Kidlitchat Transcript – January 19 (part 1)
2:01 am kidlitchat: TOPIC: Hooray ALA award winners! Share your thoughts about the winners/honorees and also the importance (or lack of) of awards. #kidlitchat
2:01 am KatGirl_Studio: hey everyone! Stormy night out #kidlitchat
2:01 am bonnieadamson: @elanaroth Hi, there–at least a few of us are here. #kidlitchat
2:01 am gregpincus: TOPIC: Hooray ALA award winners! Share your thoughts about the winners/honorees and also the importance (or lack of) of awards. #kidlitchat
2:01 am paulgreci: @BonnieAdamson Oh good! You see me! #kidlitchat
2:01 am bonnieadamson: TOPIC: Hooray ALA award winners! Share your thoughts about the winners/honorees and also the importance (or lack of) of awards. #kidlitchat
2:01 am laurielyoung: I’m here! (only slightly late.) #kidlitchat
2:02 am bonnieadamson: @paulgreci Yes–maybe we can have our own little chat! 
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2:02 am katefall: Hi everyone chatting! #kidlitchat
2:02 am lyonmartin: @BonnieAdamson I’m here #kidlitchat
2:03 am jennymckmoss: Am I here? #kidlitchat
2:03 am JenniferLMeyer: @bonnieadamson Im here too. #kidlitchat
2:03 am inkyelbows: #kidlitchat is on NOW. Topic: ALA awards, winners & honorees, importance (or lack thereof) of the awards.
2:03 am comagrrl: Hi, everyone. #kidlitchat
2:03 am juliaakarr: I am here #kidlitchat
2:03 am bonnieadamson: @bookyhall lol–no problem! #kidlitchat
2:03 am lyonmartin: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: Hooray ALA award winners! Share your thoughts about the winners/honorees & also the importance of awards. #kidlitchat
2:04 am marybrebner: Checked out Newbery Medal winner from library–so far it’s intriguing. #kidlitchat
2:04 am RebeccAgent: take two. I’m here #kidlitchat
2:04 am whitneymiller: Flash Burnout was one of my favorite books of the year. Was SO thrilled to see it win the Morris! #kidlitchat
2:04 am bonnieadamson: Good–things are picking up! has everyone seen awards news? My pick for Newbery won. #kidlitchat
2:04 am Shelltex: Hi all! #kidlitchat
2:04 am adamselzer: The awards will get some BADLY needed exposure to books that AREN’T paranormal. Only way to get some great books noticed. #kidlitchat
2:04 am RebeccAgent: I am very biased on this as Grace Lin’s agent #kidlitchat
2:04 am LyndaslineArt: RT @BonnieAdamson: TOPIC: Hooray ALA award winners! Share ur thoughts about winners/honorees & importance (or lack)of awards. #kidlitchat
2:05 am DDHearn: I”ve just arrived. Congratulations to the big winners today, and I’m not talking about the election in Massachusetts. #kidlitchat
2:05 am debbieduncan: Me too! RT @whitneymiller: Flash Burnout was one of my favorite books of the year. Was SO thrilled to see it win the Morris! #kidlitchat
2:05 am swdooley: Hoping this means my local library will get at least one of these books #kidlitchat
2:05 am bonnieadamson: @RebeccAgent Congratulations to both of you! Such a beautiful book. #kidlitchat
2:05 am YolaRamunno: Hi everyone! #kidlitchat
2:05 am gregpincus: @RebeccAgent bias is fine on this topic. #kidlitchat
2:06 am CynthiaCWillis: Hello! Hoping TweetChat behaves this week. #kidlitchat
2:06 am curiousmartha: I’m here for at least a little bit! #kidlitchat
2:06 am juliaakarr: So great to see When You Reach Me as the Newbery! #kidlitchat
2:06 am debbieohi: I’ve added more titles to my “To Read” list because of the awards. #kidlitchat
2:06 am susan_marie: @RebeccAgent Congratulations on the beautiful book with Grace Lin and on the Newbery honor as well. But, first of all, the book! #kidlitchat
2:06 am jennymckmoss: Tried to find WHEN YOU REACH ME @ B&N on Sat & they didn’t have it. So disappointed! They better put them on shelves now #kidlitchat
2:06 am DDHearn: @swdooley The honors will be a good reason to get the libraries to order the books. #kidlitchat
2:06 am gregpincus: @RebeccAgent and congratulations to you and @pacylin – Al Roker and an honor. Quite a year! #kidlitchat
2:06 am whitneymiller: And Going Bovine…well, it’s a beautiful, hilarious, heartbreaking book about EVERYTHING. Love it. Awesome Printz choice. #kidlitchat
2:06 am KarenMusings: Hello everyone. Is there a topic tonight? Are we talking about the ALA awards? #kidlitchat
2:07 am DDHearn: I hate to admit I haven’t had the chance to read the winners, but hope to soon. #kidlitchat
2:07 am CynthiaCWillis: RT @debbieohi: Ive added more titles to my “To Read” list because of the awards. Yes, me too! #kidlitchat
2:07 am bonnieadamson: @KarenMusings Awards in general. #kidlitchat
2:07 am Shelltex: Loved When You Reach Me and Going Bovine. Glad to see them win. #kidlitchat
2:07 am SuePinto: Yes, hoping my library gets When You Reach Me RT @swdooley: Hoping this means my library will get at least 1 of these books #kidlitchat
2:07 am debbieduncan: Loved watching award winners “appear” on Twitter, even at 5 AM! #kidlitchat
2:07 am debbieohi: I appreciate those who tweeted re: the awards as they were happening. It was fun getting the news that way. #kidlitchat
2:07 am laurielyoung: Oh yes, me too! RT @debbieohi: Ive added more titles to my “To Read” list because of the awards. #kidlitchat
2:08 am emilytastic: As always, a lot of the award winners came out of left field for me, except for the Newbery, for once! #kidlitchat
2:08 am CynthiaCWillis: @DDHearn I haven’t had a chance to read them all, either. But now I’m excited to dive in! #kidlitchat
2:08 am marjorielight: Did I mention Rebecca Stead is already booked to come to my school 3-1-10? All students have read WHEN YOU REACH ME! #kidlitchat
2:08 am WritingSpirit: rt @inkyelbows #kidlitchat is on NOW. Topic: ALA awards, winners & honorees, importance (or lack thereof) of the awards.
2:08 am marybrebner: Love @libbabray but haven’t read GOING BOVINE yet–heard great buzz about it on Twitter. A must-read now! Great Printz choice. #kidlitchat
2:08 am debbieohi: Especially exciting when RH leaked the news about the Newbery! 
