSnyder: I have to share something: My son is sick, & sitting beside me, finding sight words (for the first time EVER) in my tweetchat! #kidlitchat
2:33 am DreamingReviews: @LM_Preston Has he tried some guy-aimed reads like the upcoming RED MOON RISING or YOU DON’T KNOW ME? #kidlitchat
2:33 am bookaliciouspam: @RebeccAgent I agree! Take ten of the bigger bloggers agreeing on the same book and pumping it up. Something will happen. #kidlitchat
2:33 am scottneumyer: Midlist can easily rise above if you know how to do killer PR and Marketing on your own. :) #kidlitchat
2:34 am WendyMartinArt: @gregpincus Old dogs… #kidlitchat
2:34 am thereadingzone: Hey authors! I’m collecting photos of writer’s notebooks for a blog post during @ShareaStory. Can you send me a picture? #kidlitchat
2:34 am f_rancesca: RT @KateMessner “Midlist” is often misunderstood. This post from @literaticat is a great reality check http://bit.ly/cIXYSM<tks! #kidlitchat
2:34 am adamselzer: @scottneumyer Well, mkng Bella such a blank slate that most readrs could imagine they were her…was it intentional? Can’t be ez #kidlitchat
2:34 am scottneumyer: RT @stevenmalk: I think other “midlist” books have emerged and become successful without awards. #kidlitchat
2:34 am elloecho: @scottneumyer Not every book has to be beautifully written. If they are entertaining they are well written. #kidlitchat
2:34 am LM_Preston: @DreamingReviews That’s true, my 13yr old always mentions when a book is slow in her reviews, lol #kidlitchat
2:34 am f_rancesca: @LaurelSnyder That is really, truly cool. I love watching kids learn to read. It’s like watching the sun come up. #kidlitchat
2:34 am DanaElmendorf: @scottneumyer @KatGirl_ Wwell written? Maybe not on literary scale but doesn’t entrtn’ing say something abt how it was written? #kidlitchat
2:35 am gregpincus: @LaurelSnyder #kidlitchat as educational opportunity. No surprise there :-)
2:35 am DreamingReviews: @gregpincus I try to get LGBTQ YA out in the open…to some authors one review has meant increased sales almost immediately. #kidlitchat
2:35 am stevenmalk: Very good post. RT @KateMessner: This blog post from @literaticat is a great reality check: http://bit.ly/cIXYSM #kidlitchat
2:35 am LM_Preston: @DreamingReviews That’s all he reads, but prefers short stories and comics for quick satisfaction. #kidlitchat
2:35 am KateMessner: RT @thereadingzone: Authors:I’m collecting photos of writers notebooks 4 blog post during @ShareaStory. Can u send me a picture? #kidlitchat
2:35 am jennymosswrites: Writers have to b optimists, so can hang in there when news bleak. Never thot I’d get a novel pub’d – now I have 3 out #canbdone #kidlitchat
2:35 am scottneumyer: @LM_Preston agreed! And that’s why they sell. They’re entertaining as hell. But well written? I defy anyone to say that! LOL. #kidlitchat
2:35 am PaulWHankins: RT @f_rancesca: @LaurelSnyder That is really, truly cool. I love watching kids learn to read. It’s like watching the sun come up. #kidlitchat
2:36 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy I’m also really fond of historical and historical retellings #kidlitchat
2:36 am DreamingReviews: @LM_Preston I like the occasional slow read but if you aren’t a good writer or established then YA will not be pleased w/slow… #kidlitchat
2:36 am LM_Preston: @scottneumyer Hey, I would love to have a hot vamp and sexy werewolf wanting me…badly, and not dating anyone else on the side #kidlitchat
2:36 am ClaireCaterer: @f_rancesca @LaurelSnyder I used to teach reading to ESL 1st-2d graders. Fantastic! #kidlitchat
2:36 am PaulWHankins: RT @RebeccAgent: I think blogs and word of mouth has really helped certain books that would have been mid list & primed them for awards #Kidlitchat
2:36 am paulgreci: RT @stevenmalk: Very good post. RT @KateMessner: This blog post from @literaticat is a great reality check: http://bit.ly/cIXYSM #kidlitchat
2:36 am gregpincus: @DreamingReviews That’s great. Trusted sources definitely lead to sales. #kidlitchat
2:36 am elloecho: @scottneumyer @LM_Preston I defy you and say it is well written. It was well written enough to become a megahit. #kidlitchat
2:36 am srolutola: RT @stevenmalk: Very good post. RT @KateMessner: This blog post from @literaticat is a great reality check: http://bit.ly/cIXYSM #kidlitchat
2:36 am jennymosswrites: RT @stevenmalk: I think other “midlist” books have emerged and become successful without awards. #kidlitchat
2:36 am stevenmalk: @Chumplet Lots of factors that are ultimately beyond our control. I just say write the very best book you can. #kidlitchat
2:36 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy or stories where fantasy collides with our word like Spiderwick and the Olympians #kidlitchat
2:37 am tinatoler: @DreamingReviews @gregpincus I think LGBT is a huge thing now. Love seeing books about it. Are they well accepted in industry? #kidlitchat
2:37 am BarbFerrer: RT @stevenmalk: @Chumplet Lots of factors that are ultimately beyond our control. I just say write the very best book you can. #kidlitchat
2:37 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio Greek Myths? Roman Colosseum? HG. HG. HG. #kidlitchat
2:37 am elanaroth: For the record, I think midlist is a fine place to be. Just be prepared to bust your ass. #kidlitchat
2:37 am fiteach: Love it! RT @LaurelSnyder: My son is sick, & sitting beside me, finding sight words (for the first time EVER) in my tweetchat! #kidlitchat
2:37 am DreamingReviews: @LM_Preston True. Manga is a little meatier than regular comics and helps reading more…the write book can do wonders. #kidlitchat
2:37 am DanaElmendorf: @elloecho @scottneumyer @LM_Preston “well written” subjective. “Literary” is more accurate. IMO. #kidlitchat
2:37 am kelcrocker: @LaurelSnyder very cool about your son and the sight words! #kidlitchat
2:37 am j_ro333: This reminds me of the 70s in the movie biz. Filmmakers led the revolution, not the execs. Spielberg, Lucas, Altman, DePalma,etc #kidlitchat
2:37 am LM_Preston: @elloecho I didn’t say it wasn’t well written, it did have an editor, but I can say I not much of a scene person #kidlitchat
