Kidlitchat Transcript – January 19 (part 2)
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2:44 am CateHart: @comagrrl in college – my mom taught reading and she banned me from reading Forever #kidlitchat
2:44 am lioncaller: @gregpincus No, but I heard Donna Jo Napoli speak at the Rocky Mtn SCBWI and she was fantastic. 
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2:44 am onbeyondwords: Bye everyone. I plan to look for the award-winning books I haven’t read yet soon. #kidlitchat
2:44 am WriterRoss: @RebeccAgent Precisely why I could not believe E Partridge’s MARCHING/FREEDOM was not noted as a medalist. Such a beautiful bk #kidlitchat
2:44 am melissathomson: @dawnbonnevie Agree! In pop. culture we seem 2 give prizes 4 things we value (peace, best makeup) so awards show we value books #kidlitchat
2:44 am EgmontGal: @gregpincus Award winner abroad (e g Carnegie) gets our attention, but doesn’t affect final decision. award won’t help US sales #kidlitchat
2:44 am mosylu: @KarenMusings but photography can be beautiful art just like oils or watercolors or gouache. Not incompatible, to me. #kidlitchat
2:44 am RebeccAgent: @gregpincus the Charlotte Zolotow award is for picture book text #kidlitchat
2:44 am DDHearn: @RebeccAgent I think a book can be illustrated with photography. Doesn’t have to be artwork. #kidlitchat
2:44 am susan_marie: @RebeccAgent Do you have concerns about photos winning an award for illustration? Seems wonderful to me. #kidlitchat
2:44 am EgmontGal: @PattyJMurphy NOOOOO not one more award to slice everything so fine yet again. too many already in my opinion #kidlitchat
2:44 am amy7a: @erinbowbooks Sad — people might enjoy the other books better, but will go for the shiny sticker to be ’safe’. #kidlitchat
2:45 am Shelltex: @tehawesomersace I just posted the same thing about Wifey. Okay, glad I’m not the only one. #kidlitchat
2:45 am RebeccAgent: also Ezra Jack Keats award gives one to illus and one to text for pbs #kidlitchat
2:45 am LaFabuliste: @melissathomson We also give awards for lots of stupid things. Like hotdog eating. #kidlitchat
2:45 am CateHart: lol that last post read funny, that would be she banned me from reading Forever by Judy Blume lol #kidlitchat
2:45 am marjorielight: HA! RT @dawnmetcalf So, obviously, we should tell marketing to make a cover entirely of stickers. #kidlitchat Yup, my son would’ve bit…
2:45 am gregpincus: @stephanieruble I think Stones in the Water. You’d remember the speech more than the chicken we were eating at the time #kidlitchat
2:45 am erinbowbooks: Personally (and I’m not a teen) I follow the Prinz awards, and will pick up anything with that sticker. At the library, anyway. #kidlitchat
2:45 am SheviStories: Bestsellers rarely win awards; award winers are rarely bestsellers. Wimpy Kid & Twilight, for example. #kidlitchat
2:45 am EgmontGal: waiting for @rebeccaAgent’s admission that Tuck Everlasting didn’t win newbery or honor. That was knee knock rise I think #kidlitchat
2:45 am bonnieadamson: @RebeccAgent I’m ok with photography winning illus. award–photography IS an illustration art form. #kidlitchat
2:45 am dawnbonnevie: #kidlitchat I agree photography is art
2:45 am LaFabuliste: I work at a bookstore. Had a parent come in and ask for an “award winner that teaches values.” And then I rolled my eyes. #kidlitchat
2:45 am dlschubert: @dawnmetcalf I discovered “Sideways” on NPR. NPR is the bomb.#kidlitchat
2:45 am EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent another award that doesn’t really help sales, the Keats #kidlitchat
2:45 am KarenMusings: @mosylu You’re right. When I think of illustrations I think “painting.” Photography is def. art. Ansel Adams to me is art. #kidlitchat
2:45 am sarahhazelton: In Australia, biggest sales boost comes from Children’s Book Council Book of the Year Awards. Effect varies for other awards. #kidlitchat
2:45 am lioncaller: Still, why not separate? RT @PattyJMurphy: NF & fic shouldnt be competing w/ea other <<–Dont’ agree. It’s all about story… #kidlitchat
2:45 am gregpincus: @RebeccAgent Duh. I knew that! Thanks. #kidlitchat
2:46 am SheviStories: I’d rather be a bestseller than an award winner. I’d rather be loved by readers than by critics. #kidlitchat
2:46 am jennymckmoss: Oh, dear. Talk of sales and books not being read making me depressed. I wish I hadn’t eaten all my chocolate. #kidlitchat
2:46 am PattyJMurphy: RT @EgmontGal: @PattyJMurphy NOOOOO not one more award to slice everything so fine yet again. <<–OK. Zolotow works for me:) #kidlitchat
2:46 am eliseharter: @RebeccAgent #kidlitchat Illustration is defined as “furnishing a book with drawings, pictures or other artwork” or even “to enlighten”.
2:46 am LaFabuliste: @lioncaller Because a story should be true, regardless of whether it’s fact or not? #kidlitchat
2:46 am debbieohi: RT @jennymckmoss: Oh, dear. Talk of sales and books not being read making me depressed. I wish I hadnt eaten all my chocolate. #kidlitchat
2:46 am amy7a: Maybe this was asked already: Have all Newberry’s been award winners? #kidlitchat
2:46 am literaticat: I’M HERE. You can all relax now! #kidlitchat
2:46 am gregpincus: @amy7a Sure they might go for the shiny sticker, but that’s their choice, isn’t it? They don’t have to. #kidlitchat
2:46 am RebeccAgent: @egmontgal I said that I was surprised Tuck hadn’t won honor or medal. Assumed it did and think committee that year made mistake #kidlitchat
2:47 am dawnmetcalf: @DDHearn @lioncaller @joswartz Actually, I tend to think of fantasy as based on magic & paranormal as based on real-world myth. #kidlitchat
2:47 am Linamoon: @steveedw only just dipping into the fae myself. I have to keep reminding myself that the only limit is my own imagination. #kidlitchat
2:47 am DDHearn: @CateHart Yes, that sounded pretty harsh there, for a minute. #kidlitchat
2:47 am steveedw: @jennymckmoss Ha! I’m with you, send me a Snickers! #kidlitchat
2:47 am WriterRoss: @RebeccAgent Are these ( Zolotow, Keats) announced every year? #kidlitchat
2:47 am geekwriter1: RT @SheviStories: I’d rather be a bestseller than an award winner. I’d rather be loved by readers than by critics. #kidlitchat – BRAVO!