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2:08 am YolaRamunno: I always make it a point to read the award winning books. #kidlitchat
2:08 am DDHearn: I think second part of topic is the importance of awards. Certainly Newberry and Caldecott must help exposure and sales. #kidlitchat
2:08 am bonnieadamson: So where do awards have the most impact? Readers? Library sales? #kidlitchat
2:08 am NatalieHatch: Going Bovine not released here yet, but loved When You Reach ME #kidlitchat
2:09 am KarenMusings: I really enjoyed reading When You Reach Me. It was always a front runner for me for the Newbery. Now I have others for TBR pile. #kidlitchat
2:09 am SarahDarerLitt: Was sorry that Marcelo in the Real World didn’t get a Printz Honor at least #kidlitchat
2:09 am debbieohi: @marjorielight I loved WHEN YOU REACH ME, too! Your students are lucky. #kidlitchat
2:09 am comagrrl: I’m still waiting for Going Bovine from the library. #kidlitchat
2:09 am marybrebner: @marjorielight You hit it at just the right time! Lucky you and lucky kids to have new Newbery Medal winner for author’s visit #kidlitchat
2:09 am DDHearn: @bonnieadamson I’m sure that the big awards have an impact on library sales. And this would mean more people get to see them. #kidlitchat
2:10 am KarenMusings: @bonnieadamson I think library sales really have an impact. My library has a “Newbery” section with several copies of titles #kidlitchat
2:10 am DDHearn: Also, wouldn’t all the bookstores carry the award winning titles? #kidlitchat
2:10 am CynthiaCWillis: I’d say the awards = big sales and many more readers and fantastic exposure (of course). #kidlitchat
2:10 am SarahDarerLitt: @bonnieadamson Newbery guarantees you won’t go out of print. Huge sales boost. #kidlitchat
2:10 am PattyJMurphy: @bonnieadamson: Hi, Bonnie…and fellow kidlit chatters:) #kidlitchat
2:10 am bonnieadamson: @SarahDarerLitt MitRW got a Schneider Family award, though, right? At least it was represented. #kidlitchat
2:10 am whitneymiller: I do wonder if there’s an appreciable impact in any area. I fear only the Newberry has the brand recognition required to do so. #kidlitchat
2:10 am emilytastic: @SarahDarerLitt but it was recognized, by the Snyder Family (I think?) award. #kidlitchat
2:10 am comagrrl: Loved When You Reach Me. #kidlitchat
2:10 am SarahDarerLitt: Last year’s titles were on NYT bestseller List #kidlitchat
2:10 am debbieohi: @PattyJMurphy Hi Patty! #kidlitchat
2:11 am RebeccAgent: the awards are of EXTREME importance. They make careers and turn attention to kids books in general. #kidlitchat
2:11 am bonnieadamson: @PattyJMurphy Hi, Patty #kidlitchat
2:11 am gregpincus: @bookyhall Graveyard Book wasn’t exactly quiet, was it? (Oh, and use #kidlitchat so the whole group sees us!)
2:11 am stephanieruble: Hi everyone! #kidlitchat
2:11 am PattyJMurphy: @bonnieadamson BTW: Where’s Greg? Is the raining keeping him away? #kidlitchat
2:11 am marjorielight: Oh…and not to brag, but @tanyaleestone w/ ALMOST ASTRONAUTS was here last spring! #kidlitchat
2:11 am katefall: My local B&N keeps a fully stocked Newbery shelf, ceiling to floor. #kidlitchat
2:11 am lyonmartin: @bonnieadamson My little book won an award in Jine and sales doubled. & it was niche market award. Wonder what a Newberry does. #kidlitchat
2:11 am DDHearn: @whitneymiller I think the Caldecott carries the same weight. But perhaps the other awards, not so much? #kidlitchat
2:11 am bonnieadamson: Well, you get to live forever on the Newbery shelf at B&N, for one thing. #kidlitchat
2:11 am dlschubert: RT @RebeccAgent the awards are of EXTREME importance. They make careers and turn attention to kids books in general. #kidlitchat
2:11 am debbieduncan: WHEN YOU REACH ME was the first Newbery I called a will-win-for-sure since HOLES. LOVED it. My YA reading it now. #kidlitchat
2:11 am bonnieadamson: @PattyJMurphy He’s here! #kidlitchat
2:11 am RebeccAgent: the books have a significantly longer shelf life, become a priority for libraries, the classroom and retail outlets #kidlitchat
2:11 am PattyJMurphy: RT @debbieohi: @PattyJMurphy Hi Patty! <<–Hey, Deb. Good to see you:) #kidlitchat
2:11 am marjorielight: @marybrebner I know…the kids squealed when they found out @rebeccastead won! #kidlitchat
2:11 am EgmontGal: Newb and Cald WINNING have greatest effect on sales. Honor books do better sales wisewhen there are fewer honor bks #kidlitchat
2:11 am smolkingmerrors: I’m not so sure, I know I certainly didn’t care about books when I was growing up or know what they were. #kidlitchat
2:12 am juliaakarr: RT @RebeccAgent: the awards are of EXTREME importance. They make careers and turn attention to kids books in general. #kidlitchat
2:12 am bonnieadamson: @lyonmartin Congratulations! That’s cause & effect for you! #kidlitchat
2:12 am dawnbonnevie: #kidlitchat My first graders notice immediately if a book has an award on the cover…it matters a lot to them.
2:12 am EgmontGal: Yes, Newb and Cald by far biggest sales bump. Going Bovine not as much since it already has huge sales but a great prestige #kidlitchat
2:12 am smolkingmerrors: I mean awards, not books. #kidlitchat
2:12 am LaFabuliste: #kidlitchat! Hello!
2:12 am emilytastic: I just have to say, my city of Austin really represented this year. Jacqueline Kelly, Liz Garton Scanlon, & Chris Barton! GO ATX #kidlitchat
2:12 am hatbooks: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: Hooray ALA award winners! Share your thoughts re. winners/honorees importance (or lack of) of awards. #kidlitchat
2:12 am CynthiaCWillis: It seems like the award winners live forever. #kidlitchat
2:13 am RebeccAgent: @egmontgal I am happy there are 3 other wonderful honor books with WTMMTM #kidlitchat
2:13 am debbieohi: RT @EgmontGal: Newb & Cald WINNING have greatest effect on sales. Honor bks do better sales wisewhen there are fewer honor bks #kidlitchat
2:13 am malindalo: I loved FLASH BURNOUT, but also highly rec Nina LaCour’s HOLD STILL (Morris nom). Complicated, emotional, true. #kidlitchat
2:13 am bonnieadamson: @debbieduncan This will definitely be the year of the crowd-pleaser. #kidlitchat
2:13 am adamselzer: YOU might not have cared about awards as a kid, but the people who decided what to stock in your bookstores did. #kidlitchat
2:13 am gregpincus: @EgmontGal Thanks for the sales perspective. Do the other ALA awards (Sibert, Geisel, etc) help? In the library market moreso? #kidlitchat
2:13 am dawnbonnevie: #kidlitchat Maine has the Chickadee awards, kids vote. The librarian makes a big deal of it, but kids LOVE it!
