Kidlitchat Transcript – August 25th (part 2)
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8:46 pm gregpincus: It’s a wrap for me, y’all. I can’t wait to read the transcript! #kidlitchat
8:46 pm f_rancesca: @mgbuehrlen Not allowed! Come back! Come back! More coffee for that woman! #kidlitchat
8:46 pm EgmontGal: @susanwrites The pro track at SCBWI was my favorite thing I ever taught. I would love love more sessions for pros! #kidlitchat
8:46 pm KayCassidy: @susanwrites @EgmontGal It’s just a different beast than most people are used to. Learning that while you learn the craft helps. #kidlitchat
8:46 pm MyraMcEntire: @debbieohi #kidlitchat, of course! #kidlitchat
8:46 pm dulemba: @MyraMcEntire #kidlitchat – Yup Big Book Festival over labor day weekend! http://www.decaturbookfestival.com/2009/index.php
8:46 pm susanwrites: @mitaliperkins @CREvers: Best questions a writer can ask during a conference critique? How about where did you stop reading? #kidlitchat
8:46 pm SarahDarerLitt: RT @EgmontGal: I’ve attended many excellent SCBWI conferences, and imo 80% of authors really, really need to work on writing #kidlitchat
8:46 pm bonnieadamson: RT @EgmontGal: To all: I have attended many SCBWI conferences, and imo 80% of authors really, really need to work on writing #kidlitchat
8:46 pm elanaroth: @katie_bowden I agree. Conferences should have more tracks for varying levels. #kidlitchat
8:46 pm DDHearn: I have an agent question, if that’s ok. Typically, how many publishers do you send manuscript to before giving up on it? #kidlitchat
8:46 pm Becky_Levine: RT @EgmontGal: @susanwrites The pro track at SCBWI was my favorite thing I ever taught. I would love more sessions for pros! #kidlitchat
8:46 pm maggiedana: Um, me? RT @debbieohi: @jimhill OH! Brilliant! Youre right…TweetOlympics would make a GREAT cartoon!! But who do I credit? #kidlitchat
8:46 pm EgmontGal: @f_rancesca Emotion leaks into our side, too It’s so easy to get one’s feelings hurt on either side of the desk #kidlitchat
8:46 pm KayCassidy: @EgmontGal Oh! Meant to tell you I heard RAVES about your session there. So sad I missed it. #kidlitchat
8:46 pm literaticat: I wish that some conference would tell writers: a) How to handsell a book b) How to deal with bookstores/events/publicists #kidlitchat
8:47 pm KatGirl_Studio: @gregpincus where do you post them? #kidlitchat
8:47 pm davidhburton: @BonnieAdamson 60/year I think. I was on there years ago. As was melissa marr and sarah prineas. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm bonnieadamson: @gregpincus Thanks for making the effort Greg–we missed you! #kidlitchat
8:47 pm mitaliperkins: SCBWI Southern New England offers @jlbellwriter’s “Choices in Narrative Voices” in R.I. 9/12 ENCORE 2009 http://bit.ly/s3XVT #kidlitchat
8:47 pm tidesox28: @EgmontGal I’m sure you never come to Lewiston when you come to Maine. That’s where I live. Been called the armpit of Maine. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm aecbks: Hardest thing at conferences is when there’s a huge span of newbies to pros. Would be better to have concurrent sessions. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm elanaroth: I agree with @egmontgal about many conference attendees. It’s not enough to just show up. You have to be working on craft. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm debbieohi: @MyraMcEntire Good point. I’ll credit #kidlitchat. And @maggiedana, who came up with the term. 
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8:47 pm JeannineNorris: @EgmontGal I agree – workshops for pros would be fantastic! #kidlitchat
8:47 pm JennBailey: @elanaroth We create levels for beginners, pros, people who have been to other conferences, are in critique groups, etc. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm frmonette: @susanwrites Good one. #kidlitchat
8:47 pm EgmontGal: Guys, are people going to be offended that I said 4 out of 5 need to improve their writing most of all? I so hope note #kidlitchat
8:47 pm jimhill: @debbieohi an @-list of contributors? #kidlitchat
8:47 pm carrieryan: @literaticat that’s something I’d definitely be interested in learning – good idea! #kidlitchat
8:47 pm literaticat: c) What bookstores can and cannot do for you, d) How NOT to approach bookstores #kidlitchat
8:48 pm Becky_Levine: RT @literaticat: I wish some conference would tell writers: a) How 2 handsell book b) How 2 deal w/ bookstores/events/publicists #kidlitchat
8:48 pm MyraMcEntire: I attended Killer Nashville as my first conference, for murder mystery writers. But there was a newbie track and a YA panel. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm debbieohi: @gregpincus It was great to finally meet you in person at #scbwi09! #kidlitchat
8:48 pm dulemba: #kidlitchat Oh twitter – I have fallen woefully behind. There is no chance my responses will make any sense any longer… *sigh* e
8:48 pm quirkywriter: I’m behind again, but I had to sing a mermaid to sleep. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm EgmontGal: @tidesox28 you are so, so wrong. i’ve stayed in lewiston twice. do you know bobette McCarthy? #kidlitchat
8:48 pm ktubb: @literaticat I would love to go to a session on selling/bookstores/events, etc. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm bonnieadamson: @merylevans It’s probably like art school–trends abound. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm KatGirl_Studio: @literaticat maybe internet conferences on such subjects? #kidlitchat
8:48 pm SherriePetersen: @EgmontGal No, I don’t think that’s offensive! #kidlitchat
8:48 pm SarahDarerLitt: @susanwrites Me too. I wish there were more craft/marketing conferences for pros. That’s why I love K #kidlitchat
8:48 pm davidhburton: @catesfolly I think its onlinewritingworkshop.com. It used to be run by del rey years ago. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm ChrisRichman: @DDHearn I have yet to give up on a manuscript myself, but I’m still new to the game. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm KateMessner: @literaticat YOU should propose that workshop for NESCBWI – I’d go! #kidlitchat
8:48 pm KayCassidy: @literaticat I would be there for a) to d) in a heartbeat. Wanna teach it? #kidlitchat
8:48 pm CREvers: @susanwrites re: “where did you stop reading?” Thnx! I’m writing that one down! #kidlitchat
8:48 pm susanwrites: @EgmontGal I would pay money to do a protrack with you online. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm aecbks: @EgmontGal I know Bobette. I pubbed one of her books. #kidlitchat