2:47 am kristinlgray: I was drawn to Newbery books as kid but loved stickers. (scratch n sniff, anyone?) 1st Newbery I recall reading: Caddie Woodlawn #kidlitchat
2:47 am adamselzer: Well, what DID win the year Tuck came out? #kidlitchat
2:47 am CateHart: @SheviStories I’d just rather write the best book and whatever happens happens #kidlitchat
2:47 am susan_marie: @RebeccAgent @gregpincus Charlotte Zolotow award for picture book text from the CCBC–yes! An award for all to know about! #kidlitchat
2:47 am elanaroth: Sorry I blipped out, all. Got swept up in a website design. #kidlitchat
2:47 am dlschubert: @literaticat PHEW… #kidlitchat
2:47 am stephanieruble: @gregpincus You’re right about the chicken! I don’t think I was there for that. I must have seen her the time after that. #kidlitchat
2:47 am EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent Oh, I hope so! and I hope now Viking will reissue the long ignored Okey Doke, Artichoke, her masterpiece. #kidlitchat
2:47 am emilytastic: @dawnmetcalf I think of it that way, too. #kidlitchat
2:47 am YolaRamunno: @LaFabuliste So what did you recommend? #kidlitchat
2:47 am WillowRaven: @susan_marie @RebeccAgent From my stand point, NO! If we replace the art, we replace an entire craft. They won’t use us #kidlitchat
2:48 am erinbowbooks: @amy7a Not zero sum means they might buy an EXTRA book b/c of sticker, not pick that book and not another. Sorry, math speak. #kidlitchat
2:48 am RebeccAgent: the photography in that book is beautiful and think it was a bold choice for CSK committee but wish they picked more honors #kidlitchat
2:48 am jennymckmoss: @steveedw If I *had* a Snickers, you would not get it. #kidlitchat
2:48 am bonnieadamson: While we’re speaking of illustration and sales, #kidlitart Thursday will be discussing contract issues. #kidlitchat
2:48 am DDHearn: @SheviStories Yes, and Berenstein bears (sorry spelling). Very popular, but no awards. #kidlitchat
2:48 am eliseharter: @RebeccAgent but my instinct is to say that photography isn’t illustration, that it’s another art form. You? #kidlitchat
2:48 am dawnmetcalf: @marjorielight The puffy or scratch-n-sniff ones are the best! 
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2:48 am amy7a: @gregpincus Yes–true. #kidlitchat
2:48 am Linamoon: @DDHearn I think of paranormal as being unexpected, beyond reality. So yes, also fantasy. #kidlitchat
2:48 am TracyClark_TLC: My local library has their own circular shiny stickers. Sneaky library! Soon realized there couldn’t be THAt many award winners! #kidlitchat
2:48 am steveedw: @Linamoon what I love about it is how rich the lore is to draw on as well. Fairies and Gnomes can make for fun writing. #kidlitchat
2:48 am stephanieruble: RT @bonnieadamson: While were speaking of illustration and sales, #kidlitart Thursday will be discussing contract issues. #kidlitchat
2:48 am amy7a: @erinbowbooks Ah–thanks for the lesson. #kidlitchat
2:48 am jenonymously: RT @SheviStories: I’d rather be a bestseller than an award winner.I’d rather be loved by readers than by critics.That’s awesome! #kidlitchat
2:48 am CateHart: @DDHearn lol, my mom encouraged me to read everything, she just knew that Forever was not appropriate for a 12yo – she was right #kidlitchat
2:49 am gregpincus: @literaticat Whew. We will breath easier! And hi! #kidlitchat
2:49 am LaFabuliste: @YolaRamunno Graveyard Book, I think? “It’s about, uh, growing up. And friendship?” #kidlitchat
2:49 am KarenMusings: @TracyClark_TLC My library also has their own stickers. Georgia peaches. But they are ugly. 
Wish they would change. #kidlitchat
2:49 am DDHearn: @KarenMusings Besides, with photoshop a lot is done to those photographs. Definitely an art form. #kidlitchat
2:49 am TracyClark_TLC: @literaticat That explains why I was feeling so edgy. #kidlitchat
2:49 am timkeetonwriter: Hey, sorry to chime in so late here. #kidlitchat
2:49 am AuthorTaraKelly: Hey all, what’s the convo tonight? #kidlitchat
2:49 am RebeccAgent: not sure how frequently Zolotow & Keats announced. I think Keats announced after ALA awards? Haven’t been named for 2009 bks yet #kidlitchat
2:49 am YolaRamunno: @LaFabuliste I read it. I love Nobody Owens. #kidlitchat
2:50 am stephanieruble: RT @TracyClark_TLC: local library has own shiny stickers. Sneaky library! realized there couldnt be THAt many award winners! #kidlitchat
2:50 am DDHearn: @SheviStories Rent the movie, Sullivan’s Travels. It addresses the theme of the importance of entertainment. #kidlitchat
2:50 am KarenMusings: @DDHearn I’m going to check this book out. Sounds intriguing using photos as the backdrop for the Hughes poem. #kidlitchat
2:50 am bonnieadamson: @timkeetonwriter Hi, Tim–we’re talking about awards: ALA et al. #kidlitchat
2:50 am MaryBethCryan: Have you heard of the Meggendorfer Prize? It goes to a paper engineer who’s published the most outstanding pop-up book in 2yrs. #kidlitchat
2:50 am adamselzer: See, fantasy has it’s own world to exist in, wheras paranormal takes place in the real world. #kidlitchat
2:50 am joswartz: #kidlitchat the eye spy books are art. There is a lot that can be done with photography, collage etc. It opens the field a bit.
2:50 am elanaroth: My gut feeling on awards is that they are wonderful things (and I hope to win some), but not the only litmus test for quality. #kidlitchat
2:50 am SheviStories: Paranormal means aliens, ghosts, vampires, witches, werewolves, angels, etc. in a modern setting. #kidlitchat
2:50 am debbieohi: @AuthorTaraKelly Topic: ALA awards (see full topic description at @kidlitchat) #kidlitchat
2:50 am WillowRaven: @susan_marie @RebeccAgent Stock photos a buck a piece. If they can earn the award and not pay $20+ per illo, they will. #kidlitchat
2:51 am beatricejclark: What about the SCBWI Golden Kite awards? #kidlitchat
2:51 am bonnieadamson: @AuthorTaraKelly Awards & their significance. #kidlitchat
2:51 am emilytastic: @adamselzer What about urban fantasy? Is that like on the line between fantasy and paranormal? #kidlitchat
2:51 am TracyClark_TLC: @KarenMusings Our library are gold and look just like the Caldecott. I think it’s a conspiracy. #kidlitchat
2:51 am timkeetonwriter: Amen @SheviStories #kidlitchat
2:51 am RebeccAgent: the illustrations in the CSK were taken for the book. Not stock photos #kidlitchat
2:51 am mosylu: @adamselzer I’d not heard that before, but it makes sense #kidlitchat
2:51 am marjorielight: @dawnmetcalf HA!! (I prefer furry ones or glitter…the sniff stickers made me sneeze) #kidlitchat
2:51 am DDHearn: @dawnmetcalf Could be, but, say, in Wicked Lovely the glamour is a sort of magic, isn’t it? Fairies use magic in paranormal? #kidlitchat