2:13 am RebeccAgent: and wish CSK and Caldecott gave the max # of honors as well #kidlitchat
2:13 am EgmontGal: Only agree 90% w/ @rebeccagent. A Newb or Cal honor will be great for that book, but you can be forgotten in 5 years #kidlitchat
2:13 am RebeccAgent: if you can bring attn to 5 great books in a category, why only recognize 2 or 3?? #kidlitchat
2:13 am laurielyoung: Will definitely read the Newberrys–already had 2 of 3 Caldecotts, looking into other winners #kidlitchat
2:13 am whitneymiller: Good to hear from the experts that there IS a positive sales impact That’s wonderful news! #kidlitchat
2:14 am EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent yes, but caldecott honor books sell better in a 2 honor book year than in a 4 honor book year usually #kidlitchat
2:14 am RebeccAgent: I do think you need to do more with an honor to keep it on shelves #kidlitchat
2:14 am PattyJMurphy: @bonnieadamson: I think the awards = yardsticks for all writers to measure themselves against. It raises the bar. #kidlitchat
2:14 am tardisgrl: @EgmontGal was kind of surprised only 2 Cald honor books named this year #kidlitchat
2:14 am LaFabuliste: @EgmontGal Good point. Looking back and back through the decades, I don’t know half of the titles that won the Newb. #kidlitchat
2:14 am swdooley: I still remember gazing at the poster of Newbery winners in my 4th grade classroom and reading and rereading the titles #kidlitchat
2:14 am dlschubert: Great point. RT @adamselzer YOU might not have cared abt awards as a kid, but folks who decided what to stock in bookstores did. #kidlitchat
2:14 am marjorielight: @debbieohi We are feeling VERY fortunate! We get 1 author visit this year & @katemessner read Stead’s ARC & passed it around #kidlitchat
2:14 am emilytastic: @EgmontGal I agree w/ you Elizabeth. You can only ride that initial buzz for so long. Your BOOK has to make a lasting impact. #kidlitchat
2:14 am RebeccAgent: the author and/or illus most continue to produce great books for one #kidlitchat
2:14 am hatbooks: I read Where the Mtn Meets the Moon as ARC for Japanese pub and highly rec’d it. So glad to see it receive an honor! #kidlitchat
2:14 am onbeyondwords: Hi everyone – I remember even as a kid, being drawn to the shiny metallic stickers on the winning books at the bookstore #kidlitchat
2:15 am EgmontGal: @rebeccagent it’s more a question of follow up. If you were an honor author, not so much sales bump 2 books later. #kidlitchat
2:15 am bonnieadamson: As a parent, I paid attention to the Newbery, certainly. #kidlitchat
2:15 am LaFabuliste: Used to work at a library. Stole a Newb sticker and stuck it to the front of my writing journal. Motivation! #kidlitchat
2:15 am EgmontGal: Also, a newbery honor paperback will prob stay in print for eons, but pic books not surviving in paperback #kidlitchat
2:15 am KarenMusings: @onbeyondwords I remember those shiny stickers too! It drew me in but then again I was a book worm child. #kidlitchat
2:15 am RebeccAgent: and getting that seal helps the recipient sell the next book in a way that better guarantees it’s prominence #kidlitchat
2:15 am YolaRamunno: @onbeyondwords Me too. Every book I chose had to have the golden circle. #kidlitchat
2:15 am hatbooks: I watched ALA webcast with my 14 yr old…great to hear her excitement re. books in our house #kidlitchat
2:15 am EgmontGal: at viking for example, all our newb honor books in print in paper. cald honor not so #kidlitchat
2:16 am emilytastic: I was never drawn to “award” books. But when I was a bookseller, I had a lot of grandmas who refused to buy any non-award titles #kidlitchat
2:16 am debbieduncan: @bonnieadamson Yep. NYT story said as much. Terrific piece: http://bit.ly/6uUh7O #kidlitchat
2:16 am juliaakarr: definitely – lots of expectations there RT @RebeccAgent the author and/or illus most continue to produce great books for one #kidlitchat
2:16 am LyndaslineArt: RT @BonnieAdamson: As a parent, I paid attention to the Newbery, certainly. #kidlitchat #moms
2:16 am KellyDHouse: Question: how do these books et nominated for the awards? Agents? Editors? Authors? #kidlitchat
2:16 am EgmontGal: Printz honor will help some of those YAs significantly in terms of sales I am very glad for them #kidlitchat
2:16 am RebeccAgent: sorry its not it’s. I know my grammar. I swear. #kidlitchat
2:16 am nkrell: Agents/Editors, what’s your personal preference? Huge commercial success or Newberry/Caldecott winner? #kidlitchat
2:16 am comagrrl: @LaFabuliste Awesome! #kidlitchat
2:16 am stephanieruble: Happy with the winners this year, esp. Newbery, Caledecott & Printz. #kidlitchat
2:16 am PattyJMurphy: RT @onbeyondwords: I remember even as a kid, being drawn to the shiny metallic stickers <<-But, we all read Charlotte’s Web… #kidlitchat
2:16 am bonnieadamson: @debbieduncan Thanks for the link! #kidlitchat
2:16 am marjorielight: HA! I don’t know about sales, but my blog hits went up ’cause I’d reviewed 2 of them! #kidlitchat
2:17 am adamselzer: Frankly, these days if you aren’t writing paranormal, you almost have to rely on awards just to start showing up in stores. #kidlitchat
2:17 am YolaRamunno: @nkrell Good question. #kidlitchat
2:17 am hatbooks: those awards mean many foreign rights sales… #kidlitchat
2:17 am EgmontUSA: Hi folks! Big computer troubles, but I made it. Phew! #kidlitchat
2:17 am onbeyondwords: @KarenMusings I was a bookworm kid too – but bookworms notice things like stickers – they’re immersed in the world of books #kidlitchat
2:17 am rachelarrr: @KellyDHouse Basically, selected committees of librarians narrow down the books (sent by pubs) and eventually choose winners. #kidlitchat
2:17 am EgmontGal: @KellyDHouse books get nom’ed for new cald and printz by people serving on the awards committeesall are librarians or critics #kidlitchat
2:18 am bonnieadamson: @adamselzer Fully half YA shelf at Target is vampires. #kidlitchat
2:18 am EgmontGal: 1st, I have to go with big commercial success. That will keep me employed a lot longer! But nothing more gratifying than a win #kidlitchat
2:18 am EgmontGal: Who said the awards guarantee foreign sales? That is not at all true–depends on subject or art style #kidlitchat
2:18 am PattyJMurphy: RT @adamselzer: These days if you arent writing paranormal, you almost have to rely on awards…<<– Sorry, I don’t agree. #kidlitchat
2:19 am adamselzer: @bonnieadamson and the rest is fallen angels, movie-tie-ins and maybe an award winner or two. #kidlitchat
2:19 am bonnieadamson: RT @hatbooks: those awards mean many foreign rights sales… #kidlitchat
2:19 am emilytastic: @bonnieadamson Yes, but that is TARGET. The other half was Gossip Girl-type, no? V. different from “real” bookstores. #kidlitchat
2:19 am DDHearn: How many books are usually nominated for Caldecott or Newberry? #kidlitchat
2:19 am juliaakarr: juliaakarr @nkrell I want them both! lol #kidlitchat
2:19 am comagrrl: @bonnieadamson Which is really sad if you don’t like vampires. #kidlitchat
2:19 am Shelltex: My uneducated guess about the buyers for books at Target & WalMart is they’re not really “book” people like at book stores. #kidlitchat
2:19 am stephanieruble: RT @EgmontGal Also, a newbery honor paperback will prob stay in print for eons, but pic books not surviving in paperback #kidlitchat
2:19 am RebeccAgent: one thing I was upset about re: awards as @egmontgal already pointed out was Betsy Partridge’s Marching for Freedom shut out #kidlitchat
2:20 am PattyJMurphy: RT @emilytastic: Yes, but that is TARGET. The other half was Gossip Girl-type, no? V. different from “real” bookstores. #kidlitchat
2:20 am emilytastic: @EgmontGal I would have liked to see a couple Egmont titles seen by the awards. Is it harder for a smaller/newer press? #kidlitchat
2:20 am gregpincus: So, are there other awards beyond the ALA (and National Book Award) that have real impact? #kidlitchat
2:20 am EgmontGal: @DDHearn The nominations list is secret. People on committees take a lifetime vow never to discuss the process, often violated #kidlitchat
2:20 am mrswritebrain: Anyone seen the article on the Nbery being less of an “honor” lately? Something about them not being as substantial as in past? #kidlitchat
2:20 am hatbooks: @EgmontGal did not say “guarantee” but they do mean sales…Japanese pubs pay very close attention… #kidlitchat
2:20 am adamselzer: @emilytastic Even in “real” bookstores, just about anything that isn’t paranormal is being ignored these days. Just not selling. #kidlitchat
2:20 am bonnieadamson: @emilytastic True, but aren’t big retailers taking over popular sales? They are for pbs. #kidlitchat
2:20 am emilytastic: @Shelltex Amen, Shelli. Just like you aren’t going to find indie rock records there either. #kidlitchat
2:21 am bonnieadamson: @comagrrl Yep, like me. 
