Kidlitchat Transcript – December 1 (part 1)

•    kidlitchat: TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: ROFL! Stirring it up all ready, Ellen? RT @gregpincus: @EllenHopkinsYA Dont sass us or well ban you, ya troublemaker you :-) #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: RT @bonnieadamson: TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: Hi, all! I haven’t been here in a while, so it’s good to see you all again! #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: RT @bonnieadamson: TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: Share too much? Never!! Wanna know what I ate for lunch ;) #kidlitchat
•    AudryT: Wah, it’s #kidlitchat day. Um, how did Tuesday get here?
•    zerbinetta: RT @kidlitchat: TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @ktubb You, too. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: @zerbinetta Yay, Gretchen! Good to see your danse macabre face! #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: Too much info online? Maybe if our spouses are also using FB and Twitter… :-) #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: Definitely possible to share too much personally (even dangerous). But professionally…? #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: @Becky_Levine Howdy! :-) #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @Scribblerati Thanks! #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: I’m online for #kidlitchat tonight. Ah, TMI. There is such a thing, for sure.
•    Becky_Levine: @EllenHopkinsYA Or our teens. :) #kidlitchat
•    sharifwrites: @bonnieadamson Depends on the author’s comfort zone, if s/he want everyone to know his/her business. #kidlitchat
•    sallymurphy: Oops. I am new at this and keep fpgetting to add the hash tag #kidlitchat half a minute ago from TweetDeck
•    EllenHopkinsYA: But yeah, I think you can share too much info online #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: I can speak to Twitter – I use it 99% for writing/publishing industry stuff, very little personal.I try to stay on a prof level. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @EllenHopkinsYA I have learned about marriages and divorces online … #kidlitchat
•    janewmeade: RT @gregpincus: TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @ktubb Professionally, I think so, too. I think too much info about our agents hunts, etc, can be, well…unprofessional. :) #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: Yes. Happens every day. Some people seem like professional sharers. Have to remember it’s public and permanent. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: I keep seeing talk of “over-sharing” of information – not of the “who’s looking for what” or craft type but of the more specific #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: I do like to keep something of a line between my personal life and my public (online) life. For safety and sanity. #kidlitchat
•    inkyelbows: #kidlitchat on NOW. Topic: Is it possible to share too much personal or professional info online?
•    EllenHopkinsYA: And I would argue that you can share “too much” professionally, too #kidlitchat
•    Leaheps: I wouldn’t go telling everyone details about projects I was working on, what got rejected/accepted where & when! #kidlitchat
•    amyknichols: @HeidiRKling I agree. Definitely can cross the TMI on personal matters. #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: @sarahshum Professionally speaking, or just ewww factor? #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: here I am! Did it start? what are we talking about? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: I think this is more important for unpubbed authors…too often I see the publishing is unfair rant. Not professional at all. #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: And today’s bad day can be tomorrow’s professional nightmare if you share before you’ve thought through the repercussions. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: There’s debate on whether authors ought to share opinions of books they don’t like online … #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: Because, while I love hearing about what other authors are doing/where they’re appearing, etc. #kidlitchat, overdoing it gets old
•    adamselzer: Every author has a professional image, and if you aren’t perceived as something of a role model, it can hurt your career #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: @amyknichols Yeah, if you’re grossing me out–then you’ve gone too far. TMI people! :) #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: For example, when writers compare “wait times” from editors or agents… is this bad or good? #kidlitchat Does it depend on HOW it’s shared?
•    debbieohi: I think what you share online can affect your personal & professional reputation, yes. #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: I agree. RT @Leaheps: I wouldnt go telling everyone details about projects I was working on, what got rejected/accepted. #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: @elloecho TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
•    adamselzer: So blogging about sex, drinking, smoking, etc, is probably a bad idea #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: People forget that what’s online is PUBLIC, because they’re by themselves on the computer. But you’re speaking to millions. #kidlitchat
•    AudryT: Revealing private stuff about close friends/family w/out their permission would be TMI, IMO, esp. for a writer w/a following. #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: Hi All and definitely YES #kidlitchat
•    EgmontUSA: #kidlitchat is going to be super tricky tonight, so hi everyone, and if I can’t really say much, I’ll see you next week.
•    ktubb: @Becky_Levine Good point. I see sometimes people blogging about rejections – leave that negativity to yourself, please! #kidlitchat
•    innaj: I think it’s possible to whine overmuch in public … unless one can be funny about it. :-) #kidlitchat
•    sallymurphy: @Leaheps I agree. I wodner how agents/publishers feel about this info being public #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @bonnieadamson thank you! Good question! #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
•    sharifwrites: @Leaheps Some writers post scathing things about agents, editors, publishers, and posts are out there and can hurt them. #kidlitchat
•    PattyJMurphy: RT @thaliachaltas: Try to stay on a prof level. <Me, too. You never know who is going to read your tweet:) #kidlitchat
•    laurielyoung: I agree RT @debbieohi: I think what you share online can affect your personal & professional reputation, yes. #kidlitchat
•    rachelarrr: @EllenHopkinsYA I agree, I think you can definitely share too much professional info, too. No need to be business all the time! #kidlitchat
•    innaj: OTOH, if you’re _too_ removed, it comes across as kind of fake. #kidlitchat
•    Leaheps: @gregpincus I don’t talk about my agent and all those details–that would be weird, I think #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: Yes, there’s a real issue with sharing too much personal information. That can be embarrassing or even disturbing. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: RT @EllenHopkinsYA: While I love hearing about what other authors are doing/where theyre appearing, etc. overdoing it gets old #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: @adamselzer NO ONE should blog about sex. That’s just so high school. #kidlitchat
•    AudryT: Comparing wait times for agents/editors can help writers not to have unrealistic expectations. #kidlitchat
•    jlmartin: The thing is — readers want a piece of the writer. They want to know how they tick, want deeply personal info. #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: @BonnieAdamson @BonnieAdamson There can be TMI either prof or personal. Must consider carefully your audience, always! #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: Like here for instance. I think it’s good to share your personality, instead of ONLY promoting your books. #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @adamselzer Not necessarily. I mean, we’re all human. I’m more concerned with people know things about me only friends/fam know. #kidlitchat
•    camoulton: I try to keep as much embarrassing information about myself TO myself, whether it’s professional or not. #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: wouldn’t it also depend on what kind of audience you are targeting? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: @EgmontUSA How much info do you like your authors to share/or not? #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: @EgmontUSA How much info do you like your authors to share/or not? #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @gregpincus And dangerous. Even if you’re unpublished. #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: I personally don’t have an issue saying I got a rejection, but wouldn’t name who from. #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: RT @innaj: … unless one can be funny about it. :-) #kidlitchat <– where to draw the line on snark?
•    laurielyoung: I don’t like to post anything negative, if I don’t like it, I dont’ share it. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: What interests me most is when the information impacts the balance of power – like saying that Editor X takes 10 weeks to reply. #kidlitchat
•    amyknichols: @innaj That’s true. I like interacting with people, not just reading their sales pitches. #kidlitchat
•    Leaheps: I think you have to develop an online persona that’s distinct from who you are at home, at work, etc.-boundaries #kidlitchat
•    jlmartin: @jlmartin There’s definitely a fine line to be drawn though. #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: I like people to know I’m human, normal and far from on top of everything in my life. BUT try and keep upbeat and positive. #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: I definitely agree with @ellenhopkinsYA that it shouldn’t all be about our professional lives #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: @EllenHopkinsYA I agree. Personality is good, rather than only promo, but there are some personal things it’s not app to share #kidlitchat
•    mikalroy: Years ago I was on GEnie, an early bbs for writers. Broke my heart to read some of the posts from writers I admired. So I quit. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @EllenHopkinsYA You need to talk about something besides just your books, definitely. #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: Big turn off = person using media only/primarily for “vote for me/buy my book” etc. Esp. spam chats/lists w/promotion. #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: Not only personal info, but just plain too much talk about where author is signing, visiting, i tune them out, too much “me”. #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: part of the message here for me is that agents are people too with lives #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: And if *everything* you post is negative/weird/TMI…who would want to work with you? #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: I don’t mind sharing an embarrassing story as long as its entertaining and audience appropriate. #kidlitchat
•    sharifwrites: @debbieohi Should be ok to write about surface things, but not anything too deep that can be used against you. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: I think that people who read authors’ tweets, etc., do so for a sense of personal connection, not just to know about next event #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: Or aim for constructiveness. RT @laurielyoung: I dont like to post anything negative, if I dont like it, I dont share it. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @Leaheps I think it can be weird to talk about your agent working with you. Then again, what if that information helps others? #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: Bagging another writer/publisher/agent/editor is NOT OK ever, IMHO. Sharing the struggles of writing from a person persp. is. #kidlitchat
•    sallymurphy: I see a lot of people tweeting etc ‘My MS is under consideration at XYZ publisher.’ I wonder what XYZ thinks of this. #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: but I am selective about what I say here about my personal life #kidlitchat
•    camoulton: Definitely keep the photos of you taking body shots off your girlfriends at the bar OFF your facebook. #kidlitchat
•    jennymckmoss: A reader told me he didn’t like to chat w/ authors – it took away the mystery & away from his enjoyment of their books #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: I would personally never share info about editors or agents unless I knew it was okay with them. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: Neil Gaiman is a good example to follow, though there’s been a bit too much Amanda Palmer gushing recently for comfort. lol #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @Scribblerati Agreed! #kidlitchat
•    Selestial: I think some degree of filtering is a good idea online, especially when you write for kids #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: @EKokie Couldn’t agree more! Don’t mind an invite to read a blog or announce a book, but don’t do the hard sell on me! #kidlitchat
•    janewmeade: If you’re a Children’s Lit writer, you’ll want to participate in #kidlitchat. Happening now!
•    YolaRamunno: I will share who I am as a person but refrain from telling too much. #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: RT @Leaheps: I think you have to develop an online persona thats distinct from who you are at home, at work, etc.-boundaries #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: That editor or agent might be interested in a project, but change their mind after that! #kidlitchat
•    PattyJMurphy: RT @EllenHopkinsYA: I think its good to share ur personality, instead of ONLY promoting ur books <–:) Nice 2 build community… #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: Editor Wendy Loggia says she’s rejected mss after Googling the author & finding they’re too whiny/negative: http://bit.ly/8TY0AS (expand ) #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: I have decided that Facebook is for people I know only and twitter is open to all #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: Yes, personality is important! It’s how we get to know one another in a very solitary profession. #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: Agreed. RT @zerbinetta …we’re all human. I’m more concerned with people know things about me only friends/fam know. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: I think maybe it’s that you need to be enjoying being online, not being there just because think you “ought” be for bus. reasons #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: @sallymurphy I’ve seen that, too. Feels odd, like a jinx or something! :-) #kidlitchat
•    DorothyHearst: Hi all, my first time on #kidlitchat. Your online persona is part of your personal brand/ author image, should be managed as such.
