Kidlitchat Transcript – January 12 (part 2)
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laurielyoung:
@MyraMcEntire: @EgmontUSA I ljust got it in the mail today, can’t wait to read it (The Dark Divine) #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:31
Werecat1: @LJBoldyrev @MyraMcEntire A bit of a weird narcissistic moment there. My WIP is TOD, so
wanted to know how you’d read it. LOL #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:31
Gwenda: @malindalo Agree–and you have to find that balance in the authorial/narrator’s voice too.
HARD. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:31
JennBailey: @erinbowbooks Got to talk to Pratchett 5 yrs ago. He’s wonderful. Told me if he could be 1
of his own characters he’d be Vimes. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:31
KellyDHouse: I have a hard time not sounding “whiny” when writing in 1st, but it’s great for figuring out
character. Often start there. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:32
emilytastic: YES! RT @malindalo: I find 3rd person ltd fairly self-explanatory, but 3rd person omniscient
way harder. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:32
LisaDez: @TracyClark_TLC Clever. I used dual 1st POV and it sold, so that works too. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:32
gregpincus: @johannaharness I was thinking the same thing. hearing “omnicsient ping pong” makes
tonights tech troubles well worth it. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:32
carolgrannick: Love Richard Peck’s first person from a distance of years in LONG WAY FROM CHICAGO
and YEAR DOWN YONDER, especially. Heart-tugs. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:32
kellybarnhill: @johannaharness I’m just waiting for someone to do their master’s thesis on Omniscient
Ping Pong. Academicese titles abound #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:32
jasouders: @elanaroth I see you. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:32
lkstrohecker: @rebstead has an innovative approach to using 2nd person pov in WHEN YOU REACH ME
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:32
RebeccAgent: 3rd person challenge- how do you create VOICE when not your protagonist’s voice
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:32
dlschubert: I think whatever you’re used to writing in is what’s easier. I started writing in 1st person &
found 3rd POV to be challenging. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:32
MissusM: Agree, 1st person started to turn into me. RT @RebeccAgent: 1st person is greater
challenge. Must keep voice authentic. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:32
literaticat: OK everybody, I am finally here – YOUR PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED. 
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:33
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1/12/201021:33
LJBoldyrev: @RebeccAgent Authorial voice, no? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:33
denisejaden: Even when I want to write a story in 3rd, I find I have to write it in 1st in the beginning to
explore the character #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:33
jennymckmoss:
RT @crissachappell: 3rd feels like watching movie (still an emotional experience) In 1st, I feel like Ive become the character. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:33
cherylherbsman: @RebeccAgent i think that == author’s style or tone #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:33
KrissiDallas: I like the way voice can change in 1st-fun to see the originality of each character-Perfect
Chemistry did this well, I thought. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:33
john_zeleznik: I’ve never been able to get into 1st person, though I LOVE 3rd limited…blame GRRM. Plus I
can’t write 1st person #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:33
LisaDez: @RebeccAgent I have a ton of respect for those who can. I can’t, so i write in 1st. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:33
dawnmetcalf: @RebeccAgent Is the narrator a character (eg: Lemony Snicket’s books)? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:33
dlschubert: Exactly! More challenging. RT @RebeccAgent 3rd person challenge- how do you create
VOICE when not your protagonist’s voice #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:34
jeanie_w: RT @RebeccAgent: 3rd person challenge- how do you create VOICE when not your
protagonist’s voice #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:34
malindalo: @RebeccAgent 3rd person “voice” is about the author’s style. I think of it as a costume you
put on. 
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:34
kellybarnhill: @KatGirl_Studio It’s when the pov is third person, but the perception’s all bound in the
headspace of a single character. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:34
gregpincus:
@RebeccAgent You’re talking the difference between authorial voice and narrative voice,yes? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:34
LauraSibson: @RebeccAgent I think you just need to really know your character inside and out in order to
create voice other than protag #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:34
emilytastic: @RebeccAgent For me it’s about tone and mood. You have to make the reader feel like
he/she is being *told* a story. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:34
TracyClark_TLC: I’ve heard teens say that they like 1st because they feel like they ARE the character. Adults seem to dislike it though. Hmmm. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:34
carolgrannick: @RebeccAgent Wrote one draft in antagonist’s voice & from her POV. . .then went back;
knew her better! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:34
RickiSchultz: As does Brian Kiteley (POV exercises) in THE 3AM EPIPHANY… #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:34
KatGirl_Studio: @kellybarnhill oh ok thanks #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:34
SheviStories: @RebeccAgent By using a focal character. By using the MC to create a mood. Two words:
Lemony Snicket. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:34
nkrell: @RebeccAgent I think Shannon Hale has a distinct voice. The Goose Girl is 3rd person if I
remember correctly. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:35
gregpincus: @Lisawrites4kids Well, if the change of POV brought the emotion up and helped the story,
that’s reason enough! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:35
malindalo: @dawnmetcalf I love it when the narrator has personality! So fun. Can be very Britishy/old‑
fashioned-sounding #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:35
johannaharness: @gregpincus Exactly! Plus the Pratchett insight. This is great. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:35
dawnmetcalf: @gregpincus I have heard rumor that 1st person is usual for YA. I got a lot of grumbling
when I said I prefer 3rd person. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:35
MyraMcEntire: @RebeccAgent What is the difference between tone and voice in 3rd? Or do you work on
making each characters voice distinct? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:35
dlschubert: 3rd person POV is often the “writer’s” voice. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:35
MissusM: @RebeccAgent I read it aloud in different voices to make sure they are distinguishable
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:35
kellybarnhill: @RebeccAgent Ah, yer killin’ me here. I have to teach a workshop on that very subject, and
I’m not all that clear on it. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:35
KellyDHouse: @RebeccAgent VOICE has got to be in cadence, manner and personality of character and
their speech. Unique to each character. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:35
erinbowbooks: @JennBailey — Did he really? I would have guessed that, but I am charmed to hear it. Sam
is a wonderful creation. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:35
RKCharron:
RebeccAgent Through the protagonist’s dialogue you create VOICE in 3rd person #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:35
RebeccAgent: to be clear. wasn’t asking that? for you to answer for me. I think it’s the question each 3rd
pov author needs to ask self #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:35
dawnmetcalf: RT crissachappell: 3rd feels like watching movie (still an emotional experience) In 1st, I
feel like Ive become the character. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:36
KrissiDallas: emilytastic Interesting! Thanks for the rec (A Map of Home). #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:36
AuthorTaraKelly: Hey all! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:36
lkstrohecker: 1st doesn’t have to be limited to 1 char (take SHIVER or Faulkner, for a non-kidlit ex.), but
can be tricky to pull off well #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:36
paulgreci: RebeccAgent possibly use tone to create voice, and perspective, how characters
experience what is happening, their slant?? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:36
erinbowbooks: Heee! I want credit for “omniscient ping pong”!!! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:36
bonnieadamson: RT KellyDHouse: RebeccAgent VOICE has got to be in cadence, manner and personality of character and their speech. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:36
jimhill: Missed most of the chat because of BOD meeting for the Cape Cod Writer’s Center.