8:48 pm DDHearn: @EgmontGal Why should anyone be offended. I think most of us would agree our writing always could use improvement. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm ColleenLindsay: @literaticat I would love to host a panel about b.) – I used to give that to to writers in San Francisco through the NCIBA. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm mgbuehrlen: @f_rancesca Alas (which I’m pretty sure is the official antonym for huzzah, right?) Anyway, alas, I’m off to slumberland. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm maggiedana: Just send $$$! RT @debbieohi: @MyraMcEntire Good point. Ill credit #kidlitchat. And @maggiedana, who came up with the term. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm bonnieadamson: @davidhburton Well, that’s pretty reasonable. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm KellyDHouse: @EgmontGal No offense here. I know it. That’s what I go to work to do every day. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm joycelansky: Gordon Korman & Louis Sachar crack me up. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm chavelaque: @CREvers I’m an editor, and I always start critiques by asking “What was your intention with this?” #kidlitchat
8:49 pm PattyJMurphy: @literaticat Great point. Some authors think bookstores OWE them something. I’ve heard nightmare stories of entitled authors. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm f_rancesca: @susanwritesOoh SCBWI confs aimed at pros. I think you might have something there. I love them but v aimed at beginners (ie, me) #kidlitchat
8:49 pm JennBailey: @EgmontGal No offense taken here. I think you’re right. I see the same stuff from the same people. Come on, folks. Grow! #kidlitchat
8:49 pm catesfolly: @EgmontGal I feel like most published writers I read the same ratio applies. Working on the writing is the main thing. #kidlitchat
8:49 pm SherriePetersen: @JennBailey Are you talking about conferences? That sounds like an excellent way to organize. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm ColleenLindsay: @literaticat I would love to host a panel about b.) – I used to give that talk to writers in San Francisco through the NCIBA. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm literaticat: @KateMessner I think I already proposed something – I have no idea. LOL #kidlitchat
8:50 pm chavelaque: @CREvers Then we can diagnose what the problems are based on what the writer wanted to do. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm dulemba: @aecbks #kidlitchat Don’t I know it! Gads!
8:50 pm jeanie_w: @EgmontGal Not offended. Not surprised either. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm KayCassidy: @EgmontGal Not at all. I don’t think there’s a writer out there at any stage of their career who doesn’t think they can improve. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm KatGirl_Studio: @PattyJMurphy really any stories you want to share #kidlitchat
8:50 pm DDHearn: @ChrisRichman Thanks. It’s good to know an agent is willing to stick with a manuscript through many rejections. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm Becky_Levine: @EgmontGal They need not to be offended. They need 2 want 2 work to be the 1/5. Elizabeth, u’re to nice about all this 2 offend. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm MyraMcEntire: Holy chalupas I’m behind! Do we all type for a living or what? #kidlitchat
8:50 pm mitaliperkins: @susanwrites Years ago I had a paid critique with an agent who said he hadn’t read it at all because it wasn’t his style. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm EgmontGal: @susanwrites Best question to ask in critique session “What’s your best advice for me? Anything else you want me to know?” #kidlitchat
8:50 pm mgbuehrlen: @joycelansky I love Louis Sachar! Loved WAYSIDE SCHOOL IS FALLING DOWN when I was a kid. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm dulemba: @bonnieadamson #kidlitchat Typing was the only one I got an “A” in! (kidding….) e
8:50 pm tidesox28: @EgmontGal Sorry. Sorry you had to stay in Lewiston, and sorry I do not know your friend. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm chavelaque: @CREvers Questions to ask *me* . . . Maybe, “Where do you think this is going? What is the one thing I need to fix MOST?” #kidlitchat
8:50 pm pinkcottonpaper: Book signings seemed to only work well when an author was really outgoing.-at least from what I experienced. #kidlitchat
8:50 pm SherriePetersen: @mitaliperkins How awful!! #kidlitchat
8:51 pm KateMessner: @EgmontGal I can’t see anyone taking offense to that – I’m published & still go for the craft sessions first at those events. #kidlitchat
8:51 pm debbieohi: I wish I had the $$ to go to all these amazing-sounding conferences! And see @dulemba’s Ultra-Secret Forbidden Drum Circle, too! #kidlitchat
8:51 pm PattyJMurphy: @f_rancesca SCBWI/LA has an amazing PRO TRACK. I went this year and it was grand. Lots of useful information and networking #kidlitchat
8:51 pm tidesox28: @mitaliperkins paying? that’s odd #kidlitchat
8:51 pm dulemba: @jeanie_w #kidlitchat Yup – workshops are great for illers – but so are great ADs – I learned tons from Laurent Linn and Martha Rago.
8:51 pm JennRHubbard: @f_rancesca New England SCBWI has a lot of pros. #kidlitchat
8:51 pm chavelaque: @CREvers Because if I can predict every beat of your MS w/o reading it, then it’s probably not fresh enough to break out #kidlitchat
8:51 pm joycelansky: @EgmontGal Only four out of five. I would think more than that. #kidlitchat
8:51 pm JennBailey: @SherriePetersen Yes. Our conferences. We don’t want to waste Editor/Agent time for 1 on 1s. You must prove your working on it #kidlitchat
8:51 pm bonnieadamson: @EgmontGal Does that ratio apply to submissions after conference–20% pretty good? #kidlitchat
8:51 pm SarahDarerLitt: @catesfolly I always want to work on craft. I wish there were more master classes. Or I could afford the VT College MFA. #kidlitchat
8:51 pm aecbks: @PattyJMurphy Who decides what is “pro” and what is not? #kidlitchat
8:52 pm JennRHubbard: @f_rancesca The New Eng. SCBWI spring conference, I mean. #kidlitchat
8:52 pm dulemba: RT @JohansenNewman: @dulemba OK, I think I figured it out! Hi there!#kidlitchat Hey Chickadee! e
8:52 pm f_rancesca: @PattyJMurphy The more I hear about LA SCBWI the more I want to go. 2010! #kidlitchat
8:52 pm literaticat: @KayCassidy Sure! Name the place. 