2:51 am SheviStories: @DDHearn Jack Black addressed it at the Oscars a few years back, how popular comedies rarely win awards. #kidlitchat
2:51 am steveedw: @adamselzer So if the gnomes or fairies are in an urban tale, it could be considered crossover? #kidlitchat
2:51 am PattyJMurphy: RT @elanaroth: My gut feeling on awards = wonderful things (and I hope to win some), but not the only litmus test for quality. #kidlitchat
2:52 am elanaroth: I don’t remember being so aware of them as a kid. But my Hebrew school students seem to know the Newbery. #kidlitchat
2:52 am lioncaller: NF is expository/interpretation. It’s an *argument.* Rhet is diff. RT @LaFabuliste: Bec story shld true,whether fact or not? #kidlitchat
2:52 am steveedw: @emilytastic I agree completely. #kidlitchat
2:52 am hannahmosk: @literaticat THANK GOD. #kidlitchat
2:52 am dawnmetcalf: Agreed. RT @adamselzer See, fantasy has it’s own world to exist in, whereas paranormal takes place in the real world. #kidlitchat
2:52 am EgmontGal: @beatricejclark I published a few golden Kite award winners (Kevin Lewis edited them)don’t remember real sales uptick, but nice. #kidlitchat
2:52 am KarenMusings: @TracyClark_TLC They are probably pretty and shiny though. Not ugly and orange. Peaches aren’t orange. LOL. #kidlitchat
2:52 am timkeetonwriter: @TracyClark_TLC Love it! #kidlitchat
2:52 am DDHearn: @geekwriter1 Me too. I was happy when my book, Dad’s Dinosaur Day, won a children’s choice award. Meant kids liked it. #kidlitchat
2:52 am WriterRoss: So I take it it’s not an annuallly-awarded medal a la Siebert. In that vein, what is differnce btw new ALA NF award & Siebert? #kidlitchat
2:52 am bonnieadamson: @RebeccAgent Well, gosh, no–stock photos not eligible any more than clip art would be. #kidlitchat
2:52 am adamselzer: @emilytastic if you do urban fantasy now, people will often CALL it paranormal (and judge it as such). Ask @seananmcguire #kidlitchat
2:53 am juliadevillers: Joining in time for Judy Blume and scratch+sniff stickers? Two favorites of mine. #kidlitchat
2:53 am EireOz: Hi all first time here – the Australian Aurealis Awards are on this Sat : http://www.aurealisawards.com/ #kidlitchat
2:53 am LaFabuliste: Does a Golden Kite get a sticker? Can’t say I remember seeing one. #kidlitchat
2:53 am SheviStories: @emilytastic Urban fantasy is a subgenre of paranormal fantasy, IMHO: Paranormal with romance. #kidlitchat
2:53 am joswartz: i agree. RT @adamselzer: See, fantasy has it’s own world to exist in, wheras paranormal takes place in the real world. #kidlitchat
2:53 am bonnieadamson: @EgmontGal The reading public doesn’t know much about Golden Kite, do they? #kidlitchat
2:53 am elanaroth: I feel like the underachieving agent in this room with @rebeccagent and @literaticat’s victories this week… #kidlitchat
2:53 am erinbowbooks: @emilytastic @adamselzer Personally, I think the line between urban fantasy and paranormal is the amount of kissing. #kidlitchat
2:53 am jenonymously: Just finished interview for SCBWI Bologna with the remarkable Leonard Marcus. He had insightful words on this topic- #kidlitchat
2:53 am TracyClark_TLC: @timkeetonwriter Funny huh? But probably only a testament to how easy I am to fool. #kidlitchat
2:53 am eliseharter: #kidlitchat An #illustrator of children’s literature, whose work I love, is Laurence Cleyet-Merle, http://www.illustrationweb.com
2:53 am dawnmetcalf: @lioncaller Anyone for an argument, or merely a contradiction? http://bit.ly/4qgXsq #kidlitchat
2:53 am adamselzer: Didn’t Pinkwater make up his own sticker once? Or make one for an award made up by a reader? #kidlitchat
2:54 am emilytastic: @adamselzer You’re totally right. Though I think faeries are the exception. I never think of them as paranormal – do you? #kidlitchat
2:54 am MardouLedger: Thanks for def. RT @adamselzer: See, fantasy has it’s own world to exist in, wheras paranormal takes place in the real world. #kidlitchat
2:54 am stephanieruble: @marjorielight: @dawnmetcalf I like the regular stickers & shiny stickers (not a fan of scratch & sniff, but I used to be) #kidlitchat
2:54 am LaFabuliste: Urban fantasy= fairies with bling! 
I’d read it. #kidlitchat
2:54 am PattyJMurphy: @EgmontGal: Speaking of KL, is he still w/S&S. I heard he moved on. Know where? #kidlitchat
2:54 am geekwriter1: @YolaRamunno: @LaFabuliste Graveyard Book rocked. 4 yr old son couldn’t get into it ,10 yr old daughter & I loved it #kidlitchat
2:54 am KarenMusings: Is the SCBWI Golden Kite considered a “peer” award? Who are the judges? #kidlitchat
2:54 am bonnieadamson: RT @erinbowbooks: @emilytastic @adamselzer The line between urban fantasy and paranormal is the amount of kissing. #kidlitchat
2:54 am literaticat: @elanaroth Aw *blush* – yes I am very proud. #kidlitchat
2:54 am steveedw: @erinbowbooks HA! Must remember to add more kissing to my stories #kidlitchat
2:55 am bonnieadamson: @jenonymously Speaking of Leonard Marcus–have al you illustrators seen his article on retro in Horn Book? Interesting. #kidlitchat
2:55 am DDHearn: @adamselzer Harry Potter took place in the real world (at least partly). #kidlitchat
2:55 am LaFabuliste: 1: Librarian told me about conference she was at with authors presenting. All authors but one had won awards #kidlitchat
2:55 am melissathomson: Question: What can a writer do, if anything, to maximize the sales impact of an award? (Not ALA, but a state award or similar) #kidlitchat
2:55 am elanaroth: @literaticat It’s exciting! You should be proud #kidlitchat
2:55 am dawnmetcalf: RT @LaFabuliste Urban fantasy= fairies with bling! I’d read it. #kidlitchat
2:55 am lioncaller: What do Neil Gaiman & Charles deLint do, “rural fantasy”? Shamanic lit? #kidlitchat
2:55 am literaticat: @adamselzer The LEONARD PRIZE FOR LITERATURE, bestowed by Steve Leonard, schoolchild from Auburn, Wash. The pub made stickers! #kidlitchat
2:55 am LaFabuliste: 2: So, not to be outdone, lone author bought some ALA stickers and stuck her own books for her presentation. #kidlitchat
2:55 am adamselzer: @emilytastic fairies as paranormal vs fantasy depends mainly on what they’re doing and where they live. #kidlitchat
2:55 am JennBailey: In a board meeting but I’m following #kidlitchat sneakily under the table. *secret wave*
2:55 am comagrrl: @MardouLedger That makes sense. #kidlitchat
2:55 am Tiare75: My kids and I have LOVED a few award winners. The Watsons Go to Birmingham, Ella Enchanted, Ramona Quimby, to name a few. #kidlitchat
2:55 am bonnieadamson: @juliadevillers Re: Golden Kite. That’s good news–they NEED to be better publicized. #kidlitchat
2:55 am adamselzer: @DDHearn but it HAD its own world. #kidlitchat
2:55 am dawnbonnevie: #kidlitchat My first graders love to write out “I recommends”, but now I’m gonna have them invent awards!! Design stickers!!