•    tehawesomersace: @zerbinetta Yes! It drives me crazy when some people’s online persona is the electronic equivalent of Pollyanna. Be honest. #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @camoulton Now, Facebook to ME is about the personal. You can control who you add and who sees what. Blogs and Twitter, no. #kidlitchat
•    camoulton: @EKokie These people I try to ignore. I get most of those spammy people on my MySpace page (which I should just get rid of) #kidlitchat
•    Leaheps: @gregpincus that’s a hard one–you want to be helpful, but maybe it’s best in person to talk details…or at a conference. #kidlitchat
•    amithaknight: hi everyone! haven’t been to #kidlitchat in a while!
•    thaliachaltas: @Scribblerati Oh, yes, the gushing! I agree! #kidlitchat
•    Shelltex: I don’t want to know about relationship issues or negative opinions of specific eds or agents. That’s what friends are for. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: I understand not posting anything negative. Then again… what about this scenario… (next tweet) #kidlitchat
•    mikalroy: There is an online persona and a real person, and hopefully that is clear to everyone out there. #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: Being clear about where one chooses to draw boundaries seems key for one’s sanity. We will all draw them a little diff’ly #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: @RebeccAgent ditto for me. I talk with writers and pub profs here to share of my personality because this business is personal #kidlitchat
•    YolaRamunno: @RebeccAgent I have to agree. Facebook has more of a hometown feeling. #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: Seems to me there’s 2 kinds of info. Sharing personal to build audience and sharing professional to help writers? #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
•    amithaknight: me too. RT @RebeccAgent: I have decided that Facebook is for people I know only and twitter is open to all #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: That’s what I’m trying to keep too RT @RebeccAgent have decided that Facebook is for people I know only & twitter is open to all #kidlitchat
•    PattyJMurphy: @gregpincus: If you wouldn’t say something to someone’s face…why tweet it??? #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: Scenario: an editor doesn’t reply as they have said they would, as they agreed to do at a conference and despite followups (1/2) #kidlitchat
•    carolgrannick: RT @DorothyHearst: Your online persona is part of your personal brand/ author image, should be managed as such. #kidlitchat
•    mikalroy: I have different levels of friendship on FB. “Extremely limited” if I don’t know you, and regular for friends. Keeps it clean. #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: I did recently visit a blog in which @EllenHopkinsYA included a fabulous, informative comment about advances. Thank you, Ellen! #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: I stopped blogging about my rejections after hearing Wendy Loggia’s talk at #scbwi09. #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: @EllenHopkinsYA I agree that permission to speak about agent/editor is imperative. Don’t want to tick anyone off! #kidlitchat
•    AudryT: If all you do online is self-promotion, it gives the impression of being self-centered, whether or not you really are. #kidlitchat
•    swdillard: I’m very wary of mentioning anything specific as far as work or potential work goes. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @DorothyHearst To an extent. I consider what to share, but I don’t think of myself as a brand … would show, if I did. #kidlitchat
•    Leaheps: although if someone’s a fraud then all bets are off, and I’d tell! #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: Like I won’t do images of me, my kids or husband on my blog (but that’s just me). Less clear about what info to share or not. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: @zerbinetta Agree that Facebook is more personal, but I still have my public FB account for writing friends and one for family #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: Scenario (2/2): You mention this and learn it’s a pattern. You share info, and everyone realizes this is a problem. Good? Bad? #kidlitchat
•    jennymckmoss: So I can’t blog about Clive Owen anymore? *pouts* #kidlitchat
•    amgamble: Do y’all worry about safety/stalker issues, not just professional/brand persona? #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: @yolaramunno exactly. I mean my mom is on my facebook page. I don’t need everyone having access to mom. #kidlitchat
•    sallymurphy: @ktubb And it also seems like it’s building a list of who’s rejected it for future pubs to see. #kidlitchat
•    sharifwrites: @amyknichols I love for the author’s personality to show, not a bombardment of pitches. #kidlitchat
•    Leaheps: RT @PattyJMurphy: @gregpincus: If you wouldnt say something to someones face…why tweet it??? #kidlitchat
•    KatGirl_Studio: @PattyJMurphy ya nothings private on the internet #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: Also, I keep in the back of my mind that my editor reads every one of my posts. #kidlitchat And so does my mom. So…
•    KayCassidy: RT @PattyJMurphy: If you wouldnt say something to someones face…why tweet it??? <– Oh my goodness, yes! #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: @mikalroy Good idea to have different levels of friendship on FB #kidlitchat
•    AnnetteFix: For better or worse, I tend to be authentic and transparent, but my book is like The Emperor’s New Clothes paperback edition. #kidlitchat
•    PattyJMurphy: RT @swdillard: Im very wary of mentioning anything specific as far as work or potential work goes. <–So agree:) #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: And when in process, like querying agents, sometimes too much info is crazy-making and YOU have to step back not to obsess 24/7. #kidlitchat
•    paulgreci: @EllenHopkinsYA Yes, I agree. No personal info about agents and editors w/out them knowing. That’s not helpful. #kidlitchat
•    jlmartin: I really enjoy the blog of author Stephanie Burgis. It feels very personal, but really not inappropriate at all. #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: but also my life is personal and separate from my work. #kidlitchat
•    SuePinto: If using Twitter in prof. capacity then definitely need to be prof. but can also show some personality-do no apprve cursing. #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: @AudryT Couldn’t have said it better! Self-promo OK in small doses but shouldn’t be sole purpose for tweets/blog #kidlitchat
•    CynLeitichSmith: #kidlitchat Howdy! 1rst time here, so I’m just trying to sort of absorb it all. But I didn’t just want to lurk. Lovely to see y’all tonight!
•    saundramitchell: I added everybody to my Facebook, but I’m sorry I did. Just try to tell your dad he shouldn’t use his grandkids’ names. o_O #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @amgamble I’ve had a few stalkers on my blog and FB and good reads -definitely creepy #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: @jennymckmoss Umm…if you’re blogging about Clive Owen I need to stop by your blog <3 <3 <3 :) #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: When my agent joined Facebook I felt way more uncomfortable than when my mother did! lol #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: I’ve been online since 1987 so never really had to think about persona! I think carefully about what I post, but I’m still me. #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: As for “online and real” personas, with me, it’s pretty much all the same. What you “see” here is ppretty much me. #kidlitchat
•    amyknichols: @sharifwrites Me, too. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @PattyJMurphy: But what if someone is downright rude and unprofessional and abuses power? Is that okay? #kidlitchat
•    carolgrannick: @CynLeitichSmith Welcome! Glad to see you here! #kidlitchat
•    jennymckmoss: @CynLeitichSmith Hi Cynthia! #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: @CynLeitichSmith Welcome! jump in anytime! #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: Seen others say similar. RT @debbieohi: Editor Wendy Loggia’s rejected mss after Googling author & finding too whiny/negative #kidlitchat

8:12 pm innaj: @CynLeitichSmith Hey Cyn! (I’m here until dinner’s ready, myself.) #kidlitchat
8:12 pm debbieohi: I always try to assume the person I’d LEAST want to read a blog post/tweet WILL read it eventually. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm Scribblerati: @CynLeitichSmith Welcome to the chat! Happy to hear that you and Andrew Smith are putting together a fascinating interview #kidlitchat
8:13 pm jennymckmoss: @tehawesomersace lol – we’ll talk #kidlitchat
8:13 pm KarenCollum: I keep FB for friends (mainly) & family and Twitter for writing related stuff. Great community of writers on here. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm saundramitchell: @CynLeitichSmith Hey Cynthia! #kidlitchat
8:13 pm sarahshum: @gregpincus I think in a public forum, it’s not helpful to post/share info. Among other conference leaders, however, sure. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm RebeccAgent: I’ll admit it. Agents are like everyone else. On a bad day we might just google ourselves to make us feel better… #kidlitchat
8:13 pm mikalroy: @CynLeitichSmith Welcome, Cyn! It’s a whirlwind, but always genial and fascinating. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm YolaRamunno: @RebeccAgent I hear you. I like to use Twitter as more of a professional link. My fb friends would be bored w/ my tweets. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm gregpincus: I think everyone needs to have a “friend” policy for every social network. Makes it easy to feel comfortable on each one #kidlitchat
8:13 pm tehawesomersace: Yup. Me too. RT @EllenHopkinsYA: As for “online and real” personas, with me, its pretty much all the same. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm KatGirl_Studio: @EllenHopkinsYA Me too. I’m not that much different in real life. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm thaliachaltas: I like that! RT @debbieohi: I always try to assume the person Id LEAST want to read a blog post/tweet WILL read it eventually. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm laurielyoung: Me too ;D RT @tehawesomersace: @jennymckmoss Umm…if youre blogging about Clive Owen I need to stop by your blog <3 <3 <3 :) #kidlitchat
8:13 pm sharifwrites: @elloecho Haven’t experienced that yet. Would hate for anyone to obsess about me and my posts. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm AudryT: @EllenHopkinsYA I’m WYSIWYG online, too. No alternate personality. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm PattyJMurphy: @CynLeitichSmith: Welcome…great to SEE you:) #kidlitchat
8:13 pm Becky_Levine: @CynLeitichSmith Hey, Cynthia. Welcome! #kidlitchat
8:13 pm rj_anderson: Yes! Exactly. RT @debbieohi: I always try to assume the person Id LEAST want to read a blog post/tweet WILL read it eventually. #kidlitchat
8:13 pm amyknichols: @elloecho Stalkers! Yikes. That makes me not want to have an online presence. :-/ #kidlitchat
8:13 pm EllenHopkinsYA: As for FB, my 12-yr-old just friended me and MADE me do stinking Fishville… #kidlitchat
8:13 pm RebeccAgent: …and it’s a mountain of suck to find something bad about ourselves posted by someone that doesn’t even know us… #kidlitchat
8:14 pm KayCassidy: @saundramitchell I’ve had to explain to family my FB is solely for author use. It’s hard having to say no, but best for privacy. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm debbieohi: I keep most of my non-writing tweets in @DebOhi for the sake of my non-writer friends. :-) #kidlitchat