Ramping up for annual conference in Aug. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:36
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emilytastic:
@KrissiDallas It is so good! I think every woman should read it, especially! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:36
AuthorTaraKelly: Dialogue is my favorite thing to write.. I could probably construct an entire book out of dialogue. But.. I won’t. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:36
T_Tibke: I’ve asked this, but your POV dscssn spurs me to do it again: Can anyone list some
successful 3rd Prsn Omniscient books? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:36
RickiSchultz: #kidlitchat> Not working for me either. Oh well. Must stop procrastinating anyway!
1/12/201021:37
dawnmetcalf: Turns of phrases, pacing, grammatical style can all contribute to the “sound” of narrative
voice, IMO. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:37
KrissiDallas: Sadness… some of my tweets just aren’t showing up on here. I think I’m going to bow out
early – yall have fun!! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:37
LJBoldyrev: @lkstrohecker I thought SHIVER and TWILIGHT both pulled it off pretty well. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:37
RebeccAgent: I feel that it’s important in 3rd pov that the protag’s dialogue is distinct in sound from
narration #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:37
dawnmetcalf: @erinbowbooks You *SO* deserve credit for “omniscient ping pong”! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:37
bonnieadamson: @jimhill We’re talking POV tonight. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:37
SheviStories:
@RKCharron It’s not just dialogue. A dead tree in 3rd will look differently depending on the focal character. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:37
KellyDHouse: @KrissiDallas try loggin off and then back on. Worked for me. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:37
gregpincus: Another question – is 1st person more common in YA and 3rd more in MG? Doesit divide like
that? And, if so, why? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:37
MissusM: @lkstrohecker I have to say Shiver confused me at the beginning #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:37
emilytastic: Good point! RT @RebeccAgent: I feel that its important in 3rd pov that the protags dialogue
is distinct in sound from narration #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:38
kellybarnhill: Rats! Kids out of bed. hopefully I’ll be back #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:38
Gwenda: @T_Tibke My thesis link is floating around here and has lots in the biblio. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:38
malindalo: @T_Tibke This isn’t YA, but Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel is 3rd person present omniscient, I
think. It won the Man Booker prize. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:38
MyraMcEntire: I have apparently now broken both Tweetchat and Echofon. It is a *sign*. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:38
JennBailey: @gregpincus I’ll throw in James Fenimore Cooper. No charge. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:38
emilytastic: @gregpincus I haven’t noticed a trend either way. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:38
cherylherbsman: i think there’s more 1st in YA than MG but 3rd is equal, if that math makes sense:) #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:38
MissusM: Thanks! RT: @RebeccAgent: I feel that it’s important in 3rd pov that the protag’s dialogue is
distinct in sound from narration #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:38
LJBoldyrev: Afraid it’s time for me to go. Thanks for the discussion! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:38
Gwenda: @gregpincus Phillip Pullman says it’s b/c omniscient got pushed into the genres for much of
last century. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:38
denisejaden: @gregpincus I think mg 1st person is on the rise. It’s what I’ve been noticing lately.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:39
KellyDHouse: @gregpincus think 1st more common in contemporary YA. 3rd more in fantasy and
historical. Not necessarily a YA/MG thing #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:39
SheviStories: @RebeccAgent Yes! The narrator in 3rd can’t be the MC. In 3rd, the narrator has to add
something more. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:39
RebeccAgent: to repost I wasn’t asking voice ? for you to answer for me. I think that’s the? all 3rd person
authors should ask themselves #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:39
dawnmetcalf: @gregpincus Good question. Maybe willingness to identify/try on another POV? YAs more
experimental/intimate with 1st than 3rd? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:39
erinbowbooks: What I like about third person is that the story itself can have a presence on the page, a
tone, a voice. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:39
dlschubert: Last night my agent & I were discussing narrator POV vs character’s POV. She called me
out on it – great learning experience! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:39
lkstrohecker: @RebeccAgent Another challenge to 3rd: creating a distinctive narrative voice that doesn’t
belong to a specific character #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:39
nkrell: @RebeccAgent Are agents getting tired of ’snarky’ 1st person POV’s? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:39
NathalieMvondo: @gregpincus I’ve read more MGs in first person… #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:39
RKCharron: @SheviStories Good point. Also actions of focal character reveal character’s voice as well?