2:37 am f_rancesca: RT @stevenmalk: @Chumplet Lots of factors are ultimately beyond our control. I say write the very best book you can > Hear hear! #kidlitchat
2:37 am LaurelSnyder: Selling well is not a sign of literary merit. It *can* be a sign of savvy marketing. But also, you know.. porn sells well too. #kidlitchat
2:37 am BarbFerrer: @ElanaRoth Yeah, but there’s an argument that “true” midlist (for whatever that means) is disappearing. #kidlitchat
2:37 am scottneumyer: @DanaElmendorf @katgirl_ but well written is a whole other story. I love me some good popcorn at times too but that’s all it is. #kidlitchat
2:37 am adamselzer: @LM_Preston @scottneumyer See, I don’t even think they’re entertaining, but they’re masterful at manipulating hormones. #kidlitchat
2:37 am DreamingReviews: @gregpincus The other thing that works is steady author promotion. Not too much, but a few steady guest posts/ect do great. #kidlitchat
2:38 am rllafevers: RT @elanaroth: For the record, I think midlist is a fine place to be. Just be prepared to bust your ass. #kidlitchat
2:38 am bookaliciouspam: Let us not forget graphic novels. For those boys who bring their little sisters in rolling eyes, leave with a Percy graphic. #kidlitchat
2:38 am paulgreci: RT @stevenmalk @Chumplet Lots of factors that are ultimately beyond our control. I just say write the very best book you can. #kidlitchat
2:38 am KatGirl_Studio: @scottneumyer berating someone into agreeing with you is not going to get you what you want #kidlitchat
2:38 am LM_Preston: Selling well is what we all truly strive for, or we wouldn’t try to get it pub, right? #kidlitchat
2:38 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio HG was inspired by the fun-scary ancient stories. With a little scifi surprise toward the end. #kidlitchat
2:38 am PaulWHankins: RT @bookaliciouspam: Let us not forget graphic novels. For those boys who bring their little sisters in rolling eyes, leave with a Percy graphic. #kidlitchat
2:38 am Chumplet: @stevenmalk Thank you. I just know something will give eventually. #kidlitchat
2:38 am thunderchikin: RT @elanaroth: For the record, I think midlist is a fine place to be. Just be prepared to bust your ass. #kidlitchat
2:38 am DreamingReviews: @tinatoler @gregpincus Not really. I see it some in bigger publishers but it’s usually angsty/coming out story. #kidlitchat
2:38 am j_ro333: It is our job, the authors and agents, to take charge – uncover the way to best utilize e-books, apps, and emerging tech. #kidlitchat
2:38 am jennymosswrites: @LaurelSnyder lol #kidlitchat
2:38 am DanaElmendorf: @LaurelSnyder I think selling well = entertaining. #kidlitchat
2:39 am ClaireCaterer: @tinatoler I just copyedited a fantastic LGBT YA book for a NY publisher. The editor was quite excited about it. #kidlitchat
2:39 am DreamingReviews: @tinatoler @gregpincus We really need to get the point where genre fic with an LGBTQ MC is okay in mainstream. #kidlitchat
2:39 am jennymosswrites: Yes, that’s true. RT @elanaroth: For the record, I think midlist is a fine place to be. Just be prepared to bust your ass. #kidlitchat
2:39 am elanaroth: @BarbFerrer Well, that’s true. Fewer books get bought at midlist prices. It’s either go big or go home in lot of cases. #kidlitchat
2:39 am LaurelSnyder: @DanaElmendorf Oh, sure. And Jersey Shore is entertaining. Boobs are entertaining. Fart jokes. Some things can be trusted. #kidlitchat
2:39 am readingecstasy: @scottneumyer I’ve heard many people say that abt Twilight. #kidlitchat
2:39 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy no you misunderstan. I don’t like that part of mythology i like the fantasy part ie things that shouldn’t exist #kidlitchat
2:39 am tinatoler: @ClaireCaterer @tinatoler I am really glad to hear that. Doing a LGBT blog and getting good responses. #kidlitchat
2:39 am DanaElmendorf: @LM_Preston Good point. No one is screaming, “I want to be published but I don’t care if I sell a single book.” #kidlitchat
2:39 am bookaliciouspam: @DreamingReviews @tinatoler @gregpincus Ash, Huntress by Malinda Lo. It’s LGBT and mainstream. #kidlitchat
2:40 am j_ro333: That means not only writing killer books, but understanding sales, marketing, and PR and also understanding your audience. #kidlitchat
2:40 am elloecho: @LM_Preston @elloecho Sorry I don’t think that reply was to you specifically! #kidlitchat
2:40 am I_am_Writing: Very good point! RT: @LaurelSnyder #kidlitchat
2:40 am tinatoler: @bookaliciouspam @DreamingReviews @tinatoler @gregpincus Girls and I will check it out! #kidlitchat
2:40 am scottneumyer: RT @adamselzer: @LM_Preston @scottneumyer See, I don’t even think they’re entertaining, but they’re masterful at manipulating hormones. #kidlitchat
2:40 am gregpincus: @DreamingReviews We haven’t reached that point yet for LGBTQ. Or, I suspect, for a lot of other areas. But progress is good! #kidlitchat
2:40 am LM_Preston: @ElanaRoth: @BarbFerrer The publishers want to get paid, can’t say I blame them for trying for A sure thing #kidlitchat
2:40 am BarbFerrer: @ElanaRoth It really does seem to be the case & I think it’s driving a lot of newbie authors to try to chase the market. #kidlitchat
2:40 am kellybarnhill: @LaurelSnyder That comment totally WINS. #kidlitchat
2:40 am DreamingReviews: @ClaireCaterer Really? Could you mention what it is? :D I have an entire day a week on the blog for LGBTQ YA. #kidlitchat @tinatoler
2:40 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio It’s in there. Why won’t you trust me? =P #kidlitchat
2:41 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio I do believe you’ll like The Dark Griffin #kidlitchat
2:41 am DanaElmendorf: @scottneumyer LOL. Agreed. Twilight is kettle corn done right. :) #kidlitchat
2:41 am WendyMartinArt: RT @HUnderdown: RT @hornbook: Before we dismiss the viability of midlist, look at the Newbery and Honors this year–midlist all. #kidlitchat
2:41 am LM_Preston: @elloecho No worries :-D #kidlitchat
2:41 am DreamingReviews: @BookaliciousPam @tinatoler @gregpincus It’s the exception, though. Great to be there – not at all common. #kidlitchat
2:41 am elanaroth: @BarbFerrer Yes, and driving us agents crazy who think starting at certain advance sizes is the RIGHT place to start a career. #kidlitchat