8:14 pm carolgrannick: @gregpincus No matter what happens between editor and author or author and agent, I wouldn’t put it online. Feels like gossip..? #kidlitchat
8:14 pm EllenHopkinsYA: So yeah, I’m closing up a little there, although it’s probably good for him to see how I relate to people outside the fam. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm RebeccAgent: …I do worry that a scorned writer can taint an image unfairly. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm HeidiRKling: @jennymckmoss :) #kidlitchat
8:14 pm ktubb: @CynLeitichSmith Hi, Cyn! :-) #kidlitchat
8:14 pm rj_anderson: I’ve always assumed that nothing I post to my blog etc. is REALLY private. So I try not to ever post anything I’d be ashamed of. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm KarenCollum: I’m a very transparent, ‘What you see is what you get’ kind of person in real life and online. I’m not projecting an image >> #kidlitchat
8:14 pm Becky_Levine: RT @debbieohi: I always try to assume the person Id LEAST want to read a blog post/tweet WILL read it eventually. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm mikalroy: @debbieohi That’s what drives most of my snarky writing. Bring it on! #kidlitchat
8:14 pm thaliachaltas: Oh, the peer pressure! RT @EllenHopkinsYA: As for FB, my 12-yr-old just friended me and MADE me do stinking Fishville… #kidlitchat
8:14 pm innaj: I choose the parts of my life to share sometimes, but I don’t invent anything or create a personna. It’s all real. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm zerbinetta: I’m way cool with my agent’s FB and Twitter connections. She’s my barometer – if I wouldn’t want her to read it, don’t post it. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm jlmartin: @RebeccAgent Gosh agents sound just like writers. :) #kidlitchat
8:14 pm bonnieadamson: Twitter is my “office.” But it’s a friendly one, with great talk around the water cooler. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm elloecho: @sharifwrites have had issue with stalkers emailing me. problem with being too open is people think they really know you. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm amyknichols: @AudryT WYSIWYG here, too. Is that a bad thing? #kidlitchat
8:14 pm KayCassidy: @rj_anderson @debbieohi I always use the “If my grandmother was reading this…” mantra as my failsafe. :-) #kidlitchat
8:14 pm gregpincus: @sarahshum I tend to agree. Can’t see the upside. But I do see semi-private writers communities where information is shared #kidlitchat
8:14 pm camoulton: @Zerbinetta That’s true. There’s definitely a distinction. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm StephanieDBrown: There must be SOME boundaries. I’m a teacher and a lot of my students find me on Twitter or Facebook or my blog so I’m careful. #kidlitchat
8:14 pm peg366: I set a separate fb acct for family and one for writers, eytc. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm EgmontUSA: @Scribblerati There’s fun stuff, and then there’s tmi. My Ed. really helped me w/ that point that’s been plaguing me. Fine. 1/2 #kidlitchat
8:15 pm innaj: Facebook. Where your family can share pictures of you at age 12 with your readers. :-) #kidlitchat
8:15 pm AudryT: Being WYSIWYG online is why I don’t censor or restrict the subjects I cover on Twitter/Blog/FB. That would be false. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm peg366: RT @bonnieadamson: Twitter is my “office.” But its a friendly one, with great talk around the water cooler. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm elloecho: @amyknichols I’m surprised more people haven’t had this problem? #kidlitchat
8:15 pm KarenCollum: <<but I am also aware that what I write online can be accessed by everybody, including agents & publishers. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm debbieohi: LOL! –>RT @mikalroy: @debbieohi Thats what drives most of my snarky writing. Bring it on! #kidlitchat
8:15 pm gregpincus: They will! RT @debbieohi: I always try to assume the person I’d LEAST want to read a blog post/tweet WILL read it eventually. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm HeidiRKling: Also, it’s good to remember that locked posts can easily be copied elsewhere–nothing is fully “private” on the net #kidlitchat
8:15 pm sharifwrites: @elloecho Actually, I remember one time, but didn’t respond to person and he left me alone. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm Leaheps: @peg366 how do you do that on facebook? #kidlitchat
8:15 pm KarenCollum: I think of it as ‘the job interview I don’t even know I’m having’. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm AnnetteFix: @elloecho @sharifwrites You consider it stalkerish if readers email you? #kidlitchat
8:15 pm zerbinetta: @EllenHopkinsYA Oh you are so screwed. Bwahahahaha. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm rachelarrr: @StephanieDBrown I was just thinking that it’s similar to being a teacher with boundaries and being aware of what you post. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm laurielyoung: I love this-me too! RT @bonnieadamson: Twitter is my “office.” But its a friendly one, with great talk around the water cooler. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm PattyJMurphy: RT @KayCassidy: @rj_anderson @debbieohi I always use the “If my grandmother was reading this” mantra as my failsafe. <-Love it:) #kidlitchat
8:15 pm innaj: Livejournal lets you lock posts/filter who sees them. Can be useful sometimes. #kidlitchat
8:15 pm MyraMcEntire: #kidlitchat Can you circumvent the privacy issue by having a fan page and a private page on FB?
8:16 pm debbieohi: RT @KayCassidy: @rj_anderson @debbieohi I always use the “If my grandmother was reading this…” mantra as my failsafe. :-) #kidlitchat
8:16 pm EllenHopkinsYA: We do have private listservs for authors, where we share info… so careful y’all! #kidlitchat
8:16 pm RickiSchultz: I am myself on Twitter & on my blog, but I do self-censor a bit. I try to curse less (or not at all). #kidlitchat
8:16 pm Becky_Levine: RT @HeidiRKling: good to remember that locked posts can easily be copied elsewhere–nothing is fully “private” on the net #kidlitchat
8:16 pm sharifwrites: @elloecho Yes, something wrong with people who think they know you so easily, whether online or in person. #kidlitchat
8:16 pm thaliachaltas: @bonnieadamson Wait! You have a water cooler in your Twitter office? Yeesh. #kidlitchat
8:16 pm gregpincus: Here’s a question: is it gossip to state “Agent X took 10 weeks to reply to a manuscript” w/o saying bad or good. Just the fact. #kidlitchat
8:16 pm Shelltex: My FB has mostly personal stuff and lots of old friends. They’d be bored with my blog and Twitter most days. #kidlitchat
8:16 pm HeidiRKling: @MyraMcEntire That’s a really good thought. Some people do that I think… #kidlitchat
8:16 pm elloecho: @sharifwrites Yes I find that is the best strategy with stalkers. #kidlitchat
8:16 pm debbieohi: @HeidiRKling I STRONGLY agree. (re: Nothing is private online, even so-called “locked” posts) #kidlitchat
8:16 pm AudryT: Seems like a good thing to me. Builds solid relationships. RT @amyknichols: @AudryT WYSIWYG here, too. Is that a bad thing? #kidlitchat
8:16 pm zerbinetta: RT @innaj: Facebook. Where your family can share pictures of you at age 12 with your readers. :-) (oh the horror) #kidlitchat
8:16 pm RebeccAgent: I don’t post negative reviews of books on goodreads because I don’t want editors I work with to see those reviews… #kidlitchat
8:16 pm tehawesomersace: @gregpincus Absolute Write is awful about this. People really think they’re anonymous and bad mouth agents, editors, etc. #kidlitchat
8:16 pm adamselzer: @MyraMcEntire Yeah, but people on the fan page will often add you as a friend from there. #kidlitchat
8:16 pm RickiSchultz: Whereas, on Facebook, I sometimes swear or am a bit more random than on here. #kidlitchat
8:16 pm DorothyHearst: @innaj “Brand” not in sense of something false, but as external picture of those parts of ourselves we wish to share. #kidlitchat
8:16 pm bonnieadamson: @thaliachaltas Doesn’t everyone? #kidlitchat
8:16 pm KarenCollum: @innaj I believe there is away around the livejournal privacy settings. Think I heard an agent once say they could still check.. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm PattyJMurphy: @myramcentire: hellloooo friend:) #kidlitchat
8:17 pm YolaRamunno: My critique group recently dissolved and I was wondering if it would be too risky to look for another one on twitter. Thoughts? #kidlitchat
8:17 pm RebeccAgent: …I only use it as a record of what I am reading, to get suggestions from others, and laud the books I really love #kidlitchat
8:17 pm Scribblerati: RT @EgmontUSA: @Scribblerati Theres fun stuff, and then theres tmi. My Ed. really helped me w/ that point #kidlitchat
8:17 pm libmaryann: RT @BonnieAdamson Twitter is my “office.” But it’s a friendly one, with great talk around the water cooler. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm innaj: @MyraMcEntire Every time I’ve tried to separate personal and professional posting, I’ve found they’re too intertwined. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm gregpincus: This is why reputation matters. RT @RebeccAgent: …I do worry that a scorned writer can taint an image unfairly. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm AudryT: However, I also think it’s great to see creators producing character-oriented tweets/sites where they RP. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm Becky_Levine: @ktubb Exactly. It sounds negative & there’s a story behind it, from the agent’s pov, that we don’t know. Why whine? #kidlitchat
8:17 pm Leaheps: @gregpincus maybe you could share that on Verla kay’s or something–not sure I would, though it’s helpful… #kidlitchat
8:17 pm katrinagermein: it’s only fun to follow people when they share at least a little of their personal self. #kidlitchat #red
8:17 pm sharifwrites: @AnnetteFix Depends on content and frequency, but stalkerishness becomes obvious. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm DDHearn: @innaj I agree about Facebook. Though I have some professional contacts, to me it’s more of a friend’s site. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm EKokie: I’m always amazed when someone gets outraged a “private” message they sent has been made public. Assume if in writing=public #kidlitchat
8:17 pm elloecho: @debbieohi agreed – even when you delete a post – it is still online somewhere. I found that true for something I deleted. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm EllenHopkinsYA: I think it’s fair enough to post info like that, Greg… without judgment. And hey, 10 weeks ain’t bad. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm rachelarrr: @Shelltex Yeah, my Facebook is mainly for family and people I went to high school with. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm KayCassidy: @MyraMcEntire Definitely. I know authors who do that – but they astound me. I can barely keep up my author page and book page. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm laurielyoung: @gregpincus what does that accomplish? (agent taking 10 weeks . . .) #kidlitchat
8:17 pm KarenCollum: RT @BonnieAdamson Twitter is my “office.” But its a friendly one, with great talk around the water cooler. <<Love it #kidlitchat
8:17 pm rj_anderson: I think chat rooms are the easiest/most dangerous place to get carried away. Easy to respond impulsively, regret what you say. #kidlitchat
8:17 pm tehawesomersace: People: even with a screen name you aren’t as anonymous as you think. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!! :) #kidlitchat
8:18 pm RickiSchultz: FB was good practice, however, b/c I have a lot of frmr students as “friends” there…so I definitely think abt what I write.#kidlitchat