2:56 am joswartz: I think the whole fantasy vs. paranormal thing depends on how it is written. #kidlitchat
2:56 am erinbowbooks: The one I’d really like to win is the Anhk-Morpork Librarian’s Award for Excellence (known as the “Ook” or golden banana) #kidlitchat
2:56 am DDHearn: @WillowRaven I don’t see how you could really illustrate a book with stock art or photography. Not specific to the story. #kidlitchat
2:56 am dawnmetcalf: @emilytastic @adamselzer Depends what kind of fairies: traditional myth, urban fantasy, romance, high fantasy…depends. #kidlitchat
2:56 am debbieohi: @JennBailey Good for you, Jen! #kidlitchat
2:56 am RebeccAgent: @literaticat which book book was yours? The Morris? #kidlitchat
2:56 am bonnieadamson: @JennBailey Psst–hello. #kidlitchat
2:56 am Linamoon: @steveedw that’s my favourite kind of reading! I’m working on writing outside that box & find myself reaching. Fun though. #kidlitchat
2:56 am nkrell: Thanks for the awesome chat! Off to work on my Newb. Winner/Huge commercial success WIP. #kidlitchat
2:56 am jenonymously: @DDHearn I think a children’s choice award would be the best award of all! #kidlitchat
2:56 am emilytastic: @adamselzer I would love to read Adam Selzer’s Guide to Faeries #kidlitchat
2:56 am geekwriter1: What if Hogwarts was in central London? Would that still be both urban fantasy and paranormal? I think urban & contemporary #kidlitchat
2:57 am DDHearn: @steveedw I guess the best thing is just to write the story and let editor or agent decide if it’s paranormal or fantasy? #kidlitchat
2:57 am geekwriter1: @DDHearn Oh, see now that’s great. What more could you want? #kidlitchat
2:57 am gregpincus: We’re in the fourth year of the @Cybils awards – it’s hard to try and track the impact they might or might not have #kidlitchat
2:57 am dawnmetcalf: @lioncaller Dark paranormal fantasy. #kidlitchat
2:57 am PattyJMurphy: @JennBailey: We’ll be quiet. Getting excited for your SCBWI/NYC talk? You’re going to be great! #kidlitchat
2:57 am lioncaller: @dawnmetcalf LOL #kidlitchat
2:57 am SheviStories: @jenonymously Definitely! A Children’s Choice Award for books! #kidlitchat
2:57 am MaryBethCryan: The Meggendorfer Prize is awarded at the Movable Book Society conference & the people who attend it get to vote on the recipient #kidlitchat
2:57 am emilytastic: @geekwriter1 It’s middle grade, and I don’t think many people think of middle grade bks as urban fantasy. #kidlitchat
2:58 am dawnmetcalf: @emilytastic @adamselzer Like Froud. But snarkier. #kidlitchat
2:58 am adamselzer: In any case, fairy books will be judged as paranormal romances by goodreads reviewers. #kidlitchat
2:58 am WriterRoss: @EgmontGal Oh missed your AI shout out before. Had to drive to train to pick up Mr. WriterRoss. I missed the show! And you. #kidlitchat
2:58 am dlschubert: I don’t care about winning an award. I just want to get my book sold and have everyone on the planet love it. ) #kidlitchat
2:58 am literaticat: @RebeccAgent Yep, FLASH BURNOUT #kidlitchat
2:58 am CREvers: seeing what’s happening in #kidlitchat
2:58 am DDHearn: RT @erinbowbooks: @emilytastic @adamselzer I think the line between urban fantasy and paranormal is the amount of kissing. #kidlitchat
2:58 am adamselzer: @emilytastic Ask again in about 3-6 months #kidlitchat
2:58 am steveedw: @DDHearn I do agree completely. Just makes it harder to decide which agents to send queries to, I think. #kidlitchat
2:58 am PattyJMurphy: RT @jenonymously: @DDHearn I think a childrens choice award would be the best award of all! <<–Absolutely! #kidlitchat
2:58 am LaFabuliste: @geekwriter1 Would depend. Are the wizards still sequestered in their own land? Or interacting with urban muggles? #kidlitchat
2:58 am debbieohi: Learned lots re: awards tonight. Thanks for the chat, all, esp. hosts/founders @bonnieadamson and @gregpincus! Gnite. #kidlitchat
2:58 am WriterRoss: @MaryBethCryan I think I had Meggendorfer pains when I was in labor. ;> #kidlitchat
2:59 am WillowRaven: @DDHearn Well, when I plan an illo, I reference stock photos to use as ‘models’. #kidlitchat
2:59 am emilytastic: @literaticat I totally got Flash Burnout the other day. Can’t wait to read it. #kidlitchat
2:59 am RebeccAgent: @literaticat ok- just making sure my agent/book match game stats were still good. CONGRATS #kidlitchat
2:59 am emilytastic: @adamselzer Don’t think I won’t! #kidlitchat
2:59 am marjorielight: @JennBailey we’ll try to keep it down, so you won’t get caught #kidlitchat
2:59 am mosylu: @gregpincus yeah, at this point the effects of the Cybils are all anecdotal #kidlitchat
2:59 am LaFabuliste: Urban fantasy seems like fantastic and normal characters being forced to interact, based on constraints of urban living. #kidlitchat
2:59 am LeahCypess: @DDHearn Does it ever get decided? I’ve seen “fantasy” and “science fiction” stickers, but not “paranormal.” #kidlitchat
2:59 am sybir: *grins at you* Exactly! RT @dlschubert: I just want to get my book sold and have everyone on the planet love it. ) #kidlitchat
2:59 am rillajaggia: RT @dlschubert: I dont care about winning an award. I just want to get my book sold and have everyone on the planet love it. #kidlitchat
2:59 am hatbooks: @SheviStories @jenonymously Sakura Medal voted on by children in int’l schools in Japan; Maine has a similar program #kidlitchat
2:59 am Shelltex: @gregpincus Chris Barton’s Day-Glo Brothers pb was Cybils finalist and Sibert winner. #kidlitchat
2:59 am literaticat: @RebeccAgent Thanks – YOU TOOOOOO!!! #kidlitchat
2:59 am dawnmetcalf: *grins* RT @dlschubert: I just want to get my book sold and have everyone on the planet love it. ) #kidlitchat
2:59 am WillowRaven: @DDHearn I also see MSs submitted w/ gallies including stock images. #kidlitchat
3:00 am geekwriter1: @emilytastic Hmm. Books 1-3 were MG, I think. The last 3-4 became decidedly darker and more YA. But, you have a point. #kidlitchat
3:00 am RebeccAgent: what do you all think about the new non-fiction award considering the Sibert already in place? #kidlitchat
3:00 am MardouLedger: Same RT @dlschubert: I don’t care about winning an award. Just want to get my book sold and have everyone on the planet love it. #kidlitchat
3:00 am PattyJMurphy: @debbieohi: Bye, Deb. Must catch up soon:) #kidlitchat
3:00 am bonnieadamson: @debbieohi Goodnight! #kidlitchat
3:00 am lioncaller: I’d hate to write anything called paranormal. Sounds like some romance novel with time travel and a genie. #kidlitchat
3:00 am DDHearn: @bonnieadamson Yes. That retro article in Horn Book was interesting, especially how all-encompassing the term retro can be. #kidlitchat
3:00 am beatricejclark: Does anyone take the Sid F. Award for humor seriously yet or is that still years off. I’m speaking in terms of sales? #kidlitchat
3:00 am emilytastic: @dlschubert I want to be able to say that, but I would LOVE to have a Printz or NBA. I’ll take being banned, too. #kidlitchat
3:00 am MaryBethCryan: @melissathomson An award receiver should start sending out news releases immediately. #kidlitchat
3:00 am juliadevillers: @literaticat Flash Burnout is a great read. Congrats. #kidlitchat
3:00 am comagrrl: @dlschubert Amen, and AMEN! #kidlitchat
3:01 am MardouLedger: @comagrrl As someone who writes neither, I’ve always wondered about the dif between fantasy and paranormal. So yay! #kidlitchat
3:01 am emilytastic: @geekwriter1 They are all shelved together, though. HP later books are written on the same rdng level, right? (Haven’t read HP) #kidlitchat
3:01 am DDHearn: @LaFabuliste That poor one author must have felt really awkward. #kidlitchat