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8:52 pm jimhill: @mitaliperkins looks like several nice offerings at CBWI Southern New England Encore http://bit.ly/s3XVT #kidlitchat
8:52 pm ebyss: I would like to ask a question to agent/editors..How do you know what the trend will be in a year when the book is out? #kidlitchat
8:52 pm debbieohi: @mitaliperkins Yikes…your critiquer told you outright that he hadn’t read your mss? And you had paid for it?? #kidlitchat
8:52 pm susanwrites: @mitaliperkins Ugh. Too bad it had been a mis-match between the two of you. #kidlitchat
8:52 pm SherriePetersen: @aecbks Well wouldn’t pro be someone who is pubbed? #kidlitchat
8:52 pm elanaroth: @bonnieadamson 20% good actually seems high to me…if I see 1 or 2 things that are good after a conference that’s pretty good. #kidlitchat
8:52 pm jeanie_w: @dulemba I had a good crit with Patrick Collins of Henry Holt. #kidlitchat
8:52 pm ebyss: How could the agent have known really big books to movies were going to be that big? #kidlitchat
8:52 pm anindita: Ack! I always miss #kidlitchat Thanks for all the NESCBWI love all! We are still accepting proposals until 9/15/09.
8:52 pm EgmontGal: Guys: people in critique sessions sometimes can’t hear me. So a qood question is to feedback what you think critiquer is saying #kidlitchat
8:53 pm JeannineNorris: @aecbks I would think “pro” is published. Others might have other suggestions. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm bonnieadamson: @debbieohi @mitaliperkis–OMG, seriously? #kidlitchat
8:53 pm JohansenNewman: @dulemba Back atcha-I am so web challenged..#kidlitchat
8:53 pm f_rancesca: @JennRHubbard I think a mix of pros/newbies must be the ideal. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm mitaliperkins: @tidesox28 Yep. He told me my genre bored him. He’s still around. I mentally call him Voldemort. Got my money back, though. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm susanwrites: @SarahDarerLitt @catesfolly Me too! Wishing there were more master classes. Especially some taught online. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm HeleneBoudreau: Representing the canucks here, CANSCAIP has a great fall conference in Toronto. Packaging your imagination for kidlit aut/ill #kidlitchat
8:53 pm aecbks: @SherriePetersen I ask b/c many writers don’t feel *pro* even after book is pubbed. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm literaticat: @ColleenLindsay Of course part of the problem is, you can’t teach somebody to be a mensch, or interesting. #kidlitchat
8:53 pm ebyss: @tidesox28 #kidlitchat and to let you know, we are brutally honest.
8:53 pm EgmontGal: @debbieohi Wow, I guess that’s better than pretending to have read it! #kidlitchat
8:53 pm EgmontUSA: @ebyss You don’t persay, but you know what you’re seeing too much of (and can count on that being a trend). #kidlitchat
8:53 pm literaticat: @mitaliperkins WHO WAS IT!???! #kidlitchat
8:54 pm bonnieadamson: @elanaroth Maybe not ones you’d acquire, but at least competent? Looking for silver lining here! #kidlitchat
8:54 pm tidesox28: @jimhill i love your profile pic #kidlitchat
8:54 pm MyraMcEntire: @EgmontGal Can’t hear, or don’t want to hear? #kidlitchat
8:54 pm Becky_Levine: @SherriePetersen I don’t think pro just for published. At some conferences, seems to be more advanced. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm davidhburton: @HeleneBoudreau hey, that’s sounds interesting! I’ll check it out. Thanks! #kidlitchat
8:54 pm ChrisRichman: @ebyss I try not to follow trends too much, unless it’s a trend like good writing or good plotting. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm gregpincus: And I apologize if I didn’t/don’t answer an @ message – they are not showing up with regularity on my iPhone tweetdeck! #kidlitchat
8:54 pm CREvers: @chavelaque Thnx!!! Lots of great info that I can use. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm joellewrites: @EgmontGal Studying craft seems obvious, but so much emphasis is put on the business side, it gets lost. Stress it! And reading. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm tidesox28: @ebyss that’s the only way any of us will improve #kidlitchat
8:54 pm JennBailey: Can’t hold out. Must return to The Hunger Games. ‘night all! #kidlitchat
8:54 pm debbieohi: @HeleneBoudreau I’m thinking of going to CANSCAIP’s conference, but it’s only one day long. 
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8:54 pm EgmontGal: at scbwi national, people had to register for pro track in advance. It worked. someone check nametags at the door! #kidlitchat
8:54 pm dulemba: @maggiedana #kidlitchat Twitter Olympic events: Shot Put …… t y p o …. s ……….