8:18 pm amyknichols: @gregpincus I’ve seen that kind of information on forums. It did seem just informational and not snarky. So it seems harmless. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm Becky_Levine: @gregpincus VerlaKay has a specific spot for that info. So do other forums. Feels random & negative just out on Twitter/FB. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm rachelarrr: @YolaRamunno Risky in what sense? #kidlitchat
8:18 pm StephanieDBrown: @gregpincus I think that info is good 2 share among friends interested querying an agent but maybe not for a general web site. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm MyraMcEntire: @PattyJMurphy *waves* Helllloooo back! #kidlitchat
8:18 pm sarahshum: I think posting negative reviews (esp us industry folk) is a no-no. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm Leaheps: RT @katrinagermein: its only fun to follow people when they share at least a little of their personal self. #kidlitchat #red #kidlitchat
8:18 pm peg366: @Leaheps Isigned up under two variations of my name. Gave Fam the second one. Ask them not to use the first one. They agreed. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm thaliachaltas: @gregpincus I would say keep comment re how long response took from agent/editor on a private list serve discussion, not tweet. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm carolgrannick: @Leaheps Agree with posting on Verla’s boards…I read, but don’t post info. Interesting… #kidlitchat
8:18 pm earth_mommy: I am late for #kidlitchat
8:18 pm KarenCollum: @gregpincus I might post that AN agent took 10 weeks but wouldn’t post specifics. Naming names can be a dangerous thing… #kidlitchat
8:18 pm DorothyHearst: Agree! RT @katrinagermein it’s only fun to follow people when they share at least a little of their personal self. #kidlitchat #red
8:18 pm debbieohi: @elloecho That goes for deleted websites as well as tweets! I figure everything’s archived somewhere. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm EllenHopkinsYA: Ah, @rebeccagent, not sure that’s so. Most of us understand the nasty things scorned writers say/do #kidlitchat
8:18 pm EgmontUSA: @Scribblerati I was going to do scenario 2, but am not feeling creative. 2/2 #kidlitchat
8:18 pm leewind: Hi All! I act as if you can NOT sequester certain info from certain people once it’s out there on the web. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm gregpincus: Again, I’m never talking about badmouthing personally, by the way. That’s never a good strategy. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm peg366: RT @sarahshum: I think posting negative reviews (esp us industry folk) is a no-no. #kidlitchat
8:18 pm Scribblerati: I’ve heard that employers check out Facebook pages before hiring, or promoting employees. Wouldn’t agents and editors do same? #kidlitchat
8:18 pm Selestial: Good point @RebbecAgent. When I have negatives to say about books on my blog, I don’t mention titles or authors (cont.) #kidlitchat
8:18 pm crcook: RT @BonnieAdamson: TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
8:18 pm YolaRamunno: I never write a status update on fb, for some reason I feel corny! #kidlitchat
8:19 pm adamselzer: There’s a balance. I don’t want to talk about JUST work, but my readers don’t need to hear about all of my problems #kidlitchat
8:19 pm PattyJMurphy: @RebeccAgent: I’m a BIG fan of lauding the good…that’s how I like to live:) #kidlitchat
8:19 pm Scribblerati: Being negative online only makes YOU look bad! #kidlitchat
8:19 pm Selestial: I just discuss what didn’t work for me in general terms and why. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm librarian_holly: RT @libmaryann: RT @BonnieAdamson Twitter is my “office.” But it’s a friendly one, with great talk around the water cooler. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm onbeyondwords: I took a while to define an angle for my blog &Twitter – it’s a balance of sharing information and establishing an identity. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm debbieohi: RT @sarahshum: I think posting negative reviews (esp us industry folk) is a no-no. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm sharifwrites: @YolaRamunno You can try meetup. You can see reviews and other info. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm EKokie: @gregpincus Gossip or not, response times/responses/expereinces DO get shared in forums/lists/chats. So share public version. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm innaj: @DDHearn FB is odd because it really pulls in ppl from every part of your life. Writer friends, siblings, grade school enemies.. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm KayCassidy: @RebeccAgent That’s what I do too. Good karma is highly underrated. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm thaliachaltas: @leewind Hi Lee! #kidlitchat
8:19 pm DDHearn: @gregpincus If you want to ever do business with agent X again, maybe best not to say anything negative on public forums. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm KarenCollum: @Scribblerati My understanding is a big YES. In an #askagent chat it was stated they ‘screen for crazies’ LOL #kidlitchat
8:19 pm debbieohi: RT @PattyJMurphy: @RebeccAgent: Im a BIG fan of lauding the good…thats how I like to live:) #kidlitchat
8:19 pm elloecho: @debbieohi YEP! That’s why once you post – it is always out there. And people seem to forget this. #kidlitchat
8:19 pm carolgrannick: @Scribblerati Same as in person, right? #kidlitchat
8:20 pm leewind: Distinctions of facebook groups, or listserves, or even e-mail seem very open to ccing & broadcasting & hacking #kidlitchat
8:20 pm EgmontUSA: @Scribblerati Basically, be smart and remember anyine can see, including your publisher, or the subject of your tweets. #kidlitchat
8:20 pm Becky_Levine: @leewind because you CAN’T sequester it. :) #kidlitchat
8:20 pm HeidiRKling: @RebeccAgent I only write positive reviews on Goodreads too. #kidlitchat But I use it more as an “I recommend this book” #kidlitchat
8:20 pm zerbinetta: @Scribblerati But they can only see what you let them see. Remember you can “tier” your FB profile with who can see what. #kidlitchat
8:20 pm PattyJMurphy: RT @KayCassidy: @RebeccAgent Thats what I do too. Good karma is highly underrated. <<–We may be sisters:) #kidlitchat
8:20 pm AnnetteFix: @sharifwrites Never really considered it stalkerish, but they also weren’t getting psycho about it. #kidlitchat
8:20 pm rj_anderson: I find it encouraging when authors share their struggles with writing & publishing — but has to be done carefully so not whiny. #kidlitchat
8:20 pm Gwenda: They key to revealing personal info online to me, is that it can’t be *too* personal. #kidlitchat
8:20 pm jennymckmoss: Do u find writers blog less/more or change their blogging styles after publication? #kidlitchat
8:20 pm MyraMcEntire: As far as negative opinions of other authors/their work – there’s SO MUCH good stuff out there! I want to hear about that! #kidlitchat
8:20 pm thaliachaltas: @gregpincus I do think sharing that info is important, just not on a world wide basis. #kidlitchat
8:20 pm KarenCollum: I’m part of a closed yahoo group for when I want to whinge, talk about particulars etc. #kidlitchat
8:20 pm debbieohi: @KayCassidy @RebeccAgent I feel similarly. I’d rather spend the time/space promoting a book I liked that bashing one I didn’t. #kidlitchat
8:20 pm AudryT: Being critical online of industry pros b/c of a personal experience is too flame-ish. But alerting peers to scammers = OK (IMO) #kidlitchat
8:20 pm Leaheps: I kind of think it’d be exhausting to have more than one facebook account like Marsha Brady on multiple dates at same time #kidlitchat
8:20 pm aliciapadron: I honestly don’t think agents or editors care if people are talking about how much time it takes them to reply to manuscripts. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm tehawesomersace: Yup. It’s okay not to like something. RT @Selestial: I just discuss what didnt work for me in general terms and why. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm EKokie: @MyraMcEntire The fan page/private page on FB seems to be the current trend. We’ll see how it works longterm. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm sallymurphy: @Scribblerati Ediotrs/agents DO check out prospective authors. maybe not every submission, but it does happen. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm gregpincus: @laurielyoung Well, could let others know they’re not alone waiting.Could hold people accountable, too, I suppose #kidlitchat
8:21 pm innaj: @KarenCollum Not unless someone reposts or a hacker gets in or someone has a fake ID you’ve come to trust … (re: lj) #kidlitchat
8:21 pm EllenHopkinsYA: But, when I feel it’s necessary, and I know others do this too, we attack things like censorship hard and heavy online. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm KarenCollum: @rj_anderson Agreed. Depends how it’s done. “Woe is me, the world is out to get me” is not cool. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm DDHearn: @YolaRamunno You should be very careful about finding critique partners on twitter…anyone can pretend to be a writer. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm debbieohi: @HeidiRKling I used Goodreads that way, too e.g. recommending books I -like-. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm Becky_Levine: @innaj I only have a few family/hs friends on FB.They may get bored w/ writing talk, but they don’t have to read it. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm elloecho: @PattyJMurphy I’m all for good karma! #kidlitchat
8:21 pm Gwenda: I would file *too personal* under Damon Knight’s def. of SF–what I’m pointing at when I say it. Inspires gossip? Think 2ce. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm KarenCollum: Online should be about celebrating other writer’s successes & cheering them on too. #kidlitchat
8:21 pm dlschubert: Sorry I’m late! Topic anyone? #kidlitchat
8:21 pm gregpincus: @Becky_Levine So information needs to be in the right place to give it context, perhaps? #kidlitchat
8:21 pm EllenHopkinsYA: There is a certain power in that, and wielding it when you must is, I think, a good thing. #kidlitchat
8:22 pm carolgrannick: Desire to vent about hurt we’ve experienced seems common & normal, but ability to contain it ultimately feels better. #kidlitchat
8:22 pm CynLeitichSmith: I try not to anything online that I wouldn’t at the speaker podium or at the biz chicken lunch/dinner after I sit down. #kidlitchat

•    bonnieadamson: @dlschubert TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
•    Shelltex: I think response time info is helpful but best posted only on members only writing forums so not in search engines. #kidlitchat
•    AudryT: When something important comes up, like censorship, attack the subject not the person. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: I think if you _only_ post positive things online, you become … untrustworthy. #kidlitchat
•    sallymurphy: and if they’re going to google me, I’d hope they find me saying positive things about them – or nothing at all. #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: @KarenCollum Or worse, “those philistines at Publisher X don’t appreciate my genius!” #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: this is agent specific- but I do not post all deals on Publisher’s Marketplace esp. for pbs that aren’t going to pub for yrs #kidlitchat
•    AnnetteFix: Good idea @sharifwrites. @YolaRamunno I’ve had meetup crit groups over the last five years. Currently in two. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: RT @EllenHopkinsYA: I’m proud of you for standing up to censorship! Reminding us not to take that sort of thing sitting down. #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: @LisaDez #kidlitchat Yes, we’re often sensitive like that!