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2:21 am EgmontGal: @gregpincus I’m not sure the Nat book award always has impact. If book is already big, not much. If unknown, it helps a lot #kidlitchat
2:21 am adamselzer: @mrswritebrain People say that for every award. ALways have. #kidlitchat
2:21 am steveedw: Will eBooks change parents awareness of award winning stories and dilute things? #kidlitchat
2:21 am lyonmartin: What is paranormal besides Vampires and Werewolves? #kidlitchat
2:21 am SarahDarerLitt: @adamselzer My agent said something similar. Realistic YA a hard sell. #kidlitchat
2:21 am emilytastic: @adamselzer I was a bookseller at an indie until v. recently. I had a lot of kids tell me “I’m so sick of vampires.” #kidlitchat
2:21 am RebeccAgent: @gregpincus the Texas Bluebonnet list has real impact #kidlitchat
2:21 am tehawesomersace: @emilytastic Not so different. In Borders on Monday had to ask for Going Bovine. Was hidden on back shelf behind Vamp Academy. #kidlitchat
2:21 am LiaKeyes: Apologies for being late – can you enlighten me re topic for tonight? #kidlitchat
2:21 am LaurelSnyder: @gregpincus Well, the *Grammy* didn’t hurt Madonna’s picture book sales. (heh) #kidlitchat
2:21 am PattyJMurphy: RT @RebeccAgent: One thing I was upset @ re: awards as @egmontgal already said was Marching for Freedom shut out << Whattashame! #kidlitchat
2:21 am mosylu: @gregpincus aren’t there a lot of kid’s choice type awards out there? #kidlitchat
2:21 am EgmontGal: @mrswritebrain which of the endless “newberys aren’t good these days” article are you referring to? Not anita silvey’s? #kidlitchat
2:21 am gregpincus: @mrswritebrain The “ain’t what it used to be” is said about the Oscars, Grammy’s and every other award, too. #kidlitchat
2:21 am emilytastic: @bonnieadamson I don’t think so. I don’t know many people who shop for books at Target/Wal-Mart. #kidlitchat
2:22 am tehawesomersace: @adamselzer Totally agree, unless it’s like Pretty Little Liars or Gossip Girl… #kidlitchat
2:22 am comagrrl: @bonnieadamson Phew! Me too. Now I don’t feel so alone. #kidlitchat
2:22 am emilytastic: @tehawesomersace Borders terrifies me. Business-wise, I hear they are a sinking ship. #kidlitchat
2:22 am DDHearn: @lyonmartin I would call zombies and ghosts paranormal. Angels, demons. Any others? #kidlitchat
2:22 am mosylu: maybe not to the same volume, but kids listen to other kids #kidlitchat
2:22 am paulgreci: The YA section in our indie bookstore is 30% realistic. #kidlitchat
2:22 am EgmontGal: I would love to know what happened to Marching for Freedom and the Sibert. Best reviewed nonfiction book of the year. #kidlitchat
2:22 am gregpincus: @RebeccAgent I would think other state reading lists also have impact on sales, don’t they? #kidlitchat
2:23 am nkrell: @emilytastic Re: Wal Mart- I agree. Zero selection. #kidlitchat
2:23 am mosylu: @DDHearn technically speaking, anything that’s published that year, I believe #kidlitchat
2:23 am EgmontGal: @emilytastic We all need to shop at Borders. So much better for everyone here if we have 2 bookstore chains, trust me! #kidlitchat
2:23 am bonnieadamson: @adamselzer sigh. yes–but I did snag a copy of Cathing Fire. Had to hunt for it . . . #kidlitchat
2:23 am gregpincus: True! RT @LaurelSnyder: @gregpincus Well, the *Grammy* didn’t hurt Madonna’s picture book sales. (heh) #kidlitchat
2:23 am comagrrl: @lyonmartin Good question. Let’s ask the agents. #kidlitchat
2:23 am KarenMusings: Is this also related to “tayshas”? RT @RebeccAgent: @gregpincus the Texas Bluebonnet list has real impact #kidlitchat
2:23 am mtechman: interesting #kidlitchat tonight re awards, publishing – good tweets from @EgmontGal
2:23 am marjorielight: We had an ALA party in class today to celebrate the wins! My 7th graders LOVE to read! #kidlitchat
2:23 am RebeccAgent: @egmontgal best reviewed for good reason! #kidlitchat
2:23 am SarahDarerLitt: @paulgreci Yay! There’s hope for me yet 
#kidlitchat
2:23 am tehawesomersace: @emilytastic But compared to my BN, they have 2x the selection. Other option is Amazon, the other *evil* #kidlitchat
2:23 am susan_marie: @EgmontGal Oh, if the walls had ears! Those committees must have extraordinary conversations. #kidlitchat
2:23 am Shelltex: I like Borders okay, if I have to shop at a chain. #kidlitchat
2:23 am hatbooks: RT @gregpincus: So, are there other awards beyond the ALA (and National Book Award) that have real impact? #kidlitchat
2:24 am comagrrl: 221 more tweets? OMG! #kidlitchat
2:24 am LaurelSnyder: @gregpincus #kidlitchat So now I have a new plan: Win a Grammy (or maybe an Oscar) and THEN sell loads of books. It’ll be cake!
2:24 am LiaKeyes: Topic, pleases? #kidlitchat
2:24 am laurielyoung: And yet, for much of country, WM is their main retail outlet RT @nkrell: @emilytastic Re: Wal Mart- I agree. Zero selection. #kidlitchat
2:24 am mosylu: @emilytastic I was in borders tonight, and Going Bovine was sitting unmarked while stacks of Twilight danced in front of it #kidlitchat
2:24 am bonnieadamson: @emilytastic Marketing departments still salivate over Target, Walmart orders. #kidlitchat
2:24 am RebeccAgent: also, I am biased, but I would have loved to see Caldecott committee recognize a gn (yes, a certain gn preferably) #kidlitchat
2:24 am EgmontGal: @susan_marie I know! There are things I would love to know. #kidlitchat
2:24 am DDHearn: RT @susan_marie: @EgmontGal Oh, if the walls had ears! Those committees must have extraordinary conversations. #kidlitchat
2:24 am emilytastic: @KarenMusings The Lonestar, Tayshas, and Bluebonnet lists are all put out by the Texas Library Assoc. They’re for dif. ages. #kidlitchat
2:24 am adamselzer: I’d like to have my books in Target. But if Walmart tries to stock me, I’ll stop calling the evil chain in my books “Megamart.” #kidlitchat
2:24 am CynthiaCWillis: RT @marjorielight: We had an ALA party in class today to celebrate the wins! My 7th graders LOVE to read!– This is so great! #kidlitchat
2:24 am mrswritebrain: http://bit.ly/79qklO has some interesting links -one from school lib. journal. I love some of the recent winners, btw. #kidlitchat
2:24 am emilytastic: @LiaKeyes ALA Youth Media Awards #kidlitchat
2:24 am rachelarrr: @mosylu Yes, even self-pubbed are technically eligible if they’re sent to the committees. #kidlitchat
2:24 am onbeyondwords: I buy award winning books – but when buying books I do what my mother – a writer – taught me. Don’t read the flaps – read page 1 #kidlitchat