8:54 pm DDHearn: @mitaliperkins As long as he gave money back it may have been for the best. He probably would have given a poor critique. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm elanaroth: @bonnieadamson I see a lot of stuff that’s OKAY. I just credit it to a lot of attendees simply not being ready yet. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm mitaliperkins: @literaticat He who shall not be named. But when someone tells me they’re represented by Voldemort, I still flinch. #kidlitchat
8:54 pm debbieohi: @EgmontGal Yes, I totally agree (better than having pretend to have read it). #kidlitchat
8:55 pm davidhburton: @BonnieAdamson correction. $49/year. Just looked it up now that I finished making lunches. #kidlitchat
8:55 pm storyconnection: All: Just in case anyone missed it, upload your book trailers to www.kidlitbooktrailers.com. Lots of great trailers there! #kidlitchat
8:55 pm tidesox28: @mitaliperkins that’s good to hear. sounds more than sketchy #kidlitchat
8:55 pm SherriePetersen: @EgmontGal Writers get nervous. Is it okay to record critique session so that u can go back & listen in a better frame of mind? #kidlitchat
8:55 pm catesfolly: @mitaliperkins Good for you for getting your money back! That’s a rough one! #kidlitchat
8:55 pm chfoulk: I’m still learning these looks like fun RT @debbieohi @dulemba @gregpincus “Olympics of Tweeting”…LOL! #kidlitchat
8:55 pm MyraMcEntire: So, what are suggestions to learn craft, besides actually practicing it? #kidlitchat
8:55 pm EgmontGal: @MyraMcEntire Are too into what they already think to hear what I have to say, maybe? Had 1 clear example in LA #kidlitchat
8:55 pm JennRHubbard: @f_rancesca That conference does have both pros and newbies, and serves both well, I think. #kidlitchat
8:55 pm HeleneBoudreau: @debbieohi it’s worth it, if only to connect with other aut/ills and kidlit editors. Lots of sessions to choose from. #kidlitchat
8:55 pm debbieohi: @mitaliperkins “Voldemort”….LOL! #kidlitchat
8:55 pm EgmontGal: @JennBailey go! #kidlitchat
8:55 pm ebyss: Is that the how it is done, when a book really captures you, you take your chance that it will capture readers? #kidlitchat
8:55 pm aecbks: @mitaliperkins he charged for a critique and he is an agent? Not legit. #kidlitchat
8:55 pm chavelaque: I wish con organizers would make critiques have a cover page w/ genre, total length of ms., status of project (complete or no) #kidlitchat
8:55 pm ColleenLindsay: .@mitaliperkins Which agent charged you for a critique? Unethical! #kidlitchat
8:55 pm PattyJMurphy: @aecbks SCBWI asks that you are a pub author to attend, but at the LA conference they opened them to all except lunch/book sale #kidlitchat
8:55 pm HeleneBoudreau: @davidhburton Hope to see you there (PYI) #kidlitchat
8:56 pm elanaroth: @MyraMcEntire Write write write write. Then throw it all out and start all over. Often. #kidlitchat
8:56 pm EgmontGal: @debbieohi critiquer should have reached across the table and handed back her dough. #kidlitchat
8:56 pm dulemba: RT @debbieohi: RT @JennBailey Tweet Olympics Event #1 The 140 character dash #kidlitchat LOL!!! e
8:56 pm SherriePetersen: @JennBailey Enjoy! I know you will! #kidlitchat
8:56 pm joycelansky: I read a book like Ingrid Law’s Savvy & think maybe I’m not as good as I thought. Rejections keep an ego in check too. #kidlitchat
8:56 pm chavelaque: and maybe that intention I was talking about earlier — much easier to critique if I know what author wants to do. #kidlitchat
8:56 pm ChrisRichman: @mitaliperkins Glad I’m not the Voldemort you speak of. #kidlitchat
8:56 pm dulemba: RT @jimhill: @bonnieadamson tweetolympics event – Not Blinking with Comprehension #kidlitchat Yes! e
8:56 pm debbieohi: @HeleneBoudreau Looking at the schedule, CANSCAIP conf. didn’t seem to have a lot of “just hanging out” opport. or am I wrong? #kidlitchat
8:56 pm EgmontGal: @ebyss basically, yes. If we like it and know why it’s different/competitive/special and how to pitch it as such #kidlitchat
8:56 pm EgmontUSA: Cannot stress how much you should NOT be writing to trends. Write well. Write a great story. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm JohansenNewman: @literaticat Being a Mensch is a quality one is born with #kidlitchat
8:57 pm LiaKeyes: @chavelaque You give terrific critiques, even without that knowledge. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm mitaliperkins: @aecbks @ColleenLindsay It was at a conference, so I paid the organizers, not him. Thanks for the outrage. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm MyraMcEntire: @EgmontGal If one is lucky enough to sit down with publisher, one should shut mouth and open ears. (Not from fortune cookie BTW) #kidlitchat
8:57 pm Becky_Levine: @EgmontGal protrack–were their criteria? #kidlitchat
8:57 pm laurielyoung: I have to go–can’t wait to see the transcript! #kidlitchat
8:57 pm jimhill: @elanaroth “Not being ready yet” I think the small window for submittal post-con contributes to that. #kidlitchat
8:57 pm EgmontGal: @chavelaque I don’t start with a ques in critique sessions because I’m too busy talking. Just kidding! the best are dialogs #kidlitchat
8:57 pm bonnieadamson: @joycelansky Oh–next on my list! #kidlitchat
8:57 pm HeleneBoudreau: @debbieohi That’s post-PYI. I’ll hook you up. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm KateMessner: @EgmontUSA I love @literaticat’s advice re: trends. “Don’t write to trends. There is always a market for awesome.” #kidlitchat
8:58 pm debbieohi: @chavelaque I agree with @LiaKeyes. Your critiques are excellent. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm elanaroth: I also see a lot of writers at confs who get stuck on the ONE story they came up with–and that’s all they have in them. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm frmonette: @joycelansky Rejections keep an ego in check too. ” I agree. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm EgmontGal: @Becky_Levine had to have published a book. There were a surprising number of popular authors there #kidlitchat
8:58 pm MyraMcEntire: @elanaroth Whew! I’m on the right track then. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm aecbks: RT @elanaroth: I also see writers at confs who get stuck on the ONE story they came up with–and thats all they have in them. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm elanaroth: @jimhill Perhaps, but many show up before even being ready for the critiques or beginning the process at all. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm ebyss: I find that rather interesting. To take a chance on a book that you really like and think can be pitched. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm jimhill: @elanaroth I decided not to submit just because the window was open after NESCWBI and kept working to make the mss better. #kidlitchat
8:58 pm f_rancesca: @MyraMcEntire Okay, now I officially heart you. #kidlitchat
8:59 pm EgmontGal: @jimhill I am completely blunt that we don’t keep track of that window. Just ask @egmontusa #kidlitchat
8:59 pm bonnieadamson: @elanaroth Do you like to discuss other work, then–or stick with ms. at hand during critique? #kidlitchat
8:59 pm elanaroth: @jimhill I admire that decision. Very much. #kidlitchat
8:59 pm EgmontUSA: @KateMessner What a motto! #kidlitchat
8:59 pm debbieohi: @HeleneBoudreau Y’know, you’ve just convinced me to go to the conference. Thanks. #kidlitchat
8:59 pm chavelaque: @debbieohi @LiaKeyes Many thanks! #kidlitchat
8:59 pm MyraMcEntire: @f_rancesca I heart to be hearted. 