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:39
johannaharness: @erinbowbooks You got it! Omniscient ping bong is yours. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:39
gregpincus: @Gwenda I won’t argue with Philip Pullman! But I have no stats, so I’m curious…. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:40
LauraSibson: GREAT topic but I’ve got to fly. Goodnight all #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:40
Gwenda: @gregpincus Children’s lit is still about story, so you still see a lot of omni 3rd person there.
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:40
crissachappell: @AuthorTaraKelly love dialogue, too. Ever write screenplays? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:40
carolgrannick: Agree. RT @NathalieMvondo: @gregpincus Ive read more MGs in first person… #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:40
MyraMcEntire: I love the third person instruction. Keep it coming! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:40
elan aroth: @nkrell I am totally tired of snarky POV. Esp for girls. I want something better than that.
Something deeper. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:40
emilytastic: @dlschubert Yeah. I like to feel like I’m having a convo with the narrator, whether it’s a
character or not. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:40
Gwenda: @gregpincus (I’m just being a bore, I feel, since I did my thesis on this!) #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:40
jennymckmoss: @lkstrohecker It can be a challenge. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:40
dawnmetcalf: @nkrell @RebeccAgent Boy, I hope not! *I* have snarky POV! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:40
happybluejess: Question: When writing historical YA 1st person POV, should dialogue reflect time period,
but not in a distracting way? Ideas? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:40
nkrell: RT @elanaroth: @nkrell I am totally tired of snarky POV. Esp for girls. I want something
better than that. Something deeper. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:41
Gwenda: Great #kidlitchat topic tonight (my fave!), but must dash now.
1/12/201021:41
RebeccAgent: @nkrell I like snark in gossip blogs + about pop culture don’t know that I need it in fic
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:41
crissachappell: Voice isn’t just about speech. It’s a point of view. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:41
erinbowbooks: @kellybarnhill I’ve always wanted to be a footnote!!! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:41
SheviStories: @happybluejess I think so. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:41
NathalieMvondo: @gregpincus My answer stems from book selling experience and review, but there are more “serious” data. Interested in answer too #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:41
elan aroth: @happybluejess It can’t be too stiff. It has to have authenticity, but readable and accessible
for current kids. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:41
jimhill: @nkrell if agents are getting tired of it, it’d only be because no one was buying. Right?
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:41
dawnmetcalf: @Gwenda You did your thesis on this?! *kowtows in your general direction* #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:41
amyknichols: @happybluejess I would say yes, especially when it comes to word choice/diction.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:41
jemifraser: My MG students are not fans of reading 1st pov – when I’ve had YA students, they like 1st
pov a lot – is it developmental? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:42
adamselzer:
@happybluejess depending on time period, it might not be intelligible anymore at all. Reflect, but no point in mimicking. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:42
gregpincus: @Gwenda Not a bore at all. I think we’re all benefiting from your years of work! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:42
literaticat: I know that I am missing most tweets. Ahhhh well. Guess it’s time to put on pyjamas & dust
out the speakeasy. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:42
hatbooks: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:42
nkrell: RT @RebeccAgent: @nkrell I like snark in gossip blogs + about pop culture don’t know that I
need it in fic #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:42
turrean: RT @JennBailey Got to talk to Pratchett 5 yrs ago. He’s wonderful. Told me if he could be 1
of his own characters he’d be Vimes. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:42
Gwenda: @gregpincus Er, it was only months. But it FELT like years! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:43
bonnieadamson: Should be timeless–not trendy.RT @happybluejess When writing historical YA 1st person POV, should dialogue reflect time? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:43
ElissaJanine: had ms. in 3rd that got no love. changed to 1st and it drew people in.was a good experience
for me to find voice. but I resisted.#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:43
SheviStories: @jemifraser Could it be the particular books? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:43
kellybarnhill:
@happybluejess Read Octavian Nothing. Anderson did a masterful job of evoking the time, while keeping it accessible. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:43
srjohannes: @jemifraser Savvy was middle grade and 1st person. Do you know if any of them like that
book? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:44
MissusM: @dawnmetcalf @nkrell @RebeccAgent Boy – Teenage girls are snarky! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:44
erinbowbooks: @kellybarnhill diCamillo and I are agent mates — I picked the agency b/c if they “got” her
high-style voice, they’d get mine. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:44
JennBailey: @bonnieadamson @happybluejess Dialogue is so hard to do accurately, and kids don’t
seem to like. example: Twain & HuckFinn #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:44
NathalieMvondo: Is there a genre to which 1st pov is more appropriate? Doesn’t work as well for adventure? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:44
gregpincus: @NathalieMvondo I imagine someone does have the data, but I’ve not run into it. I think
we’re all using anecdotal #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:44
jimhill: @BonnieAdamson Thanks! Cathcing up in tweetchat #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:44
emilytastic: @nkrell @RebeccAgent There’s totally a fine line between fun snarky and annoying snarky.
I love a fun snark in my fiction. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:44
DDHearn: @happybluejess I thought the Octavian Nothing books were excellent with time period
dialog, but wonder if kids liked the books. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:45
dawnmetcalf: A good question to ask yourself is do you want the reader to experience the plot through
their own eyes or the character’s? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:45
LisaDez: @JennBailey I was surprised when i read a teen blog that said they didn’t like too much
dialogue. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:45
juliadevillers: @crissachappell Was going to say same to @TaraKelly Dialogue is my strongest;
screenplays have been suggested to me. Maybe soon. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:45
amyknichols: My tweets aren’t showing up. 