2:24 am KarenMusings: @LiaKeyes ALA awards and awards in general. #kidlitchat
2:24 am bonnieadamson: @comagrrl Yeah, I just don’t get it, lol. I like my boyfriends human and, you know, warm. #kidlitchat
2:25 am Shelltex: Do the award stickers ship to the bookstores to go on current stock or do they ship new copies with stickers? #kidlitchat
2:25 am PattyJMurphy: @EgmontGal: Even the book awards are all about yearning:) #kidlitchat
2:25 am erinbowbooks: Here in Ontario, the “Forest of Reading” awards have real — if only local — impact. #kidlitchat
2:25 am nkrell: Aren’t we glad the Hollywood Foreign Press wasn’t in charge of the ALA? #kidlitchat
2:25 am debbieohi: @LiaKeyes Topic is ALA awards. You can always find the full topic at @kidlitchat, by the way. #kidlitchat
2:25 am emilytastic: @BonnieAdamson I think there is a certain “type” of book that is v. v. marketable at TArget/Wal-Mart. And you already nailed it! #kidlitchat
2:25 am peg366: RT @bonnieadamson: @comagrrl Yeah, I just dont get it, lol. I like my boyfriends human and, you know, warm. #kidlitchat
2:25 am LiaKeyes: @emilytastic @KarenMusings Thanks so much! #kidlitchat
2:25 am laurielyoung: they order larger qtys RT @bonnieadamson: @emilytastic Marketing departments still salivate over Target, Walmart orders. #kidlitchat
2:25 am melissathomson: When I was in 5th grade I wrote a letter asking to be on the Newbery Committee. Ha! Never got the nerve to send it. #kidlitchat
2:25 am RebeccAgent: the bluebonnet is used strongly in curriculum in TX schools and that’s a big state. It means a very nice sales bump #kidlitchat
2:25 am hatbooks: @gregpincus Astrid Lindgren award is big internationally… #kidlitchat
2:25 am niki_smith: @RebeccAgent I would definitely love to see a GN get recognized! #kidlitchat
2:26 am KarenMusings: @emilytastic Thanks. I even know about the Texas awards and their lists and I live in Georgia, LOL. #kidlitchat
2:26 am emilytastic: @Shelltex Bookstores have to pay an arm and a leg for the award stickers. I think sometimes the pub sends some? Maybe? #kidlitchat
2:26 am jennymckmoss: Natural 2 think abt sales impact w/ awards but I’d b overthemoon if librarians thot something I wrote award-worthy what an honor #kidlitchat
2:26 am WriterRoss: @Shelltex Borders employees keep a blog on LJ. Talk about watching how sausage is made. Behind the scenes there = NOT pretty. #kidlitchat
2:26 am EgmontGal: @nkrell what are you talking about? All pubs wine and dine the committees just like the hollywood foreign press is courted. #kidlitchat
2:26 am DDHearn: Cokely just conceded to Brown in Mass. election. (sorry if spelled wrong.) #kidlitchat
2:26 am RebeccAgent: @melissathomson ok that’s adorable! #kidlitchat
2:26 am marjorielight: @CynthiaCWillis Our school has SUCH a culture of reading…ALL students have SSR daily & we have a GREAT library! #kidlitchat
2:26 am susan_marie: Wow. RT @mosylu I was in Borders tonight, and Going Bovine was sitting unmarked while stacks of Twilight danced in front of it #kidlitchat
2:26 am LiaKeyes: @debbieohi Ooh, thank you, now following @kidlitchat. Stupid me. #kidlitchat
2:26 am emilytastic: @KarenMusings I’m from New England and it’s the first thing I learned as a bookseller in TX. #kidlitchat
2:26 am dawnmetcalf: @LaurelSnyder Good plan! Sign me up. #kidlitchat
2:26 am bonnieadamson: State awards in general are good news for library sales, yes? #kidlitchat
2:27 am DDHearn: @peg366 I enjoyed Twilight to a point, but the thought of Bella cuddling up against stone cold Edward was not appealing to me. #kidlitchat
2:27 am debbieohi: @WriterRoss What’s the url? (for the Borders employee blog) #kidlitchat
2:27 am EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent Bluebonnet nom helps sales nicely.Winning is kind of a drag. Sales don’t move more but we have to fly au to Tex! #kidlitchat
2:27 am Shelltex: @WriterRoss Hmm, now I want to check out that Borders blog. It’s always fun to watch the carnage for a small amount of time. #kidlitchat
2:27 am nkrell: @EgmontGal Yes, but the ALA didn’t choose Avatar as the film of the year, did they? #kidlitchat
2:27 am JenniferLMeyer: @lyonmartin Ghosts, zombies, angels, demons, most of the normal supernatural. Its usually the western versions. #kidlitchat
2:27 am CynthiaCWillis: @marjorielight Wow… If only more schools could be like yours! #kidlitchat
2:27 am gregpincus: And nice prize money, too. RT @hatbooks: @gregpincus Astrid Lindgren award is big internationally… #kidlitchat
2:27 am jennymckmoss: @melissathomson Love that! #kidlitchat
2:27 am dawnmetcalf: @emilytastic Really? You have to pay for the stickers? That’s terrible! #kidlitchat
2:27 am Linamoon: @lyonmartin fairies and goblins and zombies… #kidlitchat
2:27 am EgmontGal: @bonnieadamson yes, state awards help library sales. they have saved many a writer and many a book. Keep up the good work! #kidlitchat
2:27 am emilytastic: @bonnieadamson In Texas, definitely. The Bluebonnet list, esp., is required reading for certain grades. #kidlitchat
2:27 am DDHearn: @melissathomson It might not be a bad idea to have a few kids on these award committees. #kidlitchat
2:27 am debbieohi: @LiaKeyes No problem. #kidlitchat
2:28 am RebeccAgent: @bonnieadamson TX is much bigger impact than other state awards for MG #kidlitchat
2:28 am WriterRoss: @susan_marie BORDERS has a “Make Book” program wherein employees MUST push titles on their MAKE BOOK list. #kidlitchat
2:28 am EgmontGal: @nkrell Not to mention the Hangover! There must be a funnier movie or better musical than that! #kidlitchat
2:28 am emilytastic: @dawnmetcalf Yes. I was told they are like gold. After a little bit the books start coming in pre-stickered, tho. #kidlitchat
2:28 am PattyJMurphy: RT @dawnmetcalf: @emilytastic Really? You have to pay for the stickers? Thats terrible! <<–Eek! How about libraries? #kidlitchat
2:28 am steveedw: @Linamoon my direction has been gnomes and gnome legends in my writing. #kidlitchat
2:28 am mrswritebrain: @EgmontGal that was the one I’d seen. Just wanted to know what I’d been missing. #kidlitchat
2:29 am EgmontGal: @dawnmetcalf Yup. if you don’t use actually sticker but print it on the book you pay a licensing fee (and labor for stickering) #kidlitchat
2:29 am joswartz: #kidlitchat @DDHearn @lyonmartin special abilities/superpowers (clairvoyance, telekinesis etc..), fairies, aliens =paranormal too.
