Kidlitchat Transcript – January 12 (part 1)
gregpincus: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you experiment with approaches
(second person, etc.)? Do readers care? #kidlitchat
YolaRamunno: @Lisawrites4kids Welcome! #kidlitchat
elizaosborn: Watching #kidlitchat from rehearsal
Buffyandrews: @EgmontUSA I see you. #kidlitchat
LisaDez: @EgmontUSA Tweetchat is VERY slow! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:01
EisleyJacobs: Good evening! First time in #kidlitchat – Making myself some coffee, can I get anyone a cup?
#BaristaExtraordinaire
1/12/201021:01
skodobah: @KatGirl_Studio Thank you! I was afraid of being one of those invisible people. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:01
KatGirl_Studio: everyone who thinks they can’t be seen I can see you so nothing to worry about #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:01
Brent_Watson41: @skodobah you are #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:01
mimickma: My first #kidlitchat too! Excited to try it out!
1/12/201021:01
KatharinaFive: Good evening everyone. #kidlitchat
jennymckmoss:
Good evening! #kidlitchat
skodobah: What a day. #kidlitchat
EgmontUSA: @Lisawrites4kids Welcome, Lisa! We’re all very nice. Promise. #kidlitchat
KrissiDallas: @Lisawrites4kids Welcome! We play nice on here. 
#kidlitchat
elan aroth: Trying again…am I here? #kidlitchat
paulgreci: @skodobah I see you #kidlitchat
EgmontUSA: @LisaDez Yes, VERY! #kidlitchat
adamselzer: ALWAYS experiment with approaches. Changing POV, 1st to third, past to present, etc can make SUCH a difference. #kidlitchat
skodobah: I always liked the way Tama Janowicz used second person in her stories. #kidlitchat
jeanie_w: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you experiment with approaches? Do readers care? #kidlitchat
laurielyoung: Hi everyone! #kidlitchat
scott_tracey:I didn’t forget this week! #kidlitchat
timkeetonwriter: Mmm… BonnieAdamson I loves me some Irish breakfast tea. That, or some nice warmEarl Grey. #kidlitchat
TracyClark_TLC: Alright, gonna try to get into the conversation! #kidlitchat
LisaDez: Great topic. Huh paulgreci? =) #kidlitchat
skodobah: First person is good for YA. #kidlitchat
Donna_Earnhardt: gregpincus I start writing and see where it goes. I have experimented with POV many times, though, after the story was written. #kidlitchat
tehawesomersace: Hey everyone!!! #kidlitchat
adamselzer: And sometimes you find out that a story would be more interesting coming from what you thought was a side character. #kidlitchat
kidlitchat: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you experiment with approaches (second person, etc)? Do editors/agents care? #kidlitchat
KellyDHouse: any hints on how to get Tweetchat to speed up? #kidlitchat
SuePinto: RT gregpincus: TOPIC:How do you determine POV for your story? Do you exp. with
approaches (2nd person, etc.)? Do readers care? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:03
Buffyandrews: POV is what feels right to me. What feels comfortable. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:03
JennBailey: Ahhh! Made it! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:03
happybluejess: Hi all! For the YA I just started, tried it in 1st person, then went to 3rd, then back again. Now
1st feels more comfortable. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:03
juliadevillers: I see it’s slow… I seem to be invisible, though? Hi? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:03
emilytastic: Hey everyone! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:03
Karen Musings: RT gregpincus: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:03
bonnieadamson: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you experiment with approaches (second person, etc)? Do readers care? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:03
amyknichols: RT gregpincus TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you experiment
with approaches? Do readers care? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:03
LJBoldyrev: RT gregpincus: TOPIC: How do you determine POV? Do you experiment with
approaches (second person, etc.)? Do readers care? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:03
inkyelbows: #kidlitchat on NOW. Topic: How do you determine POV? Do you experiment? Do readers
care? (via gregpincus)
1/12/2010 21:03
skodobah: Now the chat has stalled. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:03
Buffyandrews: RT gregpincus: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you experiment
with approaches …Do readers care? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:03
KrissiDallas: Eek… am I the only one frozen up on here? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:03
carolgrannick: gregpincus bonnieadamson Great topic. One thing for sure: experimentation with POV
can help character depth, not only of MC. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:03
scott_tracey: Sometimes experimenting with POV is the difference between finishing a book and finding
your voice. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:04
LisaDez: POV in kid lit seems to be primarily 1st. I think kids relate better to first person. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:04
TracyClark_TLC: It’s somewhat like shaving without a mirror. I assume I’m showing up even if I’m invisible to
myself. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:04
debbieohi: Evening, all! I’m probably going to lurk more than post tonight (a tad headachey) & may opt
out early. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:05
lauram68: I don’t seem to be showing up at #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:05
RebeccAgent:
hello? Is this thing on? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:05
crcook: hi everyone! Good topic tonight #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:05
Lisawrites4kids: @gregpincus I tried 1st person past tense for my YA first but really found the voice once I
used 1st person present tense. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:05
lyonmartin: hmmm. Not getting chat tweets. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:05
EgmontUSA: I’m getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:05
KellyDHouse: What’s the deal with Tweetchat tonite? SLOW! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:05
QueenbeeTF: howdy #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:05
Gwenda: Hi, everyone! Hope to hang in for a few minutes, anyway. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:05
adamselzer: The internet seems dusty tonight. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:05
LisaDez: Tweetchat is a mess! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:05
KellyDHouse: Looking forward to tonites topic. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:05
LauraHamor: hello? I don’t see anything. testing one two three. can you hear me in the back? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:05
| jeanie_w:
peg366: |
Tweetdeck is slow too. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:06 |
| For pbs for younger kids, I’ve tried 1st, 2nd and 3rd POV and 3rd works best for me. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:06 |
kidlitchat: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you experiment with approaches
(second person, etc)? Do readers care? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:06
LJBoldyrev: For me, POV is determined by the story. If it is more character based, I’d definitely go with
1st person. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:06
YolaRamunno: I find I write in first person when the character feels like home. When I am exploring a
character I write in third person. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:06
KrissiDallas: @RebeccAgent ISSUES!! Not cool… something isn’t working… I’m on TweetDeck now…
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:06
LauraSibson: Oops, forgot my #kidlitchat In my completed YA, I wrote from close third then added brief
chapters from villains POV – added a fun twist.