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8:59 pm bonnieadamson: RT @elanaroth: I also see a lot of writers at confs who get stuck on ONE story –and that’s all they have in them. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm ChrisRichman: Okay, I’m taking off. Hope to see you at a conference soon! As in, feel free to invite me #kidlitchat
9:00 pm ebyss: I write what I have an idea for. I have finished one ms, halfway thru my 2nd and started a 3rd. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm katzni: Ooh, just stumbled on #kidlitchat …. reading through tweets
9:00 pm EgmontGal: @ebyss that’s what I said in my speech at SCBWI nat’l. I have to enroll my boss and the sales force, they have to enroll stores #kidlitchat
9:00 pm elanaroth: @bonnieadamson I can only judge what you show me. But you can see where there’s potential in certain writers. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm KatGirl_Studio: @debbieohi ooo which conference? #kidlitchat
9:00 pm ebyss: I have learned so much. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm dulemba: @chavelaque #kidlitchat Hi Cheryl! e
9:00 pm aecbks: #kidlitchat = fastest hour of the day. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm EgmontUSA: @jimhill I don’t check the window. #kidlitchat
9:00 pm debbieohi: @katzni Welcome! #kidlitchat
9:00 pm LiaKeyes: @chavelaque You gave me permission to let a story unfold at a more leisurely pace – not throw everything at the reader up front #kidlitchat
9:00 pm bonnieadamson: @EgmontGal I appreciate the reasons fopr limit, but I’m always relieved to hear no time limit. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm TaraLazar: @jimhill Yeah, you shouldn’t jump out that window just because it’s open! LOL! #kidlitchat
9:01 pm mitaliperkins: On the flip side, I got Arthur Levine once for a critique. Instead of the usual 20 minutes, he gave 2 intense, wonderful hours. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm MyraMcEntire: What I’d like to see: An author version vs. editor or agent revisions. Just to see … side by side. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm DDHearn: I get so revved up trying to keep up here that it’s hard for me to go to sleep later. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm chavelaque: @dulemba Hi there! The Decatur festival must be coming up, yes? #kidlitchat
9:01 pm debbieohi: @KatGirl_Studio The CANSCAIP conference in Toronto (where I live). @HeleneBoudreau just convinced me to go. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm pvlundqvist: RT @KateMessner: @EgmontUSA I love @literaticat’s advice re: trends. “Don’t write to trends. …always a market for awesome.” #kidlitchat
9:01 pm davidhburton: @mitaliperkins Nice!! #kidlitchat
9:01 pm f_rancesca: @EgmontGal Been musing on emotion and desks and people. If we were not ALL (eds/writers) passionate, we would not do this. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm TexasPixie: Anyone going to #VCFA in the Lone Star State? #kidlitchat
9:01 pm dulemba: RT @KateMessner: @EgmontGal I can’t see anyone taking offense to that – I’m published & still go for the craft sessions first… #kidlitchat
9:01 pm EgmontGal: @elanaroth @jimhill Some writers come to conferences so they can submit their ms.I completely understand that, tho sorry its so #kidlitchat
9:01 pm KellyDHouse: Alright ya’ll. Off to make coffee for tomorrow so I can get up and be productive. Thanks for another great evening! #kidlitchat
9:01 pm bonnieadamson: @ChrisRichman Oh, you’re on the list, Chris, for sure! Thanks for stopping by. #kidlitchat
9:01 pm storyconnection: RT @EgmontUSA: Cannot stress how much you should NOT be writing to trends. Write well. Write a great story. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm ebyss: @tidesox28 #kidlitchat if you would like to join, I have a blog spot on my twitter page.