Getting discouraged. Kids are screaming like banshees.
Best call it a night. Night! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:45
YolaRamunno: Will an agent reject a ms because the pov is wrong? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:45
DDHearn: Sorry I’m coming in so late. what’s topic? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:45
AprilR: #kidlitchat read my mind. I was just researching this yesterday.
1/12/20 10 2 1:46
emilytastic: @dawnmetcalf How do you help a reader experience a story thru their own eyes? Wouldn’t
it still be thru the narrator’s? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:46
laurielyoung: @dawnmetcalf I think it really depends on the character and the story. But yes, good
question to ask. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:46
kellybarnhill:
@AprilR Yes. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:46
bonnieadamson: RT @dawnmetcalf: Ask yourself do you want the reader to experience the plot through their own eyes or the character’s? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:46
RKCharron: @emilytastic Nicole Peeler does fun snark well in Tempest Rising #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:47
dlschubert: Brilliant: RT @dawnmetcalf A good ? to ask urself: Do u want reader 2 experience plot
through their own eyes or the character’s? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:47
heatherwpetty: I think THE BLUE GIRL by Charles de Lint is another great example of POV shifts, etc.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:47
erinbowbooks: @happybluejess I love how R Sutcliff pitches her dialog: lyrical & antique, while still
sounding like stuff someone might SAY. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:47
LisaDez: @YolaRamunno If POV is wrong (ie: doesn’t work) it will be rejected. That’s something you
want to figure out before submitting. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:47
emilytastic: @heatherwpetty Oh I have been meaning to read that! Almost bought it the other
day.. .damn! *adds to list* #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:48
SheviStories: @erinbowbooks Yes! We must all dare to fail! As they say “Shoot for the moon. Miss and
you land among the stars.” #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:48
kellybarnhill: @DDHearn Think so. Anderson came to speak here, and the auditorium was packed with
kids. So cool and inspiring. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:48
JessicaLeader: V int about what u learn by switching to 3rd. I agree that 1st is easier to coast w but I also
think voice is easier to show #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:48
heatherwpetty: @emilytastic It’s a brilliant book. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:48
DDHearn: @amyknichols Try reloading. It made my tweets appear. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:48
JennBailey: Feel like Rick Riordan got around some POV issues with the dream sequences he uses in
Percy Jackson books. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:49
bonnieadamson: Am I here now? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:49
KellyDHouse: Am I back on? Anyone? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:49
EisleyJacobs: TweetGrid seems to be keeping time well with the chat. I think Twitter is hiccuping tonight.
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:49
JennBailey: @KellyDHouse I see you. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:50
happybluejess: @bonnieadamson I see you. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:50
heatherwpetty: @KellyDHouse @bonnieadamson I see you both! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:50
DDHearn:
@KellyDHouse I see you too, Kelly. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:50
JennBailey: You too, @bonnieadamson #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:50
happybluejess: @KellyDHouse I see you too. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:50
EgmonLUSA: I see @bonnieadamson and @KellyDHouse #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:50
bonnieadamson: @KellyDHouse Hi, Kelly–we’re both back, it seems. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:50
sLephanieruble: Hi, just got back from SCBWI meeting and thought I’d join in. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:50
KellyDHouse: I see you. And I see me! RT @bonnieadamson: Am I here now? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:50
KaLharinaFive: @happybluejess writing this way hard to do some of the language does not translate well my
#ff http://bit.ly/8aseKI “Eleanor” #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:50
DDHearn: We sound like a bunch of Na’vi from Avatar. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:50
paulgreci: @YolaRamunno I know one person who signed w/an agent, then rewrote her book switching
from 3rd to 1st. Best to get it right b4 #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:51
emilyLasLic: I’m reading The Lovely Bones right now. It’s neat, since it’s 1st P omnicient. I think if the bk
came out now it would be YA. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:51
She viSLories:
SheviStories:
For those just joining, topic is POV choice. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:51
T_Tibke: @Gwenda Thanks, Gwenda #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:51
heatherwpetty: There are people who hate 1st person or think it’s too rampant in YA fic. But I love it. Think it
fits the age for sure. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:51
EgmontUSA: I’m tracking this. Twitter is 15 minutes behind. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:51
dawnmetcalf: @DDHearn LOL! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:51
laurielyoung: RT @SheviStories: @erinbowbooks Yes! We must all dare to fail! “Shoot for the moon. Miss
and you land among the stars.” #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:51
AprilR: What are your thoughts on 3rd pov from three alternating characters telling separate stories
that merge to one? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:51
JennBailey: @DDHearn LOL!! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:51
bonnieadamson: @Lisawrites4kids I see you in reg. stream–not chat. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:51
KellyDHouse: @emilytastic Absolutely it would be YA if it came out now. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:51
DDHearn: Thanks for stating topic, Shevi. I have noticed so many YA books are in 1st person. Right
now am reading Hunger Games. #kidlitchat
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MLStoughton: I wrote entire ms 1st w/2 pov’s, decided to chg. Went back, rewrote in 3rd. Lot of work, but
helped me to know characters. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:53
heatherwpetty: @LisaDez I agree completely. Some books are like reading a diary… really high impact
emotionally. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:53
DDHearn: @AprilR I think as long as you can keep it clear who is the focus of each section, it’s fine.