3:01 am bonnieadamson: @DDHearn It really got me thinking–lol, a topic for #kidlitart? #kidlitchat
3:01 am WillowRaven: @DDHearn The question was asked,’Should books w/ photos as illustration B qualified 4 illo awards’. I say no. Don’t reward that. #kidlitchat
3:01 am interactiver: @mosylu re: Cybils That’s not entirely true, tracking on Amazon has been set up for overall sales of nom’d, finalists, &winners. #kidlitchat
3:01 am adamselzer: When the line between fantasy/paranormal as blurry (as it often is), the difference is just marketing. #kidlitchat
3:01 am laurielyoung: I have to get back to work. Until next week?thanks Greg and Bonnie! #kidlitchat
3:02 am dlschubert: @emilytastic I’m w/you on the being banned wagon. (Get it?) That appeals to my rebellious side. #kidlitchat
3:02 am geekwriter1: @LaFabuliste Oh, I like where this is going. Imagine Hogsmeade is Greenwich Village, but Hogwarts is uptown. #kidlitchat
3:02 am LaFabuliste: @DDHearn From what I heard, she handled herself with aplomb. #kidlitchat
3:02 am DelilahSDawson: Hard for a newbie to keep up with awards chat– too busy querying to even think about awards. Didn’t watch Globes, either. #kidlitchat
3:02 am WriterRoss: RT @RebeccAgent: what do you all think about the new non-fiction award considering the Sibert already in place? #kidlitchat
3:02 am CateHart: The question was asked,Should books w/ photos as illustration B qualified 4 illo awards. I say no. Dont reward that. <—Agree #kidlitchat
3:02 am bonnieadamson: @WillowRaven I disagree–if photos taken specifically for the book–like, what was it, City Alphabet? Urban Alphabet? #kidlitchat
3:02 am steveedw: @WillowRaven they can’t compete with your cover art anyway #kidlitchat
3:03 am emilytastic: @dlschubert Dude. You are so awesome. I think we should start a blog/club called “banned wagon.” #kidlitchat
3:03 am adamselzer: Banned is better for street cred than awards. Street cred doesn’t always put food in pantries, though. Unless you sell drugs. #kidlitchat
3:03 am WillowRaven: Gotta go guys. GN! #kidlitchat
3:03 am PattyJMurphy: I think aspiring to write engaging, compelling, lyrical stories = a writer’s meat and potatoes. Awards = gravy:) #kidlitchat
3:03 am jenonymously: For pubbed authors/illus, there’s an internat’l award competition in Korea annually-the CJ Picture Book Award. http://ow.ly/Yr0x #kidlitchat
3:03 am stephanieruble: Love this! RT @geekwriter1: Oh, I like where this is going. Imagine Hogsmeade is Greenwich Village, but Hogwarts is uptown. #kidlitchat
3:03 am camoulton: @lyonmartin Should have clarified “CAN BE”. If it’s real world then it’s paranormal, if alternate world then its plain fantasy. #kidlitchat
3:03 am LaFabuliste: @geekwriter1 If that was the case, Malfoy would be the only one rich enough to shop. #kidlitchat
3:03 am Tiare75: @dlschubert LOL! Banned wagon…love it! #kidlitchat
3:03 am quirkywriter: Tweetdeck hates me. I wanted to participate in #kidlitchat , but it kept telling me not to panic, but there was a problem. Ya think?
3:03 am joswartz: #kidlitchat Hm. maybe we should ask @neilhimself what he thinks he writes – But, well written fantasy will get you believing it is real.
3:04 am dawnmetcalf: @lioncaller I write dark paranormal fantasy. I love it! Sounds like I’ve got not one but *two* normals! #kidlitchat
3:04 am susan_marie: @bonnieadamson Oh, Alphabet City! But that is actually paintings that look like photos! #kidlitchat
3:04 am DDHearn: @WillowRaven I use stock and other photos as reference, too, but that’s not the same as using only stock images for illustration #kidlitchat
3:04 am dawnmetcalf: RT @emilytastic: @dlschubert Dude. You are so awesome. I think we should start a blog/club called “banned wagon.” #kidlitchat
3:04 am CateHart: then what’s considered urban fantasy? #kidlitchat
3:04 am peg366: @quirkywriter Hello. #kidlitchat
3:04 am LaFabuliste: Perhaps fantasy can be the umbrella that the rest falls under? #kidlitchat
3:05 am comagrrl: I gotta bounce. My head is spinning. #kidlitchat
3:05 am hatbooks: Thanks for the chat all! Back to revising… #kidlitchat
3:05 am timkeetonwriter: @TracyClark_TLC You could call it the “Hook, Line, & Sinker” award, or “Sense & Gullibility” #kidlitchat
3:05 am camoulton: I consider my book to be urban fantasy, but some people have called it paranormal. IMO too plot-driven to be just paranormal. #kidlitchat
3:05 am stephanieruble: Hee hee. It does! RT @dawnmetcalf: I write dark paranormal fantasy. I love it! Sounds like Ive got not one but *two* normals! #kidlitchat
3:05 am SheviStories: @CateHart Urban fantasy is paranormal fantasy with romance. #kidlitchat
3:05 am bonnieadamson: @susan_marie Seriously? The one with the signs? That’s a joke on me, then. #kidlitchat
3:05 am RindaElliott: Fascinated by the discussion about paranormal vs. urban fantasy in #kidlitchat
3:05 am DDHearn: @WillowRaven REALLY? I can’t imagine creating a book dummy with unaltered stock images. #kidlitchat
3:05 am marjorielight: ‘Nite all…too many books, too little time! Thanks for enlightening me re: awards! #kidlitchat
3:05 am jenonymously: RT @bonnieadamson Agree! And what about Mo Willems- photography combined w/minimal drawing is what makes Knuffle Bunny so fun! #kidlitchat
3:05 am mosylu: fun chatting with everyone! I’ve got a reaction post to write, so I’m signing off #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
3:06 am dlschubert: @Tiare75 Thanks, I’ll be here every Tuesday night, folks! And remember – the more you drink, the funnier I am. #kidlitchat
3:06 am PattyJMurphy: @joswartz: A recent NEW YORKER story about Neil Gaiman was called “KID GOTH!” What do you think of that? #kidlitchat
3:06 am steveedw: Wow, I hate to leave, you are all fascinating, sadly, I must. Can’t wait until next time. #kidlitchat
3:06 am WriterRoss: @CateHart An urban fantasy? An affordable apartment with parking. <g> #kidlitchat
3:06 am adamselzer: @DDHearn THat sounds like a challenge! #kidlitchat
3:06 am CateHart: @SheviStories I thought that was paranormal romance??? #kidlitchat
3:06 am geekwriter1: @LaFabuliste OMG – I have slipped off my chair, laughing like a doofus. And Harry works at Starbucks! #kidlitchat
3:06 am RebeccAgent: to all who decry photos in pbs being awarded, how do you feel about Knuffle Bunny & Knuffle Bunny Too? #kidlitchat
3:06 am LaFabuliste: Or fantasy is more grounded in myth/lore, whereas paranormal is based on pseudoscience? #kidlitchat
3:06 am dawnmetcalf: @SheviStories @CateHart Disagree. Urban fantasy is fantasy that has 1 foot in the “real world”. Paranormal romance has kissing. #kidlitchat
3:07 am mayabidaya: #kidlitchat photography is art. I think it could be considered for illo award. Wouldn’t win w/o being truly artistic anyway
3:07 am DDHearn: @WillowRaven I would accept photos as illustrations if they are original, done by the illustrator photographer. #kidlitchat
3:07 am bonnieadamson: @jenonymously Yes–so many collage artists use manipulated photos. #kidlitchat
3:07 am timkeetonwriter: @BonnieAdamson Thx Bonnie! Sorry I missed most of it. I went back through some of the comments though, so I got most of the gist #kidlitchat
3:07 am PattyJMurphy: @bonnieadamson: Did Tana Hoban ever win an illustration award for her books? I loooooove Tana and her books:) #kidlitchat
3:07 am stephanieruble: Sounds like when I was a comedian! RT @dlschubert: Ill be here every Tuesday night, folks! The more you drink, the funnier I am. #kidlitchat