2:41 am scottneumyer: @KatGirl_Studio oh I’m not. Everyone is welcome to their opinion on it. I’m not yelling. Just stating. :) #kidlitchat
2:41 am kellybarnhill: @LaurelSnyder Exactly, which is why it’s important that we resist trying to “read” the marketplace. #kidlitchat
2:41 am HornBook: @RebeccAgent @stevenmalk I don’t think midlist is actually in trouble as a category. It’s just surrounded by more competition #kidlitchat
2:41 am robin_talley: I think “huge” is too strong a word, but definitely increasing… RT @tinatoler: LGBT is a huge thing now. Love seeing it. #kidlitchat
2:41 am bookaliciouspam: @DreamingReviews @BookaliciousPam @tinatoler @gregpincus it is becoming more accepted and these first mainstream are important. #kidlitchat
2:41 am srolutola: RT @adamselzer: The more YA looks like “the twilight genre,” the more certain kinds of readers stay away from the whole section. #kidlitchat
2:41 am BarbFerrer: @LM_Preston @ElanaRoth But that’s just it– there is no such thing as a “sure thing” in pub. But pubs can def. smooth the way. #kidlitchat
2:41 am DreamingReviews: @gregpincus Nope. Sad but true. Small presses are working towards it (Prizm, Featherweight, Flux, Cheyenne) and it’s a start. #kidlitchat
2:42 am scottneumyer: RT @DanaElmendorf: @scottneumyer LOL. Agreed. Twilight is kettle corn done right. :) #kidlitchat
2:42 am jennymosswrites: @elanaroth The funny (kind of) thing is that if you’re midlist, then you’re doing more promoting, & therefore less writing. #kidlitchat
2:42 am bookaliciouspam: Another LGBT just released Shadowwalkers from Flux. #kidlitchat
2:42 am srolutola: @adamselzer I can’t tell you how many people side-eye me when I say I write YA just b/c ppl assume I’m writing Twilight +_____ #kidlitchat
2:42 am DreamingReviews: @BookaliciousPam @tinatoler @gregpincus They are. I wish more people would look at small presses – some great genre fic there! #kidlitchat
2:42 am ClaireCaterer: @DreamingReviews @tinatoler Not sure what the protocol is, if I’m supposed to say. But give me the blog URL& I’ll keep U posted. #kidlitchat
2:42 am KatGirl_Studio: @readingecstasy what’s that? never heard of it. #kidlitchat
2:42 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio I am a huge fan of fantastical #LoveinFictionAvoidinReality stories. The Dark Griffin should do it for you. #kidlitchat
2:43 am BarbFerrer: @ElanaRoth *headdesk* Oy. I always tell newbies, “Educate yourselves abt. what’s going on in the market. Be realistic.” #kidlitchat
2:43 am elanaroth: @jennymosswrites Yeah, but I don’t have a problem with that. How many books can you really put out in a short timespan? #kidlitchat
2:43 am srolutola: RT @elanaroth: The two things editors ask for are: “commercial/literary blend,” and “timeless but fresh.” Unicorns. They want unicorns. #kidlitchat
2:43 am LM_Preston: RT @BarbFerrer: @LM_Preston @ElanaRoth True, but if you were a pub and had to shell out $ to print/promo what would u buy? #kidlitchat
2:43 am LaurelSnyder: @kellybarnhill Ya, we write best book we can & accept some things will just sell better than others #thenmaybeputboobsonthecover #kidlitchat
2:43 am stevenmalk: I think the biggest issue facing us is the belief some people have that there’s a formula to what does and doesn’t sell. #kidlitchat
2:43 am jasouders: RT @elanaroth: The two things editors ask for are: “commercial/literary blend,” and “timeless but fresh.” Unicorns. They want unicorns. #kidlitchat
2:43 am andrewauseon: RT @LaurelSnyder: Selling well is not a sign of literary merit. It *can* be a sign of savvy marketing. But also, you know.. porn sells well too. #kidlitchat
2:43 am bonnieadamson: RT @stevenmalk: I think the biggest issue facing us is the belief some people have that there’s a formula to what does and doesn’t sell. #kidlitchat
2:43 am elanaroth: @BarbFerrer Me too, lady. Me too. #kidlitchat
2:43 am DreamingReviews: @ClaireCaterer http://dreaminginbooks.blogspot.com My email is on there as well if you need it. ^_^ #kidlitchat @tinatoler
2:43 am tinatoler: @ClaireCaterer @DreamingReviews @tinatoler don’t know if you meant me but mine is www.itswhoiam.org #kidlitchat
2:43 am kellybarnhill: In the end, we all just have to write the books we truly, deeply, madly love. That’s it. And if we’re lucky, it’ll pay the bills #kidlitchat
2:43 am adamselzer: @srolutola Man, you’re tellin’ me! I wrote a twilight satire that everyone saw and assumed was a knockoff. Caught HELL on blogs. #kidlitchat
2:44 am KatGirl_Studio: @kellybarnhill exactly! #kidlitchat
2:44 am elanaroth: @stevenmalk Right. Like really…who the hell knows? #kidlitchat
2:44 am DreamingReviews: @BookaliciousPam It looks interesting but have heard it’s meh – plus Brent Hardinger is established like Julie Ann Peters. #kidlitchat
2:44 am scottneumyer: Maybe if we all @reply her we can get my wonderful agent @awebman to join us since she finally joined twitter! :) #kidlitchat
2:44 am LM_Preston: @adamselzer Okay, why when I sent out request for ARC reviews Book Blogs said upfront – no Vamps/Werewolves allowed? #kidlitchat
2:44 am DreamingReviews: RT @elanaroth: The two things editors ask for are: “commercial/literary blend,” and “timeless but fresh.” Unicorns. They want unicorns. #kidlitchat
2:44 am jennymosswrites: @elanaroth My last one we went from premise to ARC in six months. It was a *lot* of work. #kidlitchat
2:44 am BarbFerrer: @LM_Preston True. But the danger then is oversaturation & a deterioration in quality as people rush to put out what’s popular. #kidlitchat
2:44 am gregpincus: @stevenmalk What’s fascinating is that folks have thought that forever. And it’s never been true. #kidlitchat
2:44 am ClaireCaterer: RT @kellybarnhill: In the end, we all just have to write the books we truly, deeply, madly love. | Yup. In a nutshell. #kidlitchat
2:44 am j_ro333: There will always be a need for midlist. Utilizing emerging tech will deliver the product to the largest possible audience. #kidlitchat
2:45 am MarthaGouws: RT @RebeccAgent: I think blogs and word of mouth has really helped certain books that would have been mid list & primed them for awards #Kidlitchat