LOTR had several POVs. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:53
bonnieadamson: But I’ve been enjoying the conversation. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:53
YolaRamunno: @emilytastic I agree. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:53
stephanieruble: RT @bonnieadamson You guys can’t imagine what words of wisdom you’ve missed from me
tonight. (Ha!) #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:53
paulgreci: RT @emilytastic: @heatherwpetty I think when a book is well-written, you almost don’t
notice the POV while you’re reading. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:53
erinbowbooks: I had to open up my 3rd person a little in my last book so that the narration noticed things
the MC didn’t. Helped a lot. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:53
emilytastic: @stephanieruble It’s still not the most common way to write a PB, but I have seen them.
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:53
hatbooks: I read uk, us, austral. books for pub in Japan; many lately with pov shifts but I find they rarely
work, shifts feel gratuitous #kidlitchat
heatherwpetty: SO agree. RT @emilytastic: @heatherwpetty I think when a book is well-written, u almost
dont notice the POV while ur reading. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:53
JennBailey: @bonnieadamson I don’t doubt, I know! You are always brilliant and erudite. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:53
gregpincus: I agree! RT @emilytastic I think when a book is well-written, you almost don’t notice the POV
while you’re reading. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:53
KellyDHouse: ditto! RT @bonnieadamson: You guys cant imagine what words of wisdom youve missed
from me tonight. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:53
bonnieadamson: Agree–more common now.RT @stephanieruble: How about 1st person PBs? I think it used to be rare, but more common now. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:54
DDHearn: @stephanieruble I think that might be a bit harder to illustrate, since it’s being seen through
MC’s eyes. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:54
jennymckmoss: Decision to write 1st or 3rd may be as much abt best way to tell that story as it is abt my
*relationship* to that part story #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:54
Tiare75: I think the challenge with writing MG 1st person is the limited vocab and understanding of
the world. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:54
KellyDHouse: @bonnieadamson Will the transcript include the regular feed? Or just Tweetchat? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:54
brianklems:
RT @RebeccAgent: I feel that it’s important in 3rd pov that the protag’s dialogue is distinct in sound from narration #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:54
LisaDez: @nkrell Honestly depends on the story and the kid, no matter what age group. I remember
being into both, but could relate to 1st #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:55
stephanieruble: RT @emilytastic: @heatherwpetty I think when a book is well-written, you almost dont notice
the POV while youre reading. (yes) #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:55
TracyClark_TLC: @NathalieMvondo Hey, didn’t we meet in Virginia City? Good to see you again! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:55
dlschubert: @bonnieadamson Can you post your own personal transcript? I wouldn’t want to miss a
thing. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:55
heatherwpetty: I enjoy the challenge of showing the reader how other characters feel, even when the 1st
person MC doesn’t see it. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:55
jemifraser: @KarenMusings Thanks for the RT – I’ve been frozen out for a bit #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:55
bonnieadamson: @DDHearn My “I Wish” series for Raven Tree in 1st person–didn’t think it posed a problem. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:55
SheviStories: @bonnieadamson The Cat in the Hat is in 1st. Other Doctor Suess is in 2nd. #kidlitchat
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:55
johannaharness: Reading _Alone with all that could happen_ by David Jauss. Unconventional and inspiring discussion of POV. #kidlitchat
carolgrannick: @bonnieadamson Good examples of first person PBs? Can’t think… Feels “odd” somehow…
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:55
KellyDHouse: wonder if 1st person PB’s are more often by author/illustrators? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:56
gregpincus: @KellyDHouse The transcript is based on the #kidlitchat tag (as is tweetchat – it’s not
actually a room), so it will include everything
1/12/20 10 2 1:56
dlschubert: Before I started writing seriously, I don’t think I was even aware of POV. I just knew what I
liked and what I didn’t. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:56
erinbowbooks: Problem with 1st: you’re limited to the kind of protags who would tell their own story.
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:56
bonnieadamson: @KellyDHouse Just TweetChat, unfortunately. No way to generate trans. except by hashtag. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:56
SheviStories: @Tiare75 But that could be good, like Junie B. Jones. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:56
DDHearn: @heatherwpetty Even with third person, isn’t it tricky to jump into different character’s
heads? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:56
stephanieruble: @DDHearn I think 1st or 3rd works for illustrating a PB, if the text is well written and has
visual possibilities. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:57
nkrell:
Night guys. Recovering from pneumonia. Need to see if I’m up for more writing tomorrow. Great chat. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:57
Tiare75: carolgrannick How about How I Became a Pirate as an example of a good PB in 1st
person? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:57
DaynaHester: RT RebeccAgent: I feel that it’s important in 3rd pov that the protag’s dialogue is distinct in
sound from narration #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:57
happybluejess: stephanieruble Just finished one in 1st person. Seemed to work for that particular PB.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:57
KellyDHouse: carolgrannick Mercer Mayer. NIGHTMARE IN MY CLOSET, ALLIGATOR UNDER MY
BED, etc. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:57
stephanieruble: RT RebeccAgent: I feel that its important in 3rd pov that the protags dialogue is distinct in
sound from narration #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:58
DDHearn: stephanieruble You’re probably right. Often I don’t remember what person a book was
written in. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:58
happybluejess: KellyDHouse My 1st person PB is very illustration-driven (although I’m not the illustrator!)