3:07 am emilytastic: @mayabidaya See Mo Willems! And I don’t think he’s the only Caldecott artist to use photo as medium. #kidlitchat
3:07 am bonnieadamson: @RebeccAgent Exactly. How about photo collage? #kidlitchat
3:08 am WriterRoss: @PattyJMurphy I just printed the New Yorker article out. His engagement to a punk singer seems to have amped up his Gothicness! #kidlitchat
3:08 am SheviStories: @camoulton I call one fantasy, another a romantic ghost story, another humorous fiction. No paranormal labels! #kidlitchat
3:08 am PattyJMurphy: RT @mayabidaya: #kidlitchat photography is art. I think it could be considered for illo award. Wouldnt win w/o = truly artistic. #kidlitchat
3:08 am literaticat: I cannot fathom the concept that photography shouldn’t be awarded if it qualifies. Hello, we have museums full of it. #kidlitchat
3:08 am LaFabuliste: Though there’s very little pseudosciencey about Twilight, and I place that firmly in paranormal romance… merrgh. #kidlitchat
3:08 am erinbowbooks: I think it’s time for me to get some exciting sleep. The glamorous life of a novelist! Night all! #kidlitchat
3:08 am Sparrowbug: @WriterRoss LOL. Love it. That is an urban fantasy. #kidlitchat
3:08 am DDHearn: @quirkywriter Try TweetChat next time. It has worked pretty good for me each week. #kidlitchat
3:08 am bonnieadamson: @PattyJMurphy Good question. Surely, she did. Some of my children’s favorites. #kidlitchat
3:08 am CateHart: @dawnmetcalf actually I thought urban fantasy was more edgy like Holly Black’s Tithe #kidlitchat
3:09 am susan_marie: @bonnieadamson I know exactly because I was fooled by those Caldecott Honor photo-realistic paintings! #AlphabetCity #kidlitchat
3:09 am emilytastic: RT @literaticat: I cannot fathom the concept that photography shouldnt be awarded. Hello, we have museums full of it. #kidlitchat
3:09 am literaticat: (apparently I am starving and cranky) #kidlitchat
3:09 am camoulton: If an urban fantasy can NOT have the romance taken out and still have a plot, then it’s paranormal romance. Romance is additive. #kidlitchat
3:09 am DDHearn: RT @WriterRoss: @CateHart An urban fantasy? An affordable apartment with parking. <g> #kidlitchat
3:09 am happybluejess: RED SINGS FROM TREETOPS RT @bonnieadamson: @jenonymously Yes–so many collage artists use manipulated photos. #kidlitchat
3:09 am RebeccAgent: any other opinions on books awarded/honored yesterday? I want to hear! #kidlitchat
3:09 am Shelltex: Photography is art. It’s featured in galleries every day. #kidlitchat
3:09 am jenonymously: @RebeccAgent Exactly- the photos in Knuffle Bunny ARE art. PB art is used to tell a story. His photos tell the whole story. #kidlitchat
3:10 am PattyJMurphy: RT @WriterRoss: Did you see what she wore to the GLOBES? Check out his tweet feed. The outfit was not ready for prime time. LOL #kidlitchat
3:10 am bonnieadamson: @susan_marie Well, I’m going tohave to go BUY it now, rqather than just sneak peeks at the bookstore. #kidlitchat
3:10 am WriterRoss: RT @literaticat: “Cannot fathom concept that photography shouldnt be awarded if it qualifies. We have museums full of it.” #kidlitchat
3:10 am dawnmetcalf: @CateHart Yes. Holly Black’s Modern Faerie Tales have one foot in our world and another in a dark, scary wonderful. #kidlitchat
3:10 am LaFabuliste: @RebeccAgent Speaking of which, congrats! #kidlitchat
3:10 am emilytastic: @camoulton Strange Angels by @lilitsaintcrow is an urban fantasy without romance. I loved it for that! #kidlitchat
3:11 am mayabidaya: ?cont) called “KID GOTH!” What do you think of that? #kidlitchat
3:11 am stephanieruble: RT @camoulton: If urban fantasy canNOT have romance taken out & still have plot thn its paranormal romance. Romance is additive. #kidlitchat
3:11 am literaticat: @RebeccAgent I predicted all three big winners, which was somehow both exciting and a bit of a let-down. Wish I’d had $ on it! #kidlitchat
3:11 am dawnmetcalf: Thanks for another great #kidlitchat @bonnieadamson & @gregpincus!
3:11 am gregpincus: @RebeccAgent It seems like the choices this year met with pretty widespread appreciation, considering it’s an impossible task #kidlitchat
3:11 am DDHearn: I must go so hubby won’t feel abandoned. Maybe this time next year I’ll be congratulating one of you for getting an award. #kidlitchat
3:11 am RebeccAgent: @LaFabuliste thanks. Though I wasn’t fishing for it, I swear. #kidlitchat
3:11 am geekwriter1: @emilytastic Got me interested – I checked and they’re all listed as MG, but the latter ones are crossover older MG into YA #kidlitchat
3:11 am jenonymously: @RebeccAgent I was excited to see the translated books that won awards, like Moritito. Would love to see more in that category! #kidlitchat
3:12 am WriterRoss: @RebeccAgent My overall take-away was that the winners seemed more accessible, child-friendly books, moreso than in recent years #kidlitchat
3:12 am PattyJMurphy: @RebeccAgent: Love, love, love Marla’s ALL THE WORLD…and thought Grace’s book could have won the Caldecott:) It’s sooo pretty! #kidlitchat
3:12 am RebeccAgent: really @literaticat how did you come to predict Going Bovine over Marcelo? #kidlitchat
3:12 am gregpincus: @literaticat Money on the outcome? I am sure somewhere online you can find someone making Newbery book. #kidlitchat
3:12 am camoulton: @emilytastic It seems like everyone is all about the “love triangle” in it. I’m like, WHAT love triangle? O_o #kidlitchat
3:12 am LauraHamor: @WriterRoss I agree Pam. #kidlitchat
3:12 am debbieduncan: @RebeccAgent Had to stop for dinner. Did anyone mention being thrilled for CHARLES AND EMMA as Printz Honor? I am. 3 stickers? #kidlitchat
3:13 am RebeccAgent: thanks @pattyjmurphy don’t think WTMMTM could win Caldecott b/c art doesn’t tell enough of the story #kidlitchat
3:13 am bonnieadamson: Thank you all, for new perspectives on awards. Hope you’ll join us for #kidlitart Thursday (Topic: contract issues). G’nite! #kidlitchat
3:13 am DeweyDecimator: @RebeccAgent Back to what you said about the Sibert, isn’t the new NF award more geared toward YA & the Sibert more for kids? #kidlitchat
3:13 am geekwriter1: @emilytastic Oh, and my daughter was nine when she read every single Harry Potter book, so it can range. #kidlitchat
3:13 am elanaroth: Ditto to @RebeccAgent. Where did GOING BOVINE come from @literaticat? #kidlitchat
3:13 am CateHart: @dawnmetcalf and to me fantasy is Harry Potter – because for the most part it takes place in it’s own world that coexists w/ours #kidlitchat
3:13 am happybluejess: Loved MARCELO. Haven’t read GOING BOVINE yet. #kidlitchat
3:13 am WriterRoss: @PattyJMurphy Yes. They are Very Cool those two. Making writers look hip is always a good thing. :> #kidlitchat
3:13 am quirkywriter: @literaticat Maybe we should do a fantasy baseball type league with book award predictions? : ) #kidlitchat
3:13 am stephanieruble: Me too! RT @literaticat: I predicted all 3 big winners which was somehow both exciting & bit of a let-down. Wish Id had $ on it! #kidlitchat
3:13 am RebeccAgent: @deweydecimator HI! I don’t think Sibert excludes YA audience. Does it? #kidlitchat
3:14 am melissathomson: didn’t feel well-read enough to make predictions but loved WHEN YOU REACH ME…haven’t read FLASH BURNOUT yet but will!! #kidlitchat
3:14 am emilytastic: @camoulton I KNOW! There are three characters, apparently that makes it a love triangle, even without any love. WTF. #kidlitchat
3:14 am CateHart: gotta go, child in bathtub and tweetchat is VERY slow #kidlitchat
3:14 am mrswritebrain: My first #kidlitchat was the wild ride I was promised! See y’all next week!