1/12/201021:06
elan aroth: I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%
23kidlitchat
1/12/201021:06
Buffyandrews: Is tweetchat dead? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:06
elan aroth:
Am I here yet? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:06
Buffyandrews: I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%
23kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:07
gregpincus: @Candace_xoxox I love first person too, but agree about third. You should add the
#kidlitchat tag to your tweets, btw!
1/12/2010 21:07
EgmontUSA: If you’re having trouble w/ tweetchat (mine died) try tweetgrid. It’s working. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:07
adamselzer: Frankly, these days when I read a YA that isn’t first person, it seems strange and off-balance
to me. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:07
crcook: #kidlitchat: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you experiment with
approaches (second person, etc)? Do editors/agents care?
1/12/201021:07
helainebecker: RT: @BonnieAdamson TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you
experiment with approaches? Do readers care? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:07
JessicaLeader: Gwenda is here, and she is the POV Queen! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:07
LisaDez: @jeanie_w There’s something wrong. Maybe hashtags aren’t working or something, cuz all
the tweets cut out on tweetchat #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:07
tehawesomersace: For me, POV is what I hear in my head when I think of the story. It’s usually 1st person. Tense is what usually trips me up. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:07
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amyknichols:
I determine POV based on how I hear the story in my head. For current WIP, I changed from 3rd to 1st. Most stories are in 3rd. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:07
SheviStories: Is there a kidlitchat tonight? Things seem wonky on my end. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:07
emilytastic: Usually the voice of my lead character comes to me before most of the story does. It’s
generally serendipitous. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:07
KrissiDallas: Oh, hey…. are we working now? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
laurielyoung: @juliadevillers it is slow, but I can see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
gregpincus: #kidlitchat Definite technical difficulties via the hashtag today. Streams and replies are
working fine.Tags are lagging (like this tweet!)
1/12/201021:08
QueenbeeTF: I tried to do my current WIP as first person & just got stuck so I switched to 3rd #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
_rachelsimon: @juliadevillers I can see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
TracyClark_TLC: Whose story is it really? Then will the story will benefit from the up close and very personal form of 1st psn #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
CynthiaCWillis: I’m here but I’m not showing up… #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
amyknichols: @KrissiDallas I froze and had to rebook Tweetchat. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
jlmartin: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: How do you determine POV for your story? Do you experiment with
approaches (second person, etc)? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:08
LJBoldyrev: @lauram68 @elanaroth I just showed up and I tweeted it about 3 minutes ago #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:08
debbieohi: Hmm…my last post didn’t show, anyway. I’ll lurk & read the archives after. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:08
KatGirl_Studio: I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%
23kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
tehawesomersace: I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=% 23kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
DeeTee76: It depends on the story. I write what feels right for the story. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
hipwritermama: I write a few chapters (or more, if needed) in different POV’s until the right voice talks to me.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
bonnieadamson: @KrissiDallas It’s iffy tonight. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
LisaDez: @KrissiDallas no! Something’s really wrong. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
JennBailey: I just start writing, and usually one character takes over. But, Yes, I do experiment. See
which character is most observant #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:08
jeanie_w:
@LisaDez It’s not just the #kidlitchat column that’s slow on tweetdeck. It’s all tweets.
1/12/2010 21:08
peg366: RT @carolgrannick: Great topic. One thing for sure: experimentation with POV can help
character depth, not only of MC. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:08
LJBoldyrev: @KrissiDallas No, quite a few of us are. My tweets are showing 5 minutes later #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:09
Ms_Blingammm: How ironic – this is the exact question I was researching 2 hours ago #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:09
scott_tracey: I started writing in 3rd, but once I switched to 1st I never looked back. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:09
SheviStories: Usually the best POV is obvious, I think. Sometimes, though, it’s a matter of trial and error.
#kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:09
KellyDHouse: none of my posts are showing up. Guess I’ll lurk for time being . . .#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:09
VM Petting ill: I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%
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1/12/201021:09
gregpincus: So, does voice of the main character determine the point of view? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:09
EgmontUSA: As an editor, I don’t care, UNLESS the POV chosen isn’t working for the story. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:09
omgjulia: Topic tonight is POV. I’m allergic to 2nd, but use 1st and 3rd often. Usually tight third, not
omniscient. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:09
RissaWatkins: POV? I write whichever way feels right to me for the story. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:09
NathalieMvondo: Good evening, everyone. Am I the only one with a frozen screen? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:09
skodobah: Trying tweetgrid for the first time. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:09
_rachelsimon: Usually I experiment point of views before starting the story and then I know what to use.