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:58
JEMACLEOD: Just joining…late as usual #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:58
bonnieadamson: KellyDHouse Aah–misunderstood your?. Anything with hashtag shows up. #kidlitchat
Tiare75: @SheviStories Yes, Shevi. Junie B. is a good example of 1st person that works. but her
story is simple. What if it is complex? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:59
jennymckmoss: @JEMACLEOD Hey you! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:59
DDHearn: Question. How do you know for sure which person is best suited for your story? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:59
KellyDHouse: @bonnieadamson OK, thanks! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:59
bonnieadamson: Clementine is 1st, right? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:59
EgmontGal: Idol is over. What did I miss? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:00
carolgrannick: @erinbowbooks Actually, fabulous example of 1st person not MC, Constance Green’s books
A GIRL CALLED AL etc. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:00
happybluejess: Isn’t BIRDS (Henkes) first person? “I can’t fly… but I can sing!” #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:00
EgmontGal: Victoria Beckham looks like a pez dispenser made of wax, by the way. #kidlitchat
1/12/201022:00
DDHearn: I always tend to write in third person, but that’s probably because I haven’t really given it the
thought I should. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:00
stephanieruble:
Two of a Kind by Jacqui Robbins, ills. by Matt Phelan is 1st person and works well. Good story and very illustrate-able. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:01
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AudryT: |
A Year Down Yonder is 1st person. #kidlitchat
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| Did I just do laundry through #kidlitchat? #blondefooey
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SheviStories: @DDHearn Try the different POVs on in your head first. And if you choose wrong, choose
again. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:01
Tiare75: @bonnieadamson Yes! Clementine is 1st, and a terrific early MG. Forgot. But she is gifted,
which maybe makes narration easier. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:01
RebeccAgent: signing out. Night all #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:01
erinbowbooks: For me, POV is one of those magic things that’s more or less fixed — given to me before I
start writing. Part of the seed. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:01
heatherwpetty: @EgmontGal Your non-sequitor is fantastic. ahahahaha! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:01
JEMACLEOD: @jennymckmoss Hey to You! SHADOW is amazing (by Jenny Moss y’all #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:01
Devas_T: Late to the discussion. Q. Is there a problem with writing YA first person? Yikes! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:01
hashtager: # @KellyDHouse Aah–misunderstood your?. Anything with hashtag shows up. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:01
paulgreci: RT @SheviStories: @DDHearn Try the different POVs on in your head first. And if you
choose wrong, choose again. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:01
AudryT: Is the theme POV? Did I miss the chat? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:01
lioncaller: I dunno #kidlitchat you are sounding a little shallow whining about twitter right now. Turn on
the news.
1/12/2010 22:02
himissjulie: @bonnieadamson yes, Clementine is 1st person–and AWESOME! I love her. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
CassidyFinn: RT @EgmontGal: Victoria Beckham looks like a pez dispenser made of wax, by the way.
haa haa #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
kellybarnhill: @EgmontGal Just spat a perfectly good mouthful of beer after reading that comment. You
should warn us! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
jeanie_w: Yes RT @bonnieadamson: Clementine is 1st, right? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
EgmontGal: I’m sorry, my first comment didn’t post, so it looks like I just came out with a howling non
sequitor #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
EgmontUSA: @EgmontGal We’re talking about POV, not Posh! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
bonnieadamson: @RebeccAgent Good night–thanks for putting up with slow/dissolving chat. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
LisaDez:
Ooo! My editor just sent my editorial letter. Gotta go! Thanks for the great chat! Night! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:02
dlschubert: Quote of the night (no surprise!): RT @EgmontGal Victoria Beckham looks like a pez
dispenser made of wax, by the way. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:02
KellyDHouse: 10:00. Wake’s down by 2 with 40 sec’s left. I gotta go. Oh, and hubby needs the ‘puter.
‘Night all! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:02
stephanieruble: RT @EgmontGal: Victoria Beckham looks like a pez dispenser made of wax, by the way. -
Ha! Never thought of her that way, will now #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
DDHearn: @Devas_T I think the consensus is that a lot of young adults prefer to read 1st person.
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
Tiare75: @EgmontGal Lol! Okay, this was so random, I just had to laugh! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
JEMACLEOD: I Love first person YA and MG. Writing and Reading #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
carolgrannick: Great chat, @gregpincus @bonnieadamson See you both next week! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:02
dlschubert: @LisaDez Have fun w/that! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:03
emilytastic: @Devas_T Heck no! As a chick who eats YA for breakfast lunch & dinner, I say write your
YA however the voice comes. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:03
JessicaLeader:
re: why more 3rd in MG and 1st in YA–maybe ppl assume teens sound more voicey and MG rdrs don’t? too bad. MG are funny voicers #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.03
JillCorcoran: so do I RT @JEMACLEOD: I Love first person YA and MG. Writing and Reading #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.03
kellybarnhill: @EgmontGal I live for the non-sequitor. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.03
JennBailey: @EgmontGal How did Ellen do? *howling non-sequitors always welcome* #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.03
bonnieadamson: @Tiare75 @himissjulie Clementine is great example of voice. #kidlitchat
1/12/201022.03
dlschubert: @EgmontGal Yeah, but it was such a great one, no one cared! #kidlitchat
1/12/201022.03
DDHearn: I think the hardest thing to do in 1st person (especially MG) might be description. Hard to
keep it in character. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.03
erinbowbooks: @carolgrannick True. I was thinking of my own emotionally-closed MC who wouldn’t dream
of speaking up in 1st person #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.04
andybrokaw: @Devas_T No problem with any POV, we were just discussing how to know which to use
when. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.04
hatbooks: Question: what are some recently pub’d MG or YA books with successful POV shifts?