2:45 am elanaroth: @jennymosswrites Yeah, yeah. I just mean…what’s a healthy publication schedule? A book a year? More? Less? That’s all… #kidlitchat
2:45 am tinatoler: RT @kellybarnhill: In the end, we all just have to write the books we truly, deeply, madly love. | Yup. In a nutshell. #kidlitchat
2:45 am readingecstasy: @KatGirl_Studio http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9069880-the-dark-griffin #kidlitchat
2:45 am I_am_Writing: RT @tinatoler: RT @kellybarnhill: In the end, we all just have to write the books we truly, deeply, madly love. | Yup. In a nutshell. #kidlitchat
2:45 am LM_Preston: @BarbFerrer True, but that’s business. It’s unfortunate, but they have to stay afloat. #kidlitchat
2:45 am KateMessner: @jennymosswrites Wow! I didn’t realize your timeline was that quick – hats off to you, lady. And it is a beautiful book. #kidlitchat
2:45 am LaurelSnyder: @elanaroth @stevenmalk Just God and Oprah, it would seem. #kidlitchat
2:46 am sarahockler: RT @stevenmalk: I think the biggest issue facing us is the belief… that theres a formula to what does and doesnt sell. #kidlitchat
2:46 am stevenmalk: @gregpincus People are proven wrong again and again but they want to hold on to the belief that there is indeed a formula. #kidlitchat
2:46 am MirandaKennealy: RT @stevenmalk: I think the biggest issue facing us is the belief some people have that there’s a formula to what does and doesn’t sell. #kidlitchat
2:46 am elanaroth: @LaurelSnyder @stevenmalk Yeah, and I’m putting my money on Oprah. #kidlitchat
2:46 am KatGirl_Studio: @LaurelSnyder what what? I must have missed something. #kidlitchat
2:46 am WendyMartinArt: @jefishere I hear you there. I’m following on Twitter and watching Star Trek and monitoring #kidlitchat
2:47 am BarbFerrer: @LM_Preston I guess all we can hope for is a happy medium. I’d just love to see more variety on the shelves. #kidlitchat
2:47 am LM_Preston: Has there ever been a true sales formula? I don’t think it’s been observed. Like which publisher produces most Best Sellers? #kidlitchat
2:47 am DreamingReviews: @adamselzer *wince* I don’t know how they could miss the satire. Was it like the almost too-satirical Fat Vampire? #kidlitchat
2:47 am jennymosswrites: @KateMessner Thanks! I was going to talk to u this weekend about you writing a blog post on how you get so much done. Seriously! #kidlitchat
2:47 am amandahoving: @BonnieAdamson Coming in late, but from initial question I WANT to say rosy. Oh, yes. Now, I’ll read thru & see if others agree #kidlitchat
2:47 am gregpincus: @elanaroth @stevenmalk @laurelsnyder Well, if God had a book club, that’d probably help sales a lot. Just sayin’ #kidlitchat
2:47 am readingecstasy: @adamselzer @LM_Preston @scottneumyer Haven’t read Twilight but that’s how I feel about many books #kidlitchat
2:47 am LM_Preston: @BarbFerrer There is on the shelves of the internet :-D #kidlitchat
2:47 am MoonlightReview: @adamselzer Yeah i walk a fine line. Between twilight and not. #kidlitchat
2:47 am KatGirl_Studio: @WendyMartinArt Ooo which one? #kidlitchat
2:47 am LaurelSnyder: @KatGirl_Studio I don’t know what that was in ref too.. Ack! #kidlitchat
2:47 am PaulWHankins: RT @KateMessner: @jennymosswrites Wow! I didn’t realize your timeline was that quick – hats off to you, lady. And it is a beautiful book. #kidlitchat
2:48 am KatieDavisBurps: I’d like to know how many copies sold does a midlist make? Is there a number? #kidlitchat
2:48 am KateMessner: @jennymosswrites I keep two clones in my basement. #kidlitchat
2:48 am RebeccAgent: All of us do need to remember that publishing is a business. Hopefully we’re all in it b/c we have passion for books… #Kidlitchat
2:48 am tinatoler: What is your POV on small ebook publishing companies? Good idea or bad? #kidlitchat
2:48 am DanaElmendorf: @stevenmalk @gregpincus No formula but maybe if you’re an Outlier then you stand a better chance? #notreallyserious #kidlitchat
2:48 am f_rancesca: I’m just going to keep writing. About zombie farting unicorns wearing jet packs and eating popcorn. #kidlitchat
2:48 am WendyMartinArt: @KatGirl_Studio Moriarty #kidlitchat
2:48 am BarbFerrer: @LM_Preston LOL touch�. But I do love bookstores. <izLuddite> #kidlitchat
2:48 am adamselzer: @DreamingReviews I dunno either – any other year it would probably at least be obvious that it was a comedy. Guess not, though. #kidlitchat
2:48 am LaurelSnyder: @gregpincus @elanaroth @stevenmalk @laurelsnyder She does. I guess *you* aren’t in the “in” crowd. #goingtohell #kidlitchat
2:48 am elanaroth: @gregpincus @stevenmalk @laurelsnyder Hey. God gets credit for that bestselling book called the Bible, but I think he jacked it. #kidlitchat
2:48 am KatGirl_Studio: @LaurelSnyder about God and Opara #kidlitchat
2:48 am bonnieadamson: @amandahoving my first reaction, too. :-) #kidlitchat
2:48 am RebeccAgent: But that passion does not drive / shape the industry alone #Kidlitchat
2:48 am BarbFerrer: @f_rancesca I smell bestseller! LOL #kidlitchat
2:48 am kellybarnhill: @stevenmalk Secret formulas, secret handshakes. People want a simple answer. And there is one! Work hard; write well; hope. #kidlitchat
2:48 am LM_Preston: @tinatoler Romance sells great with small epub companies. But other products not so much-of course distribution matters #kidlitchat
2:48 am jennymosswrites: @KateMessner lolol – I *have* always suspected. I may be making a trip over to your basement. #kidlitchat
2:49 am adamselzer: @DreamingReviews but among blog reviews, I’d say about 20% picked up on the satire. All of the trades did, though. #kidlitchat
2:49 am thebookbarr: @f_rancesca I’ll read that. #kidlitchat
2:49 am LaurelSnyder: @KatGirl_Studio LOL. Just that if you have enough pull, you CAN predict a trend, b/c you can make one… #kidlitchat
2:49 am DreamingReviews: @LM_Preston I don’t think so. Things go in and out of style – it seems almost random who has the ‘spark’ of bestseller. #kidlitchat
2:49 am rllafevers: @KateMessner @jennymosswrites I totally believe that! #kidlitchat
2:49 am tinatoler: @f_rancesca lol kids do love to read about farting. My 10yo son thinks it’s the best there is. #kidlitchat
2:49 am KatGirl_Studio: @WendyMartinArt what series? #kidlitchat