2:29 am tehawesomersace: I’ll be devil’s advocate here, but I’m not sure how much awards matter vs. buzz/word of mouth for average reader. #kidlitchat
2:29 am emilytastic: @dawnmetcalf I think it’s to prevent crazies from running around stickering books willy-nilly. #kidlitchat
2:29 am tehawesomersace: I’ll be devil’s advocate here, but I’m not sure how much awards matter vs. buzz/word of mouth for average reader. #kidlitchat
2:29 am katefall: RT @EgmontGal: state awards help library sales. they have saved many a writer and many a book. Keep up the good work! #kidlitchat
2:29 am stephanieruble: Computer slow tonight. Can’t catch up on all the tweets, but I’m trying #kidlitchat
2:29 am PattyJMurphy: RT @EgmontGal: @nkrell Not to mention the Hangover! There must be a funnier movie/musical than that! <<The Proposal was better! #kidlitchat
2:29 am onbeyondwords: @rachelarrr Interesting that self published books are eligible. What’s the nomination and win rate? #kidlitchat
2:29 am lioncaller: I remember when I was a kid the Newbery logo meant the book would be good. Rabbit Hill, Strawberry Girl, Mixed-Up Files. #kidlitchat
2:29 am DDHearn: @Linamoon Would fairies be considered paranormal? When does it become fantasy? (not that it isn’t ALL fantasy, really). #kidlitchat
2:29 am gregpincus: @debbieohi @writerross Are you talking about this Borders employees blog? http://community.livejournal.com/iworkatborders #kidlitchat
2:29 am tehawesomersace: Sorry, not sure why that posted 2x. #kidlitchat
2:30 am bonnieadamson: @tehawesomersace But don’t you think the shiny sticker gets average reader to at least pick it up? #kidlitchat
2:30 am adamselzer: @tehawesomersace it matters in that the average reader sees what’s on the shelves and doesn’t see what isn’t. #kidlitchat
2:30 am Shelltex: Wow. Who pays for the stickers? The publisher or the book sellers? #kidlitchat
2:30 am EgmontGal: @WriterRoss where the hell were you during tonight’s deadly episode of Idol? Nearly as boring as “Story of Mankind” the 1st newb #kidlitchat
2:30 am emilytastic: @tehawesomersace Amen, sister. I think awards affect a certain market. But many readers shop based on covers & peer reviews. #kidlitchat
2:30 am ReadingCountess: @BonnieAdamson re state awards: I teach 5th in TX, and tho not req, it is suggested that they read at least 5 (then they =vote) #kidlitchat
2:30 am RebeccAgent: Notables and BBYA lists also have impact (not sure if we are counting them as ALA awards) #kidlitchat
2:30 am StephanieDBrown: I agree with @tehawesomersace word of mouth is some of the best way to get people talking about & reading a book. #kidlitchat
2:30 am debbieohi: @gregpincus Thanks for that url, Greg! #kidlitchat
2:30 am lisa_schroeder: I have heard authors say making the Texas state list doubled their sales! #kidlitchat
2:30 am emilytastic: @adamselzer Touche, Adam! #kidlitchat
2:30 am gregpincus: @tehawesomersace I think there’s a difference between shortterm buzz and longterm, too. Big awards help. #kidlitchat
2:30 am dlschubert: How do you get on the Borders “Make Book” list? #kidlitchat
2:30 am nkrell: @EgmontGal I know! I didn’t even know the Hangover was nominated. That is a sad documentary of where our society is. #kidlitchat
2:30 am stephanieruble: @tehawesomersace It does make a difference when the library or bookstore is buying/stocking the books for the average reader. #kidlitchat
2:30 am tehawesomersace: @bonnieadamson No. The shiny cover does that. #kidlitchat
2:30 am EgmontGal: @bonnieadamson yes, i for one think the sticker really really helps sell a book and draw reader or parent #kidlitchat
2:30 am steveedw: @DDHearn if the direction taken is into their connection with afterlife topics I would think so #kidlitchat
2:31 am DDHearn: @tehawesomersace I agree. Harry Potter and Twilight series didn’t win awards, and that didn’t stop their sales. #kidlitchat
2:31 am erinbowbooks: I think awards matter to libraries. Nothing like a sticker to get a hardback onto the shelf. #kidlitchat
2:31 am bonnieadamson: @DDHearn I thought paranormal meant ghosts & demons. #kidlitchat
2:31 am tehawesomersace: @adamselzer Meaning a book is more likely to be stocked? #kidlitchat
2:31 am emilytastic: @Shelltex Booksellers initially, if they want to sticker what’s in stock before the stickered order comes in. Afterward? Dunno #kidlitchat
2:31 am ReadingCountess: Since I teach 5th, I find that some bks. on the Lone Star list (rec. for 6-8) are more interesting, tho not all appropriate #kidlitchat
2:31 am onbeyondwords: @tehawesomersace I think the awards matter to the average reader if only because there are more of those books visible in stores #kidlitchat
2:31 am lyonmartin: What about witches?RT @DDHearn: Would fairies be considered paranormal? When does it become fantasy? . #kidlitchat
2:31 am rachelarrr: @onbeyondwords I learned it when I spoke to someone on Caldecott committee, I gather they are mainly ignored (+ mostly bad art). #kidlitchat
2:31 am mosylu: @PattyJMurphy The pre-award copies just go unstickered, at least in the ones I’ve worked in. They buy STACKS post-award tho! #kidlitchat
2:31 am EgmontGal: @nkrell No. The Hollywood foreign press is a very small group of foreign journalist. It’s the oscars that speak badly about us. #kidlitchat
2:31 am PattyJMurphy: @rebeccagent: Stupid question: What doe BB stand for in BBYA? #kidlitchat
2:31 am bonnieadamson: @tehawesomersace This is true, too. Let’s hear it for jacket designers! #kidlitchat
2:31 am WriterRoss: http://community.livejournal.com/iworkatborders/ Live Journal BORDERS booksellers’ blog #kidlitchat
2:32 am lioncaller: But now Newbery is all lessony and can even be nonfiction. Bleach. #kidlitchat
2:32 am emilytastic: @PattyJMurphy Best Books for Young Adults #kidlitchat
2:32 am marjorielight: @stephanieruble HA! It’s not your computer! These #kidlitchat peeps type FAST!
2:32 am adamselzer: @tehawesomersace Yes. If you don’t write paranormal, you almost need an award just to get stocked right now. #kidlitchat
2:32 am erinbowbooks: (Of course, it’s probably not shocking that the ALA awards matter to, ahem, librarians. Pardon me. Need more sleep.) #kidlitchat
2:32 am RebeccAgent: Best Books for Young Adults #kidlitchat
2:32 am YolaRamunno: I think stickers create a buzz that might not have been created without it. #kidlitchat
2:32 am kristiecookauth: #amwritingparty I think a lot of peeps are in #kidlitchat
2:32 am lisa_schroeder: Also, don’t awards generally mean the book will be in print a lot longer than it might have otherwise? #kidlitchat
2:32 am comagrrl: RT @lyonmartin: What about witches?RT @DDHearn: Would fairies be considered paranormal? When does it become fantasy? . #kidlitchat
2:32 am WriterRoss: http://community.livejournal.com/bn_booksellers/ LIVE JOURNAL B &N booksellers’ blog #kidlitchat
2:32 am tehawesomersace: @stephanieruble In a small way. If 20 kids come in asking for 1 book vs 1 kid asking for the award book, popular book is bought. #kidlitchat
2:32 am debbieohi: @WriterRoss Thanks, Pamela! #kidlitchat
2:33 am melissathomson: when I taught 5th grade language arts, curriculum was novel-based; several Newberys on syllabus #kidlitchat
2:33 am emilytastic: @lioncaller Hey, Printz can be nonfiction, too! And Caldecott! #kidlitchat
2:33 am cjomololu: @WriterRoss does Make Book relate to their Original Voices awards? #kidlitchat
2:33 am PattyJMurphy: RT @RebeccAgent: Best Books for Young Adults <<–Figured. Wasn’t sure. Thanks. #kidlitchat
2:33 am tehawesomersace: @adamselzer Yeah, but even the award books are endangered species a la Looking for Alaska (2005 Printz?) #kidlitchat
2:33 am YolaRamunno: It seems to me the younger kids are drawn to the stickers and the older kids rely on word of mouth. #kidlitchat