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:09
crcook: POV depends on the story. My MG works in 3rd. My MC can’t/shouldn’t know things the
reader should see. Another MG might need 1st #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:09
SuePinto: Whew! Made it.. ..I’m all out of breath! POV, I tend to do what feels right for me and the
characters. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:09
LisaDez: @scott_tracey Agreed. But once you’re used to one POV, I find it hard to switch. Tense too.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:09
skodobah: Tweetchat was going mental on me. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:10
paulgreci: @amyknichols I changed from 3rd to 1st on one WIP. Like the results so far. I usually write
in 1st. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:10
bonnieadamson: I experiment if the story feels as if it’s not working–usually just flip-flop between 1st and 3rd,
however–nothing fancy. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:10
jeanie_w:
RT EgmontUSA: As an editor, I don’t care, UNLESS the POV chosen isn’t working for the story. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:10
lauram68: I find the first person POV to be overused in YA/MG. I like alternating POV’s/chapter Like
Marr’s Wicked Lovely books #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:10
Buffyandrews: RT scott_tracey: Sometimes experimenting with POV is the difference between finishing a
book and finding …voice. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:10
jennymckmoss: For my wip, I began in 1st but realized I kept switching to 3rd –weird — so I switched itto
3rd. Better now. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:10
peg366: For pbs, I do mostly 3rd person. It seems most natural for the age group. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:10
andybrokaw: As a kid, I hated reading 1st person. As an adult, I usually prefer it. And it’s what is natural
when I write. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:10
srjohannes: hi guys! whats topic? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:10
kellybarnhill: #kidlitchat Hi everyone! Not sure how long I can stay, but it’s nice to see all these smiling
kidliters!
1/12/201021:10
KOrtizzle: let’s see how long tweetgrid takes…. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:10
skodobah: Can anyone see me via Tweetgrid??? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:10
LJBoldyrev:
I have considered experimenting with multiple 1st persons, but otherwise POV comes pretty naturally. So far. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:10
RebeccAgent: i think tweetchat is back #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:11
amyknichols: @paulgreci 1st definitely feels more immediate, doesn’t it? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:11
peg366: @KrissiDallas Nope, it is cold here, too. And My computer was frozen too. lol. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:11
skodobah: Ah, success! Man, I was losing it. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
ZabaBlue: Hi. I’m just going to follow along tonight. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
Candace_xoxox: @happybluejess I like first for YA and for new writers (like me) Third seems to allow for more variety in the storytelling area. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
scott_tracey: @LisaDez I definitely agree. I don’t know that I could easily go back to a 3rd person POV.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
crcook: I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%
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1/12/201021:11
KatGirl_Studio: the refresh on my tweetchat seems to be broken #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
KellyDHouse: Loving the close 3rd person. Allows intimacy of 1st person, but the freedom to step back for
world building. Good for fantasy. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:11
TracyClark_TLC: RT @TracyClark_TLC: I switched from 3rd to 1st in my YA. More depth and emotion developed. I think its better for it. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:11
carolgrannick: @NathalieMvondo No…My post from ten minutes ago just showed up! You’d think I’d been
asleep first ten minutes of chat! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:11
skodobah: Third person allows you to get into more heads. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
Donna_Earnhardt: @gregpincus I think the voice of the main character DOES help determine the POV. But it’s not the only factor. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
MyraMcEntire: I’m usually first, but the story I’m working on now requires third. It’s a strange adjustment.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
SheviStories: I rewrote parts of a WIP from the male MC’s POV. Made the story richer and the character
less flat. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
YolaRamunno: It looks like everyone is starting to show up now. Woo-Hoo! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
tehawesomersace: Twitter is sucking wind like me on a treadmill tonight. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
himissjulie: I hate when a first person POV doesn’t ring true, and I constantly think, who the hell
thinks/talks like that? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:11
KellyDHouse:
I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=% 23kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:12
amyknichols: I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%
23kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:12
crissachappell: first person = more about character (emotional/intimate). third person = more about events
(action). #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:12
JessicaLeader: @gregpincus I decide based on what level of immediacy I want, and what tone. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:12
LisaDez: @andybrokaw That’s really interesting, cuz I think most kids relate better to 1st person.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:12
EgmontUSA: @RebeccAgent But oh so slow! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:12
VM Petting ill: so far my characters have determined PoV for me. One PoV or another just felt right for that
character. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:12
bonnieadamson: @NathalieMvondo I’m getting updates, but verrry slooowly. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:12
KellyDHouse: trying TweetGrid. Seeing if any better than tweetchat. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:12
NathalieMvondo: Working now. I use two different pov: the female protagonist is dominant. male protagonist still 3rd, when FMC not in scene… #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:12
_rachelsimon:
@NathalieMvondo No, my screen is freezing as well. 