2:49 am LM_Preston: @BarbFerrer Me too, but admit to shopping on internet more #kidlitchat
2:49 am ctrichmond: @f_rancesca And I shall read your book about zombie farting unicorns! #kidlitchat
2:49 am KatGirl_Studio: @LaurelSnyder oh ya LOL probably #kidlitchat
2:50 am LM_Preston: I just wish there was a publishing house trend list on Best Seller’s produced by genre, and publisher…tee hee #kidlitchat
2:50 am BarbFerrer: @LM_Preston I did until I moved to Seattle last year. Now, I have mult. bookstores w/ great selection. My local indie is amazing #kidlitchat
2:50 am f_rancesca: @tinatoler My eight-year old daughter does too. I don’t remember being quite so in love with farts when I was young. #kidlitchat
2:50 am kellybarnhill: @gregpincus Ha! I’m totally gonna get the Virgin Mary to blurb my book! #kidlitchat
2:50 am adamselzer: @tinatoler There’s nothing funnier than swearing to my kid. Would that I could use swear words for cheap laughs in MG books! #kidlitchat
2:50 am DreamingReviews: @adamselzer Some bloggers are dense. It sucks. Publicity is publicity though – you just have to find the right audience. #kidlitchat
2:50 am emilytastic: Gah! Totally spaced on #kidlitchat! Hi guys! #kidlitchat
2:50 am rllafevers: @stevenmalk @gregpincus Even the big Penguin Five had slightly diff marketing plans. There is no one formula that always works. #kidlitchat
2:51 am DreamingReviews: @LM_Preston I think I saw one at Dear Author! #tothearchives #kidlitchat
2:51 am LM_Preston: @ReadingEcstasy Lol *wink* it’s here waiting for you #kidlitchat
2:51 am KatGirl_Studio: @ctrichmond LOL maybe I’ll draw one along with the ballet dancing giant squid #kidlitchat
2:51 am LauraRenegar: @kellybarnhill You mean nobody has taught you the secret handshake yet? #kidlitchat
2:51 am LM_Preston: @DreamingReviews Awesome! I’m going to find it #kidlitchat
2:51 am f_rancesca: @BarbFerrer @thebookbarr @tinatoler @ctrichmond I think I’m onto something! *opens fresh Scrivener file* #kidlitchat
2:51 am ctrichmond: Yes! Want! @LM_Preston RT I just wish there was a publishing house trend list on Best Seller’s produced by genre, and publisher #kidlitchat
2:51 am elanaroth: Okay…what else? #kidlitchat
2:52 am tinatoler: I think if ya listen to kids and YA, I mean really listen to what they say, you can learn so much and write what they want #kidlitchat
2:52 am amylovestrees: Sometimes I wonder if any of my favorite books would get published today. #kidlitchat
2:52 am scottneumyer: @adamselzer @tinatoler haha I got beat up for using damn and hell like 2 times haha #kidlitchat
2:52 am DreamingReviews: @adamselzer Satire hasn’t done too well yet, though. Readers don’t see a lot of great examples for one reason or another. #kidlitchat
2:52 am jennymosswrites: @stevenmalk I liked what you said, but now can’t find: Work hard, hope, whaaat? #kidlitchat
2:52 am LM_Preston: @ctrichmond That would be interesting :-D DreamingReviews said it was on Dear Author #kidlitchat
2:52 am tinatoler: kids are full of opinions, ideas, and answers. They are truly my inspiration #kidlitchat
2:52 am rllafevers: For a great overview of the industry (midlist, distribution, ebooks etc) highly rec http://bit.ly/ih4vmN. Worth time investment. #kidlitchat
2:52 am kellybarnhill: @LauraRenegar Oh CRAP! There really IS a secret handshake! (I secretly *knew* it!) #kidlitchat
2:52 am amylovestrees: But then, would any of the current books I champion have been published then? #doubleedgedsword #kidlitchat
2:52 am ctrichmond: @KatGirl_Studio Haha, that’d be great! If I was an editor, I’d snap your dancing squid right up! #kidlitchat
2:53 am KatGirl_Studio: @amylovestrees I know what you mean. One of my fav books as a kid involved cats killing each other. So would not make it today #kidlitchat
2:53 am rllafevers: @ctrichmond @LM_Preston Yes but by the time we wrote to that trend it would have moved on. #kidlitchat
2:53 am adamselzer: @scottneumyer @tinatoler I sometimes can’t even get away with “ass” when I’m quoting George Washington! #kidlitchat
2:53 am DreamingReviews: @gregpincus Oh yes. @leewind is a great resource for LGBTQ YA/MG of all publisher types. Love him. #kidlitchat
2:53 am deegarretson: Even if internet is easier I can’t get my reluctant reader kid to pick a book unless she can look it over in store before we buy #kidlitchat
2:53 am elloecho: @amylovestrees I’ve had that same thought! It’s a different publishing world out there. #kidlitchat
2:53 am KateMessner: @amylovestrees Agreed. “Dear Mr. White, While your writing is promising, I am not fond of anthropomorphic animals…” #kidlitchat
2:53 am LM_Preston: @Ansley_Salinase What kind of posts? #kidlitchat
2:53 am KatGirl_Studio: @ctrichmond it was something mentioned in #kidlitart months back #kidlitchat
2:53 am f_rancesca: @ctrichmond @KatGirl_Studio The dancing squid could date my zombie unicorn! It would be magic! Tragic! And smelly! #kidlitchat
2:54 am paulgreci: @tinatoler my HS. students were drawn to contemporary YA. #kidlitchat
2:54 am KatGirl_Studio: @ctrichmond it makes me laugh, maybe I will write PB for it because it’s too funny. #kidlitchat
2:54 am elloecho: @rllafevers OH wow! Thanks Robin!! #kidlitchat
2:54 am LM_Preston: You’d know what not to write @RLLaFevers: @ctrichmond Yes but by the time we wrote to that trend it would have moved on. #kidlitchat
2:54 am KatGirl_Studio: @f_rancesca LOL #kidlitchat
2:54 am stevenmalk: Exactly — ignore trend. RT @RLLaFevers Yes but by the time we wrote to that trend it would have moved on. #kidlitchat
2:54 am MarthaGouws: RT @RebeccAgent: All of us do need to remember that publishing is a business. Hopefully we’re all in it b/c we have passion for books… #Kidlitchat
2:54 am ctrichmond: @f_rancesca @KatGirl_Studio A bestseller, surely! #kidlitchat
2:55 am paulgreci: @tinatoler I meant to say realistic contemporary YA #kidlitchat
2:55 am tinatoler: @paulgreci @tinatoler my kids and their friends are too #kidlitchat
2:55 am readingecstasy: @paulgreci All of them or a certain demographic? Also, are they pleased *after* they read them? #kidlitchat