3:14 am dlschubert: @dawnmetcalf Urban fantasy can’t have kissing? #kidlitchat
3:14 am RebeccAgent: very happy about Charles & Emma rep’ed by my colleague, Ken Wright! #kidlitchat
3:14 am PattyJMurphy: @WriterRoss “Hip” is one way to put it. I don’t think I’ll ever be that hip:) LOL. #kidlitchat
3:14 am WriterRoss: @LauraHamor I agree with anything you agree with. #kidlitchat
3:15 am emilytastic: @dlschubert If it can’t have kissing, then what are @melissa_marr’s books? #kidlitchat
3:15 am EireOz: There should be a LitOlympics instead of awards #kidlitchat
3:15 am geekwriter1: dlschubert: @dawnmetcalf Urban fantasy can’t have kissing? #kidlitchat – this could be a bit of a problem
3:15 am camoulton: @emilytastic Exactly! 1 girl + 2 boys = love triangle despite lack of romance? Yeah, okay, world. #kidlitchat
3:15 am RebeccAgent: pls all welcome my good friend and Brooklyn School librarian and 1st time ALA attendee @deweydecimator #kidlitchat
3:15 am RindaElliott: @dlschubert My agent is marketing my adult series as urban fantasy. It has kissing-but romance isn’t main plot. #kidlitchat
3:15 am joswartz: #kidlitchat thanks, I mostly lurked but enjoyed the part of the session I could keep up with. sleepy time now.
3:16 am WriterRoss: Missed who made comment before (raise your hand) but LOVE D HEILIGMAN’S Charles and Emma. Two Major Prizes. Wonderful, bravo. #kidlitchat
3:16 am LaFabuliste: @PattyJMurphy @WriterRoss But did you see the caption of the two in TIME/LIFE? “Musician Amanda Palmer and guest…” #kidlitchat
3:16 am bonnieadamson: RT @RebeccAgent: pls all welcome my good friend and Brooklyn School librarian and 1st time ALA attendee @deweydecimator #kidlitchat
3:17 am ChristaCarol: Just realized #kidlitchat is going on. Coolness. #kidlitchat
3:17 am RindaElliott: @dlschubert But she called the YA trilogy paranormal romance since each book has a central romance w/the urban fantasy elements. #kidlitchat
3:17 am PattyJMurphy: @LaFabuliste: Yes. He said he didn’t mind that. Must be true love. They are engaged you know:) #kidlitchat
3:17 am stephanieruble: @elanaroth & @RebeccAgent After I read Going Bovine, I hoped it would win & knew it would at least honor w the Don Quixote refs #kidlitchat
3:17 am melissathomson: Hi @deweydecimator! *waving* #kidlitchat
3:17 am DeweyDecimator: @RebeccAgent Hello! Looking at the list now & the new NF is a YALSA awd & Sibert is for “distinguished info book for children.” #kidlitchat
3:17 am WriterRoss: @CateHart Glad you said this. My TweetChat is crawling. #kidlitchat
3:17 am bonnieadamson: @WriterRoss So excited to read CHARLES & EMMA. #kidlitchat
3:18 am elanaroth: @stephanieruble Really? Huh. I’m still deciding what I thought of it, and I finished it a month ago… #kidlitchat
3:18 am happybluejess: @deweydecimator Nice to meet you! #kidlitchat
3:18 am RebeccAgent: @deweydecimator does “children” exclude young adults? #kidlitchat
3:18 am ChristaCarol: @deweydecimator welcome! #kidlitchat
3:18 am LaFabuliste: @PattyJMurphy He’s very smooth like that. But I’m just saying. We’d be hipper if they knew who he was… #kidlitchat
3:18 am WriterRoss: @BonnieAdamson It’s a wonderful book. Thrilled to see it reap rewards. Survival of the fittest and all that… ;> #kidlitchat
3:19 am emilytastic: @camoulton It’s like all the “shipper” stuff. We find romance where there isn’t because we learn that everyone MUST be in pairs. #kidlitchat
3:19 am debbieduncan: @WriterRoss That would be me. @DHeiligman’s C & E won 3 awards: NBA Finalist, YALSA NF, Printz Honor. Whee! #kidlitchat
3:19 am RebeccAgent: @literaticat I thought Marcelo would get Schneider and Printz. Predicting all medals & honors would require superpowers. #kidlitchat
3:19 am camoulton: Urban fantasy CAN have kissing but the plot doesn’t rely on it. If you can take the romance out &still have a plot then it’s UF. #kidlitchat
3:19 am RindaElliott: @jsmithready I called my YAs UF w/ romance. She said since each book has different character & romance, she’d market that way. #kidlitchat
3:20 am bonnieadamson: @WriterRoss Ha! Evolution is in this year–how about Calpurnia Tate? Bought, but not yet read. #kidlitchat
3:20 am literaticat: @RebeccAgent Well, I called two of the Newb honors and one of the Calds – so I’ve got SEMI-superpowers. #kidlitchat
3:20 am stephanieruble: The Don Quixote journey & different references she pulled together made Going Bovine an award winner. Loved tht it was funny 2 #kidlitchat
3:20 am emilytastic: @RebeccAgent Didn’t you know that @literaticat has superpowers? Because she does. #kidlitchat
3:20 am PattyJMurphy: @WriterRoss: More important that your beloved + dear ones know who you are:) In MHO:) #kidlitchat
3:20 am camoulton: @emilytastic I love romance in a book, but I also need a plot that doesn’t revolve around two characters falling in love. #kidlitchat
3:20 am RebeccAgent: I think @egmontgal asked this before. Anyone know when BBYA & notables lists come out? #kidlitchat
3:21 am mayabidaya: Hi!!!! I am Bkln writer!! @RebeccAgent pls all welcome …Brooklyn School librarian and 1st time ALA attendee @deweydecimator #kidlitchat
3:21 am DeweyDecimator: @melissathomson Hello! Thanks for the warm welcome. #kidlitchat
3:21 am bonnieadamson: @debbieduncan Well, I AM a NF fan–can’t wait to read this one! #kidlitchat
3:21 am WriterRoss: @debbieduncan Yes, that was you. (Was just scrawling down to find your name.) A big year for CHARLES AND EMMA. #kidlitchat
3:21 am melissathomson: Funny, for my YA book club for adults, the Nov. book choice was between Marcelo and Going Bovine. (Going Bovine won that vote) #kidlitchat
3:21 am joswartz: RT @DDHearn: RT @WriterRoss: @CateHart An urban fantasy? An affordable apartment with parking. <g> #kidlitchat
3:21 am adamselzer: I wasn’t sure I bought that a high school teacher would assign Don Q. Tough one to teach unless you spend all year on it. #kidlitchat
3:22 am stephanieruble: @elanaroth Fact that you’re still thinking about it is a sign of an award winner too, right? Makes you think. #kidlitchat
3:22 am quirkywriter: Hi @peg366 . No, @mosylu , it wasn’t just you. I finally shut it down, logged onto twitter, whined, and POOF! It was better. #kidlitchat
3:22 am jsmithready: @RindaElliott All the other stuff–setting, “edginess”, etc. is just window dressing to me. It’s abt the chars & story. #kidlitchat
3:22 am bonnieadamson: Aack–I keep getting sucked back in. This was great. Thanks, again, everyone. Toddling off for real now. #kidlitchat