•    saundramitchell: I appreciate it when people bash authors online. It makes it easier for me to know which people to cull from my friends lists! #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: @innaj True. I actually personally know 95% of people on the list in real life so that helps! (Local Aussie group) #kidlitchat
•    peg366: RT @KarenCollum: Online should be about celebrating other writers successes & cheering them on too. #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: @Leaheps I agree that it’s fun to see the personal as well as professional side of people. #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: RT @carolgrannick: Desire to vent about hurt weve experienced seems normal, but ability to contain it ultimately feels better. #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: sometimes I don’t want the world to know about the subject of a book years before it pubs #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: @EllenHopkinsYA Yes, confronting censorship is very different, and gives you a forum to state your position. #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: So anyone want to give me a definition of TMI on the personal side and then the professional? #kidlitchat
•    earth_mommy: Should you run 2 accounts on Twitter – one personal and one professional? Just to keep things seperate? #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @gregpincus Exactly. Otherwise, there’s the “Why” question for me. Plus, Twitter/FB go SO many places we don’t know. :) #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: BTW, I thought the recent TweetCloud trend was very enlightening about what I Tweet. More innocuous than I thought! #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: @EllenHopkinsYA I agree. When it’s done eloquently and with care, it can have such a huge impact. Definitely a positive thing. #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: @Shelltex I discovered a bunch of my very old posts on member only forums came up accessible when googled. Just FYI. #kidlitchat
•    Gwenda: I’ll admit to a weakness for uninformed snark, and it’s entirely prurient–not something I ever do myself online. #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: Yanno, there’s a difference between bashing an author and criticizing someone’s work. Former=bad, latter=good lesson. #kidlitchat
•    sallymurphy: I only name a publisher when they’ve contracted me. That way I don’t jinx it! #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: Someone on this chat once said, “removing info off the Internet is like removing pee from a swimming pool.” Stuck with me! :-) #kidlitchat
•    KatGirl_Studio: I agree, you shouldn’t vent online. If I’m angry or upset I vent to our cats not to the world. #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: @zerbinetta TweetCloud is a great snapshot of the tone of tweets. #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: I think people mistakenly think all deals posted. Not true. RT @RebeccAgent: I do not post all deals on Publisher’s Marketplace #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: Hee, yes! RT @saundramitchell: when people bash authors online it makes it easier to know who to cull from my friends lists! #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: @SaundraMitchell LOL–I am eerily entertained when people go bananas online, but it’s more in a OHNOSHEDIDNT kinda way. #kidlitchat
•    RickiSchultz: Don’t u think most people tend to ignore the whiners? I know I do…I assume they are unprofessional if they can’t self sensor #kidlitchat
•    laurielyoung: How so? online is not critique groupRT @innaj: I think if you _only_ post positive things online, you become … untrustworthy. #kidlitchat
•    lyonmartin: Most ppl forget anybody cn C anything even if it’s ‘friend’ protected. I try not 2 write anything I wouldn’t wnt family 2 c #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: @earth_mommy Multiple accounts is always an option, but I’m finding myself pulling back from so many platforms and accounts. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @saundramitchell OTOH, I think we need to come up with ways of talking about books critically–because we all learn from that, 2 #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: @innaj At least you have a choice as to who to friend of FB. Anyone can follow tweets, unless blocked. #kidlitchat
•    dlschubert: @bonnieadamson Wow! Great topic!! Thanks. #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: I don’t personally have issue with discussing my WIP but that’s a personal decision. People can try & steal if they like… #kidlitchat
•    AnnetteFix: RT @ktubb: Someone once said, “removing info off the Internet is like removing pee from a swimming pool.” Stuck with me! :-) #kidlitchat
•    jlmartin: The greatest problem I have with professional sharing is keeping my plot and characters secret. I love them so. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: YES!RT @EllenHopkinsYA: When I feel its necessary, and others do this too, we attack things like censorship hard & heavy online. #kidlitchat
•    saundramitchell: @elloecho If it involves snot or pus, it’s TMI. #kidlitchat
•    PattyJMurphy: @sallymurphy: Hey, Murph! I prefer to keep my client list to myself…and my web site. #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: @elloecho TMI: professional=queryfail. TMI: personal=bodily functions. #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: I think I have author accounts on 7 or 8 different platforms, but I’m scaling back to 3 primaries: FB, Twitter & Goodreads. #kidlitchat
•    RickiSchultz: …if they are badmouthing someone, I take what they’re saying much less seriously b/c I don’t really respect them as prof. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: ROFL! RT @saundramitchell: I appreciate when people bash authors online. Makes it easier to know who to cull from friends lists! #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @RebeccAgent Do you find it gets harder and harder to keep subject matter secret? I don’t tend to reveal that, but many do. #kidlitchat
•    sharifwrites: @AnnetteFix I prefer in-person than online, but for both I’ve found poor attendance. #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @elloecho Names of your kids, where you live, your OB appts, personal hygiene… #kidlitchat
•    aliciapadron: This is a slow bussiness and we all know it. We just have to play by their rules, so to speak. #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: They won’t write the way I write and don’t know the full story etc… I try to have a generous approach (wasn’t always that way) #kidlitchat
•    innaj: How do we talk about what does and doesn’t work in fiction without every “this didn’t work for me” being taken as bashing? #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @EllenHopkinsYA It’s the using your power for good, not evil, thing. :) #kidlitchat
•    jennymckmoss: @KayCassidy it does become confusing & time-consuming #kidlitchat
•    StephanieDBrown: RT saundramitchell @elloecho If it involves snot or pus, it’s TMI. #kidlitchat LOL! fUNNY! :)
•    Shelltex: @RebeccAgent I understand why agents don’t post all deals at PM but it sure does help to see what PBs selling. #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: @elloecho TMI? Going thru menopause and bleeding like I’m dying…. had a 3-way with my brother-in-law & his wife… #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: @elloecho Personal TMI: Public post abt. your drunken party last night. Professional TMI: List of editors who rejected your ms. #kidlitchat
•    Gwenda: @innaj I think if you’re going to gush about stuff, you should back it up–otherwise, then you become untrustworthy. (I hope.) #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @HeidiRKling ohshedidnt…and then we ALL STARE! :) #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: In professional sharing litmus test for me is- am I promoting my clients/their books or myself? If latter is answer don’t share #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @saundramitchell but boogers are funny! I’ll give you the pus one though… #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: @jlmartin I do the same thing. Was burned by sharing plot points online before. #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: Bummer about my last blog post then :-) RT @saundramitchell: @elloecho If it involves snot or pus, its TMI. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @Becky_Levine But FB and Twitter are no more public than Verla’s. In fact, you can make them both private. So it’s contextual. #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: @elloecho Personal & Professional TMI = anything you wouldn’t discuss at a conference luncheon table w/professional strangers. #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @EllenHopkinsYA ACK! I get it I get it! #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: Not that I PERSONALLY have ever had a 3-way with my B-in-law and his wife! #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: Oh, I’m very superstitious about discussing WIP publicly. Only very vague references. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @Gwenda Yes. (And when you’re going to not-gush, you need to talk about what did work, too.) #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: It alarms me to see how many Google pages are generated by a search for “Lia Keyes” – how can peeps find the good stuff? #kidlitchat
•    saundramitchell: @innaj I’m all for crit. Not so much for the “So and so is a (pejorative) who thinks she’s (X) blah blah blah.” #kidlitchat
•    AnnetteFix: @sharifwrites I’ve never done online critique groups. The meetup.com groups I’ve attended are in-person. #kidlitchat
•    saundramitchell: @catesfolly LOL, of course, now I have to go read it! #kidlitchat
•    aliciapadron: Some manuscripts get a faster response than others, that’s just the way it is. #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: @innaj Personally, I disagree. I tend to follow authors who are positive *because* they are positive. #kidlitchat
•    leewind: @ktubb LOL! Yeah, pee from a swimming pool stays – no matter how much chlorine (deleting) and sunshine (time) #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: @Becky_Levine LOL #kidlitchat
•    CynLeitichSmith: #kidlitchat I think you can be generally positive but sincere, substantive & yourself. Just takes a little thought.