9:02 pm debbieohi: @mitaliperkins I met Arthur Levine for the 1st time at #scbwi09. Expected to be intimidated but he’s just SO nice. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm bonnieadamson: @davidhburton Even better–will check it out. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm quirkywriter: Me too. RT @bonnieadamson: @EgmontGal I appreciate the reasons for limit, but I’m always relieved to hear no time limit. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm susanwrites: @TexasPixie I’ll be there. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm jimhill: @EgmontGal Well that’s good to know. It’ll be our secret as long as no one figure out these crazy hash tags. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm frmonette: @elanaroth “But you can see where there’s potential in certain writers.” Do you encourage these certain writers? #kidlitchat
9:02 pm elanaroth: @EgmontGal The “i’ll just keep showing up until that one editor says yes” approach. Argh. #kidlitchat
9:02 pm HeleneBoudreau: RT @debbieohi: @KatGirl_Studio The CANSCAIP conference<–Yay! #kidlitchat
9:02 pm dearauthor: @LiaKeyes dunno. @ColleenLindsay would know. Is Donald Maass’ wife thirddraftnyc.com? #kidlitchat
9:02 pm KayCassidy: Heaidng out for the night. Thanks to Bonnie and Greg for hosting another awesome chat. Great to see everyone! #kidlitchat
9:02 pm susanwrites: @MyraMcEntire @chavelaque Did that at a conference I went to once and it was great. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm dulemba: RT @jeanie_w: @dulemba I had a good crit with Patrick Collins of Henry Holt. #kidlitchat YAY!!! e
9:03 pm Becky_Levine: I’m heading off. Good talk–see you all next week. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm anindita: @TexasPixie No, but I wish! So many super nice people going. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm KateMessner: @MyraMcEntire Ah…but agents & editors don’t revise – they ask questions that help the author revise. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm KatGirl_Studio: @debbieohi ah #kidlitchat
9:03 pm elanaroth: @frmonette For sure! If there’s something there, but that book isn’t right, I’ll ask for other stuff. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm DDHearn: Quote I like. Don’t try to be original. Be good. Being good is original enough. (I forget who said it, though.) #kidlitchat
9:03 pm storyconnection: @DDHearn Hahahaha! This place is so exciting, right? Makes the heart go pitter patter… LOL #kidlitchat
9:03 pm jimhill: @TaraLazar You sound like my Mom! #kidlitchat
9:03 pm tidesox28: @ebyss I tweeted you my email #kidlitchat
9:03 pm mitaliperkins: We will lure you to a New England conference, @ChrisRichman. I sense you are a Dumbledore. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm literaticat: Don’t just invite @ChrisRichman to those conferences! INVITE ME, TOO! #kidlitchat
9:03 pm ebyss: This was very interesting tonight. I really enjoyed everything and grats to you Egmont. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm elanaroth: @frmonette I read a promising sample for a critique in OK this spring. Definitely told her to send it when she finished. #kidlitchat
9:03 pm aecbks: Thanks for the lively evening, all. #kidlitchat
9:04 pm EgmontGal: @elanaroth No, they don’t have agent, want to submit, houses don’t take slush. I hate to think people need to pay to submit #kidlitchat
9:04 pm KatGirl_Studio: @debbieohi and he’s super funny. The speech he gave at SCBWI 08 was awesome! #kidlitchat
9:04 pm HeleneBoudreau: RT @KateMessner: @MyraMcEntire Ah…but agents & editors dont revise – they ask questions that help the author revise. YES! #kidlitchat
9:04 pm Georgia_McBride: @EgmontUSA Ppl who write 2 trends lack inspiration/Seek big payda/Clouds field 4 authors w/genuine passion 4 a particular genre. #kidlitchat
9:04 pm PattyJMurphy: @mitaliperkins I have NE conferences are amazing. Do you have any coming up soon? #kidlitchat
9:04 pm dulemba: RT @mitaliperkins: @tidesox28 Yep. He told me my genre bored him. He’s still around. I mentally call him Voldemort. #kidlitchat Unreal!!
9:04 pm f_rancesca: @EgmontGal …and passion leaves us all vulnerable b/c we are then utterly real. But it’s a price worth paying. #kidlitchat
9:04 pm debbieohi: RT @mitaliperkins “We will lure you to a New England conference, @ChrisRichman. I sense you are a Dumbledore.” LOL!! #kidlitchat
9:04 pm davidhburton: Time to sign off for the night. Thanks all, and congrats again to Egmont! #kidlitchat
9:04 pm bonnieadamson: @KayCassidy Thanks, Kay–see you next time! #kidlitchat
9:04 pm susanwrites: The dog is begging for her dinner. Not a pretty sight. I’m off. Thanks everyone for another great chat. #kidlitchat
9:04 pm bonnieadamson: @Becky_Levine ‘Bye, Becky. #kidlitchat
9:04 pm elanaroth: @EgmontGal Best to just self-publish at that point… #kidlitchat
9:05 pm storyconnection: @TexasPixie Do you ever attend TLA? I love that conf. I go every year. Love the TX librarians! #kidlitchat
9:05 pm bonnieadamson: can’t believe it’s been an hour already–will have to think about expanding, maybe. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm tidesox28: This was fun, but I need to take a shower and head to bed. First day of school tomorrow. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm frmonette: Wonderful to be in a room full of creative souls. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm anindita: @PattyJMurphy The NE annual conference is May 14th-16th 2010 #kidlitchat
9:05 pm dulemba: @chavelaque #kidlitchat Yup – DBF is in two weeks – I’ll be on the children’s stage Sunday at 12 w/ SOAP! You comin? e
9:05 pm jimhill: I had a great crit from Mary Lee Donovan. Clarified the flaws & refocused the story. It’s still funny but now has a heart too. #kidlitchat
9:05 pm TexasPixie: @anindita It’s my first year to go… I’m excited! #kidlitchat
9:06 pm llunalila: Been great reading you all but it’s 4am here and need some bed time. Will try to come back next week at #kidlitchat
9:06 pm JeannineNorris: RT @KateMessner: @MyraMcEntire Ah…but agents & editors dont revise – they ask questions that help the author revise. #kidlitchat