2:33 am CynthiaCWillis: Great chat tonight, but must move on. Happy continued chatting! : ) #kidlitchat
2:34 am camoulton: @lyonmartin Witches are definitely considered paranormal. #kidlitchat
2:34 am rachelarrr: @lioncaller What’s wrong with nonfiction? #kidlitchat
2:34 am emilytastic: I wonder what does more to boost sales: being banned or getting an award? #kidlitchat
2:34 am dawnmetcalf: @emilytastic @EgmontGal Well, let’s certainly not get willies or nillies involved! #kidlitchat
2:34 am EgmontGal: I can’t post for awhile. I am obsessed with this Borders employee blog that @writerRoss posted. Wow wow wow #kidlitchat
2:34 am DDHearn: @comagrrl Poor witches. They don’t get no respect. #kidlitchat
2:34 am bonnieadamson: @lioncaller When You Reach Me isn’t lessony. It’s a terrific read. #kidlitchat
2:34 am steveedw: @comagrrl Fairy-folk control passage to Avalon in legend… (similar to heaven), does that qualify? #kidlitchat
2:34 am ReadingCountess: @SarahDarerLitt re: Marcelo in the Real World-JUST started it last night. Wondering–will it “speak” to kids? Seems more 4 adult #kidlitchat
2:34 am adamselzer: @tehawesomersace Yep. Life sucks. Sorry, just kinda bitter about the availability of some of my past books. #kidlitchat
2:34 am amy7a: @YolaRamunno Do you think it’s the parents who are drawn to the stickers–and are the buyers for younger kids? #kidlitchat
2:34 am bonnieadamson: RT @rachelarrr: @lioncaller Whats wrong with nonfiction? #kidlitchat
2:34 am tehawesomersace: @onbeyondwords I think it depends on your market. In mine? Not so much. 1/2 of YA section is Twilight merch or spinoffs. #kidlitchat
2:34 am RebeccAgent: here’s the biggie. ALA Awards mean those books get in kids hands and stay w/them possibly forever Ramona Quimby, Westing Game, #kidlitchat
2:34 am stephanieruble: @tehawesomersace That’s true as well, but most libraries /bookstores carry the award books too, right? #kidlitchat
2:34 am dawnmetcalf: HAHAHmm… RT @emilytastic I wonder what does more to boost sales: being banned or getting an award? #kidlitchat
2:34 am paulgreci: RT @emilytastic: I wonder what does more to boost sales: being banned or getting an award? #kidlitchat
2:35 am EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent Is the BBYA list up? #kidlitchat
2:35 am tehawesomersace: @emilytastic I vote for banned. #kidlitchat
2:35 am adamselzer: @emilytastic Being banned only helps store sales if you’re in sales to start with. #kidlitchat
2:35 am debbieohi: Me too! –>RT @EgmontGal: I cant post for awhile. I am obsessed with this Borders employee blog that @writerRoss posted. #kidlitchat
2:35 am dawnbonnevie: RT @YolaRamunno: It seems to me the younger kids are drawn to the stickers and the older kids rely on word of mouth. #kidlitchat
2:35 am WriterRoss: @debbieohi You’re welcome. I am not seein my own tweets so I can’t tell if I am posting to the group or talking to myself <g> #kidlitchat
2:35 am dawnmetcalf: Interesting. RT @YolaRamunno It seems to me the younger kids are drawn to the stickers and the older kids rely on word of mouth. #kidlitchat
2:35 am RebeccAgent: The Giver, Holes, Tuck Everlasting… #kidlitchat
2:35 am joswartz: #kidlitchat fairies paranormal instead of fantasy if in this world as opposed to fairyland. depends on how it’s written. I think.
2:35 am stephanieruble: @marjorielight Thanks! You’re right, they do type fast, but I can usually follow along better than tonight #kidlitchat
2:35 am adamselzer: er, in stores to start with. #kidlitchat
2:35 am himissjulie: Don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet, but in IL the monarch, caudill, bluestem and lincoln awards are all chosen by kids/teens #kidlitchat
2:35 am RebeccAgent: ALA award winners have had lifelong impact on me #kidlitchat
2:35 am EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent I don’t agree about Ramona, she was huge for years before finally a newb honor. Westing game won the triple crown #kidlitchat
2:35 am DDHearn: @steveedw I guess I would see all the Avalon and Arthur legends as more fantasy, even with witches and fairies. #kidlitchat
2:35 am dawnmetcalf: @RebeccAgent I think that sounds ideal. We need more books in kids hands that become treasured classics. #kidlitchat
2:36 am onbeyondwords: @rachelarrr That’s what I would have expected – both the ignoring part and the art part #kidlitchat
2:36 am tehawesomersace: @stephanieruble My market is almost 80-85% paranormals/gossip girl-esque books. But we’re kind of rural. #kidlitchat
2:36 am gregpincus: @debbieohi @egmontgal It’s not a cheery blog, though. #kidlitchat
2:36 am lioncaller: Yeah, bad idea, except for Cald. RT @emilytastic: Hey, Printz can be nonfiction, too! And Caldecott! #kidlitchat
2:36 am EgmontGal: @RebeccAgent Again, all three books would have been big without awards and Tuck Everlasting not a newbery or even honor i think #kidlitchat
2:36 am peg366: RT @YolaRamunno: It seems to me the younger kids are drawn to the stickers and the older kids rely on word of mouth. True here. #kidlitchat
2:36 am DDHearn: @adamselzer Most of my past books are swimming with the fishes. #kidlitchat
2:36 am PattyJMurphy: RT @dawnmetcalf: @RebeccAgent I think that sounds ideal. We need more books in kids hands that become treasured classics. #kidlitchat
2:36 am CateHart: RT @RebeccAgent: ALA award winners have had lifelong impact on me <– I agree #kidlitchat
2:36 am emilytastic: @lioncaller Why bad idea? #kidlitchat
2:36 am RebeccAgent: Would I have read those books in elem school and middle school if they didn’t have a seal on them? #kidlitchat
2:36 am bonnieadamson: Somebody RT the Borders blog–I’ve lost it in the stream . . . #kidlitchat
2:36 am RebeccAgent: Would board and faculty choose them? #kidlitchat
2:37 am hatbooks: Question: Do eds/pubs in U.S. pay attention to any particular international awards? #kidlitchat
2:37 am curiousmartha: My mom was very aware of Newbery medal when I was growing up in average small town w/only a Waldenbooks. #kidlitchat
2:37 am WriterRoss: @EgmontGal @debbieohi Oh lovely. YYou saw me. They are a funny lot. #kidlitchat
2:37 am RebeccAgent: really Tuck wasn’t an honor or medal? Well then the committee made a major mistake that yr #kidlitchat
2:37 am emilytastic: @RebeccAgent My question is would my teacher have made me read those books if they didn’t have a seal on them? #kidlitchat
2:37 am RebeccAgent: hi @curiousmartha #kidlitchat
2:37 am CateHart: I think I remember as an elem. student being drawn to the big shiny sticker more than once #kidlitchat
2:38 am lyonmartin: When does it cross over into fantasy? RT @camoulton: @lyonmartin Witches are definitely considered paranormal. #kidlitchat
2:38 am gregpincus: @bonnieadamson The blog in question: http://community.livejournal.com/iworkatborders #kidlitchat
2:38 am himissjulie: it’s good to have a mixture of awards chosen by “experts” and awards chosen by readers. interesting to see where they overlap. #kidlitchat
2:38 am cindysku: Tuck Everlasting is my fave children’s book as a child. #kidlitchat
2:38 am gregpincus: Anyone? RT @hatbooks: Question: Do eds/pubs in U.S. pay attention to any particular international awards? #kidlitchat
2:38 am joswartz: @steveedw Fantasy asks us to suspend disbelief. Paranormal shocks you into understanding strange realities. #kidlitchat
2:38 am KayCassidy: @EgmontGal The Westing Game is my all-time favorite YA mystery. Ever. Didn’t know about the triple crown! #kidlitchat
2:38 am amy7a: RT @CateHart: I think I remember as an elem. student being drawn to the big shiny sticker more than once–ME TOO! #kidlitchat
2:38 am EgmontGal: @StephanieDBrown Yes, awards have impact. But it was on list for 8 weeks and sold TONS of copies in Dec ’cause of NPR interview #kidlitchat