2:55 am jennymosswrites: RT @rllafevers: For a great overview of industry (midlist, distribution, ebooks etc) highly rec http://bit.ly/ih4vmN. #kidlitchat
2:55 am f_rancesca: @KateMessner @amylovestrees I hug my old favorites, glad that they did make the cut in their day, hoping new greats make it now #kidlitchat
2:55 am Donna_Earnhardt: @kellybarnhill @LauraRenegar WHAT HANDSHAKE? I knew there was a secret MIlkshake…but this? *feeling left out here* #kidlitchat
2:55 am KatGirl_Studio: @ctrichmond I’ll work on it after these current ones =^.^= #kidlitchat
2:55 am the1stdaughter: RT @jennymosswrites: RT @rllafevers: For a great overview of industry (midlist, distribution, ebooks etc) highly rec http://bit.ly/ih4vmN. #kidlitchat
2:55 am elloecho: @stevenmalk @RLLaFevers I’d like to be the trend setter! ;o) #kidlitchat
2:55 am adamselzer: @paulgreci @tinatoler but what kids will read in schools/libraries aren’t always the same as what they’ll buy. #kidlitchat
2:56 am LauraRenegar: RT @kellybarnhill: In the end, we all just have to write the books we truly, deeply, madly love. That’s it. And if we’re lucky, it’ll pay the bills #kidlitchat
2:56 am tinatoler: I don’t even remember reading YA books when I was young and only a few MG. Seems sad now. As a teen I read more adult books #kidlitchat
2:56 am stevenmalk: I think it’s smart to have the corner of your eye on the market, but writing to the market has always been a losing proposition. #kidlitchat
2:56 am EMKokie: Darn – didn’t realize the time and missed most of #kidlitchat
2:56 am BarbFerrer: RT @stevenmalk: I think it’s smart to have the corner of your eye on the market, but writing to the market has always been a losing proposition. #kidlitchat
2:56 am DreamingReviews: As a highschooler – I see a LOT of people reading the Uglies/Hunger Games, Ellen Hopkins…people like edgy (and commercial) #kidlitchat
2:56 am readingecstasy: @paulgreci Define realistic. Many YA focus on sensational cliches rather than explore the depths of everyday teens. @tinatoler #kidlitchat
2:56 am jennymosswrites: RT @kellybarnhill: In the end, we all just have to write the books we truly, deeply, madly love. #kidlitchat
2:56 am scottneumyer: RT @stevenmalk: I think it’s smart to have the corner of your eye on the market, but writing to the market has always been a losing proposition. #kidlitchat
2:56 am LM_Preston: Some people write to the market … shhhh James Patterson….#kidlitchat
2:57 am tinatoler: @adamselzer @paulgreci true but based on my experience with teens, they do love real life drama with a little fantasy added #kidlitchat
2:57 am LM_Preston: Oh, sorry, he is the market, lol #kidlitchat
2:57 am emilytastic: @tinatoler Well even ten years ago there really wasn’t too much YA. Certainly not the way there is today. #kidlitchat
2:57 am ctrichmond: @elloecho I think Korean Historical Fantasy is pretty trend-setting! :) #kidlitchat
2:57 am KateMessner: Time to trot out my favorite @literaticat quote: Write what you love. There is always a market for awesome. #kidlitchat
2:57 am emilytastic: @EMKokie Me too. I have no idea what’s going on. #kidlitchat
2:57 am readingecstasy: @LM_Preston There you go #kidlitchat
2:57 am LauraRenegar: I will teach @Donna_Earnhart & @kellybarnhill the secret handshake in exchange for the secret milkshake. #kidlitchat
2:58 am BarbFerrer: @ReadingEcstasy Realistic can take a lot of forms. That’s what makes it so much fun to write. @paulgreci #kidlitchat
2:58 am emilytastic: @KateMessner That’s my favorite @literaticat quote, too. “There’s always a market for awesome.” #kidlitchat
2:58 am tinatoler: @emilytastic and I was a teen way before that…like 25-30 years ago. #kidlitchat
2:58 am paulgreci: @adamselzer that’s true, however, my students got to choose what they read. I used their reader surveys to purchase books, too. #kidlitchat
2:58 am LM_Preston: RT @DreamingReviews: @tinatoler To be fair a lot of YA was rather under-written/developed for the audience. I read adult #kidlitchat
2:58 am rllafevers: RT @KateMessner: Time to trot out my favorite @literaticat quote: Write what you love. There is always a market for awesome. #kidlitchat
2:58 am f_rancesca: RT @KateMessner: Time to trot out my favorite @literaticat quote: Write what you love. There is always a market for awesome > :) #kidlitchat
2:58 am amandahoving: @gregpincus – @literaticat had the best tweet about refraining from outlandish sales promises unless UR Jesus writing his auto-b #kidlitchat
2:58 am MoonlightReview: @DreamingReviews I agree but I also see a lot of realistic romance. #kidlitchat
2:58 am PaulWHankins: RT @KateMessner: Time to trot out my favorite @literaticat quote: Write what you love. There is always a market for awesome. #kidlitchat
2:58 am KatGirl_Studio: @emilytastic ya and the little there was wasn’t that good if i remember #kidlitchat
2:59 am DreamingReviews: @tinatoler And I’m still in high – school. YA as a *real* genre is a very new concept IMO. #kidlitchat
2:59 am ClaireCaterer: @ctrichmond @elloecho I’m all over the Korean Hist Fantasy trend! #kidlitchat
2:59 am rllafevers: @elloecho @stevenmalk You totally are, Ello! Kick @ss, demon fighting Korean heroine! Uh, yeah. TRENDSETTER! #kidlitchat
2:59 am PaulWHankins: RT @paulgreci: @adamselzer that’s true, however, my students got to choose what they read. I used their reader surveys to purchase books, too. #kidlitchat
2:59 am elloecho: @ctrichmond @elloecho Somehow I’m not holding my breath on that one! #kidlitchat
2:59 am MoonlightReview: Our library tries, but if it is too edgy it won’t stock it. #kidlitchat
2:59 am readingecstasy: @BarbFerrer Yes, but what many authors write isn’t realistic so much as it is everyday fantasy. @paulgreci #kidlitchat
2:59 am paulgreci: Gotta run. Thanks again for a great chat. #kidlitchat
2:59 am DreamingReviews: @MoonlightReview Contemporary in general does well if it has a good concept and looks attractive. #kidlitchat
2:59 am adamselzer: @KatGirl_Studio @emilytastic Well, as of the 90s, YA was just Christopher Pike. Much of current YA would have been MG. #kidlitchat
2:59 am LM_Preston: RT @MoonlightReview: Our library tries, but if it is too edgy it won’t stock it. #kidlitchat But do kids ask for them?