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.04
Jen_Cook:
I write in third person because while it would be fun to remain in one person’s head, I want to be omniscient. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.04
AudryT: I’ve always written 3rd P. omniscient until current MS, in which I’ve saddled myself w/ two
1st P. narr’s. Ugh. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.04
YolaRamunno: I had a great time tonight. Happy writing everyone. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.04
Shelltex: I like 1st in all. Some in 3rd are okay but I probably tend to prefer first. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.04
Devas_T: @DDHearn Ah, good, thanks. Whew! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.04
carolgrannick: Last note: an absolute favorite MG in first person: LOVE THAT DOG. Love, love, love that
book! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.04
andybrokaw: Must go hang with family. Thanks everyone, it’s been fun! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.04
JillCorcoran: Stephanie Hemphill’s new YA in verse has 3 POV and is amazing. Wicked Girls #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.05
stephanieruble: @JessicaLeader 1st vs. 3rd – Maybe it’s because MG readers need more context and YA
readers need more emotion? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.05
AudryT: @DDHearn I LOVE writing description in first person. It really brings it to life. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.05
heatherwpetty: @hatbooks THE BLUE GIRL by Charles de Lint #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.05
bonnieadamson: @hatbooks Green Glass Sea had ist to 3rd shift that worked, I thought. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:05
gregpincus: @EgmontGal Actually, our topic tonight was what inanimate objects celebrities look like, so
you weren’t so far off #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:05
emilytastic: @Shelltex I’m an omnivore. I’ll read anything. And I write both ways, too. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:05
paulgreci: @hatbooks All in by Pete Hautman. YA five star voya review #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:05
kellybarnhill: All right. I’m off to finish my chapter. Night everyone! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:05
gregpincus: RT @hatbooks: Question: what are some recently pub’d MG or YA books with successful
POV shifts? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:05
erinbowbooks: @carolgrannick But THE MAGIC THIEF has an emotionally closed 1st person narrator. I
LOVE how @sarahprineas makes that work. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:05
SheviStories: @gregpincus LOL! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:05
DDHearn: @AudryT I guess I should give first person a try. I can see how it would really challenge you
to know your MC. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:06
AudryT: @hatbooks, I’d like to see a list of POV shift books you’ve read. I’d like to see how others
handle it. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:06
SheviStories:
@AudryT But you can do that in 3rd with a focal character too. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.06
bonnieadamson: @bonnieadamson no, wait, that was a tense shift, lol. Where am i? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.06
JennBailey: @bonnieadamson Ack! Wasn’t watching, but yes! that is on my “Don’ts” list. Don’t tweet
popular TV results. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.06
carolgrannick: @erinbowbooks Yes. I see your point. BTW, Greene’s books old, but fascinating technique.
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.06
laurielyoung: @gregpincus Ha! that is my cue, I really have to go. Thanks, and good night! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.06
Tiare75: I am reading The Maze Runner right now. It is 3rd person YA, and it not only works, it is
captivating and exciting. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.07
himissjulie: RT @stephanieruble 1st vs. 3rd – Maybe it’s because MG readers need more context and
YA readers need more emotion? / Yes, true. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.07
AudryT: @DDHearn First person is a HUGE challenge to character development. Brought my
characters to life. Can’t be lazy. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.07
JEMACLEOD: @JillCorcoran Hi Jill! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.07
stephanieruble: @gregpincus Good one Greg! Would love to know what the first part of the pez post was
@EgmontGal. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22.07
hatbooks:
Kathleen Duey’s SKIN HUNGER is one successful POV shift book I recently read. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:07
EgmontUSA: RT @gregpincus:@EgmontGal Actually, our topic tonight was what inanimate objects
celebrities look like, so you werent so far off #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:07
emilytastic: I honestly don’t notice there being too much 1st p in YA. Or too much 3rd p. It seems
balanced to me. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:08
carolgrannick: @erinbowbooks BTW your upcoming novel sounds fascinating. Look forward to it! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:08
AudryT: I can’t stand first person narrators with no personality or who are just a stand-in for the
author. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:08
hatbooks: @AudryT I’ll have to start a list of POV shift books… #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:08
himissjulie: @bonnieadamson re: clementine. Yes! She’s a pitch perfect 3rd grader. V. hard to pull off,
so brava to pennypacker. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:08
carolgrannick: @AudryT But I love first person narrators who SEEM like the author, but aren’t! (R.Peck, ON
THE WINGS OF HEROES) #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:09
happybluejess: Thanks to all! 19th C beckons… #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:09
AudryT: @hatbooks Please do! Tweet a link to it and I’ll be very grateful. #kidlitchat
1/12/201022:09
stephanieruble:
Hush Hush – shift from 3rd (preface) to 1st jarred me a bit, but then I fell into the story so it was all good. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.09
SheviStories: @AudryT Yes, a 1st-person MC needs to have a strong, interesting personality. #kidlitchat
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.09
DDHearn: How does voice differ between 1st and 3rd person? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.10
sybir: @dlschubert OMG, that is just so insane it’s perfect RE: Victoria Beckham #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.10
heatherwpetty: @DDHearn I usually write 3rd person from one character’s perspective. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.10
bonnieadamson: This has been a struggle–thank you to all for sticking with it. Great comments DID get through somehow. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.10
sybir: #kidlitchat I have a hard time with 1st POV just because you end up so limited. I’ve seen it
done well though. Depends on the story.
1/12/2010 22.11
heatherwpetty: @Tiare75 I disagree that it’s “too” rampant, if 1st person really does connect better with the
audience. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.11
AudryT: Just a quick note, but I’m recruiting YA authors to do a YA panel at a Doctor Who con in
Feb. Tweet me after-chat 4 details. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.11
erinbowbooks: @melodychamlee Depends. Why are you considering a POV shift in the first place?
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.11
DDHearn:
@heatherwpetty That’s how I tend to write too. 3rd person limited. One character only. So in some ways, very much like 1st? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.12
sandy_shin: @AudryT I agree! That’s the reason I often find it difficult to read 1st: if I don’t like the MC, I
can’t get into the book. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.13
AudryT: @melodychamlee @TracyClark_TLC Theres so much to mine in 1st person. Not everyone
sees the potential. Some treat it same as 3rd. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.13
JennBailey: @bonnieadamson @gregpincus Always a pleasure and always worth any hiccups. Thanks.