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:13
emilytastic: I’ve written books/stories from both first and third person POVs. Past and present tense. I
don’t have a set way of picking POV #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:13
_MarybethSmith_: I tried 3rd person to see how it would go and it worked perfect #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:13
cherylherbsman: I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=% 23kidlitchat
1/12/201021:13
lauram68: I’m getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:13
carolgrannick: @MyraMcEntire Can you describe what it was that made you feel that the story required
third? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:13
kellybarnhill: So, POV how many of you have gotten to the book’s end and realized they needed to
rewrite in another pov?Or, just me? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:13
crissachappell: In third, you can shift between characters (head hopping). #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:13
KatGirl_Studio: I started with 3rd person on COR and switched to 1st because it just fit the story better
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:13
LJBoldyrev: @SheviStories I am really wanting to read your Gilbert series, btw #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:13
adamselzer:
But both 1st and 3rd have different applications for plotting, the voice of the book, etc. Multiple POV is a fun challenge. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:13
NathalieMvondo: @carolgrannick ah! Hi Carolgrannick. I see u and hear u loud & clear now. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:13
Gwenda: First person can be great, but is deceptively hard to do memorably. I think it’s often used to
no clear purpose. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:13
skodobah: I give up on #kidlitchat tonight. Sorry. Gotta go take care of my #kidthatchats.
1/12/201021:13
jeanie_w: Tweetdeck seems to be picking up speed. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:13
Werecat1: I never wanted to write in first, but now I can’t imagine writing in third. Which means I’m
going to have to challenge myself. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:13
emilytastic: @MyraMcEntire I’m working on a book that switches between past and present every other
chap. It’s making me crazy, but worth it #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
LauraSibson: I don’t think voice must determine POV but it can. LIAR @justinelavaworm needed to be in
1st b/c Micah is an unreliable narrator.#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
lauram68: @LJBoldyrev I’m not showing up #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
kellybarnhill: Wow. This is crazy slow #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
juliadevillers:
Agree w/Myra. I’m most comfortable writing writing first person, but my latest middle-grade; third felt right. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:14
LJBoldyrev: @bonnieadamson I’m getting them slowly too. Mine are showing up about 10 minutes late.
And some just aren’t showing. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:14
gregpincus: @LauraSibson alternating chapters with different points of view? Did readers like it?
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:14
Donna_Earnhardt: oooh, this is new for me. tweetgrid. cool #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
_MarybethSmith_: I have issues reading first person present tense…am I the only one? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
MyraMcEntire: Awesome topic – stinky Twitter. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
NathalieMvondo: @bonnieadamson yes, my updates are funnily two minutes late but I’m happy just to get something #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
SheviStories: I prefer third with a focal character, but work in first when the MC’s voice is what makes the
story. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
VM Petting ill: My WIP had female lead in first present and male lead in first past. Sounds really confusing
but it really works for them. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
cherylherbsman: I find I connect better with the MC when it’s first person #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:14
amyknichols:
@kellybarnhill I realized about half-way through that I needed to switch. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:14
Gwenda: It also matters the genre–third more common in fantasy YA. First dominates realistic fic and
makes a strong showing elsewhere. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:14
lioncaller: I think there are bigger things afoot than #kidlitchat, as in ppl caught in a major earthquake,
and that might be why the chat is slow:(
1/12/2010 21:15
thebookbark: Figures, the first time I have a free night to join #kidlitchat there are tech issues. Ah well, we
press on!
1/12/201021:15
IllustratorErin: OK waiting for tweets to load in tweetchat was like waiting for Santa on Christmas Eve. I see
we’re talking POV… #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
crcook: we may have crashed twitter 
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
kellybarnhill: @andybrokaw You know, I had the same feeling about first person as a kid. Detested “I”
books. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
jeanie_w: I usually write in a close 3rd person. If I want to get even closer, I switch to 1st person.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
sandy_shin: My default PoV is 3rd when writing, because it is easier for me. My writing tends to get much
too chatty if I write in 1st. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
paulgreci: @kellybarnhill I’m doing that right now, switching POV. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
MyraMcEntire:
@emilytastic How are you differentiating? I mean, besides the obvious. Chapter headings? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:15
KellyDHouse: My posts aren’t showing up on Tweetgrid, either. *sigh* #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:15
TracyClark_TLC: I’m searching for #kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=% 23kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:15
cherylherbsman: @emilytastic is the change between chapters because of diff mcs or different time frames? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
nkrell: Epiphany. Watching Am. Idol, the WORST singers are the ones who argue the most. I bet
it’s the same w/ writing.#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
NathalieMvondo: @kellybarnhill I had the problem in the beginning, freaked out about going with 2 pov on a, huh, first novel :$ Crit group like #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
srjohannes: i voice drives POV – do you want to tell story from inside looking out or outside looking in.
does that makes sense? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
carolgrannick: Oh! So frustrating! RT @MyraMcEntire: Awesome topic – stinky Twitter. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:15
MyraMcEntire: @juliadevillers I think sometimes it depends on the scope of the story. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:16
gregpincus: I agree, @Gwenda. If it’s in first person, I hope there’s a reason. A good voice and point of
view… or why? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:16
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happybluejess:
@emilytastic Me too (but I’m finding it hard to stick to that structure). #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:16
RebeccAgent: i have definitely asked clients + critiques + potential clients to switch pov #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:16
scott_tracey: Hahaha! RT @MyraMcEntire: Awesome topic – stinky Twitter. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:16
KrissiDallas: Grrr…TweetChat! So…POV? I personally prefer to write in 1st person- makes it important to
have a likable MC who can carry it #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:16
nkrell: I can totally relate to agents and all of their queries. The ones that can’t, think they can.