2:59 am KatGirl_Studio: @rllafevers @elloecho @stevenmalk @ss that sounds cool! #kidlitchat
2:59 am LaurelSnyder: A book I have coming out was sold as “a book about seagulls, divorce, & a magical breadbox.” Editors still buy weird stuff. #kidlitchat
2:59 am WendyMartinArt: I have strong optimism that this year will be a good one for books. #kidlitchat
3:00 am readingecstasy: For example? RT @MoonlightReview: Our library tries, but if it is too edgy it won’t stock it. #kidlitchat
3:00 am MoonlightReview: @DreamingReviews especially with the popular girls lol #kidlitchat
3:00 am tinatoler: real issues: drugs, sex, romance, LGBT, step parents, divorcing parents, abuse, bullying (sorry, lost tweet who asked about this #kidlitchat
3:00 am jennymosswrites: @elloecho I’m looking forward to reading yours, Ello! #kidlitchat
3:00 am elloecho: @rllafevers Awwwww, thanks Robin! #kidlitchat
3:00 am BarbFerrer: @ReadingEcstasy Well then, I think you’re talking abt the difference between contemp & issue-oriented, which are 2 diff. animals #kidlitchat
3:00 am kellyfineman: RT @KateMessner: Time to trot out my favorite @literaticat quote: Write what you love. There is always a market for awesome. #kidlitchat
3:00 am f_rancesca: My brain is full and sloshing. Thanks for a great chat, all, especially @BonnieAdamson & @gregpincus. See (some of you) in NY! #kidlitchat
3:00 am rllafevers: @LaurelSnyder Wow, how much do I love that description! #kidlitchat
3:00 am emilytastic: @adamselzer Exactly. YA was only just starting to be a market. I’m glad it’s changed. #kidlitchat
3:00 am LM_Preston: Books are not going anywhere, it’s one of the cheapest forms of entertainment #kidlitchat
3:00 am readingecstasy: As you do every year? RT @WendyMartinArt: I have strong optimism that this year will be a good one for books. #kidlitchat
3:00 am writerstephanie: @KateMessner ok I love that @literaticat quote. I need to print it out & put it up on my wall. #kidlitchat
3:00 am scottneumyer: RT @LaurelSnyder: A book I have coming out was sold as “a book about seagulls, divorce, & a magical breadbox.” Editors still buy weird stuff. #kidlitchat
3:00 am tinatoler: @paulgreci Have a great evening #kidlitchat
3:01 am sharifwrites: RT @KateMessner: Time to trot out my favorite @literaticat quote: Write what you love. There is always a market for awesome. #kidlitchat
3:01 am DreamingReviews: @LaurelSnyder *I* love that stuff. Good contemporaries sound fun when summarized by their quirky bits. :) #kidlitchat
3:01 am MoonlightReview: @readingecstasy Nightshade, and many other novels that may go against kids beliefs. #kidlitchat
3:01 am kellybarnhill: All right ladies and gentlemen. I’m unplugging the internets for some QT with the novel. Thanks everyone for a SPECTACULAR chat! #kidlitchat
3:01 am f_rancesca: @LaurelSnyder I’m looking forward to your book. GREAT cover. Something I would definitely have picked up when I was a kid. #kidlitchat
3:01 am LM_Preston: The format of the lion’s share of the sales may change, but the desire for books won’t #kidlitchat
3:01 am KatGirl_Studio: @adamselzer i was mostly in HS in the early 2000′s actually #kidlitchat
3:01 am emilytastic: @adamselzer Also entertained by a lot of the repackages that are coming out. V.C. Andrews, for example. Teehee. #kidlitchat
3:01 am ClaireCaterer: @tinatoler I read a ton of these “real issues” books as a copy editor. I know YAs love ‘em, but man, it gets dreary. #kidlitchat
3:01 am KateMessner: @writerstephanie It’s already on my wall. :-) #kidlitchat
3:01 am DreamingReviews: @MoonlightReview Yes. Cannot stress how popular Pretty Little Liars/Private/House of Night are. #kidlitchat (Even though quality = blah)
3:01 am tinatoler: @LM_Preston I agree, and its a great escape into another world. Much better escape than say, drugs #kidlitchat
3:01 am RebeccAgent: something we haven’t talked about re the state of our business- the state of our libraries. Support em. Write to congress #Kidlitchat
3:01 am bonnieadamson: Thanks, everyone–and, yes–if you’re going to be in NY this wkend–FIND ME!! :-D #kidlitchat
3:01 am sharifwrites: Stepped away from Twitter, but will backtrack and read what I missed in #kidlitchat
3:01 am JohanneLightXD: RT @LaurelSnyder: A book I have coming out was sold as “a book about seagulls, divorce, & a magical breadbox.” Editors still buy weird stuff. #kidlitchat
3:01 am Donna_Earnhardt: @LauraRenegar @kellybarnhill That can be arranged. But first we must meet in the secret library behind the secret Dairy Queen. #kidlitchat
3:02 am BarbFerrer: @paulgreci @ReadingEcstasy My latest is a retelling of CARMEN. It’s set in the world of drum & bugle corps. 1/2 #kidlitchat
3:02 am DreamingReviews: @MoonlightReview Dumb. I wish libraries would understand edgy is good in the long run. T_T #kidlitchat @readingecstasy
3:02 am MoonlightReview: @DreamingReviews I know! And they say reading is boring no wonder…. #kidlitchat
3:02 am jennymosswrites: RT @RebeccAgent: something we havent talked abt re state of our business- state of our libraries. Support em. Write to congress #kidlitchat
3:02 am amandahoving: @kellyfineman @KateMessner And, thankfully, “awesome” comes in many different shapes sizes (and genres). #kidlitchat
3:02 am readingecstasy: @MoonlightReview Hm…Haven’t read that yet. Other? It’s interesting to learn what ppl think are too edgy. #kidlitchat
3:02 am BarbFerrer: @paulgreci @ReadingEcstasy It’s realistic to ME, but would seem fantastical to many unfamiliar w/ the activity 2/2 #kidlitchat
3:02 am LM_Preston: Had a great chat, now it’s time to get some shut eye #kidlitchat
3:03 am DreamingReviews: If anyone wants a review/guest post/whatever the whatever, feel free to email me. The blog is open to anyone who needs it. :P #kidlitchat
3:03 am MoonlightReview: @DreamingReviews exactly my thought! #kidlitchat
3:03 am Gale_Martin: RT @RebeccAgent: something we haven’t talked about re the state of our business- the state of our libraries. Support em. Write to congress #Kidlitchat