•    Becky_Levine: @innaj By saying it just as you did, and as you do. If people take a moment, they can post nonjudgmentally. (If that’s a word!) #kidlitchat
•    Gwenda: @innaj There’s part of me that only feels comfortable doing that for extremely established authors; save others for offline. #kidlitchat
•    Shelltex: @catesfolly That’s interesting. I never post anything bad but I didn’t think they showed up in Google. #kidlitchat
•    jlmartin: Have to agree…RT @BonnieAdamson: Oh, I’m very superstitious about discussing WIP publicly. Only very vague references. #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: @shelltex I think my page on Publisher’s Marketplace shows a good overview of the pbs I sell #kidlitchat
•    camoulton: PM is definitely a great tool to learn which editors acquired and edit what. I wish all deals were posted there. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @gregpincus I think it’s what you said–Verla’s gives it a context. #kidlitchat
•    dlschubert: I blend personal and professional on my blog. Personal as in where I go on vacation and pics, professional as in “the journey.” #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: Ooo – plot points – good question! Would anyone share the details of a WIP online? #kidlitchat
•    MyraMcEntire: @KayCassidy I’ve pulled way back from FB – mostly bc I loathe reading about all the spare time peeps have to play Mafia Wars! #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @rj_anderson I totally agree with you on the editors part. but hey I’m curious about the drunken party… ;o) #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: @paulgreci Yes, owning it is key. #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: RT @CynLeitichSmith: I think you can be generally positive but sincere, substantive & yourself. Just takes a little thought. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @KayCassidy I think you can be critical without being negative, though. Still pondering how, myself. #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: Question for me re: critiquing fellow writers online is: to what aim? Isn’t this a conversation better had in person w/friends? #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: RT @CynLeitichSmith: I think you can be generally positive but sincere, substantive & yourself. Just takes a little thought. #kidlitchat
•    carolgrannick: I’m comfortable using personal starting point for a blog post, similar to personal essays. #kidlitchat
•    StephanieDBrown: @RebeccaAgent Yes, latter is def. not good. That’s a great rule to go by. #kidlitchat
•    wanart: @KayCassidy i agree with you – i tend to follow the positive folks more than the ones who rant or vent all the time #kidlitchat
•    RickiSchultz: @innaj I think there is a way to handle it where it’s constructive and a way to handle it where it’s bashing #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: @CynLeitichSmith I completely agree. #kidlitchat
•    adamselzer: In one of my books, I told kids there was no such thing as a “permanent record.” But there is. It’s facebook, myspace, etc. #kidlitchat
•    KatGirl_Studio: @bonnieadamson Ya all i say about mine is that I’m working on them and an acronym for the title. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @paulgreci Or you can pass on the info, with a link, and let others make their judgments on censorship, etc. #kidlitchat
•    AnnetteFix: @Shelltex I think most authors have Google Alerts set up for their name and book title. I do. #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @catesfolly lucky no one has condemned farts. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @Gwenda I think that’s why people enjoy bashing Twilight, in part (even aside from actual book issues). It’s “safe,” in a way. #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: RT @EKokie: @elloecho …and anything you wouldn’t publish under your own name in a magazine/newspaper. #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: Personally don’t like teasers from authors: “Check out the email I just got!” and you find out it’s a standard rejection! #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: Tweetchat seems to only be updating sporadically for me so I’m missing big chunks of the chat. Will check archives later, tho. #kidlitchat
•    RickiSchultz: @CynLeitichSmith RT You can be positive but sincere, substantive & yourself. Just takes a little thought. <<Agreed.>> #kidlitchat
•    LisaDez: @ktubb No. May agent doesn’t even see it until it’s revised and edited. #kidlitchat
•    jennymckmoss: RT @CynLeitichSmith: I think you can be generally positive but sincere, substantive & yourself. Just takes a little thought. #kidlitchat
•    laurielyoung: Yes RT @CynLeitichSmith: I think you can be generally positive but sincere, substantive & yourself. Just takes a little thought. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @RickiSchultz But I do know a lot of people who believe writers, at least, should never post neg. or even mixed reviews. #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: @bonnieadamson I agree with you about sharing WIP details too early. It can sap the creative energy. #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: Also we need to remember it’s easy to spit out 140 ch and unintentionally say something not quite right = misunderstandings… #kidlitchat
•    Gwenda: @innaj I believe so too, but I think realistically, you still risk the grudge-holders. Negative is in the eye of the beholder. #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: @Shelltex Nor did I, but had to get posts removed — about personal health stuff, nothing weird but never intended to be public #kidlitchat
•    onbeyondwords: I rely on my journalism training when writing my blog – but as for writing negative reviews – it depends on your online goal. #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: @gregpincus I make it a point to announce deals when it suits the project (to sell other rts) and at the rt time #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: @innaj Very true. It’s a fine line though, and all too easy to step into snark or rant mode. #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @elloecho Especially based on your Tweetcloud! #kidlitchat
•    Shelltex: @AnnetteFix I have Google alerts set for me and the kids but none of my posts on members forums have shoed up. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @catesfolly I’ve just started doing a few online crits. With people I “know” online. It’s actually going well. #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @EKokie Hmmmm, but see I’m way more funny on my blog than with strangers… #kidlitchat
•    StephanieDBrown: I think something personal (such as overcoming cancer or substance abuse) is good to share if it inspires your readers/audience. #kidlitchat
•    YolaRamunno: @AnnetteFix The online group worked well for us. We lived too far from each other to meet up. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @AnnetteFix @Shelltex Everyone should have Google alerts for their name and book titles, just to monitor reputation #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @innaj But I’m still not comfortable with “bashing” Twilight author, just ‘cause she’s made it. #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: @innaj Yeah. Did you see flashback over Shiver? Yet it was the same things people said about Twilight. Why diff reactions? #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @Gwenda Like I said, still pondering how and when and whether to do it. Am tired of the idea one never can that’s out there, tho #kidlitchat
•    camoulton: Posting online somewhere about all the rejections you receive is not a good idea. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: Good idea to consider your online goal before posting ANYTHING, and to be aware of the image you want for yourself. #kidlitchat
•    jemifraser: I’m late for #kidlitchat!!! I’ll catch up :)
•    EKokie: @elloecho It’s not the funny, it’s the substance. At least for me. Would I put this anecdote in writing/tell it. #kidlitchat
•    leewind: RT @CynLeitichSmith: #kidlitchat I think you can be generally positive but sincere, substantive & yourself. <–YES!
•    andreacremer: Evening, all! #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: Most important thing for me: once I put it out there, will I ever regret it? Try to resist reactions and thoughtless remarks. #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: If authors too shy of saying anything that might be controversial = results in dull blogs & tweets. I enjoy well-argued opinion. #kidlitchat
•    dlschubert: I keep WIP plot lines & characters to mostly to myself, tho I might give hints here and there. Also, I unfollow “whiners.” #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: RT @Scribblerati: Good idea to consider online goal b4 posting ANYTHING, and to be aware of the image you want for yourself. #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: @Becky_Levine I think it’s important to separate the work from the writer. #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: @bookgoil Then again, feel free to ignore me. I’m not a fan of daily word count being the end all goal of successful writings. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @Becky_Levine I don’t think it’s because she “made” it. I think it’s because she’s so widely read she might not notice. :-) #kidlitchat
•    onbeyondwords: RT @laurielyoung @CynLeitichSmith You can be generally positive but sincere, substantive & yourself. Just takes a little thought #kidlitchat
•    AnnetteFix: @gregpincus I like going to the blog that mentioned my book, reviewed it or whatever. I leave a nice comment for the blogger. #kidlitchat
•    carolgrannick: RT @Scribblerati: Good idea to consider online goal before posting ANYTHING, be aware of the image you want for yourself. #kidlitchat
•    write_HB: I want to hear about the drunken party, too…but I do sometimes think as kidlit writers we need to be more, idk…perfect?? #kidlitchat
•    YolaRamunno: @catesfolly Yes, if you have writer friends close by. Unfortunately for me I don’t. I am looking though.:) #kidlitchat
•    aliciapadron: I’m very careful not to share any details on WIP. Eventhough I would love to sometimes. #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @gregpincus it’s hard to use google alerts when your last name is an interjection like Oh… #kidlitchat
•    ChristineTB: @jemifraser (me too – you’re not alone!) :-) #kidlitchat
•    RickiSchultz: @innaj I can see that, but I suppose it depends on the stage in the writer’s career, what is rvwd, and how it’s being handled #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: RT @camoulton: Posting online somewhere about all the rejections you receive is not a good idea. #kidlitchat TRUTH!
•    DDHearn: @innaj Nothing any of us might say is going to take one cent away from the phenomenal Twilight sales. #kidlitchat
•    johnlechner: Re: online criticism – I don’t think you should say anything you wouldn’t say to the author in person (unless you’re a critic) #kidlitchat
•    Gwenda: @innaj Agreed–and as someone who occasionally reviews professionally, I can’t hold back there. On the blog, I’m more careful. #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: @tehawesomersace It sometimes seems that the more popular an author gets, the more someone wants to bring them down. :-( #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @gregpincus And then when writers see google alerts, they should keep their reactions entirely to themselves. :-) #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: Yes! RT @CynLeitichSmith: I think you can be generally positive but sincere, substantive & yourself. Just takes a little thought #kidlitchat
•    innaj: As a writer, _never_ respond to a negative review. #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: I love Google Alerts! How else would I know how spectacular Kristen Tubbs, the female field hockey player, is? :-) (True) #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @innaj I think if I ever got that big, I’d still notice. And I think it would hurt. #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @HeidiRKling what’s a word counter? #kidlitchat
•    Shelltex: @RebeccAgent I do like reading the profile pages, too. PB writers just like to see the deals to keep the faith, I think. #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: Q: How many of you have other careers that have an online presence/following? Do the effect your writing persona? #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @DDHearn I don’t think most negative reviews take away from sales. They encourage dialogue, which encourages sales. #kidlitchat
•    earth_mommy: RT @gregpincus @AnnetteFix @Shelltex Everyone should have Google alerts for their name & book titles, just to monitor reputation #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: Who are all these kidlit authors having drunken parties? Or is it just the rest of us sedate folk who like to hear abt them? :D #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: @debbieohi Exactly why I won’t ever allow myself popularity. :) #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: @sarahshum Totally agree. #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: AMEN. RT @innaj: As a writer, _never_ respond to a negative review. #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: @sallymurphy I’m trying to grab as much of the conversation as I can. :-) I also keep Tweetdeck open to check for replies. #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: there are facts and there are assumptions. Posting assumptions about editors or agents online can really hurt your career #kidlitchat
•    PattyJMurphy: RT @DDHearn @bonnieadamson I agree w/you re: sharing WIP details 2 early.. <–Ideas are fragile/can fall into the wrong hands… #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @EKokie I’d totally agree with that! #kidlitchat
•    leewind: To argue the flip side, there is empowerment in sharing personal tough stuff that you survived (emotional crux of much YA) #kidlitchat
•    camoulton: I love getting to know other writers and their personalities, so I try to be myself but also watch what I say. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: @DDHearn As I said before, bashing others only makes YOU look bad. Be generous. If authors are popular, it’s for a reason. #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: RT @StephanieDBrown: I think something personal (is good to share if it inspires your readers/audience. #kidlitchat YES, KEY WORD : AUDIENCE
•    debbieohi: @thaliachaltas LOL! :-D #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: @innaj what’s this mean? (am unfamiliar w/google alerts) #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: Also re: Google Alerts: if you see a blog post (positive) about your book, do you comment a “thanks?” Always felt weird to me… #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: @debbieohi I know. That’s why I’m gonna pick on unpopular authors, too. Yanno, in case they make it big. ;) #kidlitchat
•    LisaDez: @HeidiRKling I’m right there with you. I write when my characters have something to say. Then it’s not just words on a page. #kidlitchat
•    amyknichols: @debbieohi It does seem that way. I think it’s ugly. #kidlitchat
•    Gwenda: I think overly crafted persona = deadly blog presence, for the most part. I connect w/ voice as a reader, in fiction and online. #kidlitchat
•    sallymurphy: @ktubb Oh – I love Google Alerts too, though am a little disconcerted at sharing my name with a porn author. #kidlitchat
•    PattyJMurphy: @Becky_Levine: You mean WHEN…right? You gotta think BIG:) #kidlitchat
•    MyraMcEntire: @robinobryant If people have that much extra time to do “chores” on their “farm” – they can head my way. I’ll put ‘em to work! #kidlitchat
•    ChristineTB: Not sure that is true. Some authors make it big and then get full of themselves. SM made comments that opened her up to crits. #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: @rj_anderson LOL! Now a cupcake party… ;-) #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: @gregpincus I’ve never even heard of Google Alerts before. How do you set it up? #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @rj_anderson No comment. :) #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: @tehawesomersace Oh, good plan. :-D #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: If authors are popular, its for a reason. You don’t have to like the reasons, though! #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @catesfolly google alerts let you know when new google hits on your name (or any other search term you choose) come up. #kidlitchat
•    EgmontUSA: #kidlitchat I maintain 2 separate Twitter accounts, and if it doesn’t have to do w/ Egmont or publishing, then I’m not tweeting it here.