3:22 am elanaroth: @stephanieruble No…I’m more in the line of figuring out whether her experiment worked. And I’m not sure it did. #kidlitchat
3:23 am WriterRoss: @mayabidaya I love that name– DeweyDecimator. Perfect librarian’s superhero moniker. Where in Brooklyn, Dewey? #kidlitchat
3:23 am DeweyDecimator: @RebeccAgent Hmmmm. Interesting question. I think things are changing since the inception of the original Newbery/Caldecott… #kidlitchat
3:23 am RebeccAgent: this yr my MG/YA bk club read Claudette Colvin, When You Reach Me, Marcelo, Evolution of Calpurnia, none of the Printz #kidlitchat
3:23 am joswartz: @adamselzer you think so? I studied way more intense stuff in high school. Way more intense. #kidlitchat
3:23 am emilytastic: @adamselzer Wasn’t it the super-smart class? My AP English class read Crime & Punishment. Boy, I bombed that unit. #kidlitchat
3:23 am debbieduncan: @WriterRoss Nancy Farmer’s HOUSE OF THE SCORPION is the last (only?) book I can think of with 3 stickers. #kidlitchat
3:24 am RindaElliott: @jsmithready Agreed! Now, I’m writing the story I love and letting others worry about the label. I’m cool with either. <G> #kidlitchat
3:24 am LaFabuliste: @joswartz Maybe just because it’s so damned long? It would TAKE all year to get a group of hs-ers to read it. #kidlitchat
3:24 am adamselzer: Esp. since you get the jist (themes, famous scenes, etc) of Don Q in the first 20-30 pages. The next 900 = mostly just for fun. #kidlitchat
3:24 am PattyJMurphy: @elanaroth: I was a bit put off at the beginning and put it down for awhile. I’m not a prude, but… #kidlitchat
3:25 am emilytastic: @debbieduncan I know there are more. like Monster by Myers. #kidlitchat
3:25 am adamselzer: Or, anyway, you get what might come up on a standardized test in the first 20-30 pages. (still on Don Q). #kidlitchat
3:25 am stephanieruble: @elanaroth Oh, I see. I think it worked, but can also see how it wouldn’t work for everyone. #kidlitchat
3:25 am DeweyDecimator: I think content vs. reading level plays a factor. What kids were reading when they were 12 or 14 fifty years ago….#kidlitchat
3:26 am emilytastic: @PattyJMurphy What book, Patty? #kidlitchat
3:26 am joswartz: @LaFabuliste what is happening in HS then these days? It’s not THAT big. (do I sound old? ’cause I am feeling old right now.) #kidlitchat
3:26 am stephanieruble: @RebeccAgent I miss being in a book club. Sounds like you guys are reading great books! #kidlitchat
3:27 am emilytastic: @adamselzer How do you feel about Moby Dick? That was my other high school Nemesis. #kidlitchat
3:27 am elanaroth: @stephanieruble I’ll admit that halfway through I skipped to the last 2 chapters to make sure my hunch was right. It was. Meh. #kidlitchat
3:27 am DeweyDecimator: …is very different from what kids that same age are reading today. Kid/YA lit has really expanded from back inthe day. #kidlitchat
3:27 am LaFabuliste: @joswartz I graduated in 2004. My AP Eng read Heart of Darkness, Invisible Man, C&P over summer… trying to think of others #kidlitchat
3:27 am juliadevillers: Agree with @stephanieruble. What’s next for your book club @RebeccAgent #kidlitchat
3:28 am joswartz: @LaFabuliste I know my niece did Homer’s The Odyssey as did I, that is not an easy or quick read. #kidlitchat
3:28 am RebeccAgent: @juliadevillers we always read the Newbery in Feb & Printz in March but will read Printz nxt since we already read WYRM #kidlitchat
3:29 am LaFabuliste: @joswartz Classics, sure, but lots o’ poetry and lots and lots of test prep/writing. #kidlitchat
3:29 am literaticat: I wish that HOW TO SAY GOODBYE IN ROBOT won an award. And that I could marry it. #kidlitchat
3:29 am chasingray: Tales of the Madman Underground is outstanding (in my next column). You should read it. #kidlitchat
3:29 am dlschubert: @RindaElliott Thanks – interesting! #kidlitchat
3:30 am melissathomson: Thanks for great chat, everyone. Off to fiddle w/ WIP, tentatively titled WINNER OF THE PRINTZ AWARD. (Sorry, Jincy Willett) #kidlitchat
3:30 am LaFabuliste: @literaticat I’m sure you could, in some states. #kidlitchat
3:30 am debbieduncan: @emilytastic Right. I’m *sure* there are more. My MONSTER is pre-sticker, so I didn’t picture that one. HOLES was NBA & Newbery. #kidlitchat
3:30 am literaticat: I concur, Colleen – Loved MADMAN UNDERGROUND! #kidlitchat
3:30 am mayabidaya: Getting tired… Tuning out… Nice chatting chatty kid litters #kidlitchat
3:30 am stephanieruble: @elanaroth I got there half way through too but story was about journey, so it wrkd 4 me. Had 2 end tht way but wish it didn’t. #kidlitchat
3:30 am DeweyDecimator: @RebeccAgent So maybe that’s why the need for a clearer distinction, for more awards & more categories. #kidlitchat
3:31 am joswartz: #kidlitchat definitely done for the night. thanks all.
3:31 am elanaroth: @literaticat I’m just over halfway through ROBOT. I have to say, I like the voice but having trouble with character development. #kidlitchat
3:31 am emilytastic: @debbieduncan There are a lot that have Coretta Scott King & another award, or NBA and Printz or Newbery #kidlitchat
3:31 am juliadevillers: @literaticat Ha. My daughter said GOODBYE IN ROBOT was “even better than one book of Twilight!! Not whole series but still.” #kidlitchat
3:31 am emilytastic: @literaticat I need to get my hands on Madman Underground, it looks delicious. #kidlitchat
3:31 am elanaroth: @stephanieruble I liked a lot of the symbolism and wackiness. But maybe it was too rambly of a story for me. #kidlitchat
3:31 am KrisYankee: Just now home from PTO mtg so I totally missed #kidlitchat! SO glad there are transcripts.
3:31 am DeweyDecimator: ALA keeps adding categories to the YMA. Audio, translation, early reader. Predictions for award categories of the future? #kidlitchat
3:32 am RebeccAgent: I don’t think I want more categories. For ex. less likely a graphic novel wins Caldecott if there is category just for gn #kidlitchat
3:32 am debbieduncan: Anyone know when ALA Notables list will be out? Always good. Hope other faves will be on it. #kidlitchat
3:32 am emilytastic: @literaticat What award?! I just got ROBOT in the mail today #bookshoppingguilt #kidlitchat
3:32 am PattyJMurphy: Goodnight everybody! Have a great week of writing, editing, and agenting.Thanks for another great chat:) #kidlitchat
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