Ouch. It’s painful to watch. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:16
kellybarnhill: @Gwenda Agreed. It can almost be divisive between narrator and reader. If not done well, it
can be a voice that grates. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:16
paulgreci: @cherylherbsman I connect better w/1 st person as a reader and writer #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:16
crcook: I have a YA wip that uses alternating POV btwn characters. Not sure how well I can pull it off
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:16
jemifraser: I prefer 3rd pov, but I also prefer to write from the pov of both the male and female mcs, so it
makes sense for me #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:16
KatGirl_Studio: I realized later that 1st person is very important factor in COR #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:16
LJBoldyrev:
@nkrell Lol, so true #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:16
YolaRamunno: I’m searching for kidlitchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?
q=kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:16
laurielyoung: Are there any statistics on what percentage of MG/YA books use 1st P vs 3rd P? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:17
adamselzer: Thing to consider when writing 1st person past tense: how far into the future from the book
are they? How to establish? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
LauraSibson: Kristin Cashore does a phenomenal job with close third – it feels like first person. I think
that’s the way it should work. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
KellyDHouse: @nkrell I’m sure you’re right! Should I tell myself to shut up, then? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
MyraMcEntire: When I know the character first, first person works. When I know the *story* first, it’s got to
be third person. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
NathalieMvondo: @Gwenda I agree Gwenda. Writing a contemporary fiction in 1st… The plot calls for it #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
JennBailey: I feel like someone in Who-ville. I am here, I am here, I am here. Don’t seem to be showing
up. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
carolgrannick: Found myself explaining difficulty of 2 alternating POVs to amazing third grader today as she
began a story! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
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cherylherbsman:
@gregpincus really? I love first person, gets me right in there to the heart of the mc #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:17
jolantru: Bronchitis not clearing any sooner. Observing #kidlitchat.
1/12/2010 21:17
MissusM: I am writing new one in 3rd POV, but considering switching #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:17
TracyClark_TLC: With last book, I heard her in 1st but wrote in 3rd. Didn’t work. I’m learning to listen to the character. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
Gwenda: @gregpincus But if it’s a strong character voice, first can be a better choice. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
JennBailey: @laurielyoung Feels like a lot of YA are 1st person. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
emilytastic: @cherylherbsman It takes place on two different days, and it differentiates the voice despite
having the same narrator. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:17
KatGirl_Studio: I prefer to read 1st person for some reason, but always liked having 3rd person read aloud
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
cherylherbsman: @MyraMcEntire interesting! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
NathalieMvondo: @carolgrannick how did the kids react? *Curious* #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
KrissiDallas: I had a student tell me recently that every book she reads in 1st person makes her think the
MC is self-centered. LOL! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:18
carolgrannick: @MyraMcEntire Interesting re: knowing character first, or story first, to determine POV.
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:18
bonnieadamson: @JennBailey I see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:18
kellybarnhill: @gregpincus Exactly. I often have my students write the same scene in 1st and 3rd.
Invariably, they’ll say 3rd pov works better #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
LisaDez: Why oh why are my tweets not showing in kidlitchat????!!!! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
SheviStories: @gregpincus Stephen King’s The Stand is written with alternating focal characters. Many
consider it his best. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
crcook: Enjoy a good discussion. I must put kids to bed. Night all! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
YolaRamunno: @nkrell Wouldn’t it be cool if there was a Writing Idol? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
NathalieMvondo: @TracyClark_TLC Thx 4 sharing. That’s interesting! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
amyknichols: Read adult novel that switched btwn two 1st POVs and sometimes to 3rd. Drove me
CRAZY. Book club book, or I’d have put it down. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:18
RKCharron: @MyraMcEntire @lauram68 @LJBoldyrev Are we discussing POV on #kidlitchat tonight?
1/12/201021:18
peg366: RT @Gwenda: @gregpincus But if its a strong character voice, first can be a better choice.
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:18
cherylherbsman: @emilytastic that sounds interesting and challenging! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:19
jeanie_w: @LauraHamor I see you in tweetdeck #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:19
Gwenda: @laurielyoung I did my thesis on omniscient POV in YA; third is still more common in MG
than in YA, esp. by Americans. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:19
emilytastic: @MyraMcEntire I’m putting the date at the top of each chapter as a sub-heading. The bk
takes place mostly on 2 different days. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:19
KrissiDallas: So I had an earlier comment that I now can’t see… curse you, technical issues! I love this
topic!! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:19
andybrokaw: @kellybarnhill Did you grow out of your I-issue too? I don’t know when or why I did. When I
started writing in 1st maybe. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:19
cherylherbsman: @KrissiDallas aren’t we all self-centered #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:19
bonnieadamson: @KatGirl_Studio It’s that authoritative authorial voice. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:19
TracyClark_TLC: Neale Shusterman’s “UNWIND” is like a master class of POV! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:19
kellybarnhill:
@Gwenda Right. The author needs to make a compelling argument as to why the reader needs to stay with that one voice. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:19
emilytastic: @happybluejess It’s hard. I’m printing out my ms and reading every few days, giving it the
red pen treatment. It helps. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:19
IllustratorErin: @TracyClark_TLC Good point. I think I’m going to start taking better notes about how the
character/idea initially comes to me. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:19
LisaDez: officially giving up now. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:19
NathalieMvondo: @MissusM Switching? Will you start from the beginning or try 1st person on next chapter to get a feel of it? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:19
Gwenda: I highly recommend Nancy Kress’s book Characters, Emotion and Viewpoint on POV. Very
practical and useful advice for writers. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
Candace_xoxox: #kidlitchat The way my mind seems to work is by enveloping the character and her emotions, so I always choose first and go for big voice.
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
carolgrannick: Well-done third person makes me feel like it’s first person… #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:20
MyraMcEntire: @emilytastic Awesome. Another book I’m getting ready to read does something like that.