•    camoulton: @zerbinetta I’m also a photographer and am required to get pretty comfortable and personable with clients so they hire me again. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @innaj I think a negative review can be helpful to readers & writers (not nec THE author!), if thoughtful and balanced. #kidlitchat
•    dlschubert: RT @RebeccAgent there are facts & assumptions. Posting assumptions about editors or agents online can really hurt your career #kidlitchat
•    RindaElliott: @camoulton I totally agree with this–don’t know what the chat is, but posting rejections is not the best idea. #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: @ktubb Thanks to blogger in e-mail = cool & sometimes appreciated; thanks to blogger in comments = can stifle reader discussion. #kidlitchat
•    jemifraser: I’m in the same boat! RT @DDHearn: @gregpincus I’ve never even heard of Google Alerts before. How do you set it up? #kidlitchat
•    StephanieDBrown: @leewind I totally agree. If a personal experience can be a source of inspiration for readers/audience, then it’s good 2 share. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: RT @Gwenda I think overly crafted persona = deadly blog presence… I connect w/ voice as a reader, in fiction and online. #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: @amyknichols It drives me nuts sometimes (the tearing down of authors who get “too successful”). #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: @PattyJMurphy Main objection to sharing WIP is that I’m constantly revising, trethinking. Talking about it sets it in stone. #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: @ktubb I asked a bunch of book bloggers about that b/c I felt weird too. Every single one said they would be flattered. #kidlitchat
•    ChristineTB: Google alerts has been very touch and go. Get interesting blog hits, but sometimes also get virus sites. Look before clicking. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @elloecho if you use booleans (!!!) or quotation marks, you can probably still get the alerts to work #kidlitchat
•    onbeyondwords: @paulgreci That’s definitely what I try to do – infuse my blog and tweets with fun but offer something of value overall #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: Good point! Readers want to CONNECT. RT @Gwenda: I think overly crafted persona = deadly blog presence, for the most part. #kidlitchat
•    saundramitchell: @innaj @catesfolly And you can use Icerocket to blog search- it often finds stuff on Livejournal and Blogger that Google missed. #kidlitchat
•    camoulton: @Zerbinetta The same goes for authors. If you’re friendly/communicative with readers, then they will keep reading your books. #kidlitchat
•    AnnetteFix: @innaj Luckily I haven’t come across those. But I know I’m an acquired taste, so I don’t expect them all to be positive. #kidlitchat
•    amyknichols: Yes> RT @camoulton I love getting to know other writers and their personalities, so I try to be myself but also watch what I say #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @ktubb I stay out unless the reviewer invites me in. I think different folks handle different ways. #kidlitchat
•    kellybarnhill: #kidlitchat I disagree re:Google alerts. Reputations don’t need to be monitored, and it’s a time sink to even try.
•    tehawesomersace: Ha! That’s what I say! RT @Scribblerati: If authors are popular, its for a reason. You dont have to like the reasons, though! #kidlitchat
•    susan_marie: I wonder about parallels between web presence and presence as teacher, speaker, conferencer, print reviewer, author–all public. #kidlitchat
•    EgmontGal: @Becky_Levine I’ve had reviews point out things I asked the author to change (or asked twice) that is a bit gratifying #kidlitchat
•    rachelarrr: @ChristineTB But was she criticized more *because* she’s gotten big? For something another author wouldn’t be? #kidlitchat
•    lyonmartin: I want my blog to be entertaining and informative. Not negative or whining. But sometimes bad stuff happens in life. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @innaj For myself, after reviewing professionally for sev years, I was tired of doing negative. #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: You can set up Google Alerts to EXCLUDE terms and words you don’t want. I share my name w/ a sports blogger, filter him out. #kidlitchat
•    wanart: RT @earth_mommy @gregpincus @AnnetteFix @Shelltex yes, i’ve been able to find rave reviews about my book with google alerts #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: The key for me is paying respect. Or arguing my point respectfully, even in the face of criticism/ill treatment/banning. #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: @LisaDez I agree totally. #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: Great Q! RT @zerbinetta How many of you have other careers that have an online presence/following? Effect your writing persona? #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @DDHearn @jemifraser Ahhh. I’ll put up a blog post at The Happy Accident this week on Google Alert basics, then. #kidlitchat
•    yabookwriter: debbieohi: @amyknichols It drives me nuts sometimes (the tearing down of authors who get “too successful”). #kidlitchat – I agree!
•    Becky_Levine: @innaj I review to recommend, but try to give details and relevant thoughts for writers at my blog. #kidlitchat
•    amyknichols: @debbieohi Makes me want to aim for a steady mid-list position. :-/ #kidlitchat
•    andreacremer: Me too! RT @debbieohi @amyknichols It drives me nuts sometimes (the tearing down of authors who get “too successful”). #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @ktubb My fear is that responding to even positive reviews gives feeling the writer is breathing over shoulder & stifles convo #kidlitchat
•    EgmontUSA: #kidlitchat I always attempt to re-read and think before I tweet. If I have doubts, I probably delete.
•    Melwyk: RT @rj_anderson: AMEN. RT @innaj: As a writer, _never_ respond to a negative review. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @PattyJMurphy When, WHEN! :) #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: RT @thaliachaltas: The key for me is paying respect. Or arguing my point respectfully, even in the face of criticism etc. #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: @SaundraMitchell @innaj Wow, helpful. Thanks. #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: I had Google Alerts for awhile, but found I didn’t like to check–seemed too obsessive. What will be will be. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @catesfolly Nope. Just email them back & forth. #kidlitchat
•    ChristineTB: Nice to know. I share my name with the actress who played “Marsha” in the Brady Bunch spoofs. I get her hits too. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @AnnetteFix I’ve learned the price of having your book read at all is some ppl won’t like it. Tastes differ. #kidlitchat
•    laurielyoung: @gregpincus Thanks! #kidlitchat
•    rachelarrr: @debbieohi I agree. #kidlitchat
•    EKokie: So true! RT @RebeccAgent there are facts & there are assumptions. Posting assumptions about editors/agents can hurt your career #kidlitchat
•    MyraMcEntire: @ktubb @KayCassidy Taking the time to personally respond to/tweet a review MAKES A DIFFERENCE. A positive one. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: RT @leewind: To argue flip side, there’s empowerment in sharing personal tough stuff you survived (emotional crux of much YA) #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: Ha! RT @EgmontGal: @Becky_Levine Ive had reviews point out things I asked the author to change. that is a bit gratifying #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: RT @rj_anderson: AMEN. RT @innaj: As a writer, _never_ respond to a negative review. #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: RT @innaj: @AnnetteFix Ive learned the price of having your book read at all is some ppl wont like it. Tastes differ. #kidlitchat
•    leewind: the merging of all your worlds is one of the phenoms of facebook/internet – you have to be same person/persona to ALL. #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: @Zerbinetta YEP!!!!!!! There’s a reason the number 1 search term to my blog is Queen of farts #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @EgmontGal Wow. That’s a point for early reviewers. :) #kidlitchat
•    andreacremer: So true! RT @innaj @AnnetteFix I’ve learned the price of having your book read at all is some ppl won’t like it. Tastes differ. #kidlitchat
•    tehawesomersace: Yep. RT @innaj: Ive learned the price of having your book read at all is some ppl wont like it. Tastes differ. #kidlitchat
•    EgmontGal: @Becky_Levine But I like it when reviewers dare to be negative sometimes. It’s interesting to see the case against a book #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: @bonnieadamson Me too, Bonnie. I just need to write what I write and work craft & do workshops and school visits the best I can. #kidlitchat
•    jennymckmoss: Been a bit LJ-lost this yr – trying to balance professional/personal – used 2 blog solely to connect w/ other writers – #kidlitchat
•    LisaDez: @andreacremer I promise not to say anything bad about you when Nightshade hits the NYT bestseller list. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: I share my name with an X-Files character, so for awhile I had to exclude that. Though it was fun briefly! #kidlitchat
•    johnlechner: @ktubb If someone blogs something nice about my book, I might send them a personal email, rather than post a comment #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: @Scribblerati Absolutely. Thumper had the right idea. #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: @gregpincus Thanks Greg, that’d be great! (about google alert basics, etc). Though I dread one more thing to keep track of… #kidlitchat
•    KarenCollum: @sallymurphy LOL I had no idea you were THAT kind of famous, Sally :P #kidlitchat
•    aliciapadron: I think all we have to do is use a little common sense you know? #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: @EgmontUSA Me too. I delete probably twice as many as I post. Like to share/react/holler by typing, pause before I hit post. #kidlitchat
•    kellybarnhill: @bonnieadamson I’m with you, Bonnie. #kidlitchat
•    StephanieDBrown: @leewind Yes, that’s why I’ve got them linked up for consistency. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: Watch for this. RT @gregpincus: Ill put up a blog post at The Happy Accident this week on Google Alert basics, then. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @bonnieadamson Alerts aren’t about ego or changing others. It’s about knowledge and finding opportunities! #kidlitchat
•    AnnetteFix: @ktubb I don’t post just “thanks”–I usually read & comment on a different post. And they recip by coming to my blog to do same #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @bonnieadamson Google Alerts told me when some whackadoo added some inappropriate info about me to Wiki and imdb. Golden. #kidlitchat
•    ktubb: This is great feedback on blog reviews and commenting – thanks, all! #kidlitchat
•    andreacremer: @LisaDez You’re too sweet! #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @elloecho I love you. #kidlitchat
•    onbeyondwords: @CynLeitichSmith Yes – glad of my journalism background – an asset in an era of crumbling newspapers and overcrowded blogosphere #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: A good reason to take editorial advice seriously! RT @EgmontGal: I’ve had reviews point out things I asked the author to change. #kidlitchat
•    sarahshum: okay, #kidlitchat crew. I must away. Avoid the overshare! And be nice!