2:38 am SheviStories: My daughter has loved 100s of books, but only 1, Princess Academy, has a sticker on it. What does that say? #kidlitchat
2:38 am lioncaller: @BonnieAdamson Of course they aren’t ALL lessony. Still, there’s definitely been a change over time. Maybe it’s not so bad. #kidlitchat
2:39 am RebeccAgent: now don’t get me wrong, I don’t think seal should be only way to choose what books should be taught or read #kidlitchat
2:39 am dlschubert: Don’t all kids love stickers? According to dentists, they do. #kidlitchat
2:39 am peg366: RT @cindysku: Tuck Everlasting is my fave childrens book as a child. Mee, too. #kidlitchat
2:39 am tehawesomersace: Tuck Everlasting was an ALA Notable. #kidlitchat
2:39 am DDHearn: @emilytastic I think many of the books that won Newberry would be forgotten now if they hadn’t won. Many good books are. #kidlitchat
2:39 am melissathomson: My first graders are drawn to the library bar code sometimes. It’s a sticker. So award doesn’t matter to them, just the sticker. #kidlitchat
2:39 am StephanieDBrown: @EgmontGal Ohhhhh, okay! I read it around October & wasn’t sure. Thanks! #kidlitchat
2:39 am stephanieruble: @tehawesomersace I can see that. Are the other 15-20% award winners or literary? #kidlitchat
2:39 am tehawesomersace: @SheviStories We don’t need no stinkin stickers? #kidlitchat
2:39 am dawnmetcalf: @camoulton @lyonmartin …unless they’re fantasy. #kidlitchat
2:40 am DDHearn: @lyonmartin But in Harry Potter the girls were training to be witches, and to me that was fantasy. #kidlitchat
2:40 am lyonmartin: @StephanieDBrown I kno wmy local library puts aside money to purchase award winners every year. Can’t be the only one. #kidlitchat
2:40 am lioncaller: Nothing’s wrong with nonfiction. Just isn’t literature and should have its own award. NF & fic shouldn’t be competing w/ea other #kidlitchat
2:40 am tehawesomersace: @melissathomson LOL! Too funny! #kidlitchat
2:40 am dawnmetcalf: @dlschubert ROFL!! #kidlitchat
2:40 am curiousmartha: @RebeccAgent Hi! (I’m mostly lurking.) #kidlitchat
2:40 am DDHearn: RT @joswartz: @steveedw Fantasy asks us to suspend disbelief. Paranormal shocks you into understanding strange realities. #kidlitchat
2:40 am dawnbonnevie: #kidlitchat Awards certainly provide another reason to discuss books!!! An award gets the title/author MENTIONED more at very least
2:40 am bonnieadamson: I just remembered I wrote an article 14 yrs ago for Youth Services in Libraries: “What the Newbery Means to Me,” lol. #kidlitchat
2:40 am CateHart: but by 5th and 6th grade it was all word of mouth – and a race to finish every single Judy Blume book out there #kidlitchat
2:40 am tehawesomersace: @stephanieruble I would say they are literary/issue books, like Ellen Hopkins. Pretty even split. #kidlitchat
2:41 am dawnmetcalf: @melissathomson So, obviously, we should tell marketing to make a cover entirely of stickers. #kidlitchat
2:41 am PattyJMurphy: RT @lioncaller: I can assure you that non-fiction is literature… #kidlitchat
2:41 am amy7a: So, do the award stickers on the winning books prevent sales of non-award winning books? #kidlitchat
2:41 am steveedw: @DDHearn good definition, I’ll buy it. #kidlitchat
2:41 am RebeccAgent: @egmontgal well Where the Mountain wasn’t bestseller after Today Show book club. Thinking Newbery honor could do it #kidlitchat
2:41 am gregpincus: Was anyone else at the SCBWI summer conference when Donna Jo Napoli won the Golden Kite? #kidlitchat
2:41 am onbeyondwords: Let me clarify – I was attracted to the sticker as a kid – but I knew it meant award winning book #kidlitchat
2:41 am marjorielight: RT @cindysku Tuck Everlasting is my fave children’s book as a child. #kidlitchat ….Oh man, I feel old.
2:41 am KarenMusings: @CateHart Ha. A Judy Blume books is like a rite of passage for girls. You graduate with FOREVER. #kidlitchat
2:41 am WriterRoss: I am thrilled NF is getting its just rewards. But a question: Why not a specific ALA medal for picture book text? #kidlitchat
2:41 am Shelltex: RT @lioncaller: NF & fic shouldnt be competing w/ea other —> I AGREE #kidlitchat
2:41 am jennymckmoss: @dawnmetcalf Like this idea. #kidlitchat
2:42 am lioncaller: @DDHearn HP was fantasy from the get-go, no? #kidlitchat
2:42 am gregpincus: Basically, how do you compare these books? At some point, if you have two or five great books, you could pick any one to win. #kidlitchat
2:42 am KarenMusings: @gregpincus Yes! I loved her speech. Saying that awards are well — bullcrap because they’re subjective. #kidlitchat
2:42 am RebeccAgent: I have an question– what do you all think of photography getting medal for Coretta Scott illus award? #kidlitchat
2:42 am katefall: Local 5th grade curriculum is Newbery based. They just finished Letters to Rifka. Some kids learn to love to read in school. #kidlitchat
2:42 am CateHart: @RebeccAgent I agree about hte sticker and what is taught – but I think it helps young readers in independent choices #kidlitchat
2:42 am jennymckmoss: RT @WriterRoss: thrilled NF is getting its just rewards. But a question: Why not a specific ALA medal for picture book text? #kidlitchat
2:42 am bonnieadamson: @WriterRoss Like the Golden Kite? I think that’s a great idea. PB writing is such an art. #kidlitchat
2:42 am PattyJMurphy: RT @Shelltex: RT @lioncaller: NF & fic shouldnt be competing w/ea other —> I AGREE <<–Dont’ agree. It’s all about story… #kidlitchat
2:43 am dawnmetcalf: @EgmontGal Yow! I’d take a NPR review any day! I have numerous books in my TBR pile because of that. #kidlitchat
2:43 am erinbowbooks: @amy7a my first guess is that it’s not that zero sum. #kidlitchat
2:43 am comagrrl: RT @KarenMusings: @CateHart Ha. A Judy Blume books is like a rite of passage for girls. You graduate with FOREVER. #kidlitchat
2:43 am lyonmartin: Sorry all, battery has gone kaput, must bow out of #kidlitchat early.
2:43 am tehawesomersace: @KarenMusings I thought you graduated with Wifey? (Not a kid’s book!) #kidlitchat
2:43 am KarenMusings: @RebeccAgent I wondered about that. Since the award was for an illustrations and there are only photos. #kidlitchat
2:43 am susiebj: RT @YolaRamunno Younger kids are drawn to the stickers and the older kids rely on word of mouth. #kidlitchat As a mom of a teen, I agree
2:43 am dawnbonnevie: #kidlitchat Kids only know sticker has meaning if they were taught it.
2:43 am DDHearn: @lioncaller I would call HP fantasy. I liked @joswartz definition about the differences between the two. #kidlitchat
2:43 am susan_marie: @WriterRoss What about an ALA medal that acknowledged that most picture books have both pictures and text? #kidlitchat
2:43 am peg366: RT @bonnieadamson: @WriterRoss Like the Golden Kite? I think thats a great idea. PB writing is such an art. Agree. #kidlitchat
2:43 am Shelltex: RT @KarenMusings: @CateHart Ha. A Judy Blume book is a rite of passage for girls. You graduate with FOREVER. * Not Wifey? Hmm * #kidlitchat
2:43 am RebeccAgent: @catehart fine line. awards, notables, and bbya lists help schools compile summer reading & independent reading lists for kids #kidlitchat
2:43 am stephanieruble: @gregpincus What book did Donna Jo Napoli win for? I think I was there. Def. heard her speak in LA a couple of yrs ago. #kidlitchat
2:43 am gregpincus: @WriterRoss I think the Golden Kite from SCBWI is the only picture book text specific award. But that’s not about fiction or NF #kidlitchat
2:43 am KarenMusings: @tehawesomersace Totally forgot about Wifey. AP class maybe? LOL. #kidlitchat
2:43 am PattyJMurphy: RT @jennymckmoss: RT @WriterRoss: Why not a specific ALA medal for picture book text? <<Sooooo agree. #kidlitchat