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
JennBailey: In my MG I alternate POV between characters. I think it works. When I’m finished I will have
a better sense. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:20
paulgreci: my students gravitated toward 1st person novels. Male reluctant readers mostly #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:20
srjohannes: am i on yet? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:20
LJBoldyrev: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: How do you determine POV? Do you experiment with
approaches (second person, etc.)? Do readers care? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
emilytastic: @cherylherbsman I’m really into it. It makes the book fun to write – if I get frustrated/bored
with one plotline, I can switch. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
SheviStories: Discovered recently I write male MCs better than female ones–and I’m female! My girls feel
too much. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
KrissiDallas: I love writing 1st person- mostly because I’m more of a “character” writer… but the MC must
be strong enough to carry story! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
Karen Musings: RT @Gwenda: I highly recommend Nancy Kresss book Characters, Emotion and Viewpoint
on POV. V #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
LJBoldyrev: @srjohannes I see you #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
adamselzer: Someone once said no 1st person book couldn’t be subtitled “how to be more like me.”
Maybe it was ANY book. I try to avoid that #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:20
tehawesomersace:
Me too. I can’t see my tweets and it’s so slooow. RT @LisaDez: officially giving up now. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:20
jennymckmoss: Same thing happened 2 me RT @juliadevillers: Agree w/Myra. Most comfortable writing first,
but my latest. . . 3rd felt right. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:21
RKCharron: @Gwenda Suzanne Collins does 1st Person POV Present Tense the best I’ve read in quite
a while. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:21
MyraMcEntire: RT @Gwenda …recommend Nancy Kresss book Characters, Emotion and Viewpoint on
POV. . .practical and useful advice for writers. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
LauraSibson: @srjohannes I see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
RebeccAgent: @kellybarnhill even if 3rd better writing in 1st is great exercise to better understand protag’s
thoughts, feelings + motive #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
KrissiDallas: @cherylherbsman I know! If I was narrating my life, well, yeah, it would be pretty self‑
centered. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
Karen Musings: I’ve tried to do 3rd POV but I haven’t succeeded. I always come back to 1st POV. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
KellyDHouse: Anyone out there see me yet? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
paulgreci: @srjohannes yes, I see you #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
bonnieadamson:
Ursula LeGuin has some great POV exercises in STEERING THE CRAFT. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:21
elan aroth: Because I love you guys, I’m giving it one more go. Please tell me you see me. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:21
NathalieMvondo: @SheviStories But then, Stephen King knows how to do it well… I heard debut writers are discouraged from doing that. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:21
cherylherbsman: @emilytastic that’s awesome #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
LisaDez: @paulgreci I thought about you when i heard the topic! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
MyraMcEntire: @carolgrannick Yes. I think Cassie Clare nails that. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
helainebecker: I love that term:head hopping! So liceyRT: @crissachappell In third, you can shift between
characters (head hopping). #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
KrissiDallas: RT @carolgrannick: Well-done third person makes me feel like its first person… –> I do
agree! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
kellybarnhill: 1st POV requires mad control/discipline from the writer. It’s so easy to let the voice drift.
Frustrating for the reader. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
happybluejess: Didn’t WHEN YOU REACH ME have a cool/unusual POV? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
emilytastic: @MyraMcEntire What’s it called? I’d love to read it for research! #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:21
LJBoldyrev: In my early drafts of a 1st person, I was annoyed by my character and felt she was self
centered, but it was my fault. Not hers. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:22
bonnieadamson: I think it’s actually getting better–TweetChat has kicked in for me, finally. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:22
erinbowbooks: I don’t determine POV. It just comes to me with the first sentence. If the first sentence
doesn’t come, there’s no book. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:22
helainebecker: RT: @crissachappell first person = more about character (emotional/intimate). third person =
more about events (action). #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
LJBoldyrev: @elanaroth I see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
cherylherbsman: @elanaroth we see you #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
SuePinto: Is it really frowned upon among publishers to use 1st person? I’ve heard that many times. I
do what feels right for me and ms. #Kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
Gwenda: @RKCharron Agreed, v. natural in that book–it is that character’s story all the way. Rather
than focusing solely on the world. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
happybluejess: @elanaroth I see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
IllustratorErin: @elanaroth I see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
EgmontUSA:
@elanaroth I see you. Tweetchat is now all better. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:22
carolgrannick: @elanaroth See you, but don’t see myself… #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:22
NathalieMvondo: RT @KarenMusings: I highly recommend Nancy Kresss book Characters, Emotion and Viewpoint on POV. V #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:22
emilytastic: @adamselzer Interesting. Was it an essay? It sounds awesome. Then again, all my
characters are so much cooler than me. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
amyknichols: @elanaroth I see you in TweetGrid #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
johannaharness: Great conversation about 1st vs 3rd person going on right now in #kidlitchat (small plug–hi everyone–late showing up!)