•    PattyJMurphy: @debbieohi: I think Bette Davis said, “If everyone likes you, you must be boring!” Think that’s true with authors, books, too:) #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @EgmontGal I agree. I like reviewers who do that. Just when I try to do it, my stomach hurts. :) #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: @MyraMcEntire I have hidden all the games on Facebook (except Hatchlings, which is my one stupid addiction). #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: @EgmontGal @Becky_Levine Ditto that. I had a reviewer mention something that wasn’t clear, so I tweaked that sentence in CEs. #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: @gregpincus Fox Mulder, is that you? #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: @leewind I’m certainly finding that in FB. I’m part of many very different communities but have only one FB persona. #kidlitchat
•    amyknichols: @sarahshum I do that with blog posts. I rant and whine (in a txt file) and then throw it away. Good therapy. #kidlitchat
•    camoulton: I love negative reviews on Amazon. I learn the most about storytelling/characterization when people post what they hated. #kidlitchat
•    StephanieDBrown: So if you find that someone has commented nicely about your book, is it still uncool to say “thanks” to the blogger/reviewer? #kidlitchat
•    carolgrannick: @gregpincus Yes, alerts (as I learned from you!) help me locate blogs in my area of blogging – i.e., emotional life of writers. #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: RT @PattyJMurphy: Bette Davis said, “If everyone likes you, you must be boring!” Think thats true with authors, books, too:) #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: @EgmontGal I love negative book reviews (James Wood in New Yorker). But seems like neg reviews from fellow authors a diff thing? #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: @gregpincus Yes, but I saw myself getting anxious about it–was anyone reviewing my book? etc. Not good. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @rj_anderson No. No. I was only the bug man. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @EgmontGal I reviewed for HB guide for a few years. Got some great books, some not so great. Needed a break on the negative. #kidlitchat
•    EgmontGal: I have read respectful, differing p.o.v.s on blog comment sections–right, Christine? But why people get personal is beyond me. #kidlitchat
•    onbeyondwords: @paulgreci Exactly -it takes some effort to refine that voice but I think it’s key. #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: RT @EgmontGal:But I like it when reviewers dare to be negative sometimes. Its interesting to see the case against a book. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: I prefer not to link updates from various accounts. Repetition is not attractive. Only do it from FB fan page to twitter #kidlitchat
•    aliciapadron: Don’t say anything online that you wouldn’t say for real. #kidlitchat
•    sarahockler: Hi all! I’m super late. What’s the topic tonight? #kidlitchat
•    HeidiRKling: I am really interactive on my blog. I always respond to comments so it’s more like a chat–I love that aspect of posting! #kidlitchat
•    DorothyHearst: Big difference btwn thoughtful criticism, which I value (most of time :-) ) and snarking, which is bratty. #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @KayCassidy Cool. #kidlitchat I bet the author was happy!
•    camoulton: @sarahshum Same here. I occasionally delete Tweets after I post them, read, and think, “maybe I shouldn’t have said that…” #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: @leewind But I don’t share exactly the same things on FB as I do on Twitter. Different audience, though some overlapping. #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: @gregpincus “War of the Coprophages”! Great episode. :D <— GEEK #kidlitchat
•    ChristineTB: @EgmontGal Agreed. I think some people hide behind the anonymity. I call them cowards. #kidlitchat
•    EgmontGal: @catesfolly Interesting. I enjoy a thoughtful negative review but never say neg things in cyberspace about another pub’s books. #kidlitchat
•    andreacremer: @HeidiRKling She told me! Crazy small world, she and I are from a town of 8,000 people. What are the odds! #kidlitchat
•    thaliachaltas: Oh dear, tweetchat is snoozing… #kidlitchat
•    elloecho: Is it only me or is anyone else getting motion sickness from the tweetchat updating? #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: RT @camoulton:(plus side of neg reviews) I learn the most about storytelling/characterization when people post what they hated. #kidlitchat
•    AnnetteFix: @catesfolly Not really anything u have to keep track of. The Google Alert goes to your inbox. You can select frequency of notice #kidlitchat
•    LaFabuliste: Kidlit!! What are we talking about? So You Think You Can Dance? Astrophysics? #kidlitchat
•    katrinagermein: Planning a blog to go with new website next year. Bit scared now! I tend to be at my most honest when I write. #kidlitchat
•    ChristineTB: @debbieohi some people say things on the internet that they wouldn’t say in person. So hurting people online becomes a pathology #kidlitchat
•    Gwenda: I only trust negative reviews if the reviewer is credible. Otherwise, I am either amused/infuriated by them. Same for positive. #kidlitchat
•    EgmontGal: Unless the book is SO huge that I couldn’t possibly hurt it, i.e. “I’m not sure about ending of catching fire” #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: Wow… take a ten minute break to go put my famous sweet potato fries into the oven, see what I miss! #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: I admit, I love smart, critical book reviews — and even some snark. But as an author, it’s not my place to be that reviewer. #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: Anonymity: I posted one snarky comment, early on, anonymously, and was heartily ashamed. Since then, real me, or no comment. #kidlitchat
•    dlschubert: Me 2! @HeidiRKling I’m interactive on my blog, always respond 2 comments so it’s more like a chat-I love that aspect of posting! #kidlitchat
•    innaj: In a way, I rely on readers to be willing to be negative, because it’s harder to do negative reviews as a writer. #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: @EgmontGal I think prof book reviewers a different category of person. Editors, agents, and writers too in the fray ourselves? #kidlitchat
•    jeanie_w: I wonder if some people share too much online because they don’t spend enuf time w face-to-face friends. #kidlitchat
•    jemifraser: RT @aliciapadron: Don’t say anything online that you wouldn’t say for real. #kidlitchat – so TRUE :)
•    andreacremer: @HeidiRKling I think that’s a great point about blogging. The social connection to commenters is so much fun! #kidlitchat
•    leewind: #kidlitchat re: negative reviews, B. Brantley NYTimes Theater reviewer – snarky, funny, mean – but he’s not acting, too.
•    EllenHopkinsYA: Now you have TMI… ya’ll know I can cook, the invitations will never end! #kidlitchat
•    Gwenda: Explaining why you liked/loved/what worked is actually harder to do, I think. Appreciate when someone can articulate that well. #kidlitchat
•    amyknichols: @elloecho I always get a little woozy from it, too. #kidlitchat
•    gregpincus: @EgmontGal I think that’s a key point. It’s fine to disagree, but it doesn’t have to get personal. That’s a line not to cross #kidlitchat
•    saundramitchell: @sarahockler Your online image and participation. It’s totally Topic du Ockler Wheelhouse! #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: @EgmontGal Shhh! One more week and I get to read it! :-) #kidlitchat
•    rj_anderson: For those who came late — TOPIC: How much sharing of info online is too much? #kidlitchat
•    yachicka: Late to kidlit chat #kidlitchat
•    KatGirl_Studio: @aliciapadron didn’t they have a commercial about that earlier this year. About cyber-bullying? #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: @EllenHopkinsYA (whimper) I want some of your famous sweet potato fries. #kidlitchat
•    StephanieDBrown: @EgmontGal Good point. With bestsellers like that, it has less impact. #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: I prefer author interviews to reviews – more insight into why decisions were made. #kidlitchat
•    johnlechner: @bonnieadamson I also get anxious about Google alerts, as in “why isn’t anyone mentioning me on the internet!” :) #kidlitchat
•    catesfolly: @AnnetteFix But then there’s the fantasy about me, my yellow pad, my pencil. And no more ‘puter. Just a fantasy… #kidlitchat
•    AudryT: If you always use your real name in chat, comments, blogs, etc., you’ll weigh your words more carefully! #kidlitchat
•    Becky_Levine: @innaj I think sometimes writers see/look for things other readers/reviewers won’t notice! :) #kidlitchat
•    Gwenda: @ChristineTB OMG, I hate those people. Code: Only say/do things online you would also do in person. #kidlitchat
•    aliciapadron: reviews are just opinions.. in my opinion. ;o) #kidlitchat
•    innaj: @Gwenda Yes. Even positive reviews need to be more than mere gushing, mostly. #kidlitchat
•    debbieohi: RT @gregpincus: @EgmontGal I think that’s a key point. It’s fine to disagree, but it doesn’t have to get personal. #kidlitchat
•    EgmontGal: On the horn book blog today (under comments in the New Moon post) someone hawked their book! The subsequent comments were FUNNY #kidlitchat
•    zoe_walton: @innaj Too hard to give negative reviews as an editor too. #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: @sarahockler Some of the conversation is about what is appropriate to post and what isn’t (such as negative reviews or whining). #kidlitchat
•    carolgrannick: Same here! RT @dlschubert: Me 2! @HeidiRKling Im interactive on my blog, always respond 2 comments… #kidlitchat
•    Scribblerati: @yachicka TOPIC: We love to share information online. Is it possible to share too much professionally? Personally? #kidlitchat
•    RebeccAgent: Can’t help but think some who speculate and gripe would be better off spending the time writing and crafting #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: @sarahshum @EgmontGal I also often write something, rethink, delete, revise, etc. Hey… sounds like writing… #kidlitchat
•    ChristineTB: @johnlechner Say the word and we’ll talk about ya on the internet for Google to find :-) ! #kidlitchat
•    andreacremer: There are sweet potato fries? Where? RT @debbieohi @EllenHopkinsYA (whimper) I want some of your famous sweet potato fries. #kidlitchat
•    bonnieadamson: @johnlechner Yes! lol. I’m great at manufacturing new worries. :-) #kidlitchat
•    onbeyondwords: @DDHearn I agree about defining different personas for FB and Twitter – our presence on each social network has different goals #kidlitchat
•    zerbinetta: @jeanie_w Actually, I think its more the opposite. Chatty people are chatty people! #kidlitchat
•    MyraMcEntire: @HeidiRKling I think that’s the best way to get and keep followers – and make friends. I email regularly w/ a few followers now. #kidlitchat
•    carlrigney: So true! RT @innaj As a writer, _never_ respond to a negative review. #kidlitchat
•    sarahockler: Wrong to share too much, also too share the wrong kind of stuff, or not enough right stuff. Deep, I know. ;-p #kidlitchat
•    laurielyoung: Ha Ha! RT @aliciapadron: reviews are just opinions.. in my opinion. ;o) #kidlitchat
•    KayCassidy: @andreacremer @HeidiRKling I’m most interactive on Twitter b/c it’s fast & I know they’ll see it. #kidlitchat
•    DDHearn: @EgmontGal I think discussing books is fine, even areas we didn’t like, as long as it is done respectfully. #kidlitchat
•    LisaDez: I have a dift name for them. RT HeidiRKling: @ChristineTB I screen anon comments just in case a whackadoodle comes to blog town. #kidlitchat
•    andreacremer: I agree RT @Scribblerati I prefer author interviews to reviews – more insight into why decisions were made. #kidlitchat
•    innaj: The idea that neg reviews harm keeps coming up here-but do they actually harm sales? That’s not clear to me. #kidlitchat
•    EllenHopkinsYA: @EgmontGal That was very funny, Elizabeth. Thanks for sharing. #kidlitchat
•    EgmontGal: @AudryT I always use my name when I post,am VERY careful since nothing should reflect neg on Egmont. But some cannot use names. #kidlitchat
•    StephanieDBrown: @Scribblerati Yes–I love author interviews. That insight is useful and professional. #kidlitchat
•    dlschubert: I agree – be real or keep it to urself. RT @bonnieadamson RE: Anonymity: I posted snarky comment early on & was heartily ashamed.#kidlitchat

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