9:06 pm dulemba: @SherriePetersen #kidlitchat Seems like a GREAT idea to me! e
9:06 pm EgmontGal: @SherriePetersen yes, fine to record critique sessions, tho ask first. I think a very very good idea #kidlitchat
9:06 pm debbieohi: @KatGirl_Studio Wished I could have heard that speech! Tho I like his impersonation of Sid Fleischman at #scbwi09. #kidlitchat
9:06 pm f_rancesca: A whole hour already? Thank you all, esp. @bonnieadamson and @gregpincus for making it happen. Like a conference in pill form #kidlitchat
9:06 pm MyraMcEntire: @KateMessner Agreed, but there is a before and there is an after. That’s what I’m talkin’ about! #kidlitchat
9:06 pm literaticat: Conferences to which I would like to be invited: SCBWI Bologna – SCBWI Paris – SCBWI Hawaii – SCBWI Poughkeepsie. #kidlitchat
9:06 pm KatGirl_Studio: @llunalila wow where do you live? #kidlitchat
9:07 pm storyconnection: @dulemba: @mitaliperkins: Last agent I submitted to said I wasn’t “marketable.” Ouch. Tell that to my fans! LOL #kidlitchat #kidlitchat
9:07 pm DDHearn: I’m signing off too. Just got over jealousy of all at LA conference and now I’m jealous all over again. #kidlitchat
9:07 pm bonnieadamson: Thanks everyone for all the great conference and workshop recommendations–can’t wait to read transcript! #kidlitchat
9:07 pm PattyJMurphy: @storyconnection ALA anywhere is grand. It’s fun doing signings, meeting librarians, teachers–READERS! ALAChicago was amazing:) #kidlitchat
9:07 pm f_rancesca: @frmonette I quite agree. #kidlitchat
9:07 pm mitaliperkins: @PattyJMurphy Find out all about our New England Society of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators: http://www.nescbwi.org #kidlitchat
9:07 pm SherriePetersen: @EgmontGal Good to know. I think it would be helpful because people get really stressed b4 a critique. #kidlitchat
9:07 pm GrannyGretchen: Missed tonight’s chat, good excuse. Bonfire on beach with the grands. S’mores and all. Wow, you’re still going. #kidlitchat
9:07 pm cheriwilliams: @bonnieadamson I like that it’s formally one hour, but lingering is ok too. #kidlitchat
9:08 pm chavelaque: @dulemba Nope — I’m off for vacation soon instead! I’ll be at SCBWI Atlanta in February, tho #kidlitchat
9:08 pm SherriePetersen: @literaticat I’d like to be invited, too! #kidlitchat
9:08 pm storyconnection: @PattyJMurphy Yes, I love ALA. That’s why I’m there every year signing books and presenting. #kidlitchat
9:08 pm EngridE1: @bonnieadamson Could not keep up with TweetChat on the iPhone with meds in me – I’ll catch the transcript. Thanks everyone #kidlitchat
9:08 pm llunalila: @KatGirl_Studio Spain Holidays for me starting this week made it possible I could join #kidlitchat
9:08 pm AnnaZiska: Once again a lot of useful information was shared tonight. Thank you. #kidlitchat
9:08 pm PattyJMurphy: @literaticat How about SCBWI Australia, New Zeland, South Africa, Ireland? #kidlitchat
9:08 pm DDHearn: @literaticat Poughkeepsie? I used to live near there and I wonder how you could lump that in with Paris, Bologna and Hawaii! #kidlitchat
9:08 pm debbieohi: Must go. Thanks to @bonnieadamson and @gregpincus! I love #kidlitchat. Gnite, all. #kidlitchat
9:08 pm dulemba: @chavelaque #kidlitchat Fantastic! See you then! e
9:08 pm literaticat: @PattyJMurphy Yes, all of those as well. #kidlitchat
9:08 pm ktubb: @chavelaque And we’re very much looking forward to your visit to Nashville! #kidlitchat
9:09 pm KateMessner: Definitely – and you’d be amazed at the before-after differences. That’s actually part of our proposal for NESCBWI! #kidlitchat
9:09 pm anindita: @TexasPixie Oh terrific! Well @varianjohnson and @shardarr should both be there and they’re super friendly & fun #kidlitchat
9:09 pm EgmontGal: @SherriePetersen I’ve seen writers too nervous/talkative/caught up to hear what I’m trying to say, though I do give notes #kidlitchat
9:09 pm joycelansky: I once had an aetheist crit my story about God. Not a good fit. #kidlitchat
9:09 pm literaticat: @DDHearn Because I was being clever, DDHearn. Also because my favorite people live in the neighborhood & I could visit. #kidlitchat
9:09 pm bonnieadamson: Are we crediting good critiques? have to mention @sarahshum for providing valuable pointers at writing retreat last year. #kidlitchat
9:09 pm JohansenNewman: Had trouble keeping up but had great fun this evening!#kidlitchat
9:09 pm EgmontGal: I’m going to go reread Hunger Games. I’ve earned a treat, it’s been a very busy day. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm ebyss: It is bedtime. Thanks for all the information. Still need to learn to keep up. LOL!! #kidlitchat
9:10 pm mitaliperkins: @debbieohi You are smart to have a separate chatty twitter stream. I might have to do that for the sake of my non #kidlitchat tweeps.
9:10 pm elanaroth: @EgmontGal Enjoy it And congrats on today! May it only get better from here! #kidlitchat
9:10 pm KateMessner: Many thanks to @bonnieadamson and @gregpincus for a great #kidlitchat! #kidlitchat
9:10 pm DDHearn: @literaticat I thought that, but you never know. Friends nearby is a good enough reason to go to Poughkeepsie. Maybe only one. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm SherriePetersen: @EgmontGal That’s great that you give notes. That’s always helpful. Enjoy rereading HG. #kidlitchat
9:10 pm HeleneBoudreau: OLA here in Canada (June) was fun. @debbieohi you were part of CANSCAIP launch, too? #kidlitchat
9:10 pm dulemba: #kidlitchat HOW am I supposed to go to sleep now!? My heart is racing, my fingers are shakin’, my eyeballs are quakin’!! Gads, e
9:10 pm bonnieadamson: Remember–transcript will be delayed, but WILL be up by tomorrow night: @gregpicus will tweet link. #kidlitchat
9:11 pm SarahDarerLitt: @egmontgal Got to sleep or brain too fried to write tomorrow but want to say Congratulations! Felicitations! Mazel Tov! xox #kidlitchat
9:11 pm f_rancesca: Good night all — and thanks. #kidlitchat
9:11 pm ktubb: @EgmontGal Congrats to all at Egmont! #kidlitchat
9:11 pm peg366: #kidlitchat Will have to catch transcripts. Kids needing me a lot tonight. Sounds like it was a good one.