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.14
heatherwpetty: @DDHearn It is a lot like first in that case. The diff for me is that conversational tone v. using
thoughts/dialogue for voice #kidlitchat
1/12/201022.14
Tiare75: @heatherwpetty But when 9 out of every 10 YA books are in 1st person, aren’t we
neglecting the readers who may connect with 3rd? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.15
AudryT: Hearing the dinner bell. Sorry I missed most of this awesome topic. #kidlitchat
1/12/201022.15
DDHearn: @heatherwpetty Yes. Sometimes in 1st person I feel like the MC is talking to the reader.
(Percy Jackson series does this). #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.15
gregpincus: I echo @BonnieAdamson – thanks to all who braved the tech challenges (and came before,
during, and after Idol) #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.15
stephanieruble: RT @Tiare75: But when 9 out of every 10 YA books are in 1st person, arent we neglecting
the readers who may connect with 3rd? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.15
sharifwrites: I’ve written in 1st and 3rd person POV, and I prefer1 st; I like the way I can openly express
MC”s thoughts and feelings. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.16
paulgreci: @melodychamlee keep experimenting. 1st person will help w/character voice even if you
switch back to 3rd, just a thought:) #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.16
bonnieadamson: This has been too good to miss–perhaps we can recycle the topic another time. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.17
timkeetonwriter: ‘night #kidlitchat it’s been real.
1/12/2010 22.17
stephanieruble: @gregpincus and @BonnieAdamson Thanks for a great chat (the end of chat – missed the
beginning, but I’m sure it rocked too)! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.18
YALitReview: @stephanieruble interesting. i didnt mind the change in PoV in Hush, Hush. i usually just
skim or skip prologues anyway. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.18
DDHearn: This has been helpful. I’ll read the transcript to see what I missed.G’night, and I’ll see some
of you on #kidlitart on Thursday #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.18
hatbooks: Thanks for the kidlitchat. . .back to work on my 3rd person changed to 1st person verse
novel… #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22.19
heatherwpetty: @Tiare75 Maybe, but I tend to think of 3rd person as more remote. #kidlitchat
1/12/201022.19
cherylherbsman:
@gregpincus @hatbooks Waiting for you by Susane Colasanti #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:20
bonnieadamson: @timkeetonwriter Good night, Tim. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:20
stephanieruble: @YALitReview I usually start reading. Keep reading if good, if not, then skim. Hush Hush
prologue set up story & was good. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:20
Tiare75: @heatherwpetty Actually, so do I. And I mostly write in YA. But I am just pondering the
possible overuse of 1st person. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:20
paulgreci: @gregpincus Thanks, Greg #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:21
heatherwpetty: @DDHearn I love that effect. But then I grew up with intrusive storytellers like George
MacDonald. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:22
bonnieadamson: Good night, all. see you on the flip side. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:22
sharifwrites: @Tiare75 Thinking like a psych major now, probably the egocentric phase. Teens relating to
the “I.” #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:23
heatherwpetty: @Tiare75 Makes sense. I think most readers don’t care about POV. They just know they
like the book or not. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:24
dlschubert: @bonnieadamson @gregpincus Thanks again to you both for hosting! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:27
skodobah:
So po’ed that tweetchat didn’t work for me tonight at #kidlitchat.
1/12/2010 22:29
dlschubert: @sybir I know, right? @EgmontGal is a special kind of brilliant. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:29
stephanieruble: @melodychamlee yes, contextual scene/plot cues in 3rd are what I was talking about being
good for MG readers – esp. young MG. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:30
sharifwrites: @skodobah @melodychamlee I missed out on a lot, but enjoy the after hours stragglers.
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:36
WillowRaven: OK, I’m late, what’s the topic? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 22:36
Livingbymypen: RTsharifwrites @skodobah @melodychamlee I missed out on a lot, but enjoy the after hours
stragglers. #Kidlitchat
1/12/201022:39
WillowRaven: @melodychamlee Thanks. From my POV, the book/cover is easier to illustrate /design from
third, effectively. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:40
WillowRaven: but other than that … I really hadn’t much to offer … lol. So I guess I wasn’t missed … lol.
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:41
Livingbymypen: @melodychamleeYes,much easier 2read than when the scrollsare moving so fast,butyes I
do miss the two hosts. I wastied up til now #Kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:46
Livingbymypen: I’ll have to catch see if I can get away earlier next time. Great night all. #Kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 22:48
mkimsmith:
Working on edits #amwriting hated to miss out on #kidlitchat but too much on plate to add anything else
1/12/2010 22:53
slnaeole: Aw hell, crap, poo, dirtz, and all that other stuff I say when the kids are around. I missed
#kidlitchat again. WTG homework! \=|
1/12/2010 22:55
LiaKeyes: Dang, I missed #kidlitchat! I’ll have to read the transcript. Thank goodness for transcripts.
1/12/2010 22:57
DougMcIntire: @LiaKeyes Ok, what is #kidlitchat?
1/12/201023:11
octoberrose: Where does one go about finding transcripts of #kidlitchat?
1/12/201023:20
WillowRaven: #kidlitchat #KidLitYALitIllustrations #YALitChat Today’s illustration from ‘Shifty Characters’:
http://tweetphoto.com/8614873
1/12/201023:39
Liveamyth: RT @johannaharness: Reading _Alone with all that could happen_ by David Jauss.
Unconventional and inspiring discussion of POV. #kidlitchat
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