3:03 am DreamingReviews: @MoonlightReview Yeah. I want to see more LGBTQ books/books that are good yet different. Like the Gemma Doyle Trilogy. #kidlitchat
3:03 am MoonlightReview: @readingecstasy Don’t even get me started on other books! Magic equals heathen worship apparently. #kidlitchat
3:03 am deegarretson: I agree about weird stuff still out there, my next one out is about wolves/kids on a movie set in Slovakia #kidlitchat
3:03 am elloecho: @jennymosswrites Thanks Jenny! #kidlitchat
3:03 am Trundlebedtales: RT @HornBook: Before we dismiss the viability of midlist, look at the Newbery and Honors this year–midlist all. #kidlitchat
3:04 am KateMessner: Night, all~ I have a date with Scrivener. #kidlitchat
3:04 am f_rancesca: @KendraHighley Have fun writing. I’d have a hard time resisting Star Trek! Cool talking with you at #kidlitchat
3:04 am MoonlightReview: @DreamingReviews YES!! More of those need to be out there for teens! #kidlitchat
3:04 am EMKokie: @RebeccAgent Agreed. Libraries are a vital part of the market. Write to congress, and get involved locally so you get a say. #kidlitchat
3:04 am KatGirl_Studio: @elloecho oh wow missed that that was an actually book. Will have to check it out in 2012. What’s it called? #kidlitchat
3:04 am readingecstasy: @MoonlightReview Oh. So edgy, in your library, is heathen worship? #kidlitchat
3:04 am DreamingReviews: @MoonlightReview To be fair I’ve heard Nightshade falls over itself with attempted concepts… #kidlitchat @readingecstasy
3:05 am paulgreci: @ReadingEcstasy finally saw your question. :-) My students connected most with modern realistic stories set in today’s world. #kidlitchat
3:05 am KatGirl_Studio: @KateMessner I know how you feel, was up editing till 4am last night #kidlitchat
3:05 am adamselzer: @DreamingReviews @MoonlightReview I have one coming out late this year/early next, but I expect it’ll be hard to find in stores. #kidlitchat
3:05 am MoonlightReview: @readingecstasy ughm well I live in a super religious community.. #kidlitchat
3:05 am elloecho: @KatGirl_Studio My book is Prophecy: The Dragon King Chronicles out with HarperCollins summer 2012! Thanks for the interest! #kidlitchat
3:05 am DreamingReviews: @MoonlightReview Yep yep yep. I also like to see more historical fiction – which my small school library is pretty good with. #kidlitchat
3:05 am gregpincus: Thanks, all, for multitasking with the State of the Union and the State of our Biz. Transcript up sooooon! #kidlitchat
3:05 am MoonlightReview: @DreamingReviews I liked it anyways well written and new concept! #kidlitchat
3:06 am MoonlightReview: @adamselzer I want to read it! I have your first one in my TBR pile. #kidlitchat
3:06 am emilytastic: @adamselzer Too many swears again? @DreamingReviews @MoonlightReview #kidlitchat
3:06 am readingecstasy: Teens do not = find me a date. That is all. #kidlitchat
3:06 am MoonlightReview: @DreamingReviews Mine is more nonfiction. #kidlitchat
3:06 am tinatoler: Time for me to snuggle in my warm bed. Great talking to everyone, and thanks. Have a good night. #kidlitchat
3:06 am DreamingReviews: @adamselzer One what? I am intrigued now by this statement… #kidlitchat @MoonlightReview
3:06 am scottneumyer: Thanks for a great chat, everyone!! #kidlitchat
3:07 am readingecstasy: @MoonlightReview Hm. Most unfortunate. You shouldn’t have to brainwash a child. Belief should be born of choice. #kidlitchat
3:07 am adamselzer: @MoonlightReview It’s called Sparks (they won’t let me call it Debbie Does Detention).LBGT themes prob. under the name S Adams #kidlitchat
3:07 am MoonlightReview: @emilytastic yea #kidlitchat
3:08 am DreamingReviews: @MoonlightReview Bleck. I’m glad my school library isn’t as affected by the community’s fanatical nature… #kidlitchat
3:08 am RebeccAgent: Night all! #Kidlitchat
3:08 am MoonlightReview: @readingecstasy I’ve been arguing over this with my librarians! #kidlitchat
3:08 am readingecstasy: @DreamingReviews @adamselzer @MoonlightReview I’m down for the satire. It’s often better than the real deal. #kidlitchat
3:08 am MoonlightReview: @adamselzer I will look for it!! #kidlitchat
3:09 am MoonlightReview: @DreamingReviews lucky one. #kidlitchat
3:09 am DreamingReviews: @adamselzer If you ever want a review of it I am so there. Rainbow Thursday was made for those types of books. #kidlitchat
3:09 am kquimbyjohnson: RT @kellyfineman: RT @KateMessner: Time to trot out my favorite @literaticat quote: Write what you love. There is always a market for awesome. #kidlitchat
3:09 am readingecstasy: @MoonlightReview Fear. It’s scary to think someone, especially your child, may one day disagree with you. #kidlitchat
3:09 am DreamingReviews: @MoonlightReview I’m not religious b/c of being gay and what-not anyway. In my area it’s too suffocating to be appealing. #kidlitchat
3:10 am MoonlightReview: @readingecstasy ha yes. this is why my parents are raising me to believe what I want to! #kidlitchat
3:10 am adamselzer: I was SO glad to be out of my town by the time they started having big town meetings about kicking Harry Potter out of schools. #kidlitchat
3:11 am S_M_Johnston: RT @elanaroth: I didn’t mean they literally want unicorn books…please don’t send me unicorn books. #kidlitchat
3:11 am MoonlightReview: @DreamingReviews I’m not religous because in my area all the religous people are mean! I know what you mean too. #kidlitchat
3:11 am thebookbarr: Enjoyed #kidlitchat tonight! Nothing but positive on my end. Sorry to miss NYC but hope to see you @SCBWIEastPa Pocono retreat. Good luck!
3:11 am readingecstasy: @adamselzer WHAAAY?? How does HP offend? #kidlitchat
3:11 am MoonlightReview: Okay I am off! Thanks for the chat! #kidlitchat
3:13 am readingecstasy: @adamselzer Sad. We make our progress in millimeters. #kidlitchat
3:14 am adamselzer: Now I live in the big city, and get all offended when people assume small towners have more “values.” Not true at all. #kidlitchat

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