9:11 pm elanaroth: Yes…this headache is overtaking me. G’night to all! #kidlitchat
9:11 pm MyraMcEntire: Thanks to all the pros and everyone for the amazing, kind advice. It’s priceless and we’re all grateful! #kidlitchat
9:11 pm bonnieadamson: Sorry, that’s @gregpincus!! #kidlitchat
9:11 pm joycelansky: @storyconnection Zen & The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance was rejected 117 times, give or take. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm TexasPixie: @anindita Good to know! I’m going by myself, so it’s good to know nice people will be there! #kidlitchat
9:12 pm SherriePetersen: @EgmontGal Pikes Peak gave out detailed notes which r great to refer back 2 Congrats on release day! I’ll be shopping 2morrow. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm DDHearn: @bonnieadamson THanks for letting us know transcript won’t be up right away so I don’t scour twitter all day long. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm joycelansky: Thanks for another fun Tues. night. Gotta prepare for work tomorrow. How do East coasters do it? #kidlitchat
9:12 pm bonnieadamson: @cheriwilliams Yes, always feel free to party on! #kidlitchat
9:12 pm ebyss: Good night all. #kidlitchat
9:12 pm TexasPixie: @susanwrites Yay! See you there! #kidlitchat
9:12 pm MyraMcEntire: @ktubb I gave Autumn to my son’s teacher! She’s going to read it out loud to the class! #kidlitchat
9:12 pm dulemba: RT @storyconnection: @dulemba: @mitaliperkins: Last agent I submitted to said I wasn’t “marketable.” Ouch. #kidlitchat Um – I DISAGREE!!! e
9:12 pm literaticat: @joycelansky I would reject Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance in a hot secod. I’d also have rejected the DaVinci Code. #kidlitchat
9:13 pm SherriePetersen: @dulemba Sleep? Why sleep? Time to WRITE!! Bye all! #kidlitchat
9:13 pm bonnieadamson: @DDHearn We’ll tweet and RT, so you won’t miss it! #kidlitchat
9:13 pm ktubb: @MyraMcEntire You are hearted from here, too. #kidlitchat
9:13 pm DDHearn: @dulemba This is a very subjective field, which can be frustrating. Good stories can take a long time to find agent or editor. #kidlitchat
9:14 pm MyraMcEntire: @ktubb I was kinda jealous. I wanted to read it for her. That voice! That voice! #kidlitchat
9:14 pm mitaliperkins: @dulemba To clarify, that was the very marketable @storyconnection. I’ve had the same wonderful agent for 15 years. #kidlitchat
9:14 pm CREvers: @ChrisRichman Thnx Chris. I’ll be sure to suck it up and ask that question. :0) #kidlitchat
9:14 pm DDHearn: @dulemba And the problem can be, how does the author know if it’s just a subjective judgment, or if the story is just plain bad. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm EZF_TopAuthors: RT @susanwrites: The dog is begging for her dinner. Not a pretty sight. I’m off. Thanks everyone for another great chat. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm ktubb: @MyraMcEntire Thank you!!! How are revisions coming? (Or should I ask?) #kidlitchat
9:15 pm bonnieadamson: @DDHearn Only if you keep getting the same assessment. #kidlitchat
9:15 pm KatGirl_Studio: its only 7pm here so i still have to go to dance while you all are going to sleep #kidlitchat
9:16 pm GaryAtRivendell: Fav quote from #kidlitchat tonite: RT @KateMessner @literaticat’s advice “Don’t write to trends. There is always a market for awesome.”
9:16 pm DDHearn: @bonnieadamson Good point. But some stories go through many rejections before getting accepted and sometimes big hits. #kidlitchat
9:16 pm dulemba: Thanks Bonnie and Great once again! Signin off! Night y’all! e #kidlitchat
9:16 pm KatGirl_Studio: @MyraMcEntire who’s voice? #kidlitchat
9:17 pm ktubb: @dulemba G’night, e! #kidlitchat
9:17 pm auntieflamingo: Just pooped in. I was thinking of going to the CANSCAIP conference but I don’t think my little one will let me go ALL day. #kidlitchat
9:17 pm bonnieadamson: Sorry to have to leave this one, but very early day tomorrow–THANK you, all!! #kidlitchat
9:18 pm MyraMcEntire: @ktubb They’re good! Lots of throwing out words, lots of layering prettier ones. So much to learn. I LOVE IT. #kidlitchat
9:18 pm auntieflamingo: Does SCBWI Canada East have something? Is anyone part of the Canada East chapter? #kidlitchat
9:18 pm ktubb: @bonnieadamson Thank YOU! #kidlitchat
9:19 pm DDHearn: I”m really going now. Goodnight all, and thanks for another fun and informative chat. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm literaticat: OK I am officially declaring the #kidlitchat afterparty is here: http://www.verlakay.com/chat.html #kidlitchat
9:19 pm auntieflamingo: @HeleneBoudreau What is OLA? #kidlitchat
9:19 pm MyraMcEntire: @KatGirl_Studio Kristen O’Donnell Tubb @ktubb in AUTUMN WINIFRED OLIVER DOES THINGS DIFFERENT. You must read. Precious. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm joycelansky: @literaticat To be honest, wasn’t crazy about Zen & Motorcycle either, but it became best seller which gives hope after reject. #kidlitchat
9:19 pm jimhill: G’night all. The Pogues have popped up in this genius mix and I have to finish a proposal. Cheers! #kidlitchat
9:19 pm JeannineNorris: @bonnieadamson thanks for another great chat! #kidlitchat
9:20 pm KatGirl_Studio: @auntieflamingo my friend is part of Canada east i can ask her #kidlitchat
9:20 pm jeanie_w: ‘Night all! Thanks @bonnieadamson for hosting another great #kidlitchat
9:21 pm auntieflamingo: @KatGirl_Studio That would be great. Thanks. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm SuePinto: @bonnieadamson Thnx for all your work and all who share knowledge. Off to bed or tomorrow I won’t know kids names…again. #kidlitchat
9:21 pm HeleneBoudreau: RT @KatGirl_Studio: @auntieflamingo Ontario Library Association/Toronto/Feb #kidlitchat
9:21 pm TaraLazar: How is #kidlitchat NOT a trending topic? Wasn’t *everyone* on? Marvelous discussion tonight, thanks to all. Great to read your tweets.