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
KrissiDallas: @elanaroth Helloooooo, Elana! You’re showing up on my feed, at least… this is pretty
ridiculous. Thanks for trying again! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
NathalieMvondo: RT @happybluejess: Didnt WHEN YOU REACH ME have a cool/unusual POV? #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:22
kellybarnhill: @RebeccAgent Absolutely. Almost all of my drafts start as 1st POV. Very few stay that way,
but it’s good practice. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:22
Laurawriting: @kellybarnhill wrote a novel in third person. Felt flat. Rewrote in first and rewrote it back in
third, and.. .wa-la! Voice. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
gregpincus:
Interesting question. RT @laurielyoung: Are there any statistics on what percentage of MG/YA books use 1st P vs 3rd P? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:23
denisejaden: Everything I’m reading lately is in 3rd person for some reason, still good, but I’m usually
more of a 1st person fan #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:23
erinbowbooks: I’m reading Pratchett and wondering how he pulls of this omniscient ping-pong thing of his. I
sure couldn’t do it. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:23
kellybarnhill: @amyknichols Hooray! It’s not just me! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
jemifraser: @elanaroth I see you in TweetDeck #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
bonnieadamson: @elanaroth I see you! I see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
jeanie_w: @elanaroth I see you. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
NathalieMvondo: @elanaroth I see you Elana! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
SheviStories: @NathalieMvondo Debut writers should be encouraged to use what works best for the story,
even multiple POVs. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
Lisawrites4kids: @srjohannes hey there! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
emilytastic: There’s a chap in @randajarrar’s A Map of Home in second POV. It’s one of my fave pieces
of literature. Not kidlit, but awesome. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:23
NathalieMvondo: @carolgrannick We see you #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:23
Gwenda: If you have issues with plot, switching to third can really show you where they are. First
person is easy to tread water w/. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:23
elan aroth: Oh delightful. So… POV… #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
MyraMcEntire: @emilytastic Hey, @EgmontUSA, The Dark Divine points out very clearly where the reader
is in the story timeline, yes? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
TracyClark_TLC: @LJBoldyrev Great point! I had to learn how to make my char. less self-absorbed. Helped mss overall to learn that hard lesson. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
bonnieadamson: @KatGirl_Studio The reason you like 3rd person read aloud–sounds story-tellerish. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:23
kellybarnhill: @andybrokaw I did, but I can’t remember when….oh yes I do! When I read Love Medicine in
high school. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:24
KrissiDallas: Speaking of POV, my students always ask if there’s a 2nd person…from what I remember it
is not common nor academically taught? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:24
malindalo: I read your thesis! Loved it, very helpful RT @Gwenda: @laurielyoung I did my thesis on
omniscient POV in YA… #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:24
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JennBailey:
@elanaroth I see you, but I don’t see me. Perhaps I didn’t pay my Barney dues. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:24
RKCharron: @elanaroth I see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:24
LisaDez: @carolgrannick Mine just started showing when i tweeted i was giving up! #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:24
KellyDHouse: hello? Am I on yet? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:24
NathalieMvondo: Anyone ever wrote a novel in the second person? Just curious. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:24
lkstrohecker: The intended scope of the story makes a difference too. Take HARRY POTTER vs. PERCY
JACKSON, for ex. PJ depends on … (1/2) #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:24
andybrokaw: @elanaroth I see you! But my feed is apparently three minutes behind… #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:24
emilytastic: @MyraMcEntire @EgmontUSA That ones on my to buy & read list. Must get my hands on
that book! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:25
cindypon: @sandy_shin 3rd close is my favorite to write too. didnt realize how much first dominated YA
until read more in genre! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:25
denisejaden: @crissachappell I don’t know – I’m reading AFTER and it’s a very emotionally intense 3rd
person #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:25
RebeccAgent: 1st person is greater challenge. Must keep voice authentic. 3rd harder to avoid telling v.
showing #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:25
amyknichols: @erinbowbooks Which Pratchett? I want to read him, but not sure where to start. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:25
paulgreci: @Laurawriting I am rewriting in 1st but do not know what the final will be #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:25
LJBoldyrev: @KellyDHouse I see you #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:25
timkeetonwriter: As an unpublished novice, this may not mean much, but I hear my characters speak to me
and I write in the voices they use. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:25
SuePinto: @KellyDHouse Yes you are. #Kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:25
NathalieMvondo: @KrissiDallas Not common, not commonly taught, but it exists… #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:25
LauraSibson: @KellyDHouse I see you! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:25
adamselzer: 2nd person is “you” based. As “you woke up this morning and walk down the hall.” Tough to
make work outside of Choose Yr Own Adv #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:25
KellyDHouse: Hey! THere I am. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:25
JennBailey: @erinbowbooks Because he’s a genius! Are you reading the latest? Unseen Academicals?
#kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:25
KatGirl Studio:
KatGirl_Studio:
@KrissiDallas they used it for those “choose your own adventure” books #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:25
LauraSibson: When I click on the #kidlitchat, it seems to bring all your new tweets in. When I use my
refresh button, I lose you all.
1/12/2010 2 1:26
cherylherbsman: @timkeetonwriter that’s the best way to go and is a gift #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:26
SheviStories: @KrissiDallas All how-to is 2nd person. Also, choose-your-own-adventure and some PBs.
#kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:26
NathalieMvondo: RT @lkstrohecker: The intended scope of the story makes a difference too. Take HARRY POTTER vs. PERCY JACKSON… PJ depends on #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:26
dlschubert: Hi, gang! Just got back from dinner & B&N – keeping pub world in biz. Got Donald Maass
book. I assuming we’re talking POV? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:26
EgmontUSA: I thank @MyraMcEntire and @emilytastic plugging so I don’t have to shamelessly have to
do it. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:26
Gwenda: @malindalo YAY! I love it when that thesis is helpful. (Thesis link in case anyone is
interested: http://tinyurl.com/cu9ad3 ) #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:26
emilytastic: @KrissiDallas It would be v. hard to write a whole novel in 2p. There is a chapter in A Map of
Home in 2p. and it is lovely. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:26
KrissiDallas: @NathalieMvondo I thought 2nd person was when the narrator talks to the audience but is
not a character? Lemony Snicket, no? #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:26
happybluejess: @adamselzer I think that’s what WHEN YOU REACH ME is if I remember… #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:26
KellyDHouse: As I was saying before, I like the close 3rd person. Allows the intimacy of 1st, but more
freedom. Great for fantasy. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:27
SheviStories: Don’t say “Pratchett can do it, and I can’t.” Youil never know until you dare to try. #kidlitchat
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:27
emilytastic: @EgmontUSA I am a great plugger of books. It is one of my favorite hobbies. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:27
LJBoldyrev: @lkstrohecker I prefer Percy to Harry because of the POV,but in HP you get to know the
supporting characters better than in PJ #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:27
MyraMcEntire: @EgmontUSA I let a friend read it first and she LOVED the organization. I get it back
tomorrow! (The Dark Divine) #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:27
laurielyoung: Thanks, I would love to read it. RT @Gwenda: (Thesis link in case anyone is interested:
http://tinyurl.com/cu9ad3 ) #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:27
lkstrohecker: (2/2) … Percy’s perception of things, while HP wouldn’t work w/o a more omniscient pov that
gives us more access 2 other chars #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:27
LJBoldyrev: @MyraMcEntire TDD is one of my favorite books of 2009 #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:27
LauraSibson:
@KellyDHouse I agree with you whole-heartedly on 1st vs. 3rd. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:28
JennBailey: @RKCharron LOVE those books! Nice to find fellow fan. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:28
jeanie_w: Me too RT @KellyDHouse: I like the close 3rd person. Allows the intimacy of 1st, but more
freedom. Great for fantasy. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:28
Karen Musings: Jane Resh Thomas that is. Her book BLIND MOUNTAIN shows psychic distance 3rd POV
well. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:28
kellybarnhill: @SheviStories True. My book is an omniscient ping pong. We’ll see what people
think…. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:28
emilytastic: @KrissiDallas there is lots of sex & swearing in A Map of Home, but I rec it to anyone who
will listen, including older YAs. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:28
MyraMcEntire: RT @LJBoldyrev: @MyraMcEntire TDD is one of my favorite books of 2009 // Did you see
that @breedespain ?? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:28
LisaDez: The drawback to 1st person is you’re only in one head, but SHIVER made dual 1st person
popular. Mine just sold in that format. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:28
bonnieadamson: RT @KellyDHouse: I like the close 3rd person. Allows the intimacy of 1st, but more freedom. Great for fantasy. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:29
emilytastic: @KellyDHouse I like it too. When I write third person I tend toward close. #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:29
T Cl k TLC
TracyClark_TLC:
In recent YA, I used other devices to keep 1st psn from getting monotonous. Essays in third. Emails. etc. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:29
elan aroth: Flipping 3rd person is fine.. .just be aware of consistency and balance between characters.
#kidlitchat
1/12/2010 2 1:29
carolgrannick: RT jeanie_w: Me too RT KellyD House: I like close 3rd person. Allows the intimacy of
1st, but more freedom. Great for fantasy. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:29
erinbowbooks: SheviStories I not only dared to try, I dared to fail! #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:29
paulgreci: All-in by Pete Hautman has one 3rd person POV character and two 1st person POV
characters. Very seamless. Great YA novel #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:29
lkstrohecker: RT RebeccAgent: 1st person is greater challenge. Must keep voice authentic. 3rd harder
to avoid telling v. showing #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:29
KatGirl_Studio: what’s “close 3rd person”? #kidlitchat
1/12/20 10 2 1:29
johannaharness: kellybarnhill I’m just lovin the phrase “omnicient ping pong.” Has to be the happiest‑
sounding POV. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:30
YolaRamunno: Sometimes it’s easier to get a better view of the other characters when I write in first person.
#kidlitchat
1/12/201021:30
Laurawriting: paulgreci Great to try on different POVs. Can be scary [&daunting] to change an entire
mms, so worth itto try on for 1st 50. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:30
MyraMcEntire: I read JK Rowling and Cassie Clare to help me get a handle on close third. Also, because I
pink puffy <3 them. #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:30
malindalo: I find 3rd person ltd fairly self-explanatory, but 3rd person omniscient way harder (u have to
balance many POVs). #kidlitchat
1/12/2010 21:30
nkrell: Rethinking Literary Idol: They just put someone through who was okay, nothing outstanding.
Personality won them over. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:31
jeanie_w: RT @RebeccAgent: 1st person is greater challenge. Must keep voice authentic. 3rd harder
to avoid telling v. showing #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:31
SheviStories: @lkstrohecker Once you get into the MC’s head, 1st person is easier. It’s like Improv on
paper. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:31
crissachappell: For me, 3rd feels like watching a movie. (which is still an emotional experience) In 1st, I feel
like I’ve become the character. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:31
andybrokaw: @JennBailey I loved Unseen Academicals! Of course, Pratchett could release his shopping
list and I’d probably find it genius. #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:31
malindalo: I’ve never been a big fan of 1st person, but reading so much 1st person YA is making me
reconsider it, both as writer & reader #kidlitchat
1/12/201021:31
MyraMcEntire: @LJBoldyrev That’s so awesome!!! I know they loved hearing it! #kidlitchat
